Primal with SOE or Not?

[Woodson]

Hi I was wondering if anyone has used Primal with SOE... I just got SOE and thats mostly for social hits.. could Primal be added for sexual hits? Is this one of the best phermones for sexual hits? lets say for a 22 year old male.. if so which one should I get.. the Unscented or the ylang-yland scented.. or are there better pheromones for sexual hits I should try with Scent of Eros?

Thanks

[Holmes]

I used to use scented PI/m with SOE gel and it worked very well in many situations. Of course, I\'m not quite a 22-year-old...

For sexual hits, you might also think about NPA and TE.

Would you say that you\'re an alpha male-type, \"lone wolf,\" friendly/outgoing...? That info would help, too.

Holmes

[Woodson]

Well I am friendly but shy.

[Woodson]

any suggestions

[CptKipling]

PI and SOE is one of the very first combos, it was used by Bruce, I think, with nice results.

If you are shy then you need some -none, possibly TE.

[Holmes]

Yeah, considering what you\'ve said, I\'d think PI + SOE would certainly be worth a try. I got noticable results with 2-3 drops of PI and a half-pack of SOE. But I\'ll have to throw in a \"don\'t necessarily try this at home\" waiver, because that might constitute an OD for you. My OD limit was quite clear: 4 or more drops and all of a sudden I was practically in a scene from \"Fight Club.\" Not good.

So just experiment with the dosage levels...or, like the Cpt. says, you might also want to consider TE (or NPA).

And of course there\'s always AE.

Holmes

[Brian]

I\'ve never had any success with SoE.

[Woodson]

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PI and SOE is one of the very first combos, it was used by Bruce, I think, with nice results.

If you are shy then you need some -none, possibly TE.

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what would -none be?
is TE- the edge for sexual hits?

[Holmes]

PI, NPA, and TE (which is a less concentrated NPA) are all -none(Androstenone)-based products. They are all used for sexually-oriented responses.

Androstenone is the \"Alpha Male\" pheromone, which brings about sexual hits.

Holmes

[Holmes]

Also see www.love-scent.com/reference/pmc05/index.html (\"http://www.love-scent.com/reference/pmc05/index.html\")

Holmes

[Woodson]

maybe i should go with THE CHAMPION
APC + NPA

I have read that link... it looks like that is the best combo

i have scent of eros.. that doesnt really do it for me.. i get some social hits but not hardcore i need something to add to the sexual hits maybe.. and i don\'t want to spend all this money on phermones thats why i cant decide and i\'m researching and asking you for advice which or which not to get. thanks for all the help.

[Woodson]

I\'ve doing some reasearching...
for a shy guy like me

these are my options
PI with SOE
or
APC with NPA
or
TE with NPA

hmmm which one will it be?

[Holmes]

Woodson,

NPA and TE together would be rather pointless. They\'re both the same product, only in different concentrations (NPA is more concentrated.)

NPA/TE and WAGG is yet another combo to seriously consider, as it seems to have been working great for some of the folks here. (The Edge Essentials, which combine The Edge ingredients with essential oils, could be used in place of the regular TE, as well. Nice fragrances.)

And again, PI and SOE seems to work well, too.

Finally, AE is known as a great standalone and has *also* been said to work well with SOE (for a boost in -nol and -rone) or NPA (for a boost in -none.) AE is probably the least complicated of options at this point, as it contains -none, -nol, and -rone.

Decisions, decisions... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Holmes

[krtel]

PI &amp; SoE work very well together. Where were you when I field tested KR#1? :P

[Woodson]

Well first I think since I already have the SOE bottle I will order the PI and go for the PI+SOE combo.

after that I will try other stuff
like the NPA and whatever

How about thoughts on APC? and would that be a good combo with NPA... oh this NPA everyone is talking about it and saying that thats the best stuff.

[Woodson]

damn PI is expensive..

which one should I get the scented or the unscented ?

I have no clue.. I will be mixing PI with soe(bottle) if that makes any difference or not.

[Holmes]

I\'ve only used the scented so can\'t help ya as to the other. The Ylang-ylang is nice enough scent...mixes okay w/ SOE...

(Unscented PI users speak up please! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

Holmes

[Woodson]

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I\'ve only used the scented so can\'t help ya as to the other. The Ylang-ylang is nice enough scent...mixes okay w/ SOE...

(Unscented PI users speak up please! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

Holmes

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Holmes.. tell me your experiences with PI and SOE
where they great? allright? nothing special?

[Holmes]

Woodson,

My experiences with the two together were very consistent, very obvious, and, in some cases, really bizarre. DIHLs and unexplained flirting from people I already knew, as well as people I\'d never met before (pretty famous individuals, in a few instances) were commonplace. Weird, but I ain\'t complaining.

In general, I\'d found African-Americans and Africans to be by far the most openly responsive and Asians (including Asian-Americans) to be least so (hence my desire to experiment with other mixes now.)

So, yes, I did have results and they were noticable. Too much PI/m around guys, though? Wrong answer. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Trust me on that one...

Holmes

[darkness]

does PI/m work for you straight up?

it doesn\'t for me, but maybe if i tried it with SOE, i could get your results. i\'ve been meaning to get on some of these famous chicks /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[CJ01]

PI and SOE - that´s a bit like AE without the scent, so why not go for AE?

[Holmes]

\"does PI/m work for you straight up?
it doesn\'t for me, but maybe if i tried it with SOE, i could get your results. i\'ve been meaning to get on some of these famous chicks.\"

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif The PI/m was a lot more effective (for me) when combined with the SOE.

Holmes

[CJ01]

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i\'ve been meaning to get on some of these famous chicks.\"


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what famous chicks?

[Holmes]

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PI and SOE - that´s a bit like AE without the scent, so why not go for AE?

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Yeah, that\'s true, AE might be more versatile. I used it for the first time today, though, and got a crazy rush. Yikes. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Holmes

[CJ01]

A rush? You mean like a phero buzz? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[darkness]

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i\'ve been meaning to get on some of these famous chicks.\"


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what famous chicks?

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i saw catherine zita jones a few blocks from my apartment this summer???? michelle phiefer was there too. i actually see a lot of reality tv people. there\'s one who\'s a bartender at a place i go to that i actually was at last night. but anyway, occasionally i see celebrities (non-reality), and like holmes, its kinda funny to have mones on around them because it adds humor to the reaction (if you get one).

[CJ01]

Famous people aren´t any different from the rest of us, except maybe they´re much more spoiled!!!
Stay away from the ones that are attached though, like CZJones - there´s just no point, unless you´re not after anying /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Have fun and let us know when you get any results /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[darkness]

lol...i know. i am not actually interested in anyone famous. its just for laughs.

regular girls....now those are my superstars

[Holmes]

That\'s cool, Darkness. Michelle is a great actress.

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i actually see a lot of reality tv people. there\'s one who\'s a bartender at a place i go to that i actually was at last night.

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From which shows?

My fave reality TV series was \"The It Factor,\" and ironically I did know a few of those people. But they didn\'t qualify as \"famous\" then.

As far the celebrity/mones thing, I rarely notice or \"spot\" celebrities \'round these parts--or at least I\'m not lookin\' for \'em. And I\'ve only noticed the effects of mones on people like that when I\'ve been close to or have been talking to \'em. The funniest thing is that, during the encounters that got the most obvious reactions, I was too dense to realize who the person actually was until after it was over...doh! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Hey, all in the name of a laugh...

Holmes

[Holmes]

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regular girls....now those are my superstars

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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I\'m with ya there, bro.

Holmes

[Holmes]

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A rush? You mean like a phero buzz? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Well, like a really elevated heart rate and a highly-caffeinated feeling (largely unwanted). Lasted the whole day thru and now I feel utterly knackered. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Is this just a cowinkeedink?

Holmes

[darkness]

From which shows? &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

big brother, real world and married by america.


one time i tried to sidle up to donald trump\'s wife and hit on her in front of him. it was just a joke that my collegue said in jest, so i am like \"okay\". anway, i couldn\'t get next to her, just him.

[Brian]

Woodson,

If you intend to mix primal with scented products, I\'d go with the unscented. I have found that APC+PI/m at a 5:1 ratio, works very well. I don\'t get any results with the JB#1 mix. Of course that\'s me, you are a different person and it may work very well for you. One thing to keep in mind is the consetration of the none products. I found that PI/m didn\'t work for me until I dilluted it. It took me a long time to realize that. That\'s why TE, works better for me than NPA does, because it\'s less consentrated. If you find that dilluting PI works better for you, you might want to consider TE as your next choice. You won\'t have to mess around trying dillute it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Brian

[Indigo]

Woodson,

If you

intend to mix primal with scented products, I\'d go with the unscented. I have found that APC+PI/m at a 5:1 ratio,

works very well. I don\'t get any results with the JB#1 mix. Of course that\'s me, you are a different person

and it may work very well for you. One thing to keep in mind is the consetration of the none products. I found that

PI/m didn\'t work for me until I dilluted it. It took me a long time to realize that. That\'s why TE, works

better for me than NPA does, because it\'s less consentrated. If you find that dilluting PI works better for you,

you might want to consider TE as your next choice. You won\'t have to mess around trying dillute it.

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Brian
Hello,

what do you use for dilluting the

oil based PI?

Regards

Indigo