Almost AWESOME Night Pt III but WTF is wrong w/ me [Archive]

pelotudo

06-14-2003, 08:57 PM

Ok, after todays chapter in this Trilogy of my love life, I am seriously questioning my test levels and libido. Most of you have already seen the situation unfolding, but check out AWESOME Night and Pt. II for fillers.

So anyways, after the other night I\'m feeling pretty good about things. I\'m happy, not really worrying about what is going on, and going with the flow. I feel relaxed all the time when I\'m talking to her, and going along with it.

So saw her for a few mins last night while she was on her way to work (couldn\'t get off to go out with us). Stopped by while she was at Amy\'s house and chilled with them till she had to leave. Set it up for today. Today, get up around 11, chill at my house for a little bit...then around 2 get ready to go. Kill the customary kitten before heading out (its been like 3 days :P), and I realize later this was a mistake I think... I go in to her work around 3 to grab a sub/OJ and head to my friends house. Set up for her coming with me tonight after she gets off work at 4. I head to my friends house, and she calls me about 4:20. She went over to Amy\'s house, and nobody\'s there (Amy, Tim, and Amys\' rents all went yachting today, and wont be back till late), so she invites me over. I head in -moneless today, nothing on but some Armani Mania and a spray or two of AXE Tsuanmi on my shirt. Get over there, and we head up to the mall after she gets ready. Have a pretty good time there I guess, we were joking around and laughing the whole time, and I grabbed my dad a nice Tommy wallet for Fathers Day tomorrow.

We leave there, and go back to the house. It\'s like 6:30, and they still wont be back for a while so I know Jenna and I are going to be alone for a while. We get back, and watch TV for a few mins then move to the bedroom. We call them and they\'re not going to be back till like 9 at the earliest, so we have like 2 1/2 hours by ourselves. Could this be any more perfect? NO, IT COULDN\'T.

So anyways, we go in Amys\' bedroom and plop down for a little bit, and talk about EVERYTHING... From how many partners to cool places to have sex, to what we see in each other, how long we usually wait before having sex in a relationship (her 2 times, both like 1-1 1/2 months before sex), etc. etc...this is where I become a retard.

The entire time on the bed we\'re on each other, I\'m trying to figure out what I should do. She was giving me all the signs in the world, and IDK what the h*ll I was thinking. She was talking about the 2nd night we were together, and how we moved really fast and she was like woah that was quick..and that once she gets to a point w/ a guy where she\'s comfortable (I.E. hinting toward the second night how she was comfortable with me now) that sex and being intimate is a big part for her. The whole time I was like I want to go to sleep, even though I wasn\'t really even tired...

We even got to one point where she was on top of me strattling, grinding her hips in to me and leaning over making out...and I was like ummmm, yeah. It was like I didn\'t know what the hell to do or something, I was like anxious/retarded/scared or something. We kept swapping positions and I ended up on top of her w/ her legs wrapped around my back. I started kissing her neck and going against her, then it was like I just stopped. I don\'t know why the hell, b/c I knew if I had grabbed her zipper and tugged on her pants, she would have taken them off right there...but it was like I was lost, I felt like..ok, so what now.

IDK what the HELL is wrong with me, but I\'m seriously questioning my libido or something here. I don\'t know if it was a mistake killing that kitten this morning, or that I didn\'t take any of my vitamins (multivitamin, l-arginine, yohimbe), or lack of pheros to push me, but I felt lost.

ARGH, OMFG I feel like an idiot. I know I can talk to her tomorrow and be like...sorry about last night I just had a bunch of crap on my mind and was really tired and stuff, that\'s why I was being like I was...and it\'ll explain it to her, but I don\'t know how to explain it to myself. I mean, I\'ve got one of the hottest chicks I\'ve ever been with...next to me in bed, alone, for 2 hours, and I don\'t make a move? Am I fu*king ghey or what!? IDK whether I need her to be more aggressive or what, or what I need to do, but can u guys give me any help w/ this? Anything else I could take to boost test/libido levels b4 heading over there. I mean, I know I want it, but it was like I had no initiative... or like I was lost and didn\'t know what to do; and I\'m afraid that if I don\'t keep up the cool/confident/sexually secure guy I\'m going to lose her quick b/c she\'s going to want more, especially after we moved so quick that 2nd night and since then haven\'t done hardly anything...

Cliffs: Met up w/ same girl. Go out for a while, then back to friends house where it\'s just me and her alone in a bed for 2 hours. Instead of doing what I\'m supposed to do, we talk for like 2 hours and I do NOTHING. Seriously questioning my libido and test levels right now and need counceling to get this sh*t right before I disappoint...

-Jon

Whiffy

06-14-2003, 09:14 PM

You\'re gay.

Okay, now that we got that outta the way... Here\'s what you need to do. STOP THINKING ABOUT GETTING LAID! If you\'re in bed, you\'re making out, you\'re comfortable, move forward and start peeling off some clothes. Even better, have sex. But jeeez, quit thinking about cologne, pheros, \"oh she\'s so sweet\" ... just do what you FEEL like doing. Also, a little alcohol never hurt. Drink up.

As for tomorrow, don\'t apologize. If you\'re determined to have sex tomorrow, you\'re gonna be aggressive and you\'re probably gonna do it. No need to apologize; your actions are going to let her know she\'s desirable.

That is, if she does get with you tomorrow. Right now, you\'ve rejected her in her eyes. She\'s thinking: WTF? Why didn\'t he try anything?

Don\'t worry about it. You\'ll make up for it soon enough. Enjoy the ride.

pelotudo

06-14-2003, 09:16 PM

I wont be actually seeing her tomorrow tho, I\'ll just talk to her on the phone (maybe) after she gets off work. I prolly wont see her until like Mon/Tues night unless she gets off early tomorrow or something, and can hang out.

Whiffy

06-14-2003, 09:19 PM

Okay then, when you talk to her .. you tell her how good she felt yesterday. Sure, compliment her personaiity too. But I bet she\'d like to know she turns you on. You gotta tell her that so you\'ll have another crack at it. Seriously, bro.

pelotudo

06-14-2003, 09:24 PM

Whif, we need to me up so U can teach me this ish like first hand. You can just chill out w/ us and we\'ll go to the bathroom and you can be like..yeah, so go back in there and do this and that, and then this...and you\'ll be golden

I\'ll go back out, and everything will be good. :P Ok, so it\'s planned, Publix at 2pm tomorrow we\'ll meet /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

-Jon

Whiffy

06-14-2003, 09:37 PM

Haha, right. You wouldn\'t want me stealin\' your girl from ya. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Remember, I know who she is...

Ahh, relax. Go read www.sosuave.com (\"http://www.sosuave.com\") or something.

EXIT63

06-15-2003, 03:15 AM

Come on dude...you\'re 20 for Christs sake. You should be pounding her like a cheap steak! Now she thinks you\'re a big homo (she\'s probably right /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif )!!!

Elana

06-15-2003, 04:00 AM

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I know I can talk to her tomorrow and be like...sorry about last night I just had a bunch of crap on my mind and was really tired and stuff, that\'s why I was being like I was...and it\'ll explain it to her, but I don\'t know how to explain it to myself.

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Jon- Rather than tell her that you had things on your mind, or whatever lame excuse you mentioned, you should mention something about how much she turned you on and how bad you wanted her, and it was so hard controlling yourself, but you knew you had to because you respected what she said about waiting over a month. Then say, whenever you are ready, I will be ready to make you feel so good. That way you look fantastic....she was making you hot (which she wants to hear) and you respect the hell out of her.

bundyburger

06-15-2003, 04:11 AM

What Elana said . That\'s perfect.

Only let her see your positive feelings about her. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Make her think you were bursting to devour her and struggled to control yourself. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Elana

06-15-2003, 04:15 AM

BB- Go to sleep!!!

Elana

06-15-2003, 04:20 AM

Jon- There is nothing even slightly wrong with you. You have been obsessing over this girl for weeks now. You finally have her in the situation that you have been dreaming about, and you got really nervous. It\'s no big deal. As I said before....kick her ass off the pedistal....stop obsessing over her. You will be fine. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

proteus

06-15-2003, 04:25 AM

It can work to your advantage if you say the right things. Don\'t say you were too tired or stuff like that. Just tell her some stuff like you always have sex with girls to soon, you are trying to do things differently with her etc. Just say something like you wanted to take it slow with her as you care about her and don\'t want it to be another one night stand etcetc. And then arrange another date VERY soon and this time get lots of sleep before you see her, stay away from the porn/stroking the log, take your vitamins/horny goat weed etc. and this time do the deed or she\'ll definitely think you\'re gay - one last chance /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

pelotudo

06-15-2003, 06:22 AM

Thanks Elana, you come through again as always.

-Jon, who\'s out to get some Horny Goat Weed and avoid huntin down any kittens for a day or two...

Andy

06-15-2003, 06:56 AM

Jon- Don\'t forget to bring some L-Arginine back along with your Horny Goat Weed.

pelotudo

06-15-2003, 07:39 AM

Yeah I\'ve got 500mg tabs and L-Arginine/Yohimbe Root multi\'s from GNC. I just gotta grab some Horny Goat and Zinc. Other than those, anything else I should grab?

MOBLEYC57

06-15-2003, 07:53 AM

Big P!!!! You\'re just gonna have to accept the facts my friend........you\'re gay! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif As the world turns! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Got any vaseline I can borrow? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

It\'s okay Sir. You can count that as a damn good night of teasing. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif It builds character! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif That\'s good every once and again my friend. She\'ll probably abuse your noodle at the next outting for making her want you so! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Just because you have the chance, doesn\'t mean that you have to perform, or even want to. You get cool points for being able to talk to her about all kinds of things Mister Studmuffin! T\'will be otay. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif And stop spanking yer monkey before going out! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif If the demon awakens....let it rise up into a double bicep pose! Say to it, \"Stand up! and be counted!!\" Use it as a conversation piece....\"Oh that spot!? He\'s always salivating at any sign of dinner!\" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Be well Mister P! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

pelotudo

06-15-2003, 08:01 AM

ROFLMAO,

Mob, you\'re a riot. I\'m going to play Elana\'s hand on this one, and act like I could barely control myself yesterday :P. I just popped some Multivits and L-Arginine, and I\'m ready to get outta here.

Mobley, got any Trojans and massage oil I can borrow? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

-Jon

franki

06-15-2003, 08:34 AM

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Jon- Don\'t forget to bring some L-Arginine back along with your Horny Goat Weed.

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I always see these l-arginine bars in the gym. Should I take/buy one before or after working out? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

ToBeOrNotToBe

06-15-2003, 12:27 PM

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Yeah I\'ve got 500mg tabs and L-Arginine/Yohimbe Root multi\'s from GNC. I just gotta grab some Horny Goat and Zinc. Other than those, anything else I should grab?

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I keep reading posts like these and I wonder if that\'s the only way that allows you (ppl) to finish what you\'re up to finish. Come on... I find this ridiculous, honestly. You should always confirm with a doctor if it\'s ok for you to take that. I know... no relevant side effects. DO NOT SAY \"NO SIDE EFFECTS\" cause that\'s a major lye!! What you can say is that you may have no side effects and even if you have some, they won\'t probably be important (I hope you know the \"true\" meaning of \"side effects\", there\'s a lot more in there than the majority of you would imagine). A doctor should know better what is the best for you and best dose... that way you can achieve max results, know I\'m sayin\'?

Anyway, that\'s just my humble opinion... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

proteus

06-15-2003, 12:40 PM

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I keep reading posts like these and I wonder if that\'s the only way that allows you (ppl) to finish what you\'re up to finish. Come on... I find this ridiculous, honestly. You should always confirm with a doctor if it\'s ok for you to take that. I know... no relevant side effects. DO NOT SAY \"NO SIDE EFFECTS\" cause that\'s a major lye!! What you can say is that you may have no side effects and even if you have some, they won\'t probably be important (I hope you know the \"true\" meaning of \"side effects\", there\'s a lot more in there than the majority of you would imagine). A doctor should know better what is the best for you and best dose... that way you can achieve max results, know I\'m sayin\'?

Anyway, that\'s just my humble opinion... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Thing about it is allopathic medicine is very uneducated (willfully or not) about alternative remedies to different conditions, and in many ways it\'s a monopoly that is interested more in preserving it\'s hold on medical knowledge than healing. Now there are many good MDs out there, but I find that if one does their research carefully one can often find over-the-counter remedies in health food stores that are better and have less side effects than the commonly prescribed drugs that MDs usually pump out. I don\'t trust many doctors period, as I\'ve seen too many situations where they seem to cause more harm than good and their hostility/opposition to the health supplementation upsurge just confirms much of my suspicions. No offense meant - just my two cents.

ToBeOrNotToBe

06-15-2003, 12:57 PM

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Thing about it is allopathic medicine is very uneducated (willfully or not) about alternative remedies to different conditions, and in many ways it\'s a monopoly that is interested more in preserving it\'s hold on medical knowledge than healing. Now there are many good MDs out there, but I find that if one does their research carefully one can often find over-the-counter remedies in health food stores that are better and have less side effects than the commonly prescribed drugs that MDs usually pump out. I don\'t trust many doctors period, as I\'ve seen too many situations where they seem to cause more harm than good and their hostility/opposition to the health supplementation upsurge just confirms much of my suspicions. No offense meant - just my two cents.

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Who told you the doctor would necessary prescribe the \"drugs\" you are refering to? He can well prescribe what you want, but add some important information, such as how much of it you should take, in what situations...

By the way, do you know that those \"over-the-counter remedies in health food stores\" can eventually interfere with medecins prescribed by your doctor when you are ill? There\'s a lot more in the \"side effects\" world than we can imagine...

\"as I\'ve seen too many situations where they seem to cause more harm than good\" - well, that\'s truly unfair...of course there are incompetent doctors, as it happens in every job. Fortunately, the percentage of the competent ones is a lot higher.

The problem with this is that most ppl don\'t understand anything about medicine. When there\'s a problem with a patient, they just say \"That doctor is an incompetent, he shouldn\'t be allowed to practise medicine\"... but then I ask: \"Do you know what that patient had? Do you know how he got that? Do you know how they could treat him? Do you know what his chances were? Do you have super-RXvision as superman to know what\'s going on inside of his body? Do you think doctors are gods?? How do you think a doctor feels when a patient dies or gets some real trouble by not following the doctor\'s \"orders\"? (believe me this happens a lot)...

Pay attention that I am not saying that all doctors are competent... of course. Many ppl have died or got problems because of medic negligence, but fortunately that\'s rare.

Andy

06-15-2003, 01:41 PM

I am the offspring of a MD-only family, my dad was a physician, my mom is, even my sisters are in da healing business, though one made it only to a nurse, the other is a psychologist. Take my word for it ... most are incompetent, white coated assholes with dollar signs in their eyes and nothing in their brain. They studied medicine only for one reason ... to make a shitload of money. I can\'t imagine anything worse than that, the only reason should be the wish to help people.

Elana

06-15-2003, 02:24 PM

So Jon......did you call her today?

pelotudo

06-15-2003, 02:28 PM

Nope, I got up late, chilled at my house, then went up to meet Tim to take him to fix his tire. We stopped by Publix to grab him some cigs, and saw here there for a sec. She\'s not getting off till like 9:30, but might come over to Amy\'s house afterward. I\'m headin over to grab a movie and head over there now, and hopefully she\'ll stop by later.

I don\'t know whether it was my multivitamin, the 50mg Zinc, The Yohimbe, or the NPA/APC I have on right now...but I\'m almost to the point of making out with my hand I want it so bad...

MUST....RESIST.......KITTEN...........KILLING. ARGGGGGHHH, ELANA, I NEED YOU :P

Elana

06-15-2003, 02:30 PM

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MUST....RESIST.......KITTEN...........KILLING. ARGGGGGHHH, ELANA, I NEED YOU :P

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I will be happy to help you out any way I can. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

pelotudo

06-15-2003, 02:33 PM

Yeah I\'ve heard that before...and I end up in the middle of the Hilton lobby w/ my pants down and splashing NPA all over myself hoping you\'ll show up.

BTW, I\'m still waiting for that update you promised... I\'m wanting to see the \"prograss\" you have made /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Elana

06-15-2003, 02:37 PM

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BTW, I\'m still waiting for that update you promised... I\'m wanting to see the \"prograss\" you have made

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Whiffy

06-15-2003, 06:39 PM

Elana\'s \"progressed\"??? How can that be? She\'s perfect already. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

pelotudo

06-15-2003, 07:34 PM

Oh you just don\'t know...and neither do I; yet.

So if u guys care at all about an update. Today was pretty fun. I chilled out here for a couple of hours, then went to pick up Tim to take him to his car (he got a flat). We have a \"discussion\" on the way over there. Tim is hardcore falling in love w/ Amy. They\'ve been going out 2 weeks and 2 days, and they\'re f*ing like rabbits and he\'s sending her flowers w/ love you cards and sh*t...but he\'s being a 17 year old if u guys know what I mean. He\'s being REALLY insecure about EVERYTHING, and gets jealous over nothing. He\'s really pissing Amy off, and that\'s bad for me too. She\'s got someone on the backburner that she could have as a relationship/FB any time she wants, and Tim would be gone quicker than my libido yesterday after killing that kitten.

So, on the drive over there I\'m trying to explain to him what he\'s doing wrong here, and what\'s going to happen if he doesn\'t back off. For the most part, he didn\'t want to hear it, but told me he would chill out w/ her on stuff.

Left, went over to a friends house for a little bit while he went to see Amy and go out to dinner. 9:30, Jenna gets off and heads over to Amy\'s house. They call me, and I head over from my friends. All of us hang out w/ Amy\'s parents talking about stuff, and it comes up about my nipple rings. Amy\'s like... I still haven\'t seen these yet, I gotta see if they\'r even real. Tim just about killed himself right there in the chair. He grabbed her and took her back to the bedroom and started being himself again, all insecure and wtf do u want to see his rings for huh...etc.

So Jenna and I go chill in Amy\'s room, and talk. It feels so good to actually be able to hold a really good conversation with someone who is on the same level as you. In the past, no girl and I have ever \"clicked\" this much when we dated, but Jenna and I like a lot of the same stuff. So we talked and laid there for like 10 mins while Tim/Amy were in the other room. Amy comes back in pissed off, and Tim behind her. Tim\'s like I\'m outta her, I\'m walking home, l8r. Amy grabs him and takes him outside and they go talk or something, then come back in pissed off still. So she\'s like..ok guys, u gotta go. Jenna was getting pissed at this point, mainly b/c of Tim and him pissing Amy off.

So anyways, here\'s how it is right now:

Tim is pissing the hell out of Amy being insecure about EVERYTHING and getting jealous over small [bad word] even though they\'ve only been going out like 2 weeks now, but he\'s falling for her. I\'m going along with the flow w/ Jenna, and it\'s going really good. I\'m relaxed now around her, I can talk to her, and finally getting over the initial \"OMFG this girl is hot and I\'m going out w/ her\" shock, as I really get to know her now. Tim\'s going to f things up though.. They will talk about me w/ him around, and they will talk about him when I\'m around. He tells me what\'s good, etc..and I tell him what he\'s doing to be an idiot. This is perfect, if he wouldn\'t be an idiot and get like he does. So anyways, I\'m off to bed guys, another awesome night...another day tomorrow....Have fun /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

-Jon

Anyone have any Horny Goat Weed I can borrow for tomorrow? Good things are gonna happen and I couldn\'t find any today... Trip to GNC in the morning while I working /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

pelotudo

06-15-2003, 07:38 PM

OMFG I need to write shorter posts, and leave out some of these innate details...Oh well, if u don\'t want to read it then screw u guys :P I will cut them down tho if u want me to, or if u like \"StoryTime w/ Jonathan\" then I\'ll keep it up /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Whiffy

06-15-2003, 10:10 PM

Storytime is a good idea. BTW, sounds like your buddy might screw things up here and some of it might spill over onto you and Jenna. No hurry, but you better hit her up pretty soon. Yeah, yeah, I know you have all this respect for her and wanna treat her right... Deep conversations prove she\'s a good girl with a heart... Blah, blah, blah...

Well, understand this: Girls like sex just as much as guys do (they just aren\'t as vocal about it as we are). So with that in mind, don\'t be Mr. Polite and wait to be all romantic - set up a good date and finish it off like a guy, no more \"hanging out.\" You can hang out with friends, you need to set up some action with this girl.

Just my thoughts, though...

Good luck.

Elana

06-15-2003, 10:44 PM

Thanks Whiffy /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

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set up a good date and finish it off like a guy, no more \"hanging out.\" You can hang out with friends, you need to set up some action with this girl.

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Whiffy- you and I are on the same page with this one.
Jon- take care of this woman already. Give her the D. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

**DONOTDELETE**

06-15-2003, 11:00 PM

Yes, what Whiffy said.

pelotudo

06-16-2003, 03:55 AM

LOL, you guys are too good :P.

It\'s kind of weird how things are though as far as the dates/whatever. See, she\'s kind of grounded right now, and when we\'re hanging out...her mom is thinking she\'s at work. If she found out she\'s w/ me, things would get real bad real quick. So, like, after she goes to night school, she comes over to Amy\'s house and chills for a couple of hours. Her mom doesn\'t even like her going over to Amy\'s house that much, but will let her do it since they\'ve been friends for like 7 years. And she doesn\'t have a cell (got taken away after she got in trouble), so she calls me, or talks to Amy and then Amy calls me. She should have her cell back soon though, so things should be able to get back to normal soon. I see the D coming her way though, it\'s just a matter of time. :P.

-Jon

Whiffy

06-16-2003, 04:00 PM

And ... if you don\'t hit it pretty soon. May wanna lay low for a little while so you can whelt up some kind of appetite in her for you. I mean, come on ... she basically knows where you are at all times, and when you are gonna see her you rent a movie. Ehhh, better change it up, Jon. She\'s a cutie, so she\'s used to guys fawning all over her. You gotta separate yourself from the countless Johns she\'s seen before.

But I\'m proud of ya, kid. You\'re doing great.

Now hit it.

Elana

06-18-2003, 04:22 PM

Where is our nightly update? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Whiffy

06-18-2003, 04:27 PM

No more updates, Elana, he\'s too busy getting laid it seems.

Good for Jon!

Elana

06-18-2003, 04:38 PM

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No more updates, Elana, he\'s too busy getting laid it seems.

Good for Jon!

<hr /></blockquote>I sure hope you are right. I am getting sick of this....\"we kissed and were all over each other.\" YAWN /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Whiffy

06-18-2003, 07:35 PM

I know! what is it with teenagers today? All this kissing and talking... Doesn\'t anyone fvck anymore?! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

pelotudo

06-18-2003, 07:45 PM

Heh, I JUST got home and was thinking... Maybe I should update the L-S crew on the lovelife. Then I get on, and viola...you guys are requesting it :P.

So anyways, things are moving along nicely...relationship wise. I haven\'t hunted down and slaughtered any kittens since Saturday morning, and let me tell you...I\'m dying right now. I don\'t know if it\'s the daily intake of L-Arginine, Yohimbe, pheros, or just the time...but OMFG I can\'t wait... I\'m holding out though /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif.

So we\'ve hung out like every night this week. She has her cell back now, and calls me while I\'m at work and we talk some, then she calls me when she gets out of school and I head over to chill w/ them.

As for the juicy stuff, not much more is happening. We\'ve done the whole makeout/rubbing thing, but nothing really more than that. There are always other people around or we\'re in the den alone w/ the chance of someone popping in at any time. We started getting in to it heavy last night, but she said we\'re going to be \"mature\" about it and wait a little longer... I\'m thinking that means: A. NEVER or B. One month, like usual. Next Friday is going to be the one month mark, and all 4 of us are planning on going out together, then breaking off and Jenna and I are coming back to my place (if all goes well). So we\'ll see how it goes.

Oh yeah, the competition element has been tossed on me too. I talked to Tim, and he told me that Jenna was talking to Amy and telling her about her ex asking her to maybe start going back out again. She told him that she was already seeing someone (me :P) and left it at that. So that\'s good. Anyways, on to the more pressing issue... Today, I went over to see her about 7. She got out of school and was over at Amy\'s place w/ Amys\' parents. I get there, and we go to leave to go grab some food at Chili\'s. As we\'re walking out to the car, this guy pulls up in an older Explorer. He gets out, and she\'s like.... Um, Hi there Jeff, what are you doing here? I ran back in the house for a second to grab a drink, and came back out. She was talking to him, so I let her talk and started to walk to my car. They talked for like 10 secs or so, and she went over to his truck and got a piece of paper from him then came over and we left. Here\'s the story behind Jeff: He always had the hots for Jenna, but he had a GF and Jenna didn\'t really want anything to do with him. So he tells Jenna that him and his GF broke up and Jenna said that she decided to give him a chance. She did, and after going out for a couple of days his GF called him saying WTF are you doing. Long story short, he didn\'t break up w/ his GF and was trying to go out w/ Jenna. They stopped seeing each other after that. Fast forward to now, he really broke up w/ his GF and now he\'s coming back to try to get something going w/ Jenna. If I had known this, I would have gone over and talked to him when he came up, and would have given him a nice firm get the [bad word] off my turf handshake and introduce myself... But since I didn\'t know who he was and didn\'t want to interrupt, I just let it be. She told him who I was, and I guess got his # (the note. As she was leaving tonight I grabbed her backside while we were kissing, and the paper was in there. I\'m like what\'s in your pocket, and she said just a piece of paper, and grabbed my hand and pushed the paper back down in it and left.)

So I\'m going to talk to Amy tomorrow, and see whether I have anything to worry about or not... Either way, I\'m not sure whether I should sweat it or not; or whether I should let her know right now that I\'m not one to share and at the first hint of her going out w/ someone else (whether we\'re just \"dating\" or not, I don\'t like the idea that the girl I\'m going out w/ is w/ someone else) and I\'m out.

She\'s also talking about this guy named Chris. She\'s had a crush on him for like her whole life, and is getting him to come over and cut her grass this weekend. I don\'t think there\'s anything I should really think about here either, but the little insecure/jealous guy inside me starts running around after hearing this stuff.

So right now I\'m thinking I just should ignore both of these guys. Getting jealous, and showing that competition is bothering me, will do me no good and probably piss her off if I start questioning her... And if she\'s going to see other guys, she\'s going to anyways whether I be a little insecure bit*h or not. What do u guys think?

-Jon

Oh, and something else while I\'m thinking about it now :P. Guess what she told me today? The first time she met me (that first night we went out), she thought like after 20 mins that I was a jerk and not someone she would want to go out with...but after being with her a couple of hours, then the next night she realized I was \"nice\" and worth keeping around a little while. I asked her straight up what kept me around after that first night, what made her want to see me again, and she said \"I don\'t know.\"

Anyone got any pheros I can borrow?

Andy

06-18-2003, 08:02 PM

*grabsjonbyhisshouldersandstartstoshakehim*

Ahhh .. dude .. fvck her .. dammit. This crap is making my! nuts hurt. What is so mature about suppressed passion ? This is bogus crap that children come up with that wish to be mature. Either that or it\'s plain and simply just playin\' the \"you\'ll wait if you really like me\" game. This would be already too much for me in the given context especially in combination with the \"other guys issue\". I hope she explained herself really well, would be a sign of sheer disrespect otherwise ...

DaVinciKittie

06-18-2003, 08:27 PM

Aww, come on Andy, cut the girl a little slack! She honestly might not realise how badly she\'s teasing Jon. I know a lot of you guys seem to think that we\'re always teasing and leading you on for the fun of it, but honestly, we don\'t physically *need* sex the way you do. Okay okay, in anticipation of the uproar *that* statement will cause around here, I should qualify that *most* women don\'t need it like men do. I mean, haven\'t we already discussed ad nauseum how men are more physical and women are more emotional about this? Anyway, all I\'m saying is, this girl is obviously not the type to just go sleeping with every Dick she meets, so it\'s entirely possible that she IS just waiting until it feels right for her. Absolutely nuthin\' wrong with that! Jon\'s patience will be rewarded too. If she feels it\'s the right time she\'ll be a whole lot more comfortable and uninhibited than if she\'s stressin\' it.

Whiffy

06-18-2003, 08:45 PM

1. Dude, she\'s talking about other guys to you...
2. You\'re not getting any.
3. If you keep this crap up, she\'s gonna end up moving on (sounds like that kind of a girl to me) and you\'re gonna be kicking yourself for not turning up the heat.

Long story short: Sounds like you\'re having fun. But the fact that she\'s bringing up other guys who she used to/will/isn\'t sure about dating to YOU, whoa that\'s not good. My advice: Better grab your balls and hit this chick while she\'s still a little warm for you. Sounds like things may go downhill from here. You better work it soon.

Andy

06-18-2003, 08:53 PM

No no ... stressing it sucks anyway .. but like you said, she seems to be helluva tease for Jon. I personally have absolutely no problem to wait in a more serious case, but then again the girls always found other ways to relieve my pain. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Dear Kittie, /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Have you always thought about the fact that the only ones that feel anything worth to mention during! sex are women ? I\'d say you need it at least like we do, but I think there\'s something like a trigger (I guess an awesome sexual experience might serve almost too well) that has to show \"her\" that she needs it like we do.

DaVinciKittie

06-18-2003, 09:05 PM

Well, by \"need\" I meant a physical release. Jon hasn\'t been killing his usual quota of kittens lately so her reluctance might be mistaken as teasing. That\'s all I meant by that (geez, I knew I wasn\'t gonna get away without more explanation /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif).

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Have you always thought about the fact that the only ones that feel anything worth to mention during! sex are women ?

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Hmm. So men don\'t feel anything worth mentioning? <need an \"eyebrows raised\" emoticon here. LOL!> Gee, I was under the impression that you did. I mean it\'s all you guys seem to think about, so... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Andy

06-18-2003, 09:10 PM

*rubbing* .. whatever that means exactly, is teasing /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

No, we don\'t feel that much during sex. (At least most men don\'t) It\'s just the situation that turns us on, riding the waves of passion with the woman of our desire. (In my special case it\'s the moans and groans of \"her\" that turn me on, because I love to give \"her\" a good time) The only time we actually feel something that\'s worth to be mentioned is during orgasm. Gettin\' my nipples teased for example is 1000 times more sensation than the penetration itself.

bundyburger

06-19-2003, 01:18 AM

I\'m with DaVinciKitty here again. My thoughts are that she has gotten this whole situation spot on the whole time. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I\'m also with Andy. My balls hurt reading about this too. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

pelotudo

06-19-2003, 03:57 AM

Ok, so yeah...hijackers :P

She text messaged me last night. I didn\'t get it till like 11:45, but she sent it like 10 mins after we had left each other saying how much she missed me.

Anyways, I think I\'m going to go against you guys one this one. Set up the \"I told you so\'s now though\", because that is probably going to be a mistake. IDK, but I don\'t feel I should get emotional about this and I don\'t think I have anything to worry about. Yeah, this is true that she saw this guy yesterday, and it\'s also true that this guy is going to come cut her grass; but I don\'t think that the fact I\'m not getting any (yet) would be a reason to make me feel jealous of these guys. She has only been w/ 2 guys, and hasn\'t fooled around with many others (coming from her, and I\'m assuming here she is being honest). She has given me all the hints that she wants to fool around and move on, but give it a little longer. With both of them it was about a month before they got involved; so I\'m going to give her the benefit of the doubt.

Either way, just to turn the tables a little bit here... Tonight, we\'re not going to get together. I asked her last night if she wanted to come to dinner w/ us (asking her if she wanted to tag along with me and some friends, not if she wanted to come to dinner w/ me alone), and she said she would see. She has to go to school about 6, and isn\'t sure how long she is going to stay. When I first asked her, she was like \"sure\", then later she was like...I might have to stay at school the whole time so I probably wont be able to go. So, I\'m just going to go to work, go work out afterward, then head out w/ my boss to grab a couple of games of pool and dinner. If she wants to see me, she can call me and drive up my way to do it... I\'m not going to show her that little [bad word] (and I could be wrong about this whole thing. She didn\'t really mean to mention the guy coming over to cut her grass, and it wouldn\'t have been brought up if Amy didn\'t say \"you sure you want to talk about this in front of him\"...that\'s when it came out the she had been crushing over him for a while) is going to bother me or that I\'m so insecure that I feel I need to get all worked up when a little competition shows its head. I\'m going to play it cool like I have been the past few days, go along with the flow, and not put too much effort in to it. Besides, we\'re just \"dating\" right now. There\'s no commitment yet, so she \"can\" see other guys if she wants. I\'m going to make it clear to her though that I\'m not one to share with other guys, and the second I find out about her \"dating\" someone else besides me then I\'m gone. Whether we\'re exclusive or not is irrevelent, I don\'t date around with other girls when I\'m with one, and I would expect the same. She\'s lucky to have someone like me who isn\'t actually a dick to her, likes the same stuff she does, and treats her like I do. And if she doesn\'t like the way I am, then I\'ll go find another girl that is just as beautiful and fun to be with, and will appreciate that.

I\'m out, work y0.

-Jon

Anyone want a pedistool? I have no use for it anymore. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

DaVinciKittie

06-19-2003, 12:40 PM

Thanks Bundy. It\'s nice to know I\'m not all alone out here on my island of reason. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif I think Jon\'s got it straight. Seems to me like he knows what\'s up and he\'s confidant enough to deal. Hell, Jon sounds like the kind of guy I\'d like to date, so power to ya bro. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

pelotudo

06-19-2003, 06:24 PM

I could arrange that actually. Send your application accompanied with pics and I will review all applicants and reply back shortly. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif :P

DaVinciKittie

06-19-2003, 10:49 PM

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pelotudo

06-21-2003, 07:51 PM

Pack up the \"I told you so\'s\" guys, they can get the hell outta here.

DVK, I love you and I want to have your babbies... Well, maybe after Jenna and I are through. Elana, there\'s some room in here for you too :P.

<--Just completed Awesome Night Pt. III, and it couldn\'t have gone off ANY better at ALL...but the wet and juicy...and I mean wet, details are going to have to wait till tomorrow. I\'m spent, I need rest and some L-Arginine...

-Jon

Anyone got a dry pair of panties, some Skyy Vodka, and a pack of Trojans I can borrow?

Elana

06-22-2003, 12:05 PM

What Oscar and Whiffy said in your \"Just Because\" gifts, suggestions, opinions thread?
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Elana

06-22-2003, 12:06 PM

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Elana, there\'s some room in here for you too :P.

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That\'s OK. No need for me to share my guys. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Sagacious1420

06-22-2003, 02:21 PM

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....riding the waves of passion with the woman of our desire...

it\'s the moans and groans of \"her\" that turn me on, because I love to give \"her\" a good time...

Gettin\' my nipples teased for example is 1000 times more sensation than the penetration itself.

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pelotudo

06-22-2003, 06:49 PM

Ok, I\'ll do a quick recap of the other day. I really don\'t feel like going over everything, and I\'m kind of confused right now and need sleep...but I\'ll give you guys the jist of it.

So I went and got her some flowers Saturday morning. Her fav, White Lillies and Orange Gerber Daisies. She called me when she got on break, and I went to see her. She was really depressed b/c she just found out that her grandmother (really close to her) is in the hospital w/ a collapsed lung. So I took them to her, and they cheered her up a lot. I stayed w/ her on her break, then met up with her later on.

So yeah, the night went awesome. We stayed over at Amy\'s house. Ate dinner there, and laid down and talked for a while about a bunch of stuff. We went out w/ her rents and watched TV w/ them for a while, then went in to the den to watch TV by ourselves. Before heading in there we went out to my car and grabbed some Skyy Citrus Vodka that I picked up earlier in the day. A few minutes later, and we were both feeling pretty loose.

After about 30 mins of torturous grinding and hands in certain places, and we had pretty much decided that something was going to happen. Amy came knocking on the door a couple seconds later, and came in to \"talk\" to us. Tim was passed out in her room, and she was bored. The second she walked in she knew she had been interrupting something, and volunteered to watch the door for us to make sure her parents or anyone else wouldn\'t bother us.

Long story short, after about 10 more mins of teasing her, the pants came off... She had given me a back massage earlier in the day, and I told her I would pay her back, and I did. I stayed fully clothed, and made sure she was happy... and man alive it was nice. Out of the 4 or so other girls I have been with, she tasted and performed the NICEST. I teased around kissing her, went down on her for about 5 or so minutes, and she started shaking and bucking. She grabbed the back of my head/hair and pulled me up to her. We made out a little more, then just to make sure the first time wasn\'t a fluke; and to make sure she was satisified for the night, I worked my way back down... Only to find her even wetter than before, and I started letting my tongue and ring do some more work. In making sure she wasn\'t disappointed, I found a steady pace and worked until she put a pillow over her face screaming and telling me to put it in her just once.

After another minute or so of licking, and a couple more on top of her w/ her leaving marks on my back w/ her nails, and I respectfully declined her begging and made her wait. She grabbed me and tried to change my mind, but I told her she was going to have to wait a little longer before it happens. She got dressed back up, and a few minutes later her mom called signalling her departure.

Now here....HERE, is the shocker. I was walking her back out to her car. We stop, she opens her door, turns to look me right in the eyes, and tells me she\'s falling for me. I didn\'t know what to say or do. I\'ve never been told this before, as I\'ve never affected anyone, and she tells me this. I told her I thought she wasn\'t ready for a commitment or anything serious, and she said she knows...but it\'s different now. I wasn\'t sure whether to take her seriously or not, because we had been drinking, and I didn\'t want her to say that last night and then be like today that it was b/c she had been... So IDK.

I talked to Amy about it after she had left, and she says that Jenna had told her too; and that she really likes me and was scared and didn\'t want to get hurt.

I stay and talk to Amy for a few minutes, then head home. Today, I met up w/ Jenna at Amy\'s house after work, and we go lay down to talk again. I know I should have said something different last night, but I really didn\'t know what to say. I am feeling the same way, or at least I think I am, but I\'m scared b/c my last GF I fell for like the first week we were going out and I got hurt. So we lay down, and she tells me she\'s feeling really vulernable right now, and that she is scared to get hurt and I\'m still trying to think of something to say...but have nothing. We watched TV for a little bit, but her mom called unexpectedly and she had to leave right away.

So IDK, I\'ll see her tomorrow after school; and I want to tell her how I feel, and know if I don\'t then she is going to feel even more insecure and vunerable, but IDK. ..

That\'s it, that\'s all of it. IDK, I\'m tired and need to figure things out. Any advice from you guys is always appreciated...

-Jon

Whiffy

06-22-2003, 07:53 PM

Jon, you need us no more. Congrats.

(But you shoulda stuck it in her... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif)

Andy

06-22-2003, 11:46 PM

Jon, just tell her that you can\'t say for sure where this is heading at, but the last thing in the world you\'re up to is too hurt her (hope that\'s right). Tell her that you need some more time, because you really want to know what you are doin\'. The fact that she started to talk about her feelings is kinda green light, no, a reason to expose some of your feelings. Just tell her the way it is and add that that is the cause that you hadn\'t slept with her already. Tell her that you\'ve been dying to have sex with her aso aso.

Elana

06-23-2003, 03:04 AM

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(But you shoulda stuck it in her... )

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Whiffy.....we need to hang. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

pelotudo

06-23-2003, 03:37 AM

Thanks guys, Elana..Andy..Whif..DVK, all of you.

She thanked me afterwards for not giving in to her. Up until this point it was her holding back, and now that I really had a chance to do it I respected her and didn\'t do it, and I know she appreciates that. I\'m pretty much sure it\'s going to happen this Friday night. It\'ll be the one month, and we\'re all planning on going out together (Tim, Amy, Jenna and I) then breaking off; so we\'ll see what happens. I\'ll make sure to keep the L-S family updated :P.

-Jon

CptKipling

06-23-2003, 09:32 AM

Whoa i cant believe i misses this thread! Well done Jon!

bundyburger

06-23-2003, 03:23 PM

Jon, well done. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

She\'s told you she\'s scared of getting hurt.
You\'ve told us you\'re scared of getting hurt.

If I could give one tip at this moment it\'s:
\"Keep the messages to her positive.\"

For example, DON\'T tell her things like:
\"I\'m not sure about you. I want to be sure first\".( of course you know that!)

Stick to messages like:
\"I\'m trying to hold myself back from falling too hard for you too quick. And it\'s hard to control!.\"
Which is the truth, isn\'t it!? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif (Not that EXACT sentence. It sounds kind of desperate. lol But you get what I mean I\'m sure.)

...from my own experiences. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

DaVinciKittie

06-23-2003, 11:17 PM

Congrats Jon! Good to see you kept your head and put her first (no comments from the peanut gallery please)- she noticed. First I wanted to say, unless you know her REALLY well and have a good level of trust built up, it is *NEVER* a good idea to tell a woman what she wants or needs or what\'s \"good for her\" (like you told her that she wasn\'t ready for a relationship). If she\'s telling you how vulnerable she feels then she\'s wanting reassurance. It doesn\'t have to be verbal assurance- in fact sometimes non-verbal assurance is more effective. When she gets like that, pull her to you, hug her tenderly or hard (depending on the moment), kiss her hair, say things assuring her that you would never intentionally hurt her and this is new for you too and you\'ll get through it together, etc. I know that sounds mushy, but it looks to me like you\'ve got a high maintenence girl on your hands (hey- nothing wrong with that! I\'m somewhat high maintenence myself), so the more comfortable and safe you make her feel, the more she\'s going to open up to you. You don\'t have to wait until she \"asks\" for reassurance, just do it on a normal basis with your body language... take her hand while you\'re walking together, when you have to walk single file to get through a tight spot let her walk in front of you and place your hand on the small of her back (lightly, not possessively), snuggle with her without her having to initiate it- that sort of thing. Actions are so much more powerful than words. Anyway, way to go dude. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Keep us posted... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif