Switch 'em up

[xxxPantero]

Hm.......

Just read a post from B2C.

So far, this AE/NPA hasn\'t done much for me. I am thinking about switching the AE for APC & PCC. That way I could make JB#1 and add a little bit of couplins (like he did for the masseuse). As some of you may know, or not know, I am a wanna-be player. I have a girlfriend. I date/have sex with other women/girls. I am trying to either a) improve the sex life between me and her, b) get more sex from other girls, or c) both.

I am not a \"hot\" guy, but I am working on that... I am very superficial.
Which reminds me, does anyone know of a good MEN\'S Hair Stylist (not a barber, a stylist) in South Florida? I haven\'t found a decent haircut yet. Although when I get these \"Dumbo\" ears of mine tucked back, I might shave my head. I look like a handsome thug when I cover my hair, although you\'d never think that I could look like a thug, but you\'d be surprised... not even close friends recognized me at first, and this was up close.

Plus, I\'m working out, cycling creatine, ZMA, protein shakes (a few females have mentioned that I would look so much better with some weight on me)
I would also like to point out that I don\'t use Speed Seduction, because I don\'t believe it will work for me. I don\'t really follow \"one master book\" but I get information on how to deal with women from many books and of course, WOMEN (i am lucky to know at least a few sane women who confirm things that most women don\'t. some of the sane women happen to be on this board. unfortunately, so are the loonys! guess which one u are)

Here is a picture of me: (people rate me at about a 6.5... I\'m looking to improve that). Warning, it\'s a very large file, from a digital camera (SORRY!)
http://www.angelfire.com/realm/et/pics/DSC00208.JPG (\"http://www.angelfire.com/realm/et/pics/DSC00208.JPG\")
Small Face Pic http://www.angelfire.com/realm/et/pics/me.jpg (\"http://www.angelfire.com/realm/et/pics/me.jpg\")
Please give your opinions and suggestions (like, \"lift weights\" or \"you\'re cute the way you are\" or \"wear a bag, freak\").

Here is a picture of my girlfriend:
http://www.angelfire.com/realm/et/pics/debbie2.jpg (\"http://www.angelfire.com/realm/et/pics/debbie2.jpg\")

Here is a picture of my girlfriend having an orgasm while she masturbated. The timing was perfect. This one is entitled \"Lust\". Ahh... memories of when times were simpler and body parts worked without complications... *sigh*
http://www.angelfire.com/realm/et/pics/debprofile5b.jpg (\"http://www.angelfire.com/realm/et/pics/debprofile5b.jpg\")

... For those of you who recognize me or my girlfriend, please PM me with your address and the times when u normally sleep. Thanks.

Oh, and don\'t forget to laugh at my signature.

[franki]

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Please give your opinions and suggestions (like, \"lift weights\" or \"you\'re cute the way you are\" or \"wear a bag, freak\").

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Please shave your armpits!

Your gf is cute, btw. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[xxxPantero]

thanks franki, i\'ve been thinking about that...

the fact is that i love smelling my own musk. my girlfriend too. we\'re very much into each other\'s smells.

thanks, i will try it.

anyone else with some helpful comments?

[DaVinciKittie]

Hey, there cutie. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Seriously. I think you\'re pretty cute. Hot? Well not to me, but that\'s the point, isn\'t it? No need to dredge up the same old argument there. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif You\'re getting your ears pinned? That will definitely help (not that they\'re that bad now). A little bulk can\'t hurt, especially since it looks like you have the wiry-type frame. Try some different hairstyles (I know you\'re looking for a stylist, so when you find one, get him/her to give you a cut that is versatile- one you can actually make into several different styles yourself), like the flatiron look that\'s so popular right now, or buzz it (not shaved- just a little hair). I think that might be sexy on you. I\'m not a big fan of those little chin hair things you guys seem to be so fond of. I think you\'d look good with either no facial hair or more- like a 5\'oclock shadow scruffy look (not a full beard by any stretch). How tall are you or did I just miss that? Anyway, HTH /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Steveo]

yea i agree wif franki she is cute.
im from NZ think im the only one on this site.
are u indian ? u look like one of my mates.

[xxxPantero]

DaVinciKittie

I appreciate two things:

1) your suggestions
2) your tact

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Man, I get the \"cute\" thing a lot. Is this bad or good? Every female, and one gay boss, say to me \"You\'re too cute\" or \"I can forgive you because you\'re cute\" or \"You\'re awfully cute for not being here\" (I was supposed to leave at 2, I told the lady I am not here, meaning not on the clock)

It\'s not my actions, because I don\'t do anything cute. I do my job, and I chat with everyone. I poke fun occasionally, but we have a good laugh out of it. But while I enjoy the \"cuteness\" I don\'t think girls want to - to put it bluntly - be f*cked by a CUTE guy. They (I assume, correct me if I\'m wrong) want to get f*cked or f*ck a HOT guy. CUTE is for emasculated marriages like \"Everybody Loves Raymond\" - his life is my nightmare, by the way, seriously. HANDSOME, SEXY, HOT is how I want to be described. We live in the 21st century, so there has to be one way or another where I can acheive the look I want.

I mean, I\'m not where I want to be, looks wise, but I\'ve come a long way from:
http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/sfpcbass/images/29.jpg (\"http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/sfpcbass/images/29.jpg\")

PREPARE TO BE HORRIFIED!!!

[Alquimista]

xxxPantero,
In order to eliminate your dumb ears, I suggest you to let your hair grow a lot. I used to do that when I was child, but at my teenager my ears magically become small... I am so luck! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[seadove]

My G-d Pantero you look like a Palestinian Suicide terrorist.

Thank good ness I know you better than that.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

http://www.sfpc.net/pics/et_1.jpg (\"http://www.sfpc.net/pics/et_1.jpg\")

[xxxPantero]

i look bad with long hair

i look bad with short hair

hence my need for a good stylist

[Alquimista]

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i look bad with long hair

i look bad with short hair

hence my need for a good stylist


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Come on dude, you seem to me quite insecure about your looks /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif. Just stay in front of a mirror for one hour and then try to imagine what is your best hairstyle, capisce?

[DaVinciKittie]

Dude, you seriously remind me of someone I know! &lt;no that\'s not a bad thing either- just a statement!&gt; Ok, first off, I\'m glad I didn\'t offend you. I assumed that since you had the balls to put yourself out there like that you were serious about wanting suggestions, so that\'s where I worked from. Second, to *ME* cute guys ARE sexy. I\'m the type who will snub the JCrew or Abercrombie (ESPECIALLY Abercrombie) guy and go for the cutie, and yes, I\'m talking about sex. I think you can be both cute and sexy at the same time, so the suggestions I made were along those lines. In fact, a different hair style might move you out of \"cute\" territory and into \"hot\" territory, especially if you play around with the facial hair. Proof that hair makes a big difference? Look at Clay from American Idol- *serious* transformation (no, I\'m not comparing you to Clay)! You still didn\'t say how tall you are though (again unless I missed it the first time around), and that\'s a big thing for me. It\'s unfair I know, but if I\'m taller than a guy, no matter now cute or hot or whatever he is, I\'m not interested. And he has to be taller when I\'m in my 3\" platforms. &lt;shrugs&gt; Some things you can change, and some things you can\'t (this presents a problem for me too, b/c I get hit on predominantly by latino guys, and they tend to be the shorter ones). You can somewhat counteract the height issue by carrying yourself straighter (yoga is great for that BTW), but that\'s like an inch tops. Anyway, I\'m probably not being much help at this point, but I did want to point out that not all women want the conventionally \"hot\" guys. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[B2C]

I feel like I have a kindred spirit now! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Well please feel free to take this advice for what it\'s worth (free duh!) If I were in your shoes I might want to consider the following:

1) Definitely try the JB#1 mix, even though you appear to be fairly young I think the NPA would only help you. The PCC will come in handy with the GF and possibly allow you to take more erotic pics!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif POST THEM! hehe
2) Facial hair works well for me, but not too much. IMHO, A nice looking goatee would look really good on you.
3) Start on a good HIT regemin. Take a look at HIT workout (\"http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/hitworkout.htm\") to get a starting point. Be sure to take in at least 1 gram/protein per LB!!! Consider yourself as bulking for the next 12 weeks, then you can re-evaluate your conditioning.

Good luck and take care Bro!

B2C

[xxxPantero]

<font color=\"blue\">Alquimista:
\"Come on dude, you seem to me quite insecure about your looks . Just stay in front of a mirror for one hour and then try to imagine what is your best hairstyle, capisce? \"</font>

I Did. Yes, I get insecure half of the time, the other half its just my \"never good enough\" attitude. I\'ve tried a few hairstyles, some I got by accident that looked good.
They were in the middle.
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<font color=\"blue\">DaVinciKittie
\"Dude, you seriously remind me of someone I know! &lt;no that\'s not a bad thing either- just a statement!&gt; Ok, first off, I\'m glad I didn\'t offend you. I assumed that since you had the balls to put yourself out there like that you were serious about wanting suggestions, so that\'s where I worked from. Second, to *ME* cute guys ARE sexy. I\'m the type who will snub the JCrew or Abercrombie (ESPECIALLY Abercrombie) guy and go for the cutie, and yes, I\'m talking about sex. I think you can be both cute and sexy at the same time, so the suggestions I made were along those lines. In fact, a different hair style might move you out of \"cute\" territory and into \"hot\" territory, especially if you play around with the facial hair. Proof that hair makes a big difference? Look at Clay from American Idol- *serious* transformation (no, I\'m not comparing you to Clay)! You still didn\'t say how tall you are though (again unless I missed it the first time around), and that\'s a big thing for me. It\'s unfair I know, but if I\'m taller than a guy, no matter now cute or hot or whatever he is, I\'m not interested. And he has to be taller when I\'m in my 3\" platforms. &lt;shrugs&gt; Some things you can change, and some things you can\'t (this presents a problem for me too, b/c I get hit on predominantly by latino guys, and they tend to be the shorter ones). You can somewhat counteract the height issue by carrying yourself straighter (yoga is great for that BTW), but that\'s like an inch tops. Anyway, I\'m probably not being much help at this point, but I did want to point out that not all women want the conventionally \"hot\" guys. \"</font>

I am 5\'9, but I think I grew an inch. So I think I\'m about 5\'10 (maybe 5\'11 with shoes... but I could be off by an inch). My main GF likes to use these 3-inch boots, which used make her about my height, now just an inch shorter (this is when I\'m barefoot, of course). I\'m less JCrew and more Express/Structure (when I feel like spending the money, otherwise I\'m nekkid, because I snub K-mart and Wal-mart and Target clothes). That\'s what I\'m talking about with the hair, too. I don\'t like that I look too young with no facial hair. I need to get a trimmer that trims me down to a 5-0\'clock shadow, because unlike some guys I know, I don\'t get it naturally. I get a \"dirty\" look on my face with no shaving, and it\'s uneven in some places.
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<font color=\"blue\">B2C
\"I feel like I have a kindred spirit now!

Well please feel free to take this advice for what it\'s worth (free duh!) If I were in your shoes I might want to consider the following:

1) Definitely try the JB#1 mix, even though you appear to be fairly young I think the NPA would only help you. The PCC will come in handy with the GF and possibly allow you to take more erotic pics!!! POST THEM! hehe /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif2) Facial hair works well for me, but not too much. IMHO, A nice looking goatee would look really good on you.
3) Start on a good HIT regemin. Take a look at HIT workout to get a starting point. Be sure to take in at least 1 gram/protein per LB!!! Consider yourself as bulking for the next 12 weeks, then you can re-evaluate your conditioning.\"</font>

Okay, will give the AE a few more tries before I give it the old heave-ho
I have more erotic pix, but that one was the only one decent enough that I\'d put online. I\'m perverted, not an a$$hole. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
And I\'ve started training. I want to bulk up, but still keep that \"lean\" look. I think women would find that sexier on me. Lean, like a stallion, not massive like a bull. ALthough I know my share of women who go for the BULL.
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OH MY GOD!!! I found one of my very first \"flash\" additions to a website I did years ago! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Love the music. Very dark loop. Damn, I should go back into that.
http://braddockdrumline.freeservers.com/newsheader.swf (\"http://braddockdrumline.freeservers.com/newsheader.swf\")

[B2C]

I can dig it Bro, I have the exact opposite scenario going. I\'ve always had the Bull thing going (in more ways than one! heh) and am now leaning out well.

B2C

[Andy]

Hmm ... Debbie is a cutie .... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Seriously Pantero, you\'re thinking way too much.

[Elana]

You are a cutie!!
Now I can come visit you next time I am in your B&amp;N. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Alquimista]

xxxPantero,
To get rid of your insecurity you should not have an hair dress that please the others; have one that pleases you. If you keep asking people even after you change again your heirdress, nothing will change: some of them will like it, and of them win not. So what matters here is what you think is better for you. A good-looking guy like you should not be worrying a lot about this \"litte issue\"... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Track0714]

you need some PI/m. That should stop the \"too cute\" comments

[nuttyProf]

LOL. hahaa you do look cute in that drumming pic. you have cute ears. hahaa. oh, and you need only 1 major thing for fix what you look like now. SHAVE UR ARMPITS man. looks like u have buckwheat in a headlock. hahaa jp. is not about looks man. its about confidence. with that, u can pick up as many chicks as you want. but its gotta be real confidence, not no cheap fake.

[monesrule]

isn\'t a man allowed to have armpit hair anymore?

[Elana]

Arm pit hair is so sexy! Men shouldn\'t shave it off.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Do NOT shave your armpits.

[monesrule]

must be those damn men\'s magazines again

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Ok, are you people all BLIND or what??

Look at his EYES, my god. He\'s got the serious f*ck me eyes.

Lose the goatee thing because it\'s distracting from your eyes. Yeah, find a good stylist (easier said than done).

Skinny/wiry is sexy, you\'ve got the right idea re stallion, not bull -- I don\'t think you can carry bull, it\'s not you, but stallion for sure.

You\'ve got better raw material than you give yourself credit for.

[Skyy]

What about eyebrows FTR? I just get mine plucked/waxed in the middle just to clean it up.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Yeah, that\'s good. You for sure don\'t want the unibrow thing goin\' on. I\'m for guys getting rid of hair between eyebrows, nose hair, and ear hair.

Other than that, I kinda like hairy guys, but that\'s just me.

Pantero, look. You\'ve got what you\'ve got, and you can maximize that - you can\'t change it but so much. \"Cute\" is good. You may not like \"cute,\" but cute will get you just as laid as \"handsome.\" It\'s suckage, but kind of a waste of time to try to be something ENTIRELY different that what you are. Be the best \"cute\" you can be.

Part of the reason you\'re getting that is because you\'re young, and part of the reason is that your face tends toward pretty. Don\'t be mad. Pretty boys get lotsa pussy too. WORK it!

Your girlfriend\'s hot, what do you want, man? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[monesrule]

Look at his EYES, my god. He\'s got the serious f*ck me eyes. &gt;&gt;&gt; Yea man, just give them that look like in that picture. It is not how you look but how you look at \'em. You might have to smile playfully though Mr. Thug.

I don\'t seee anything wrong with his hair, or the chin music, I don\'t know why people are complaining and why he doesn\'t like it. Anyway, you got a good color hair too. Dark black. Okay, the ears make you look younger (thus the \"cute stuff\"), but other then that, you are in better shape then 9 out of 10 guys. Not everybody is perfect. If some thinks you are not this or that, and they have one of their crazy hangups, just tell them to take one of the other nine guys instead of you.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

He\'s just wanting to kick some ideas around about his looks, he couldn\'t be but so worried for real, \'cause he\'s obviously doing ok. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

What do you not like about your hair, Pantero?

I say let the chin hair thing go because it\'s not quite happening. Shave. Like, do one or the other ... but this chin thing is like you wish you could really grow facial hair but you can\'t. Better off to shave; it\'s definitive.

my 2 cents

[tallmacky]

There is basically nothing you can do, you can maximize your outside aestetics but as far as increasing your sexual attractiveness......well there\'s pheros hehe. Your facial structure is set. What I mean is your beauty has little to do with the outside influences its set in stone.

It\'s the way your body is shaped, whether it be mathematical locations from point A to B, your features and on and on.

Take Brad Pitt for example you could have him playing a attractive lover in one movie, then you make him a garbage man in the next.....he is still attractive as a garbage man.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Brad Pitt\'s actually kind of a good example -- I\'m thinking of him as the cowboy bad boy in Thelma and Louise ... oh my, those abs ... he\'s cut. He\'s not bulky, he\'s defined, though. And he tends toward \"cute.\" I mean, he ain\'t no Alex Baldwin ...

[xxxPantero]

wow guys, thanks for all your input. i feel loved.

few things i\'d like to reply:

1) i\'m always hearing \"do what makes you feel good inside, not to please others\". what if what one of the things that make me feel good inside is looking nice to others? people are always saying \"be yourself\", but they fail to realize that THAT IS \"ME\".

2) about the hairdresser... i\'ve never had my hair styled. only cut, left to me to do whatever. but i\'d like a professional\'s opinion. a lot of these movie stars are average-looking, but after their hair is styled (and made-up for women/some men) they look beautiful.

3) i\'m confident and funny enough to where i can pick up a girl here and there, but as i stated before, it\'s never \"good enough\". the 20-somethings and above at my job enjoy my company, and i\'m still not satisfied. like i said, THAT IS \"ME\"

4) i\'m iffy on the armpit hair thing. i like the \"animalism\" that some hair suggests (on me, not on women /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif ), but i don\'t really mind as long as it\'s not distracting, pubic hair can be sexy, in fact i prefer that look over bald ones, since i\'m reminded too much of pre-pubescent girls, although that might change when i\'m a dirty old man. trimmed is nice... and i\'m rambling)

5) facial hair... losing the goatee for a 5\'0-clock shadow, trying that out, if it works, great, if not, oh well. when i shave completely i look 16. when i don\'t shave at all, i look like a scruffy mexican

6) the eyes... thank you FTR. i didn\'t know that. it wasn\'t intentional. if only i had that more often.
7) thanks people who say i\'m cute. thanks to those who also give me suggestions. if you are both, i love ya!
8) i pluck the center of my brows
9) right now i have my hair short, close to my head, people tell me they prefer it longer. i\'m neutral, so i\'ll go with whatever looks nicer.
10) armpit hair, i\'m thinking i should treat it like my pubes... trimmed, but not bare, but not buckwheat either. rule of thumb, if the hair starts to be visible while my arms are down (peeking out the sides), then i\'ll trim, until then, i\'m leaving a little of the animal in me. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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thanks everybody!

right now i look scruffy, since i have decided that this is a \"transitional\" period for me. and when i do care, i\'ll fix myself up. i can be getting to my goal slowly, as long as i know i\'m getting there.

i think of myself as a character in a role-playing game:
you can always increase the levels of health, strength, wealth, etc. and add new skills and build upon the character you were given. that\'s basically what i\'m doing.
although some of my improvements are superficial - looks, social skills(dancing, bartending, etc.), wealth, tone of voice - there are more improvements that are totally worthwhile and not superficial - memory, better thinking, ability to control dreams(lucid dreaming), being friendlier, getting to the point in conversations etc.

i am essentially a good person, who just wants to be better.

thanks for reading

[tallmacky]

cute? From his features he looks pretty manly, though as said he may be short but that\'s not really coming into the picture. It\'s a good and a bad thing for him he can play the pretty boy roles and women love it. He can try to be different and play the weird crazy f$\'d up guy like in Fight Club and people still remark on his good looks.

I can see what you mean FTR afterall I can imagine someone putting a wig on him and having him pass as a decent women.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

If your thing is self improvement, then self improve, right. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Have you ever gone to a men\'s clothing store that has good help and just asked a salesperson to pick stuff out for you? I know these are not your style, but for example, Briches and Jos A Banks has incredibly good salesmen who can put together shirts, ties, jackets in combinations you would never think of in colors that you\'d never think of, in looks that are FLATTERING. Re your idea of \"role play\" character, one Satuday just go to the mall and hit a bunch of stores and have the salesmen dress you in what they think would look good, and check yourself out.

That can be very interesting. Might give you some ideas to play with.

You should give your hair a month or two to grow before going to a stylist, so they will have something to work with.

You\'re starting to talk about money, now, you know ... clothes and hair etc etc.

[Goddess]

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Ok, are you people all BLIND or what??

Look at his EYES, my god. He\'s got the serious f*ck me eyes.

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I\'m with FTR on this one - I would NOT toss you out of my bed sweetheart. Personally, I don\'t go for the pretty boys (what most people would call drop-dead handsome). I like a little bad boy tossed in just for good measure. Can be attitude, career, martial arts, he-man stuff. Bad-boy doesn\'t have to be hell\'s angels looks, either. Honey, you have eyes that say \"Come here baby, let me ease your troubled soul\" I\'d say, just from this pix alone, that your eyes are your feature to play up. And, yeah, get rid of the little tuft on your chin. This makes you look young, aka inexperienced. (Not saying you are, just that it makes you LOOK like it) But you ain\'t got nothing to worry about...you look FINE! One tip (maybe this is just me) but like some of the guys who like a woman in tight jeans...well, I don\'t know of anything more sexy than a WELL-WORN tightly clinging pair of blue jeans on a man. A pair that cups his jewels in just the right fashion. Only a thought here.
-G-

[DaVinciKittie]

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I can imagine someone putting a wig on him and having him pass as a decent women.

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Well geez, Tallmacky, let\'s not give the guy a complex! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I think TM was talking about Brad Pitt.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

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Ok, are you people all BLIND or what??

Look at his EYES, my god. He\'s got the serious f*ck me eyes.

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I\'m with FTR on this one - I would NOT toss you out of my bed sweetheart. Personally, I don\'t go for the pretty boys (what most people would call drop-dead handsome). I like a little bad boy tossed in just for good measure. Can be attitude, career, martial arts, he-man stuff. Bad-boy doesn\'t have to be hell\'s angels looks, either. Honey, you have eyes that say \"Come here baby, let me ease your troubled soul\" I\'d say, just from this pix alone, that your eyes are your feature to play up. And, yeah, get rid of the little tuft on your chin. This makes you look young, aka inexperienced. (Not saying you are, just that it makes you LOOK like it) But you ain\'t got nothing to worry about...you look FINE! One tip (maybe this is just me) but like some of the guys who like a woman in tight jeans...well, I don\'t know of anything more sexy than a WELL-WORN tightly clinging pair of blue jeans on a man. A pair that cups his jewels in just the right fashion. Only a thought here.
-G-

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Jeans worn low, that fit right in the crotch/ass. Woo - hoooooo.

[Whiffy]

Pantero, I\'d just add to trim up on your sideburns about 1/2-3/4 of an inch on each side. I\'d also get a close, close cut on your hair; it looks bushy and very full. One accessory you might try would be to wear a beanie (a la Enrique iglesias or Eminem) that would 1.) cover up and pin back your \"cute\" ears and 2.) bring the attention to your eyes. As far as the unibrow (if you indeed even have one) don\'t sweat it, look at Liam Gallagher from Oasis and Colin Farrell. Big brows look tough.

Just my thoughts. Anyone agree?

[monesrule]

yea those tight blue jeans will get out all the farmer\'s daughters. just be careful of mutated genes.

[Whiffy]

Look into Diesel jeans. They\'re damn expensive but worth it for one, even two pairs. They hug the butt and accentuate the package better. There\'s so many styles, but definitely worth trying on a good 30 minutes worth once you find your style.

As for the coworkers, one thing to get them to see you in a different, more mature/handsome light: Pick out a nice, thin wire-frame pair of specs. Trust me, women love them for some reason and imagine throwing them off in the heat of passion.

That said, you\'re all set dude. Keep up the working out and trim the excess armpit hair.

[xxxPantero]

hahaha...

\"I can imagine someone putting a wig on him and having him pass as a decent women.\"

when i wear a wig, i look like a skinny version of my mom. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

anyway, let me make an example. look at edward norton.

picture him in
\"keeping the faith\"
\"fight club\"
\"american history x\"

the same features, but the hair changes so much, that he pulls off:
\"wussy boy good guy\"
\"regular joe with some issues\"
\"scary mofo badass\"
respectively

hair can affect the look of the face. the frame can affect the look of the picture. once the frame (hair), picture (face), room (clothes, body), and lighting (personality) match up, you will have a beautiful set (me /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif)
right now i think i\'m \"average joe\".. i\'d like to be either \"scary mofo badass\" for a little bit of fun, or \"good lawdy girl! look at him!\" hehehehehe for a different type of fun.

i feel it\'s relative that i should mention i had seriously considered acting as a career. i still might, when they start giving some good roles to middle easterns - i don\'t ever want to play the token punjabi in a movie or play. so i wonder what

what i dont\' like about my hair... u can\'t see it in the pics, but it sticks up in the back top, and makes me look like i have a big head. now, i\'ve had my head shaved (and blond...picture a brown eminem...long story) and so i KNOW i don\'t have a weird lookin head, but sometimes it sticks up and makes me self-conscious. the majority of my gel goes to mat down that area, but i want to find a stylist that can figure out how to work with that.

as far as the jeans...
i\'m super picky about clothes. i am worse than the female stereotype. i will try on every pants in the store in order to find one. maybe.
i\'m lucky enough to have a perky butt (so i\'ve heard)
i wear boxers, though, not briefs... how do i get the jeans to cup my crotch? i think i should bulk up first (slightly), so the jeans will naturally cup my crotch. i like the \"boot cut\" jeans... slightly tight on the thighs, loose on the calves. either straight leg, or unnoticeably flared.

and yes, i do know this will cost a lot. but, i am taking it one step at a time. first the hair. then the ears. then the clothes, etc. i hate spending money... even when i have saved it for a specific purpose, i don\'t like spending it. unless of course, it\'s not my money. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

thanks girls and guys...
keep those suggestions rolling in!!!

[xxxPantero]

PREPARE TO BE HORRIFIED!

DON\'T CLICK THIS IF YOU JUST ATE!!!

I know I\'m not as sexy as I\'d like to be, although I\'m not bad, but I had to name this one...

THE UGLY DUCKLING. Seriously, when you see this pic, you will know why I have issues and doubts about my looks. I once thought I looked normal, average. This was what I looked like:
http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/sfpcbass/images/02.jpg (\"http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/sfpcbass/images/02.jpg\")

AAAAAAAAH!! Scary, wasn\'t it? Okay, at least it was a big jump in two years. Whiffy, don\'t ever mention glasses again! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Okay guys, off to the gym to hopefully work on that body of mine.

Oh, and gentlemen... make sure to work out your legs so you don\'t have the hulk\'s torso, and carrot top\'s legs! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Just a reminder.

[Whiffy]

Hmmm, well maybe not those kind of glasses. Try small, small rectangular specs.

What about a cowboy hat? Ever worn one of those??

Hehehe, sorry.

[tallmacky]

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Trust me, women love them for some reason and imagine throwing them off in the heat of passion.


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Hahah that sounds funny.

Do you want tips to make you overall a more sexually attractive guy. I mean the little tid bits like buy these jeans and do this and that does that really make you more attractive, maybe to the girl on the street looking at you but most people will want to take this girl home and ride her for awhile ya know. I can tell what\'s real and what\'s not when it comes to true beauty to a women. I can tell an ugly girl who just has money to accessories as hell and appear to be average.

Then again women are much much different eh. Maybe the little tid bits are more appreciate well, they are.

[Whiffy]

He said he wanted to be seen in a different light. He\'s already working on his build and personality and mones, these are just superficial additions so others will see him a different light. They won\'t change who he is.

In effect, I answered his question. It\'s all about appearances right now.

[tallmacky]

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I just saw that picture, for some reason in the picture you look as if you have Downs Syndrome. Where\'s the pic at I know its BK, local or where you guys all driving somewhere.

[xxxPantero]

LOL down syndrome

thank god i don\'t

yeah it\'s a BK. i think it\'s in ohio, south carolina, georgia, one of these places. i remember there was a lot of hills. confusing for someone from miami.

[DaVinciKittie]

Ah, ok... That makes more sense. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Hmmm, well maybe not those kind of glasses. Try small, small rectangular specs.

What about a cowboy hat? Ever worn one of those??

Hehehe, sorry.

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That\'s funny - I was just thinking about that, too, about the glasses.

Glasses are as significant as hair cuts. You have to really shop carefully for glasses and be willing to throw down serious cash for designer frames if that\'s what looks good. I end up spending $200-$300 just on frames sometimes, but it\'s worth it. If they\'re the right frames for your face, they\'ll enhance your image.

[marv14yag]

Contacts.

Bart

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They don\'t make contacts for my prescription. It would be nice, tho - that\'s a good option, if you can.

[marv14yag]

There\'sa VERY GOOD salon. I go to.

It\'s a BIT EXPENSIVE.

It\'s called OUTER LIMITS off 441.

I use wax in my hair, etc.

I have probably added a number and a half to my face just from hair cut.

Anyway.

If your ears are big, cover them wtih long heair.

Long doesn\'t mean longer than what you have either...Long means COMPLETELY COVER THEM...
Like Kelso on that 70\'s show or something.

Now, dude, shave armpits?

I don\'t know.

I\'ve shaved the legs, armpits...

Some girls that it was cool, I don\'t know...It doens\'t really matter. IT\'s better for mones if you don\'t shave them. And becing a man, you can do that. In fact, having little arm pit hair can be detrimental to that image.

Nice pic of the girlfriend orgasming...I think I\'m going to keep that one, he he.

Anyway...

Listen...

I have a long, thin nose. My face is not perfect.

Hair cut...

Work out.

Eat right (warrior diet)

I don\'t really know what to tell you man, I don\'t really get girls....

But your girlfriend\'s hot.

Why do you care? You got the girl..What else do you want?

It\'s all...

The more you sacrifice, the more you get.

Basically, if you want to better yourself, you sacrifice more.

These could be things like.

Eating, sleeping, wokring out hard, studying, etc. (No sleeping...Military, teach you to run off less sleep, etc...)

Soem famous guy that says stuff said that to better yourself, do what\'s hard.

Do that.

If it\'s hard to ask a girl out, do it.

If it\'s hard to work out, not sleep, not eat, have sex more than once a day, do it...

Bart

[Alquimista]

xxxPantero,
After take a careful look to you pictures, I conlude the best for you is this: use big hair, with that your ears will look smaller. Throw away your glasses; instead buy some good contacts or like somebody here suggest spend a good money on a good frames. And finally, let your chin grow up; you have that thug looks and you look older.
If you all that, I think that you will accomplish your goals about looks and you will get rid of this \"Teletubbies look\" that you have on the last picture (the one that you are with your buddies). /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[TBiRD]

Incase u care for my opinion :

-Your girl is hot , keep her , don\'t f--k around if u could loose her doing that ! (atleast keep her untill u find something better /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif )

-Best feauture on you : Your eyes ! Never use glasses again.

- Want even hotter babes ? (older,more experienced , not the young gal your boinking right now) work on your body. As someone suggested , you need a fullbody workout - hit the gym dammit. Eat more , so you bulk up - then tone down again through workout , leaving u with something u could actually call chest/shoulders/arms...

-hair ain\'t too bad the way it is....stil definetly go for a haircut that can be easily changed into lots of different styles...don\'t ever go back to the very short look !

- f****ng trimm those pits....disgusting /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif , don\'t mean to insult u , it\'s just pure horror for me...DOn\'t shave of , just trimm a bit , that will look MUCH better.

-Keep the sleezy , cheezy , don juan , i\'ma put killa-antz in you pants look on your face...chic magnet !

Thats it ! Maybe one last (funny) thing :

Everybody on this thread (me included) has suggested suff that (more or less) :

a) u already know by yourself
b) u are certainly fully aware of
c) u are currently workin to improve , because of a) + b) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

wich combined means : You are doing everything right ! There is nothing to worry about !
You look alright !
YOu got friends !
You got a girl !
YOu can get other girls aswell !

= ANother Huge Confidence Boost !


~Peace I\'m out /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[xxxPantero]

Guys, I just wanted to post a thank you to you all for helping me out. If Hallmark made the words, I\'d say them. I am so grateful to have such a wide variety of opinions.

What I\'ve done, What I\'m doing!:
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1) Took the advice about the armpits. Combined the females\' (\"keep the armpit hair\") and the males\' (\"it\'s nasty, shave it off!\") advice here, and just bought a face trimmer and trimmed it down. Basically there\'s still hair, just not buckwheat. Used it on my pubes (with a longer setting) and that answers THAT question for me (and hopefully others as well). Gives a trimmed but masculine look. Maybe I\'ll PM the women on here later on with more explicit pictures for more \"intimate\" comments and suggestions. Any volunteers?

2) Took the advice about the 5\'0 clock shadow vs. the goatee. Instead of shaving with a razor, I just used the face trimmer at the lowest setting, to give me an artificial 5\'0 clock shadow. Also shortened up the side-burns, too. Also plucked the middle of my eyebrows for stray hairs. Then I had to stop myself before I got too creative.

3) Noted Diesel Jeans... Whiffy, any idea where I can find them? What places distribute these jeans? Any females know of some other sexy jeans out there? I got tired of baggy jeans a long time ago, but I always hated ankle biters. Need something that fits close, but not tight, and that still looks REALLY nice. Girls, please list your favorite brands of clothing for guys (and why! e.g. \"Diesel jeans because they fit close around the crotch without making you look less masculine\").

4) Gonna do a consultation at Florida Center for Cosmetic Surgery to see about my ears.

5) Working out, swimming/running, working on voice (The Sound of Your Voice by Carol Fleming), trying out \"Double Your Dating\" Advanced Series (the CD\'s),

6) Getting (hopefully) a better job (in addition to the one I already have)

7) Keeping up with school, friends, family, work, GF, and other things important to me to maintain balance in my life

8) Dropping the other females for now, and just concentrating on the main GF right now (although she \"left\" me Thursday at 7:20, ran into her room, and made up with me at 7:25 - I have a love/hate relationship with the drama... But then again I guess we all do.)

9) Taking ZMA as not just a workout supplement, but as a partial multi-vitamin

10) Keep on searching for the right combination and application of pheromones that work for me! (Next: Trade AE for APC &amp; PCC, since AE isn\'t helping me much) Sometimes this seach is frustrating!

11) Not being obssessive about working out or the things mentioned above. Staying practical, optimistic but realistic. And always attempting to have fun/enjoy what I am doing.

THANK YOU ALL. I had needed everyone\'s previous (and future) comments here. Every single one. Some put my head in the clouds, others kept my feet on the ground. I\'m glad I discovered this forum.

I will be putting up new pics every major change, for your comments and suggestions (\"go back to the way it was\", \"i like it, good move\", \"still not right\", \"i farted\", \"let\'s have monkey-love sex\", etc.)

See ya!

Thanks, and don\'t forget to POST!

[Alquimista]

WHOA!!!! What a big resolution, xxx! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Charisma]

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3) Noted Diesel Jeans... Whiffy, any idea where I can find them? What places distribute these jeans? Any females know of some other sexy jeans out there? I got tired of baggy jeans a long time ago, but I always hated ankle biters. Need something that fits close, but not tight, and that still looks REALLY nice. Girls, please list your favorite brands of clothing for guys (and why! e.g. \"Diesel jeans because they fit close around the crotch without making you look less masculine\").

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Ok, I\'m not a girl, but I\'m gonna post my favourite brand of jeans anyway /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif:
Ice Jeans by Iceberg (\"http://www.iceberg.com\"). Nice fabrics and design. According to my Mrs. this jeans fits perfectly (also around the crotch /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif). Even though it\'s designer jeans, it\'s a rewarding investment! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif