View Full Version : Good God, I hope this is the WAGG
Icarus
10-13-2003, 05:46 AM
This is
awful... I put some WAGG and SPMO (2:4) on this morning, and have felt hideously depressed since about
10:30am...
It\'s a kind of claustrophobic Nihilism... Trapped in my skull, despair over the lack of
significance of anything, and chastising myself for despairing... Urg..
This is the first time that I\'ve had
this sort of reaction from Pheros...
On the plus(?) side, got my first \'Gay\' hit today... Some *really*
gay guy (stated without any prejudice, he just is. It\'s not a secret) was very attentive to me at uni
today, and kept suggesting we go grab a bite to eat - \"or, of course, we could go back to mine? I think I\'ve
got some decent stuff in the fridge!\"
Needless to say, I was flattered but entirely in the wrong place to even
appreciate it. I told everyone that I was going to the library, but instead just scuttled back to the sanctuary of
my flat*, where I plan to see out today, for better or worse.
Steve
*Apartment
Brian
10-13-2003, 05:56 AM
WOW!
I didn\'t get that the first time. I felt really messed up like I was stoned or something. It was a good feeling,
not one of depression. I never got that feeling after that. Hopefully, that will be the case for you.
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Brian
Sexyredhead
10-13-2003, 05:59 AM
I\'m sorry you\'re feeling so down. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Maybe go take a shower
and scrub most of it off. Then you might feel better?
Icarus
10-13-2003, 06:13 AM
Yeh,
I figured that might be a good idea...
thanks!
I\'m feeling a little better now, anyway...
<scrub
WAGG:SPMO off list of usable combos!>
Steve
DZorro
10-13-2003, 11:03 AM
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This is awful... I put some WAGG and SPMO (2:4) on
this morning, and have felt hideously depressed since about 10:30am...
It\'s a kind of claustrophobic
Nihilism... Trapped in my skull, despair over the lack of significance of anything, and chastising myself for
despairing... Urg..
This is the first time that I\'ve had this sort of reaction from Pheros...
On the
plus(?) side, got my first \'Gay\' hit today... Some *really* gay guy (stated without any prejudice, he just
is. It\'s not a secret) was very attentive to me at uni today, and kept suggesting we go grab a bite to
eat - \"or, of course, we could go back to mine? I think I\'ve got some decent stuff in the
fridge!\"
Needless to say, I was flattered but entirely in the wrong place to even appreciate it. I told
everyone that I was going to the library, but instead just scuttled back to the sanctuary of my flat*, where I plan
to see out today, for better or worse.
Steve
*Apartment
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Where did you apply WAGG/m, Icarus ????
I never use mones near my face anymore. I had that
same effect but only when wearing, A1 or The new Pheromax, near my face. So now i only apply it, at the back of my
head, whear i can\'t smell it. Or in my hair, is a great place too.
DZorro,
krtel
10-13-2003, 04:17 PM
This
just goes to show that my theory of WAGG + nol = Disaster is true.
Krish
Holmes
10-13-2003, 07:42 PM
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I never use mones near my face anymore. I had
that same effect but only when wearing, A1 or The new Pheromax, near my face. So now i only apply it, at the back of
my head, whear i can\'t smell it. Or in my hair, is a great place too.
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Good strategies, DZorro. I can\'t wear certain pheros within breathing range,
either.
Sorry to hear of your experience, Steve. I never really understood as to why -nol + WAGG were touted as
such a volatile combo asKrish and others had mentioned.) Your story cleared up any remaining mystery.
Still the
question remains: where did you apply \'em?
Holmes
Icarus
10-13-2003, 10:21 PM
I
dun stuck em on my neck... baaaad move, it would appear!
Thanks for the support and advice, dudes (and where
would we be without the dudettes? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif).
I feel my usual *happy* self
today /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Who\'d have thunk that a bottle of liquid that smells
something like sweaty gymsocks could do...that?
Clearly a government conspiricy.
Yeehaw!
Steve
Charisma
10-14-2003, 12:39 AM
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Yeh, I figured that might be a good
idea...
thanks!
I\'m feeling a little better now, anyway...
<scrub WAGG:SPMO off list of usable
combos!>
Steve
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You can also decide to feel happy
now! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Sexyredhead
10-14-2003, 04:30 AM
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I dun stuck em on my neck... baaaad move, it
would appear!
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I believe between the toes might be the optimal
application area. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
cuddlebear
10-14-2003, 08:27 AM
Well, I have had success with WAGG and Nol, but here\'s one thing that might be relevant... I am not COMBINING
the two, they are worn on different spots of the body. SPMO on chest and sometimes wrists, WAGG on face.
This WAGG/NOL thing appears to be a serious issue, with numerous people, including long-time member Krtel,
reporting some serious side effects of combining the two, so I hope that at some point, we can get to the bottom of
that issue and figure out why and if we can do anything about it ....
I\'ve been wearing NOL for 8 years and
enjoy WAGG also, but gosh if the combo makes some of us \"nihilistic\", than that\'s pretty serious ...
CptKipling
10-14-2003, 08:36 AM
WAGG + nol is bad for me too.
franki
10-14-2003, 08:49 AM
Hmmm,
makes you wonder why on earth those two don\'t go well together..
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The good thing is both \"products\" are somewhat
similar in their effects (with WAGG being the more effective one in my opinion), so one doesn\'t need them both at
the same time.
I have to add I have not a great deal of experience with \"nol\", only used SOE and AE and
never tried \"nol\" on its own..
Holmes
10-14-2003, 08:50 AM
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I\'ve been wearing NOL for 8 years and enjoy WAGG
also, but gosh if the combo makes some of us \"nihilistic\", than that\'s pretty serious ...
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Yes, Nihilism is dire enough. Throw Claustrophobia (the fear of Santa) in
there and that could drive a man to distraction worse than any -nol/WAGG combo. (Oh...I see, it was the
-nol/WAGG combo that caused these afflictions, wasn\'t it? Sorry.)
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Holmes
cuddlebear
10-14-2003, 09:39 AM
Holmes, you know I really hate to admit this, but you may be even crazier than I am ...
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Franki, I can\'t get WAGG to work that well by itself, it
isn\'t until I use NOL along with it (not combined, but on separate parts of the body) that I get the real
results. Do you combine WAGG with a cologne or wear it straight?
franki
10-14-2003, 09:51 AM
I use
it with -none products like TE and I believe it works fine that way for me.
Holmes
10-14-2003, 10:04 AM
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Holmes, you know I really hate to admit this, but
you may be even crazier than I am ... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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LOL. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif A nutty bunch indeed, we artists.
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Holmes
Brian
10-14-2003, 11:09 AM
Like
Franki, I use WAGG with none products. I can\'t wear concentrated none products. I have to dilute them with a
cologne or with ethanol. When I wear WAGG, I can use the heavy none products without diluting them. The WAGG seems
to offset the adverse effects of the none, and I get better results.
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Brian
Id
like to also add wagg + nol = sad skyy
Its a deep depression for me
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Icarus
10-14-2003, 10:27 PM
Seems that a lot of us get bad jahoda from WAGG + -nol...
It shall be avoided!
Steve
It\'s not like anyone hasnt warned anyone. If you check my past threads you will even see me preaching not to
usethe combo, im sure others have as well.
LET THIS BE A
LESSON!!
:P
Sagacious1420
10-14-2003, 11:10 PM
Curious. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I get very good results w/ WAGG and
nol together and I apply to the neck, as well. However, I use both in combination w/ none and rone. I found that I
needed to play w/ the ratios a bit though. One thing I have found is that when I added WAGG to my usual combo of
NPA/AE/SOE, I can use less of both WAGG and SOE. I was using just NPA/AE/WAGG for a while but the results
weren\'t nearly as good as I have been getting since including the SOE again. As I said before, I had to tweek
the ratios a bit. I\'ve used all four products premixed and by applying each separately.
Ya know, we often
talk about individual body chemistry, and such, when it comes to personal succes w/ various products. I wonder if
this could apply to the unique effect of each product on each of us when we use them.
For example, IIRC,
didn\'t some ppl experience some mild depression w/ A1, but others didn\'t?
Curious indeed.
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Brian
10-15-2003, 03:57 AM
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I\'ve used all four products premixed and by
applying each separately.
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Sag,
Which works better, premixed or
applying seperately? I have all four products, and may want to try it.
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Brian
Sagacious1420
10-15-2003, 08:26 AM
Brian-
In general, I prefer to apply separately. I feel that I get better control of the dosage of
each product. I\'ve switched from using drops of WAGG to dabs, now that I\'m incorporating SOE again. Usually
around 3-4 dabs of WAGG along w/ about 4\" of SOE. I can get away w/ another 2\" or so of SOE, but only if
applied to the wrists. If I don\'t use SOE, I use 2-3 drops WAGG. I have found that too much WAGG (w/out any
SOE) can backfire...too much of a great guy, it seems. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Brian
10-15-2003, 10:54 AM
Thanks Sag. I\'ll have to do some experimenting with your combo and see what I come up with. SoE has never done
sh!t for me as a standalone, but it kicks a$$ in the WKM#1 mix. I have found that 2 drops of WAGG works well while
wearing heavy none products such as PI/m or RM. The 2 none products do sh!t for me without the WAGG. Anyway, I have
an idea where I want to start with your combo. We\'ll see how it goes.
Brian
cuddlebear
10-15-2003, 02:13 PM
Just to put this in the mix ... I am now wearing SOE gel on both arms (2 inch line) and WAGG/Polo Sport on my
wrists, and Cool Water + Nol on the back of my neck and a tiny wisp of None on the front of my neck. No rhyme or
reason for this motley crew, but I\'m feeling pretty good right now. A little better than normal. I think maybe
keeping the ingredients separate might allow people to use WAGG & NOL, although I wouldn\'t blame Icarus for
staying away after his experience. Would like to hear if any of our forum members who suffered under WAGG & NOL
combined, suffered any less when the two products were put on different spots on the body.
Cuddles
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