Female sense of scent .. [Archive] - Love-Scent Pheromones Forum

Andy

06-09-2003, 07:06 PM

I experienced something really strange t\'day. I am having a female friend that\'s quite direct, in fact she\'s the most upright and direct person I know. I am always getting deep insights in the female nature because of her. It\'s not easy to be with her, but I like it .. however ...

We\'ve been in the netherlands t\'day, because we wanted to enjoy the nice mild summer day at the beach. I don\'t seem to have something like the typical conversion that creates BO at all. Hence I am always smelling clean, though I develope the typical sun-skin smell over time while beeing at the beach. We\'ve been together all day long, fooled around at the beach aso. On the way back to the car she constantly complained about people that aren\'t able to use a deodorant. I absolutely smelled nothing but she seemed to sense every slight hint of BO. I never thought females would be that sensitive though I knew that they are more sensitive to smell than we guys are. She was even able to smell it 8 feet away while I haven\'t been able to smell it around 2 feet away. (She was walking on the right side of the path and I passed really close to the other group)

Really interesting ...

franki

06-10-2003, 12:23 AM

It was a hint for you, Andy /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Andy

06-10-2003, 12:29 AM

What kinda hint do you mean ? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ah lol ... now I see what you mean .... she complained about specific people passing by. Not people in general /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

franki

06-10-2003, 12:33 AM

I think she means YOU too.

And you say you understand women? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Andy

06-10-2003, 12:34 AM

Hmm .. she digged her face into the side of my chest and said that this! would be better ... I don\'t think you are right on this one ;P. Trust me ... she\'d tell me directly if I ever happen to carry a BO cloud around with me ...

Nope, I don\'t understand women and I am not tryin\' to anymore. It\'s like tryin\' to understand the infinity of the universe, you can never understand and you can do absolutely nothing about it.

franki

06-10-2003, 12:35 AM

Hmmm, maybe you are right then. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Andy

06-10-2003, 12:38 AM

What I actually wanted to know ... Is it just me (and her) or is the nose of the average female really that superior to the one of the average male?

franki

06-10-2003, 12:43 AM

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What I actually wanted to know ... Is it just me (and her) or is the nose of the average female really that superior to the one of the average male?

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Oh, sorry for cluttering up your thread up then. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I am not a scientist, but I think it is safe to say the average female nose is superior (when it comes to body smells at least).

Andy

06-10-2003, 12:45 AM

I knew that it is somewhat better, but I never expected such a difference. I smelled absolutely nothing and she almost couldn\'t stand it ... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Sagacious1420

06-10-2003, 12:54 AM

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Nope, I don\'t understand women and I am not tryin\' to anymore. It\'s like tryin\' to understand the infinity of the universe, you can never understand and you can do absolutely nothing about it.

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What is the sound of one hand clapping? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Charisma

06-10-2003, 01:11 AM

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What I actually wanted to know ... Is it just me (and her) or is the nose of the average female really that superior to the one of the average male?

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I\'ve read that female hearing is better than that of men. I won\'t be suprised if it turns out that women smell better too. They are more sensitive (Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French sensitif, from Medieval Latin sensitivus, probably alteration of sensativus, from sensatus sensate). I think it has to do with the role women performed in the stone age. Maybe DST or JVK can shed some light?

Andy

06-10-2003, 01:13 AM

I heared that males can hear better than women, but women pay closer attention to what they hear in case it\'s a kind of communication.

Sagacious1420

06-10-2003, 01:41 AM

After many years exploring the realm of human perception as an \"investigative psychologist\" (the science of gustation & olfaction, mainly), over 15 yrs. as a professional culinarial (the art & science of gustation and olfaction), and several yrs. as a professional sommelier (OK, mainly olfaction), I feel confident in saying that it is believed that only 25% of the total population are considered \"super-tasters\". This is a misnomer, because we\'re really dealing w/ olfaction. We can Sense over 10,000 odorants, but are limited to 5 basic taste sensations: Sweet, sour, salty, bitter and Umami (roughly meaning savory; trasliteration: something yummy\'s on the way[to the stomach, that is]). So, only about 25% are super-tasters w/ an extremely sensitive ability to smell (detect odorants). Yeah, so what? Right? Well, 80 % of this super-taster population are believed to be women. BTW, 25% of the population are also considered \"non-tasters,\" i.e. very poor ability to detect odorants.
Hope that helps. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

*Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow*

Charisma

06-10-2003, 01:58 AM

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I heared that males can hear better than women, but women pay closer attention to what they hear in case it\'s a kind of communication.

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Hahaha,

What\'s the most common cause of hearing loss amongst men? Wife saying she wants to talk to him.

\"I was listening to you. It\'s just that I have things on my mind.\" Really means.... \"I was wondering if that red-head over there is wearing a bra.\"

Charisma

06-10-2003, 02:03 AM

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After many years exploring the realm of human perception as an \"investigative psycologist\" (the science of gustation & olfaction, mainly), over 15 yrs. as a professional culinarial (the art & science of gustation and olfaction), and several yrs. as a professional sommelier (OK, mainly olfaction), I feel confident in saying that it is believed that only 25% of the total population are considered \"super-tasters\". This is a misnomer, because we\'re really dealing w/ olfaction. We can Sense over 10,000 odorants, but are limited to 5 basic taste sensations: Sweet, sour, salty, bitter and Umami (roughly meaning savory; trasliteration: something yummy\'s on the way[to the stomach, that is]). So, only about 25% are super-tasters w/ an extremely sensitive ability to smell (detect odorants). Yeah, so what? Right? Well, 80 % of this super-taster population are believed to be women. BTW, 25% of the population are also considered \"non-tasters,\" i.e. very poor ability to detect odorants.
Hope that helps. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

*Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow*

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Excellent post Sagacious1420!

Question: do the 5 basic taste sensations make it possible to generate thousands of different tastes? I mean - the combination of the 5 make the whole taste sensation.

Sagacious1420

06-10-2003, 02:48 AM

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After many years exploring the realm of human perception as an \"investigative psycologist\" (the science of gustation & olfaction, mainly), over 15 yrs. as a professional culinarial (the art & science of gustation and olfaction), and several yrs. as a professional sommelier (OK, mainly olfaction), I feel confident in saying that it is believed that only 25% of the total population are considered \"super-tasters\". This is a misnomer, because we\'re really dealing w/ olfaction. We can Sense over 10,000 odorants, but are limited to 5 basic taste sensations: Sweet, sour, salty, bitter and Umami (roughly meaning savory; trasliteration: something yummy\'s on the way[to the stomach, that is]). So, only about 25% are super-tasters w/ an extremely sensitive ability to smell (detect odorants). Yeah, so what? Right? Well, 80 % of this super-taster population are believed to be women. BTW, 25% of the population are also considered \"non-tasters,\" i.e. very poor ability to detect odorants.
Hope that helps. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

*Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow*

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Excellent post Sagacious1420!

Question: do the 5 basic taste sensations make it possible to generate thousands of different tastes? I mean - the combination of the 5 make the whole taste sensation.

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Personaly, I think there is an interplay between the two, but I don\'t know of any recent data that would support this. But, keep in mind the nose is on the order of about 10,000 sensations, the tongue has only 5 (although I belive tactile senasation should be included as the 6th taste sensation...this is especially true in the culinary world, texture is *so* important). Anyway, imagine that you smell a glass of red wine and you detect a general \"dark fleshed berry\" note in there, but can\'t quite pin it down. You take a sip and based on tactile information (about 90% of what we misidentify as taste buds) and the sensation of acidity and/or sweetness (keep in mind this can come from glyserol content and not \"sugar\" content, because glyserol is commonly described as a \"sweet\" taste sensation) you might describe the *perception* as black raspberry, blackberry, mulberry, or blueberry. And different ppl experiencing the same *sensations* can have different *perceptions*, quite often based on prior experience. I mean, how can you know what a snozberry is unless you\'ve had prior experience (personal or a priori) w/ a snozberry. *That one\'s for you DVK - the music maker and dreamer of dreams* /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Sensation (i.e. the reaction of sense receptors) and Perception (i.e. the higher brains interpretation of this information) can be very different. Does this make sense (no pun intended)?
Maybe this will help...Smell involves the nose, Taste involves the tongue, Flavor involves the combined interpretation, by the brain (i.e., perception), of both sources of stimuli.

DaVinciKittie

06-10-2003, 03:09 AM

A snozberry?! Whoever heard of a *SNOZBERRY*?!?! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

In the interest of keeping this post on-topic, I\'ll comment that if the women on this forum are any indication, we *do* seem to be more sensitive to smell. We\'ve been discussing that in relation to TE recently on the women\'s forum- minus me, there seems to be a redhead consensus that it reeks.

bundyburger

06-10-2003, 03:18 AM

I have no doubt. Not even the smallest iota. Women have an amazing sense of smell compared to us men. I\'m reminded of it almost everyday. A female will comment on something that stinks or whatever and all the males in the room are totally clueless.

...not so much that females have a better sense of smell. More like all us males have a pathetic sense of smell. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Charisma

06-10-2003, 03:43 AM

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I have no doubt. Not even the smallest iota. Women have an amazing sense of smell compared to us men. I\'m reminded of it almost everyday. A female will comment on something that stinks or whatever and all the males in the room are totally clueless.

...not so much that females have a better sense of smell. More like all us males have a pathetic sense of smell. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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According to the television commericials of sanitary towels/napkins it\'s because women worry all day long whether or not they smell funny /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

*snif snif* \"What\'s this I smell? Oh it\'s what\'s-her-name having her period.\" Why on earth do they bother? Men won\'t smell it and if they do they think she\'s horny /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

DrSmellThis

06-10-2003, 03:51 AM

I think one can develop their sense of smell. Most of the greatest perfumers and \"noses\" are men.

Charisma

06-10-2003, 04:00 AM

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I think one can develop their sense of smell. Most of the greatest perfumers and \"noses\" are men.

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Any tips where to start DST? Something like a wine course (in my neighbourhood there are quite a few).

I\'ve also read that depression will reduce the sense of smell.

bundyburger

06-10-2003, 04:35 AM

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Most of the greatest perfumers and \"noses\" are men.

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It\'s that fact that intrigues me.

I remember after some nose hair trimming once my sense of smell was much much better. Next day it was normal again.
Is it a \"mental block\" conditioning ...ummm... thingy. lol Do us males train ourselves to ignore a scent really well for some reason. Or is it, as said above, more a matter of females always worrying about their own scent that they stay much more switched on and learned (?) of the world of scents. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

**DONOTDELETE**

06-10-2003, 04:57 AM

I don\'t think it\'s that complicated. Women just have more sensitive noses. That women are underrepresented in the culinary/perfumery arts could have more to do with politics than skill.

Sagacious1420

06-10-2003, 06:37 AM

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I think one can develop their sense of smell. Most of the greatest perfumers and \"noses\" are men.

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Yes, I believe that one can develop their sense of smell up to the point that there hardware functions effectively. Different ppl (not just gender specific) have inherently different physical abilites regarding olfactory thresholds. I am currently writing a book on the dymnamic relationship between food and wine. I touch upon the idea that it is impossible to recognize an aroma of which one has no prior experience. A snozberry? Who ever heard of a snozberry? That kinda sums it up pretty well in a fun sorta way. Thanks Willie Wonka. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
As far as the \"best noses\" being men, I can tell you from the inside of the wine biz that it is very heavily male dominated. I have conducted tastings and classes with a few thousand (?) ppl over the past few years and my experience supports the scientific notion that there are a higher proportion of sensitive female palates, as opposed to men. The most highly sought after and most highly paid consulting winemakers here in Napa Valley are women. They are the ones making those ridiculously priced cult wines. The greatest vintage ever produced by Chateau Latour, from Bordeaux, was produced entirley by women and the only one ever produced by women. It has recieved a perfect score every time it has been tasted since the vintage was released on up to date. I can tell you from my personal experience that it is an amazing wine, even today. Ya gotta sit down for this one.
As far as perfumery....? Not my area. Anyone?

Andy

06-10-2003, 06:56 AM

@Charisma

The taste is only needed to safe us from poisoning ourselves with poisonous/rotten food. What we call \"taste\" is actually a composition of the taste and the smell of our food. Scent particles make their way up the connection tunnel between the throat and the smell system. There\'s a strong emphasis on the smell component and therefore we could rather say this food smells good while meaning tastes good.

**DONOTDELETE**

06-10-2003, 09:39 AM

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I have no doubt. Not even the smallest iota. Women have an amazing sense of smell compared to us men. I\'m reminded of it almost everyday. A female will comment on something that stinks or whatever and all the males in the room are totally clueless.

...not so much that females have a better sense of smell. More like all us males have a pathetic sense of smell. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Maybe there are survival benefits, such as being able to smell a sabre tooth tiger if you\'re downwind from one. Or an interloper\'s scent on your husband\'s clothes. You know, that sort of thing. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Whitehall

06-10-2003, 09:59 AM

Walk into a high end audio shop and the men there will out-number the women (other than drag-along wives) 20:1.

Men really can distinguish the fine points of sound reproduction better than women (on a statistical basis).

Charisma

06-10-2003, 10:41 AM

DaVinciKittie

06-10-2003, 11:01 AM

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Walk into a high end audio shop and the men there will out-number the women (other than drag-along wives) 20:1.

Men really can distinguish the fine points of sound reproduction better than women (on a statistical basis).

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I\'d be interested in seeing some of these statistics, and how they were actually forumlated. Can you give a reference? IMHO, men flock to audio shops to check out the toys. It\'s a matter of pride- who has the best system, whose car has the snazziest body kit or ground effects, etc. In my experience, those guys in the audio shop aren\'t scoping out new hardware in the interests of achieving the perfect balance of highs, mids, and lows, they\'re more interested in finding the system that\'ll rattle their neighbors windows. Apparently you can never have too much base. Well, *this* woman\'s hearing is definitely more sensitive than that.

I didn\'t say this to start another men vs. women debate. I just don\'t think your example here is applicable. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Whitehall

06-10-2003, 04:09 PM

Pickup a copy of Stereophile and see if there are any women involved. I\'m not talking boom boxes but high end audio. It\'s telling the difference between tubes and transistors. At an even higher end, its pentodes versus triodes or digital vs. analogue or sweet spot versus reverberation decay times. Sure, love of gadgetry is a factor but lot\'s of guys, and middle age guys in particular, can really get into the subtlties and nuances of quality sound reproduction.

In the evolutionary sense, its a skill for hunters versus vision as a skill for gatherers. A hunter needs to hear the crackling of a twig or the direction of a pig grunt. A gatherer needs to discriminate between a ripe berry and an almost ripe one. Guys can recognize 8 colors while women can see 8 million (or more.)

The testing for hearing is, in my opinion, in a crude state of development. Young women can excell in limited testing but there is a richness and complexity to sound that is difficult to quantify today.

Personally, I\'m half blind, as anyone can tell by looking at my female companions over the years, but I can really get into sound of a woman\'s voice.

Sagacious1420

06-10-2003, 05:43 PM

HI WH-
Really, 8 colors in men vs. 8 million in women. Not questioning you, just a fascinating topic for me. I\'d love it if you could direct me to some resources that I could check out for myself, if I ever have the spare time, that is. PM if you have some links for me.
I thought your comments about gender roles w/in the clan and their relation to somewhat gender specific physiological evolution, were quite apropos. I have maintained for years that the reason bitter taste receptors are focused at the back of the tongue was an evolutionary defense mechanism. Anthropologically speaking, as nomadic peoples, humans followed the migration of the animals they depended upon for meat. It would not be uncommon to encounter a berry, for example, that may appear familiar to ones previously ingested w/out any adverse affects. However, if it turned out to be poisonous, there was still a chance to spit the damn thing out before you swallowed it and killed youself. Poisonous plants, fruit in particular, share a common characteristic; they are bitter and astringent. Having worked in the wine world for awhile, I am amused that we love red wine so much. They are bitter and astringent and counterevolutionary, really. LOL We *should* have an aversion to red wine, because of this very characteristic. This should be especially true for women, since they seem to be more senative to bitter tastes. Go figure. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I think I tend to agree w/ you about auditory acuity w/ regards to the hunter\'s role. However, I wouldn\'t discount the role of sight and smell, as well. My grandfather was a half-breed Cherokee and a phenominal hunter. He could identify animals by smell long before they were w/in view. He could accurately ID the type of animal, it\'s approximate distance and direction in which it was travelling. It was very uncanny. I have seen him smell out a deer lying in a deep thicket and even be able to see well enough through the dense cover to see the animal that no one else could spot. Perhaps this is where I get my keen sense of smell from; it kinda makes sense.

bundyburger

06-10-2003, 07:31 PM

DaVinciPussy ( /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif )

Take note of what Whitehall says there. \"Sure, love of gadgetry is a factor but lot\'s of guys, and middle age guys in particular, can really get into the subtlties and nuances of quality sound reproduction.\"

Same with cars, guys who upgrade their car actually enjoy the subtle difference it makes to the handling and feel of car. \"A better roller coaster ride.\" ...and some guys enjoy rubbing that fact in their friends\' faces, but it\'s not the driving force here. I LOVE the feel of driving a car with brakes you can \'feel\', tyres that \'hold\', a motor that pushes me back in my seat. A great soundig exhaust note that \'sounds torquey\'.

Of course, there are the tossers out there who buy a great car and accessories to make up for their small d___ /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I guess the argument I\'m making to you is that the guys that do these things only to impress other people are rare. The majority of guys get great pleasure in the Hi-Fi listening, powerful but smooth riding car, the great looking body work that pleases his OWN eye ....or the woodcraft he worked on in his back shed and the new router and circlular saw that made his job more pleasurable, with less hassle. <grunt> <grunt> <grunt> <grunt> /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Watcher

06-10-2003, 07:36 PM

The tossers who have small dicks who buy souped up cars just do it to get female attention as their small dicks make it impossible othewise (ok maybe fat chicks but that is different)
A car that sounds torquey is great, you are right minor upgrades can make all the difference.
Woodwork never tried it but have heard some old machines have more grunt than the newer ones.

**DONOTDELETE**

06-10-2003, 09:30 PM

It\'s certainly possible to train your senses - there\'s no question it\'s possible to train your ear, any musician can attest to that, I think - and I could not smell phermones before I started using them. When people would talk about the smell of a partner\'s breath changing when they entered arousal state, I\'d think, hmmm, I\'ve never ever noticed that ... I used to not be able to smell anything in PCC but the cover scent.

It\'s a matter of where you choose to focus your attention.

DrSmellThis

06-10-2003, 11:16 PM

There are different aspects to each sense, and one\'s interests and \"training\" make a much bigger difference than inborn gifts for most of us. It\'s similar to questions about which sex is smarter. So it\'s tricky to generalize. There are examples for both sides on every sense. Music is tricky because there is so much to hear.

I have a sensitive nose, compared to most women, but know women with a lower threshhold for certain scents than me. Women might have required a lower smell threshhold in order to detect diseases on her children and potential mates; as well as thrive in intimate home settings. Threshhold is only one kind of \"sensitivity\", that to amplitude, the most simlistic aspect of sensory input. Threshhold has a lot to to with \"empty sensory space\" to compare incoming sensory data to, as well as the power of the instrument to detect something that\'s there. Sit in silence and you\'ll listen better. Breathe pure air and you\'ll smell more. Sometimes my threshhold sucks because I\'ve been making perfume all day. I can distinguish smells but it takes a high level. That\'s when I get in trouble for stinking up a room - I don\'t realize I smell like a perfume factory. In fact, yesterday a short order cook wrote, \"hippie!\" in mustard on my plate next to the hamburger for that very reason. After I\'ve had a sauna, fresh air, and a shower I have a very sensitive nose, even compared to normal. Men stink badly compared to women; so we probably have a high smell-recognition threshhold just to keep from puking all our food up.

Whitehall

06-11-2003, 08:59 AM

Thresholds are easiest to measure but that\'s only a small part of the story. What\'s amazed me with audio is the mental processing of sound input. The sense organs only produce raw signal but our brains can do an immense amount of processing before the signal is perceived by our consciousness.

Training and attention definitely makes a difference - I\'ve seen it in learning to listen to high end audio and in photography and with pheromones/perfumes.

If a guy would like to start seeing the 8 million+ colors that a woman sees, all he has to do is start an estrogen augmentation program. Menopausal women who start hormone replacement therapy often note this effect.

Conversely, the ability to abstractly reason in three dimensions is directly related to testosterone levels. I use this fact to stimulate greater efforts by my fellow male engineers to understand and review our 3-D isometric drawings. They can be difficult to intepret but when they complain I bring out the \"Testosterone is directly related...\" argument. They usually stop complaining and focus REALLY hard!

CptKipling

06-11-2003, 02:51 PM

Surely hunters need good vision aswell.

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Guys can recognize 8 colors while women can see 8 million (or more.)

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I dont see how that is true, where is that from?

Whitehall

06-11-2003, 03:02 PM

OK, dude, you doubt?

Then answer me this: what\'s the difference between mauve, puce, lillac, and lavender? Or. cream, beige, ivory, buff, and off-white?

You think GUYS made those names up?

The actual numbers (8 vs. 8 million) where order of magnitude estimates only.

Mtnjim

06-11-2003, 03:08 PM

\"Then answer me this: what\'s the difference between mauve, puce, lillac, and lavender? Or. cream, beige, ivory, buff, and off-white?\"

I Know, I Know--but then again I was an atr major.

By the way, you forgot \"egg shell\"

Watcher

06-11-2003, 03:32 PM

Human evolution is and always has been the goal to be more sexually attractive to the opposite sex in the next generation.
Those that have the best pheromones have an easier time in life due to poeple reacting more favourably to them allround they get more opporutities and conversley usually end up with more education and better partners, for women its mostly been about being the most attractive in order to offer a reproductive opporutiniy to the best male. We all know the theroies and anything that a guy can do to raise their attractiveness (it isnt all pheromones) the better ie being loud, making the moves better (fast seduction) being smarter than the rest - attracting women that way. Its all focused towards evolution, the next step might be better looking but having a brilliant brain as the human race enters a new technological era. Or it might just be having access to synthetic pheromones to get ahead that way. ANother thing with people is we are so multifaceted there are infinite ways to go about it ?

Any comments, this is just a general raving thread.

CptKipling

06-12-2003, 06:44 AM

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OK, dude, you doubt?

Then answer me this: what\'s the difference between mauve, puce, lillac, and lavender? Or. cream, beige, ivory, buff, and off-white?

You think GUYS made those names up?

The actual numbers (8 vs. 8 million) where order of magnitude estimates only.

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Well actually i can tell the difference, hence why i questioned what you said. Maybe it\'s unusual, but i dont know.

CK <--------- Likes to think he is an artist /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

**DONOTDELETE**

06-12-2003, 07:08 AM

My boss knows color names, but he\'s been married forever and has repainted many a wall that was just too taupe and needed to be a shade more toward ecru.

I think guys can tell the difference between shades of colors, they just don\'t know color names. It\'s more a matter of vocabulary than anything else. Taupe, mauve, puce, fuscia, chartreuse, ecru, etc. are not words you read or hear often.

You had to have had the really BIG box of Crayolas and spent many an hour coloring with your girlfriends. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Andy

06-12-2003, 07:13 AM

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Taupe, mauve, puce, fuscia, chartreuse, ecru, etc. are not words you read or hear often.

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Have you ever been kidnapped by aliens ? Taupe puce ecru ecru, fuscia mauve puce ! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Charisma

06-12-2003, 08:22 AM

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I think guys can tell the difference between shades of colors, they just don\'t know color names. It\'s more a matter of vocabulary than anything else. Taupe, mauve, puce, fuscia, chartreuse, ecru, etc. are not words you read or hear often.

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Except when you\'re working in the fashion industry /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Andy

06-12-2003, 08:33 AM

For guys it\'s either \"blue\" or \"r:42 g:14 b:204\" ... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Elana

06-12-2003, 09:39 AM

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\"r:42 g:14 b:204\" ...

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What does that mean? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Mtnjim

06-12-2003, 10:21 AM

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\"r:42 g:14 b:204\" ...

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What does that mean?

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Levels of \"Red\", \"Green\" and \"Blue\" (RGB) that make up a color. Ya\' gotta be a real nerd to get it.

Andy

06-12-2003, 10:50 AM

What I wanted to say is that most men prefer to keep things simple or exact. We don\'t care if it\'s \"lipsafter5minutesinicecoldwaterblue\" or \"cheekafterslapfromaguythat\'sabletopump50kilored\". It\'s blue .. or red ... maybe it\'s light or dark+color, but nothing more, because it\'s a really unscientific way to classify colors. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DaVinciKittie

06-12-2003, 11:16 AM

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\"r:42 g:14 b:204\" ...

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What does that mean?

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Levels of \"Red\", \"Green\" and \"Blue\" (RGB) that make up a color. Ya\' gotta be a real nerd to get it.

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Uh-oh. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif Um, well, then in that case... I didn\'t get it, *really*! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Charisma

06-12-2003, 11:18 AM

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Levels of \"Red\", \"Green\" and \"Blue\" (RGB) that make up a color.

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These are the primary colors of light. There is, however, another color system called subtractive, commonly referred to as CMYK. The primary colors of the subtractive system are cyan (C), magenta (M) and yellow (Y) (the same colors that are the secondary colors of the RGB system). The letter \"K\" in CMYK stands for black. The subtractive color process is based on light reflected from an object and passed through pigments or dyes that absorb certain wavelengths, allowing others to be reflected. Unlike the additive system (RGB), which begins with black and adds color, the subtractive system begins with white and subtracts color. CMYK is commonly used in printing as most print begins with a white page that reflects white (RGB) light.

Yep: Ya\' gotta be a real nerd to get it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Levels of \"Red\", \"Green\" and \"Blue\" (RGB) that make up a color. Ya\' gotta be a real nerd to get it.

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What about: \"Ya\' gotta be a real nerd NOT to get it.\" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif