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proteus
05-24-2003, 04:02 AM
I began testing WAGG and NPA/w and found the results pretty good from my perspective. I tested both at work Thurs. and Fri. and from everything I\'ve observed so far WAGG seems to do exactly as described - make you appear much more approachable. I\'m fairly new to this place I work at now as I started there about 5 - 6 weeks ago and up to this point had been using SOE and PF together at work. WAGG seems to work just as well as these two combined except for one difference. I\'ve always noticed that some people are put off when you wear too much SOE, but with WAGG it seems everyone likes being around you.

To give a specific example, there is a pretty gorgeous young lady in our dept. who to put it politely is a bit of a b*tch - very territorial, very rude and not well-liked as a result. Well the past two days when I\'ve worn WAGG she has been totally different - we work in the same general area so she gets to whiff the pheros all day and she has been a totally different person, very friendly to everyone, engaging in conversation, no rudeness and actually asking folks to come and hangout with her and chat (as I said she is very territorial - if you enter her work area you\'re lucky if you don\'t get your head chewed off). And folks who are usually quiet have been very relaxed and chatty so there\'s definitely something going on and suddenly it seems I\'m everyone\'s buddy in the dept. (most I already knew well by now, but a couple were somewhat reserved, but now even they seem very comfortable around me). I love SOE, but I honestly have to that for me WAGG seems to work better.

One other interesting thing about WAGG is the confidence thing - SOE gives this boost as well, but WAGG seems just as good or better as I feel absolutely relaxed in talking with anyone anytime, and this to me is invaluable in meeting new women. So overall, so far WAGG is as good as if not better than SOE (and to repeat I love SOE /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif ) but I think there is something to this phero.

The interesting thing is that with SOE I always felt I had to add the PF to offset the neg. effects it had on some folk but with WAGG I feel no inclination to add anything to the mix.

As far as sexual hits I didn\'t notice any with WAGG, but the important point to me is that it seems all folk, both male and female felt comfortable approaching me, having conversations etc. so to me this is a big positive as proximity equals making it possible to meet new ladies with greater ease.

As for NPA/w I haven\'t tested it enough either but I like it so far. What I did was as follows: I\'d use WAGG for about half the day, then go to the restroom and apply NPA/w and see what happened. With WAGG alone, no observable sexual hits, but with NPA/w I noticed, especially yesterday that it definitely seems to have an effect on the ladies. Both the lady I mentioned already and this other blonde lady who is in our dept. both started acting very flirtatious after I added NPA/w and for some reason the conversations all around me turned to sex /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif - I haven\'t tested it enough, but epecially yesterday, after I added the NPA/w the blonde got very fidgety in her chair, very sexual in her conversation and was giving me these funny looks /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

I won\'t test the NPA/w at work anymore though as I don\'t need the aggravation as I used pheros in the past at work and got unwanted and potentially perilous attention from my boss at the time. But so far it looks good and will test more.

Anyway, so this is my first two days of WAGG and NPA/w testing. Will only post on them again after much more testing and if anything significant happens. But WAGG to me is a definite winner, and for you SOE users, try WAGG as to me it\'s it has all the upsides of SOE and no downside whatsoever as far as I can tell.

franki
05-24-2003, 04:40 AM
Thanks Proteus. How much WAGG did you use?

Your experiences with NPA/w are in line with what I am seeing with TE/w. It seems to be a sexual attractant like NPA/TE for men, but (maybe) with a slightly different vibe.

frenchie
05-24-2003, 04:41 AM
I agree totally with you about WAGG, on all points.
How much WAGG and NPAw did you use ?

Frenchie :-)

Visionary
05-24-2003, 05:20 AM
Interesting post Proteus.
Do you find WAGG has some similar negative effects on yourself that SOE may have (makes you overtalkative, silly or tired)? Or is it just completely positive effects?

Franki or anyone else here.
What do you mean by slightly different sexual vibe between NPA/m and NPA/w? Can you expand on the difference in responses.

EXIT63
05-24-2003, 05:23 AM
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Interesting post Proteus.
Do you find WAGG has some similar negative effects on yourself that SOE may have (makes you overtalkative, silly or tired)? Or is it just completely positive effects?

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or pounding headaches?

proteus
05-24-2003, 09:11 AM
Franki and Frenchie: I used quite a bit of WAGG actually - one dab on left and right side of my neck, one dab on each cheek and one dab on the underside of each wrist. So that was six dabs, and no negative OD responses whatsoever. I\'m thinking I\'ll try and reduce the amount and see whether the effect remains the same.

Visionary: I have to admit the WAGG did make me talkative, but I didn\'t feel over-talkative or silly that seems to happen a lot when I wear PF and sometimes with SOE (sometimes I feel this way with SOE but not too much - I\'m thinking perhaps the -rone in it mitigates the silly effects that -nol has on oneself).

I actually felt very clearheaded with WAGG and was talkative but I feel in a good way - in other words it makes you feel at ease having conversations with anyone, but without becoming silly I feel. As for feeling tired, no tiredness whatsoever - as I mentioned I feel pretty clearheaded when wearing WAGG, and whereas PF for example also can make you sleepy, WAGG did not have this effect. I will post more as I test again, but I really like this product.

frenchie
05-24-2003, 10:07 AM
clearheaded, that\'s the right word for WAGG. 6 dabs is quite a lot, they wrote 1-2 drops on the bottle.
How much NPA did you use ?

proteus
05-24-2003, 10:37 AM
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clearheaded, that\'s the right word for WAGG. 6 dabs is quite a lot, they wrote 1-2 drops on the bottle.
How much NPA did you use ?

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I typically ignore directions on the bottles Frenchie /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif . That\'s another thing I like about WAGG - I used a lot and no OD responses, and WAGG does not have too strong a smell so it\'s easy to cover up with cologne. To answer your question, I used two dabs of NPA/w. It smells similar to NPA/m in a way, so I was worried about causing a stench at work /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Visionary
05-24-2003, 05:00 PM
One more question guys (Frenchie, Proteus, anyone else). I have found that with SOE I don\'t get respect at all and I hate the feeling. I can be a clown on occasions but with SOE people blurt out smartass comments towards me which I don\'t like at all.

Do you find that WAGG gives you more respect than SOE or other -nol products? How would you compare it with the respect you might get with PI/m? Obviously, mention if you are the sort of person who never/hardly ever gets laughed at (is well respected).

proteus
05-25-2003, 02:32 AM
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One more question guys (Frenchie, Proteus, anyone else). I have found that with SOE I don\'t get respect at all and I hate the feeling. I can be a clown on occasions but with SOE people blurt out smartass comments towards me which I don\'t like at all.

Do you find that WAGG gives you more respect than SOE or other -nol products? How would you compare it with the respect you might get with PI/m? Obviously, mention if you are the sort of person who never/hardly ever gets laughed at (is well respected).

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Visionary: I tend to get respect for the most part so this is not too applicable to me. However, if for example I wear PF on it\'s own I find that I lose this \"respect\" factor, whereas combined with SOE, this seems to be nullified.

As for WAGG I did not notice any diminishment in \"respect\". I will say though that when I wore AE to work a week or so ago (and this is very rare for me, to wear a strong -none product to work) even the Director of IT in our dept. who never talks much to anyone spent a great deal of time in conversation with me as did others at the executive level, and not discussing shop, just talking about stuff. However, the ladies seemed a little intimidated so I felt I better not wear it again as usually if problems occur in the office, it comes from that direction (for me /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif ) So if an increase in respect is what you seek, WAGG probabaly needs some -none added to it. But for me I feel I\'ve found the perfect balance with WAGG minus the sexual hits (so far)- a great work phero IMHO.

foofoo
05-25-2003, 05:04 PM
proteus, since your using wagg, would you thus see yourself as an alpha-male type of person, as wagg is supposed to be good for such people. , youve made me think again about wagg cos some girls were a bit intimidated by me when i had npa,soe,ae on

foofoo
05-25-2003, 05:49 PM
BTW just to clarify, does wagg sooth the effect of the a-none and not wipe it out as it were? therefore, the result will be that you will still be alpha, sexy, but be much more approachable?

proteus
05-26-2003, 04:14 AM
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proteus, since your using wagg, would you thus see yourself as an alpha-male type of person, as wagg is supposed to be good for such people. , youve made me think again about wagg cos some girls were a bit intimidated by me when i had npa,soe,ae on

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Well, I\'m definitely an alpha-male, but in a quiet way (don\'t like to make waves, be loud etc) and achieve what I want this way, and generally find myself in leadership roles whether in high school, college or work. I know I intimidate a lot of people initially, both male and female /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif, as I\'ve been told this, that I look very unapproachable, aloof, stuck-up etc. but when folks get to know me they usually find I\'m pretty down to earth and friendly enough /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. But this is why I usually will go with the -nol products at work in particular as it makes my job easier as I deal many different people all day so it helps to have them feel relaxed around you.

But the interesting thing is some of the -none products work very well for me like AE, JB#1 and NPA, which is suprising as I\'d have thought it would just make me even more intimidating. But these work for some reason whereas PPA for example I\'ve had nothing but really bad reactions with.

As for whether WAGG soothes the effect of -none, I have no idea as I haven\'t tested it with a -none product but it seems logical to assume that if it reduces the \"intimidation factor\" it must offset endogenous -none in some way.

xvs
05-27-2003, 12:23 PM
A number of people have posted that WAGG in a combo with PI or another -none product works really well.

What seems to be happening is that the -none still attracts attention, but since there\'s WAGG too, the attention is more positive.

I\'ve found that -none alone causes women to get very intimidated and defensive around me, but with WAGG that doesn\'t happen.

metroman
05-27-2003, 03:51 PM
Thanks for the WAGG post proteus. I\'m definetly on the lone wolf side so I\'ve been using SOE at work alot as it helps, but as you said even with the SOE I can OD. I have WAGG but never really used it that much until I read your post. I\'ve been using it now for a couple of days I find I can wear 2,3,4 dabs &amp; still not OD which is amazing for me. In some ways it reminds me of the reports I hear about A1 in that it improves the mood of the wearer but also seems to have a calming approachability effect on people in your orbit. I\'m definetly going to try it in combo with some of the none products. I can OD with 2 drops of AE depending...sometimes I can get away with 2 so I\'ll have to try it with JB1, TE etc...

frenchie
05-27-2003, 10:52 PM
WAGG is a great stuff, even for a woman : even guys are very nice with me and show some \"respect\" in professional conditions (which is not always the case when you\'re a woman working with men only...). I always use the 1-2 drops dosage and that\'s enough.
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proteus
05-28-2003, 03:57 PM
Hi all,
well I\'ve continued the WAGG testing with mixed results. I\'ve been very careful to try and be as objective as possible and I\'ve finally come to the conclusion that while WAGG works great for making folks open to you, and making you approachable, I absolutely feel that just like with PF on it\'s own, you begin to lose the \"respect\" factor. It became very noticeable today especially as guys who would usually listen and were somewhat docile to me, were starting to act up this morning. So during lunch hour I went to the restroom and put on two dabs of AE and the change was remarkable. Same guys were now again docile, listening to me, treating me like an \"alpha\" again. It\'s hard to put into words how dramatic the difference I noted, but it was very clear and across the board. Using AE and WAGG together seemed to work really well with no OD effects whatsoever. I\'ll update this after more testing, but this was pretty interesting to me. However, on another note every since I began using WAGG I have noticed a greater amount of ladies coming by my work area, stopping by for no particular reason and being \"extremely\" friendly so I guess I need to find a balance between maintaining respect from the men and maintaining this approachability.

SyraBrian
05-29-2003, 02:34 PM
I have some questions, proteus. Have you noticed any changes in the way the women at your workplace are dressing? Are they choosing to wear sexier clothing at work?

Since I have Alter-Ego, and plan on getting WAGG, this thread is very interesting to me.

Also, has that gorgeous but uptight blonde continued to \"loosen up\" while in your presence? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

foofoo
05-29-2003, 03:51 PM
this may sound like a stupid question but when women see you as more approachable from the use of wagg, do they feel this way at a subconscious level? ie they dont actually think in their heads, \"oh, he\'s quite approachable\", and would that apply to the effects of all mone products with their desirable results?

proteus
05-31-2003, 07:06 AM
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I have some questions, proteus. Have you noticed any changes in the way the women at your workplace are dressing? Are they choosing to wear sexier clothing at work?

Since I have Alter-Ego, and plan on getting WAGG, this thread is very interesting to me.

Also, has that gorgeous but uptight blonde continued to \"loosen up\" while in your presence? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Well, I haven\'t noticed anything different in what they wear at work. The place I work has a strict dress code (at least the IT dept. does) so they dress professionally and I haven\'t noticed a difference.

As for the uptight lady, she is actually not the blonde (she\'s brunette, and really gorgeous). The blonde is the other lady I mentioned. As for the uptight one, she is still uptight but something pretty interesting happened yesterday when a bunch of us from work went out for drinks after work. I\'ll relate this later as I\'m pressed for time right now, but I think I have found a great, actually super combo that works exactly as you\'d like pheros too.

SyraBrian
05-31-2003, 08:43 AM
Oh man, getting us all revved up and not providing the details is cruel! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

proteus
06-01-2003, 03:09 PM
Well sorry about that - busy weekend, so no time to post. Anyway, went out with a bunch of the folk for drinks after work and decided to wear WAGG (4 dabs), NPA/w 4 dabs, AE (2 dabs. The two ladies I already mentioned were in the group and then a friend of one of them also joined us (this lady has the most beautiful face I\'ve seen in ages - okay body but her face is a dream ).

Anyway, so this combo worked about as well as I\'ve ever experienced with combos like JB#1, but for me personally in some ways even better. The blonde was hitting on me all evening, and I think the pheros particularly got to her as she began relating the most personal sexual stories you could imagine, then gave very descriptive accounts of all her piercings, include the one on her clit hood /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif - she was like this all evening and then sometime through the evening she whispers to me \"you are beautiful\" - if not that we are co-workers.....then the uptight b*tch who was still acting the same as her usual self, b*tchy, is asking one of the guys in range of me if I\'m single as she wants to ask me out - when she saw I\'d heard she was mortified and starts backtracking saying she didn\'t mean me, she meant someone else . The other guys are laughing and I ask them what\'s up? And they say someone was trying to hookup with you. So I found this pretty interesting indeed - again I work with her so no way. What was very interesting to me is that I had women at the bar, this freakin gorgeous blonde and her gorgeous friend directly checking me out all the evening, perhaps the attention from the ladies in the group had them curious about me, and it seemed every time I went to get a drink, another lady was trying to start a convo. The friend of the blonde in our group seemed similarly affected, but I sensed the blonde was getting very pissed off so she backed off since she doesn\'t work with us and had been invited by the blonde. So no hookups , but it was strange how when the pheros are right, it can work magic and the funniest thing is how all the guys, were treating me as the alpha and these are pretty dominant guys themselves but it was one of those nights where it seems all the phero combo was right. IMO NPA/w was the key to this as it seemed to add something that I can\'t quite put my finger on, but every time I wear it with WAGG it seems it just adds that little spark that pushes them. Anyway, I\'m going to test this when I next go out but I like this combo. Can anyone who\'s used NPA/w with either WAGG or one of the -none products give some feedback if you can of your experiences as I\'m very curious about hearing others experiences with this.

**DONOTDELETE**
06-01-2003, 03:12 PM
No one deserves it more than you, Proteus. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

MOBLEYC57
06-01-2003, 04:05 PM
Was AE the male or female version P? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Sounds like you had a good evening. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

proteus
06-01-2003, 04:55 PM
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No one deserves it more than you, Proteus. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Very nice of you to say that FTR and quite undeserved. But thanks /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Mobley, I used AE/m. Definitely was a good evening - it\'ll be interesting to see what happens at work manana /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

MOBLEYC57
06-01-2003, 05:28 PM
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No one deserves it more than you, Proteus. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Very nice of you to say that FTR and quite undeserved. But thanks /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Mobley, I used AE/m. Definitely was a good evening - it\'ll be interesting to see what happens at work manana /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

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Eye\'ll ve vaiting fa dee durt ohn ya day at vork manana n dee pee.m. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Dunt faget ta smeyele lieek ya goot ah durty seecrit wen ya geet ta vork. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

xvs
06-01-2003, 07:00 PM
That\'s an interesting hit story.

It seems that WAGG causes women to be comfortable and open up to you. I\'ve had many women say things like \"I don\'t know why I\'m telling you this...\" etc. and \"I feel so comfortable with you\".

In this case the NPA and AE caused more of a sexual reaction, and that plus the WAGG produced the effect of being comfortable and opening up... about sexual matters!

At least that\'s how I\'d interpret it...

SyraBrian
06-02-2003, 09:48 AM
It was worth the wait, proteus! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Looks like I\'ll have to add NPA to my upcoming order of WAGG. It does read ike that WAGG blocks the intimidation effect of the other two products.

Like others, I\'m wondering if you\'re going to get any \"Don\'t know what got into me\" statements today.

proteus
06-15-2003, 04:13 AM
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It was worth the wait, proteus! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Looks like I\'ll have to add NPA to my upcoming order of WAGG. It does read ike that WAGG blocks the intimidation effect of the other two products.

Like others, I\'m wondering if you\'re going to get any \"Don\'t know what got into me\" statements today.

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I would have posted what happened since then, but we had a large amount of layoffs going on at our firm and with the amount of folks who I know that were laid off, I just wasn\'t in the mood to do much posting lately. Very depressing atmosphere at work but that\'s the nature of this economy.

Anyway, as for what\'s happened since, both of the ladies who I work with that I already mentioned earlier actually just continued with their flirting etc. when I got in to work that Monday. I went out with the b*tchy one Friday night (yes, her, the one I couldn\'t stand coz she is usually a first class you know what), and actually had a great time - the WAGG seems to have worked some \"magic\" on her and I was pretty much astounded that she was interested in me, as prior to beginning using WAGG I literally could not stand her and so we barely spoke to each other. She does sense I\'m very wary of her however, and even though she is gorgeous, I\'m worried about dating her seriously as I feel she\'s too high maintenance. Anyway we\'ll see. But Friday night she got very close, resting her head against my chest, let me kiss her and when I finally had to go she was really disappointed but I want to take things slow as I know how she can be /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. Interesting thing was how many other ladies were trying to catch my eye - guess when you are with an attractive lady, it draws the others in. As for what I was wearing 2 dabs WAGG, 2 dabs NPA/w and 2 dabs PF.

SyraBrian
06-16-2003, 01:07 PM
Your last post almost reminds me of that classic line from King Kong......

\" It was WAGG that soothed that savage b****h!\" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

frenchie
06-17-2003, 08:35 AM
Proteus,
WAGG + NPAw ? not bad at all ! I had a professional meeting, put this mix (2 dabs of each)... I seem to get more reactions from women (one of them kept looking at me really directly). The funny thing is that I had never got any result with NPAw alone.
I\'ll try it again, but with drops instead of dabs.
Maybe you\'re onto something good ! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

proteus
06-18-2003, 02:26 AM
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Proteus,
WAGG + NPAw ? not bad at all ! I had a professional meeting, put this mix (2 dabs of each)... I seem to get more reactions from women (one of them kept looking at me really directly). The funny thing is that I had never got any result with NPAw alone.
I\'ll try it again, but with drops instead of dabs.
Maybe you\'re onto something good ! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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Very interesting post Frenchie! I\'m convinced something is going on as I\'m getting \"attention\" from ladies that I haven\'t had before. The hits are of a different nature than I had with -nol or -none products - it just seems with both WAGG and NPA/w on at the same time it\'s almost like it causes a bonding between you and ladies around you. The brunette lady I mentioned is so into me now, it\'s unbelievable the change in her and we are going out again this weekend - and the blonde is still pursuing me, wearing very \"interesting\" outfits to work and following me around all the time /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. Anyway, hope you test some more Frenchie and post the results. I will do the same.

SyraBrian
06-18-2003, 10:06 AM
And who asked you to look out for a change in clothing styles, proteus? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

WAGG just keeps sounding better and better! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

akinu
06-18-2003, 10:12 AM
Any suggestions for WAGG+TE(spray)

SonnyBlack
06-18-2003, 12:51 PM
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Any suggestions for WAGG+TE(spray)

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">would this work as well as NPA/w???is the only difference between NPA and NPA/w the amount of secret ingredients? IS it supposed to have the same secret ingredients in both just more in the NPA/w??Im really interested in NPA/w now....Oh Proteus, before I forget...what phero combos have you been wearing ar5ound trhe burnette??And what kind of behavior does she display when you go out...more sexual or more bonding???

SyraBrian
06-18-2003, 01:38 PM
Has the brunette given you any explanation for her warming up to you?

I once had an experience similar to that with a beautiful brunette who tended bar at a local restaurant.

After repeated exposure to the wipe version of the Edge combined with Pheromol Factor, the poor gal went from being an ice queen to being a puddle of goo!

What do you mean by \"interesting\" outfits? More cleavage, more leg, tighter clothing?

Sorry for all the questions, but it reads like you\'re onto something here!

proteus
06-21-2003, 09:35 AM
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Has the brunette given you any explanation for her warming up to you?

I once had an experience similar to that with a beautiful brunette who tended bar at a local restaurant.

After repeated exposure to the wipe version of the Edge combined with Pheromol Factor, the poor gal went from being an ice queen to being a puddle of goo!

What do you mean by \"interesting\" outfits? More cleavage, more leg, tighter clothing?

Sorry for all the questions, but it reads like you\'re onto something here!

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Sorry for the delay in replying. Don\'t get on the board during the week much if at all as too busy with work.

No, the brunette has given me no explanation for her change in behavior. We went out again last night and it was a very good evening - much like last week, her getting very cuddly etc. - usually I\'d have moved much faster (as in made sure I\'d had sex with her by now) but taking it slower as I am wary of her as I already mentioned and then since we work together I have mixed feelings about this. We arranged (well, she asked ) to go out next Friday to a party she\'s going to so she asked if I\'ll go with her - so, so far it seems that everything is going fine.

As for what type of behavior she displays around me, I\'d have to say more bonding than sexual, although last night there was a great deal of sexual tension (I had to restrain myself - hard to do when your pants are a tent /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif and I got the sense she wanted to jump me - she did notice the tent in my pants too /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

As you may have noticed from reading this thread, the two pheros I consistently use around her are WAGG (2 dabs) and NPA/w (2 dabs) and then I sometimes use PF with this other times AE or NPA - it seems with the AE or NPA it definitely turns on the sexual vibes whereas with PF I like it because it loosens up everyone and I\'ve gotten accustomed to folks I do not know starting very familiar conversations with me when using WAGG/NPA/w/PF and this includes ladies. As for how this works with TE, I dunno - I have a bottle of TE but have barely used it since I\'m having a lot of fun with my other pheros - I will try it sometime and see what results I get.

Lastly, about the outfits the blonde wears /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif, well she is a funny one. You have to understand this is a very conservative corporate environment, with a strict dess code, yet she comes in wearing these tight pants and very short shirt that leaves her belly completely exposed, and these shirts that she leaves unbuttoned almost to her belly button so when she is sitting next to you, you can see much of her bra (when she wears one) and breasts - she has this habit when she is dressed like this of coming up to my desk and leaning over to show me stuff and well, my eyes can\'t miss the view /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. She is a very big flirt especially so around me - the funniest was when she dropped something in front of me late in the day when most folks had left the office and she gets on her hands and knees with her butt facing me and searches for whatever she dropped and her pants are half down her hips and she treats me to a view of half of her panties (g-string)and ass cheeks /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif - anyway, I\'m trying to tone down my phero use at the office as I don\'t want to get in any trouble, but it seems once a lady is really into you, it\'s hard to withdraw as it just seems to make them want you more. But I think she has backed off a little as the brunette has kinda been marking her territory and making it clear to the blonde not to interfere - not in so many words but she is very intimidating and if she catches the blonde around me she will come sit down, shift the conversation to her and give the blonde these very cold looks so the blonde won\'t even come out with us anymore. But before I began using WAGG and NPA/w she was extremely rude around me - I remember one time I went to get some computer stuff - can\'t remember what, but it was close by her desk. Anyway, I\'m totally focused on this and she turns to me and says \"could you go somewhere else with that as this place is getting crowded\" - I had just began working there and mentioned this to some of the other guys and they said she is always like that, very territorial, doesn\'t want any in or near her work area. They just said she\'s a bitch and stay away from her - other times I\'d ask her a question like, \"where are the ethernet cables stored\" and she acts like I haven\'t even said anything looks at me then goes on working - she knew I was extremely pissed but all I said was \"never mind I can ask someone else, and asked the other guy there who told me right away - after that I had no time for her and just ignored her 100%. So stupid things like this were her typical behavior, and I just came to the conclusion that she was in fact a bitch as everyone said and I have never been one to use this term lightly but it definitely applied to her and I couldn\'t stand her.

Then I get the WAGG and NPA/w and she is like a \"TOTALLY\" different person. So you tell me, what else could explain the change. So anyhow, I\'m still wary of her and I think sometime I\'ll ask her how come she was so rude when I first began working there.

Whitehall
06-21-2003, 10:27 AM
Man, how do you get to work at such places? There\'s nothing around my office but a bunch of post-menopausal bitties and a few obese sows. Obviously, I\'m extremely jealous.
Perhaps it\'s better this way - \"lead me not into temptation...\"

proteus
06-21-2003, 11:18 AM
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Man, how do you get to work at such places? There\'s nothing around my office but a bunch of post-menopausal bitties and a few obese sows. Obviously, I\'m extremely jealous.
Perhaps it\'s better this way - \"lead me not into temptation...\"

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I hear ya Whitehall. I definitely got lucky in some respects. Up to this point I\'ve worked in environments like you describe and had resigned myself to this fact. But I should have known this place would be different when I interviewed, and the lady doing the interview was a 10. Guess the prestige of the firm draws in the hotties /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

However, there are downsides too as I\'ve also never worked in an environment where I\'m seeing massive corporate layoffs in progress, and it\'s very disconcerting to say the least. In many ways I was much happier at my old job but couldn\'t turn down this opportunity so here I am.

SyraBrian
06-23-2003, 09:09 AM
Thanks for the update. Your attention to detail makes this thread most interesting!

Once I get my debts straightened out, I\'m definitely upping my phero arsenal! Your reports give me something to look forward to!

SyraBrian
07-02-2003, 10:29 AM
How did the party go? Are your co-workers still into you?

frenchie
07-02-2003, 12:57 PM
well well well... it does seem to be a good mix !
Got another hit today : I just went to the drugstore to get some anti-inflammatory cream for my foot (!), and this girl asks me what I want, I tell her I play tennis and I\'m really bothered not to be able to play because of a stupid foot pain, and she gives me the cream and acts as if she doesn\'t want me to go... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Unfortunately she\'s a nice 25yo hetero - it would have been much better for you guys !

proteus
07-02-2003, 05:44 PM
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How did the party go? Are your co-workers still into you?

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Actually there was a change of plans and we went to another party that night. The brunette and I didn\'t spend too much time together as we both spent a lot of time mingling with other folks who had come, so we didn\'t talk much. But we went out the night after and things went excellent - very strange night in many ways - perhaps I\'ll post about it sometime. But it seems everyone now knows there\'s something going on between the two of us and as I said the night was about as perfect as it could have been. Just trying to take it slow now, but as weird as it sounds, I really like this lady - the more I get to know her I find she is so different from the persona she projected when we first met and I\'m totally fascinated by her. Anyway, don\'t want to say much more as I feel the more you talk about this stuff you just end up jinxing the situation, so just allowing things to continue on the path they\'re going and nudging things along where needed /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif But the WAGG/NPA/w is definitely working wonders for me. As for the blonde, forget about it - you wouldn\'t even believe if I told you what she did the other day /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Frenchie: glad to hear you\'re getting hits in your tests. I\'m finding this combo makes ladies VERY touchy/feely with me so it\'s interesting to read your post. Please post more of your testing.

MOBLEYC57
07-02-2003, 06:26 PM
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As for the blonde, forget about it - you wouldn\'t even believe if I told you what she did the other day /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Alright Mister P! You get away with not jinxing your hopeful, but for crying out loud! Give up the blonde info! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif What were you wearing, how were you wearing it, how many drops, did she moon ya? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SwingerMD
07-02-2003, 08:30 PM
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As for the blonde, forget about it - you wouldn\'t even believe if I told you what she did the other day

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Yes, please do tell!!! As for believeability, I\'ve heard a whole lot of unbelievable things from women and I\'ve posted most of em in my hit stories. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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frenchie
07-03-2003, 10:23 AM
Another experiment today : I had a professional meeting this afternoon and we were about 10. No man. All of the women are heteros, in the mid 30s, except one of them whom I suspect to be gay (or she\'s a liar). Didn\'t know any of them before today. All of them work in the perfume industry, either as marketing specialists or perfume creators, so all of them are used to a lot of social contacts, easy talking, etc...
I wore the same mix : 2 drops WAGG, 2 drops NPAw.
Here are the results : one woman (a perfume creator) was really nice with me, had good eye contact. An other one (I\'m sure she is gay) kept looking at me right in the eyes, didn\'t try to talk to me but really kept looking.
I wasn\'t awaiting any sexual hit or anything, but all of these people are perfume pros and they have a nose...
So it definitely works !

my 2 gay cents /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

proteus
07-06-2003, 04:10 AM
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As for the blonde, forget about it - you wouldn\'t even believe if I told you what she did the other day /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Alright Mister P! You get away with not jinxing your hopeful, but for crying out loud! Give up the blonde info! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif What were you wearing, how were you wearing it, how many drops, did she moon ya? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Well okay Mobes here is what she did. (And by the way I\'m starting to think this blonde is just like this and it has nothing to do with my wearing pheros) Anyway, it was one of those very hot and humid NY days so anyhow blondie comes in to work wearing a white cotton dress a white blouse underneath and a white shirt over the blouse but unbuttoned. So she comes in (as I said we share an office) and I\'m busy working on my computer so don\'t take a close look at her. But a few minutes later I finish what I do and turn to her to chat a little and she is standing drinking coffee and that\'s when I notice that I\'m seeing legs and her white panties - the cotton dress is basically see-through so her panties are completely exposed. Then she puts down her coffee, takes off the white shirt she was wearing over the blouse and I find out that the blouse underneath is completely and I mean completely exposing her breasts and nipples - she might as well have been wearing nothing!! She is smiling as I\'m looking then sits down at her desk and begins working. Other guys who work there come in here and then to get stuff and their jaws drop too. The brunette comes in and man does she give blondie the coldest look I\'ve ever seen /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. So anyhow after awhile with how busy we are I\'m busy working, when about two hours or so later she comes near me and bends down to pick something from the floor that she dropped. I turn and her blouse of course falls forward so I see all off her breasts and nipples and then she says \"my breasts are falling out of this top\". I just grin and say nothing. But a little while later the Technology Director walks in and sees her and he says to her straight away \"that\'s not exactly the way we should be dressing at work is it\". She is mortified and embarrassed and so shortly afterwards she went and put back on the white shirt and buttons it up and ties a sweater around her waist and strategically covers her private area so at least from the front, no-one can see her panties. I just have come to the conclusion she\'s an exhibitionist and loves the attention. But all the guys were like \"wow, did you see what ...is wearing\". One never knows what she will do next, although ever since that day she has dressed very conservatively to work so I think what our director said really scared her /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

proteus
07-06-2003, 04:12 AM
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Another experiment today : I had a professional meeting this afternoon and we were about 10. No man. All of the women are heteros, in the mid 30s, except one of them whom I suspect to be gay (or she\'s a liar). Didn\'t know any of them before today. All of them work in the perfume industry, either as marketing specialists or perfume creators, so all of them are used to a lot of social contacts, easy talking, etc...
I wore the same mix : 2 drops WAGG, 2 drops NPAw.
Here are the results : one woman (a perfume creator) was really nice with me, had good eye contact. An other one (I\'m sure she is gay) kept looking at me right in the eyes, didn\'t try to talk to me but really kept looking.
I wasn\'t awaiting any sexual hit or anything, but all of these people are perfume pros and they have a nose...
So it definitely works !

my 2 gay cents /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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Hey Frenchie, glad to hear this is working for you. Have you tried this around the lady who you have the huge crush on?? It\'d be interesting to see what response you\'d get from her. I\'ve actually tried using each of the products on their own for a number of days and then used the WAGG and NPA/w together and it seems the two together is the trick as separately the responses I get are definitely not the same.

BizmanJoe
07-23-2006, 11:16 PM
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It was worth the wait, proteus!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Looks like I\'ll have to add NPA to my upcoming order of

WAGG. It does read ike that WAGG blocks the intimidation effect of the other two products.

Like others, I\'m

wondering if you\'re going to get any \"Don\'t know what got into me\" statements today.

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I would have posted what happened since then, but we had a large amount

of layoffs going on at our firm and with the amount of folks who I know that were laid off, I just wasn\'t in the

mood to do much posting lately. Very depressing atmosphere at work but that\'s the nature of this economy.



Anyway, as for what\'s happened since, both of the ladies who I work with that I already mentioned earlier

actually just continued with their flirting etc. when I got in to work that Monday. I went out with the b*tchy one

Friday night (yes, her, the one I couldn\'t stand coz she is usually a first class you know what), and actually

had a great time - the WAGG seems to have worked some \"magic\" on her and I was pretty much astounded that she

was interested in me, as prior to beginning using WAGG I literally could not stand her and so we barely spoke to

each other. She does sense I\'m very wary of her however, and even though she is gorgeous, I\'m worried about

dating her seriously as I feel she\'s too high maintenance. Anyway we\'ll see. But Friday night she got very

close, resting her head against my chest, let me kiss her and when I finally had to go she was really disappointed

but I want to take things slow as I know how she can be /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

Interesting thing was how many other ladies were trying to catch my eye - guess when you are with an attractive

lady, it draws the others in. As for what I was wearing 2 dabs WAGG, 2 dabs NPA/w and 2 dabs PF.


I

find it absolutely fascinating that you are using NPA/w and NOT NPA/m in your mixes and getting great results with

the hotties. Wouldn't the use of NPA/w theoretically signal your "availability" to men rather than women???

Scott
07-24-2006, 03:11 AM
I find it

absolutely fascinating that you are using NPA/w and NOT NPA/m in your mixes and getting great results with the

hotties. Wouldn't the use of NPA/w theoretically signal your "availability" to men rather than women???



You do realise this thread is 3 years old?

Just thoughti'd point that out.

terry0400-40
07-24-2006, 04:20 AM
I was going to put some A 314 in the shopping, now after reading the wagg comments i will have

to settle down and do a bit more study on the products, possably look at some wagg-n, but then again iv got npa,

and i dont think i will ever be at rest till ive got some PI, so maby straight out wagg will do, i would also try it

alone and if i appear as too much of a woos i could always add a bit of muscle.:smite:

Gegogi
07-24-2006, 11:33 AM
Dang, this thread is ancient.

Anytime one of these rises from the dead it's surprising how many of the posters are labeled "Banned User."

BizmanJoe
07-24-2006, 11:39 AM
Yes, I know it's an old thread, but the info is still revelent and intriguing. I've never considered

using a woman's pheromone in my mix before. Wouldn't it send out the wrong vibe???

terry0400-40
07-24-2006, 11:58 AM
Im to new to go playing around with female stuff right now, thats why im here

learning off you blokes, and what the hell is a reputation point because i discovered iv got 10 , I am a fairly new

on the pc as well . there is some great personalities on the forum, i think Gegogi is a very colourfull character i

respect his opinions and feedback, Iam still smiling about the time he got drenched in npa though, poor guy. i

wonder if npa can restore hair ha ha:type:

Holmes
07-24-2006, 12:31 PM
Where's proteus?

terry0400-40
07-24-2006, 12:41 PM
i never did get much

schooling so im not sure who Proteus is either,i received this question in an email.

bronzie
07-24-2006, 02:12 PM
You do realise this

thread is 3 years old?

Just thoughti'd point that out.

Scot nice Icon, I hope for your sake

its someone you know.

Yeah the guy that re-started the thread replied as if the thread was posted today, very

errie, runs shivers down my spine!

terry0400-40
07-24-2006, 04:13 PM
I

will try and not waste everyones time by replying to the old stuff i didnt notice, i do spend a bit of time going

back looking for hit results ect though

BizmanJoe
07-24-2006, 06:15 PM
Scot nice Icon, I hope for your sake its someone you know.

Yeah the guy that re-started the

thread replied as if the thread was posted today, very errie, runs shivers down my spine!

Beware the

Boogieman (boogie, boogie)!:LOL: