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manchorito
09-04-2003, 12:43 PM
It takes me a while to talk to a girl comfortably, you know, without having to think of what to say. And I want to be more outgoing, but I\'m not crazy enough to go to every good looking girl and say something. Yea Yea I know, its those confidence talks we\'ve had. Would WAGG help me be more comfortable around girls? What kind of effects does it have on other males? Hostility, respect, etc. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Andy
09-04-2003, 12:50 PM
Prozac ... Valium ... maybe Weed ? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

The only thing to gain confidence is to face your problem. You just have to talk more to feel comfortable while talking /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif .. Easy huh ? I\'d try lot\'s of nol, because it will have this loosening effect on yourself.

Whitehall
09-04-2003, 01:03 PM
Try just a little kava. It is a great relaxer in small doses and anxieties just seem to disappear.

WAGG also seems to reduce the tension from her side so that helps you lead her in conversation - something that most women will appreciate. They get nervous too and really like it when the man helps make them comfortable.

darkness
09-04-2003, 01:08 PM
sedatives can take away any motivation to talk to someone too. that\'s why you need some stimulants too /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif just kidding.

besides kava, which i am not a huge fan of but has other f0ollowers, there is valerian, which is very relaxing and I use to sleep. however, it could make you to calm and lazy. there are a couple other calming herbs, yyou can look it up on the internet, i forgot their names. just look at tension/anxiety.

Whitehall
09-04-2003, 01:17 PM
In low doses, kava is not very sedating at all. It\'s most noticable effect (at low dose) is directly on the anxiety centers of the brain. That\'s why I recommend it over the others. It also helps to that the edge off yohimbe which can make one uncomfortably nervous.

Kava, again at low doses, doesn\'t seem to potentiate alcohol although one should always be mindful of the possibility.

darkness
09-04-2003, 01:22 PM
when you say low doses, you mean whatever is recommended on the back of the bottle/tincture correct?

Have you ever tried Arizona Ice tea\'s Stress tea? That has a lot of the stress herbs in it and really helps when work gets stressful.

Xehupatl
09-11-2003, 04:20 AM
Some rope and chlorophorm are your friends ... no more small talk.

xvs
09-12-2003, 05:24 AM
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It takes me a while to talk to a girl comfortably, you know, without having to think of what to say. And I want to be more outgoing, but I\'m not crazy enough to go to every good looking girl and say something. Yea Yea I know, its those confidence talks we\'ve had. Would WAGG help me be more comfortable around girls? What kind of effects does it have on other males? Hostility, respect, etc. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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In my experience, WAGG mainly works on women, but does have a little \'friendly\' vibe with men too.

The effect on women is big, on men smaller. At least that\'s what I find.

Good luck!

Bottle
03-06-2004, 05:33 AM
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Try just a little kava. It is a great relaxer in small doses and anxieties

just seem to disappear.

WAGG also seems to reduce the tension from her side so that helps you lead her in

conversation - something that most women will appreciate. They get nervous too and really like it when the man

helps make them comfortable.

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can you get Kava in a regular

health store ?

and did you mean it has no effect if your drinking alchol

Watcher
03-06-2004, 12:17 PM
Add some SOE for slight of hand

- the unscented version sounds interesting - going to order next week.

Holmes
03-06-2004, 12:25 PM
SOE + Kava Kava = Force Of

Nature.

(Yes, you can buy it anywhere.)


Holmes

Watcher
03-06-2004, 12:31 PM
Lol thanks holmes

nbnbtc
03-06-2004, 07:19 PM
Just my two cents...I\'ve been

using Kava for years and the best I\'ve found is at www.kavaking.com (\"http://www.kavaking.com\") .

It\'s just the actual root ground to a fine powder, you mix it with cold water and drink, works great, can\'t go

wrong for $12.99.

Ash
03-06-2004, 11:00 PM
When I was coming down off my STANK

the other day I had bad anxiety. I mean it was really bad. I managed to score some black tar heroin. Everything\'s

cool now. I don\'t feel like talking much though. Hope that helps.

Bottle
03-07-2004, 04:48 AM
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SOE + Kava Kava = Force Of Nature.

(Yes, you can buy it

anywhere.)


Holmes

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Cool, I\'m gonna have a look for some

today then, never heard of it before.

CJ01
03-07-2004, 05:08 AM
that kava is powerful stuff bottle,

don´t overdo it and go easy /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bottle
03-07-2004, 05:19 AM
will do mate

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif cheers for the heads up

Bottle
03-07-2004, 05:21 AM
I did read on a web site that it

can be bad if you take too much, bad for your skin and other symtoms

CJ01
03-07-2004, 05:26 AM
yeah it does have side effects like

so many substances. What are you hoping for by using it? Might be a good idea to do some checking up on this one

before you take it just to be safe /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I did read up on it once but I

can´t remember all the details right now.

CJ

Bottle
03-07-2004, 05:32 AM
really for anxieties and

nervousness

CJ01
03-07-2004, 05:47 AM
Oh. I´ve something which I believe

in english is known as St. Johns wort (???)
I has a calming and relaxing effect without making you go to sleep

and is said not to have the side effects that kava for instance does and can be taken over a longer period of time

without addiction risk. You won´t need a high mg dose either /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bottle
03-07-2004, 06:06 AM
yeah I\'ve heard of

that...never heard of it used for these purposes though

Holmes
03-07-2004, 06:14 AM
But we\'re never gonna surveev

unless we are a little crazy.

You know?


Holmes

Bottle
03-07-2004, 06:17 AM
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But we\'re never gonna surveev unless we are a little crazy.

You

know?


Holmes

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hahaha what..is that The Christians..or Seal

or sumunk?

Bottle
03-07-2004, 06:17 AM
...Adamski (Seal)...?

Holmes
03-07-2004, 06:20 AM
\'Tis Mr. Samuel.

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(Adamski ain\'t exactly chopped livva, though...)


Holmes

CJ01
03-07-2004, 06:20 AM
I know, it´s primarily advertsised

as an anti-depressant but don´t let that put you off! To have that anti-depressant effect you need to take lots over

a period of time I presume, someone I knew was prescibed it and was told it´ll take a while to kick in.
I do hope

that it´s the same thing, damn I wished I knew for sure but namewise it makes sense and it really does sound the

same for purpose etc! I´m sure it is the same.

I first checked it out in a drugstore or supermarket in the

health section. The description on those packs were -dealing with stress, nervousnes etc. And it ahouldn´t take

long to take effect either /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

CJ01
03-07-2004, 06:22 AM
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But we\'re never gonna surveev unless we are a little crazy.

You

know?


Holmes




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hahaha what..is that

The Christians..or Seal or sumunk?


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> Seal

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif that guy looks so coool

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Bottle
03-07-2004, 06:26 AM
when I was 18 or so I used to

get called Seal...I had dredds I guess I looked a bit like him, hahaaha only I\'m not blck...oh while I\'m on

the subject...that geeza...jamiroquai (Jay Kay) stole my early 20\'s look and dance...bastard..I want my hats back

fool...LOL

right I\'m of out to see if I can hunt Kava, dam its just started to rain

Bottle
03-07-2004, 08:46 AM
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Oh. I´ve something which I believe in english is known as St. Johns wort

(???)
I has a calming and relaxing effect without making you go to sleep and is said not to have the side effects

that kava for instance does and can be taken over a longer period of time without addiction risk. You won´t need a

high mg dose either /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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OK its sunday, and some dumb shops arnt open on Sunday..namely the health shop with all its

earthly potions.

anyway so I had to goto Boots instead and they didnt have Kava Kava...but I got that St

John\'s Wort instead. its in Tincture form. much cheaper than the tablets which were ridiculas prices

Bottle
03-07-2004, 09:13 AM
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I know, it´s primarily advertsised as an anti-depressant but don´t let that

put you off! To have that anti-depressant effect you need to take lots over a period of time I presume, someone I

knew was prescibed it and was told it´ll take a while to kick in.
I do hope that it´s the same thing, damn I wished

I knew for sure but namewise it makes sense and it really does sound the same for purpose etc! I´m sure it is the

same.

I first checked it out in a drugstore or supermarket in the health section. The description on those packs

were -dealing with stress, nervousnes etc. And it ahouldn´t take long to take effect either

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yeah I got a

bottle caus I couldnt find kavakava. I\'m not depressed, just want something to loosen my tongue in certain

situations as it were. try it and see I guess...but I\'m not sure that it will do what I thought kava would do

after reading about it.