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krtel
05-15-2003, 11:16 AM
I\'m thinking about getting a book that is sort of like dating 101. I was just wondering if anyone here has purchased a dating book before and if so, which one and what did you think of it? Thanks.....


- Krish

pelotudo
05-15-2003, 11:48 AM
Get on Kazaa and download Double Your Dating, by David DeAngelo. The book is like $40, but you can get it off there. I\'ve been using his techniques for a while now with GREAT results.

Also, check out http://www.pickupguide.com (\"http://www.pickupguide.com\")

-Jon

tallmacky
05-15-2003, 11:54 AM
lots of good pdf books on kazaa and the likes of, I got a an odd book about sending beta brain waves and making women secretly want you some far off [bad word] that I am not sure if I believe. If anyone wants to check it out its called \"Body Language Psychic Seduction\" I believe it is on kazaa.

krtel
05-15-2003, 01:33 PM
Thanks dude, I\'ll look for it.

Just out of curiousity, what do you think of titles such as
\"Idiot\'s Guide To Dating\" or \"Dating for Dummies\"? Seriously though, when it comes to dating, I\'m a complete idiot. lol. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

- Krish

Mtnjim
05-15-2003, 02:06 PM
\"Get on Kazaa and download Double Your Dating, by David DeAngelo. The book is like $40, but you can get it off there...\"

Why is it so many people see no problem with stealing from someone. Would you have a problem walking up to them, slamming them across the face with a .44 cal. and taking the money out of their wallet?

David DeAngelo makes his living SELLING the book, so you are stealing from him.

Phantom
05-15-2003, 02:08 PM
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\"Get on Kazaa and download Double Your Dating, by David DeAngelo. The book is like $40, but you can get it off there...\"

Why is it so many people see no problem with stealing from someone. Would you have a problem walking up to them, slamming them across the face with a .44 cal. and taking the money out of their wallet?

David DeAngelo makes his living SELLING the book, so you are stealing from him.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">No

Mtnjim
05-15-2003, 02:12 PM
\"Why is it so many people see no problem with stealing from someone. Would you have a problem walking up to them, slamming them across the face with a .44 cal. and taking the money out of their wallet?

David DeAngelo makes his living SELLING the book, so you are stealing from him.


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No\"

So it would be OK for someone to do it to you?
(and no you can\'t modify it by saying you can defend yourself-in this scenario, they can do it to you without a doubt.)

Phantom
05-15-2003, 02:15 PM
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\"Why is it so many people see no problem with stealing from someone. Would you have a problem walking up to them, slamming them across the face with a .44 cal. and taking the money out of their wallet?

David DeAngelo makes his living SELLING the book, so you are stealing from him.


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No\"

So it would be OK for someone to do it to you?
(and no you can\'t modify it by saying you can defend yourself-in this scenario, they can do it to you without a doubt.)

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> I would never write a book in the first place, i\'m too busy getting laid /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif.

Mtnjim
05-15-2003, 02:20 PM
\"I would never write a book in the first place\"

I\'ll go slowly. It\'s not about writing a book, it\'s about STEALING someone\'s livelyhood. The cost of a book, or the money you made working as a fry cook at Burger King, it doesn\'t matter. This is a question of ethics (you can look up the meaning in a dictionary)and in this matter, stealing a paper clip is the same as stealing all of the gold in Fort Knox. Being a thief is like being pregnent, either you are or you aren\'t there is no in between.

Whiffy
05-15-2003, 02:22 PM
WHY IS THIS QUESTION EVEN IN THE PHEROMONE FORUM?

I swear, this thing is totally getting bogged down by senseless discussions and repeated questions over and over... That\'s why we have other discussion boards, the search function and archives. I think a friend of mine (name kept secret to protect the innocent) said it best when they said: it\'s all gone the way of newbies asking for help, then posting replies 3 days later to other newbies.

I miss the old pros like Dr. Smellthis. He doesn\'t even come around very often, it\'s so ridiculous now...

Whew! Blowing off steam is fun! Okay, I\'m done. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

No harm intended just trying to steer things back on track.

Phantom
05-15-2003, 02:33 PM
Hey Whiffy, take a Whiffy of this /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif!, Just Kidding. I\'m with you a 100% this has been discussed many times before. I usually download mp3\'s from kazaa ect.., and then I buy the albums which I really like. If that \"Double Your Dating, by David DeAngelo\" BS really sucks, you would of been really happy that you have\'nt wasted your money on the crap. But if you did you can always buy the book for greater convenience. I\'ve downloaded and read dating books off kazaa ect.. they were all bullsh/t, I figured out that I get laid 100000000000000000% more using my methods and natural game, all those stupid techniques just made me look like an ass.

Mtnjim
05-15-2003, 02:35 PM
\"Whew! Blowing off steam is fun! Okay, I\'m done.\"

Me too!!
It\'s just that I get irritated with 17somethings who have contributed absolutely nothing to society (yet) thinking the world owes them. Sorry, the world was here first, it owes you nothing.

koolking1
05-15-2003, 03:02 PM
hey laughing that psychic brain wave stuff works for me at the dog track!!! that long stare needed - not sure if the women would go for it!

**DONOTDELETE**
05-15-2003, 03:12 PM
Dating for Dummies is good, I highly recommend it. It will save you grief.

The other stuff ... you have to pick what style you feel most comfortable with and go with it ... read through what you can get for free and whichever one feels good to you is probably closest to your natural style so you can work off of that.

Dating for Dummies is quick and easy but it hits the nail on the head on critical common points of misunderstanding between men and women.

As an aside - it\'s been spoken of in this thread and that about the allure of the married man. One thing the married man has in his favor is that he knows (really really knows) at least one woman, so a woman can feel a little more relaxed around a married man.

Dating for Dummies helps you get past any really stupid mistakes you might have otherwise made, and the other stuff at least gives you some rap and a perspective to start with -- so you come off looking like/having the vibe of a guy who\'s user friendly.

**ahem, read the stuff you can LEGALLY get for free, I meant to say, of course.

pelotudo
05-15-2003, 03:27 PM
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It\'s just that I get irritated with 17somethings who have contributed absolutely nothing to society (yet) thinking the world owes them. Sorry, the world was here first, it owes you nothing.

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Sorry, I\'m 19..and no, I don\'t think anyone owes me anything. I don\'t know why I\'m even responding to this, but I might as well since you seem to feel the need to jump on me.

David DeAngelo is the author of MANY books. His most famous being Double Your Dating. I came along to his site a while back, and saw the information he had posted. Curious, I went to Kazaa and d/led it. I do the same for CD\'s I\'m considering buying, which I have no problem doing afterwards...but I don\'t feel like wasting $15 on a CD that has one good song on it and that\'s it. If I feel the artist is good, I will purchase their product...same thing with Mr. DeAngelo. \"DYD\" is probably his most popular book, but it\'s not his only one. He has MANY buyers for this book, and has his own newletter that I am also a part of. After reading this book, which I downloaded from Kazaa, I did purchase products from him. I purchased 2 of his other books, as his full price, and contributed to his wealth b/c I believe what he wrote very informational and I have been using it since. I feel that he is a good author, and that I have no problem paying him for his thoughts and products. If the first book had been BS, and I had paid $40 for it, then I would have probably been upset..but instead, I wasn\'t. I feel other people should do the same thing.

And to address your question about stealing. I have warez, pirated software, have looked over hacked pornographic accounts, have many CD\'s that I have burned from downloaded songs from Kazaa, along with much more that I have gotten not so legally. Do I feel bad about it? Not really. Should I? Probably. These artists and companies producing the games and software I have downloaded have more money then I could ever dream of owning (Situations arise, yes..I know.. Local artists that don\'t have much money and haven\'t hit it big...they\'re a different story b/c I will purchase one of their cd\'s whether I know it\'s going to be good or not, b/c I support local stuff)..and the same situation arises as far as gameplay, etc. Microsoft, Blizzard Games, Interplay, and numerous other companies that I have software from are corporations that are not going to go anywhere for a long time. B/c I download Windows XP instead of purchasing it...doesn\'t make me feel bad, and it\'s not going to put them out of business.

Just b/c you believe one thing, I would appreciate it if you would not try to push your beliefs and vent on me about it. If I thought it was wrong, and felt bad about it, then I wouldn\'t do it..simple as that. Your analogy is a little far fetched in situations like this, but I guess it may be valid in your eyes..and my answer to it is NO.

Thank you, good night.

-Jon

Whiffy
05-15-2003, 03:34 PM
For the record, and pelotudo you know I\'m cool, I said nothing about age. Hell, I love younger women... Alls I commented on was newbies dispensing all-too-quick advice and off-topic threads. I like these stories, but damn .. I hate weeding through nonsensical threads like that annoying \"women\" one.

My conscience is clear. Even if I do download all my music online! Hehehe

pelotudo
05-15-2003, 03:36 PM
Yeah, none of that was projected toward you. It was in response to the replies made by Mtnjim.

And yes, that women one is a PITA :P

Mtnjim
05-15-2003, 03:54 PM
\"Sorry, I\'m 19\"
Ok---never mind, \"ethics\" isn\'t in your dictionary, so we\'ll never agree on this.

pelotudo
05-15-2003, 04:12 PM
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\"Sorry, I\'m 19\"
Ok---never mind, \"ethics\" isn\'t in your dictionary, so we\'ll never agree on this.

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I\'m sorry, but I didn\'t know being a certain age determines ethical values when it comes to certain issues.

I guess criticising me on my age, and then taking that even further by somehow trying to coorelate it with my ethics is a lot easier then actually trying to have an intelligent conversation about this and explain to me your side of the discussion in regards to the points I made above. I believe certain things b/c I have my own belief system, not b/c I\'m 19 or \"immature\" which is what you insenuating. Instead of just criticising me, why don\'t you explain to me your side and maybe we can come to a mutual consensus..instead of tossing age/ethical insults towards each other until it gets to the point that others on this board see both of us in a different light and wont want to deal with us. Just b/c I am a certain age doesn\'t mean you have the right to stereotype me as one some immature or ignorant kid who doesn\'t care or think about what he does. But just throwing me in that category certantly doesn\'t make me want to do anything other than just that...

Or...just continue to throw out insults about my age and values... Either way is fine with me.

-Jon

Mtnjim
05-15-2003, 04:31 PM
\"I\'m sorry, but I didn\'t know being a certain age determines ethical values when it comes to certain issues.\"

I\'m sorry you misunderstood--8 or 80 age doesn\'t matter when you take something that isn\'t yours and you aren\'t entitled to is theft. If I\'m wrong, let me know and I\'ll inform the people at Webster\'s

pelotudo
05-15-2003, 04:39 PM
Yet again, don\'t worry about any of the points I have made regarding my side of this discussion...continue to ignore them and question my ethics w/o explaining your side at all.

Whiffy
05-15-2003, 05:31 PM
I\'d just let this one go. It\'s a pheromone forum; not a cyber ethics board.

To each his own... I\'m gonna continue to do what i want, as most people should. Just don\'t hurt anyone and we\'re all cool.

Yeah, yeah .. now someone\'s gonna go off on \"stealing hurts people...\" And I agree. But that\'s your opinion, enjoy it.

krtel
05-15-2003, 05:49 PM
I contribute a lot to this forum. If you are really as serious as you seem, you\'d know that. Who the hell are you to talk to me that way? Get lost peon.

krtel
05-15-2003, 05:53 PM
Excuse me, I\'m 17. I have a [bad word] right to ask a question on this forum. You\'re not the only one that uses this forum. Ugh.

krtel
05-15-2003, 05:55 PM
\"I\'d just let this one go. It\'s a pheromone forum; not a cyber ethics board.\"

Good, then let it go. Just shut your mouth so we can hear less about global warming.

krtel
05-15-2003, 05:57 PM
Thanks FTR. I was planning on getting that book. Now I feel better about buying it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

- Krish

Whiffy
05-15-2003, 06:04 PM
I respect you and your ideas. You have contributed some great ideas when it comes to pheromones. But scroll back and read what I wrote. What forum are we in? If I wanted to read about dating, I\'d surf over to www.sosuave.com (\"http://www.sosuave.com\") or something along those lines.

krtel
05-15-2003, 06:07 PM
Tell me why the majority of us wear pheromones? To enhance our social life, which includes dating. I put it this way, the better your own dating/social skills are, the better your pheromones will be able to enhance you in the eyes of the opposite sex. So dating and pheromones are indeed related.

- Krish

Whiffy
05-15-2003, 06:15 PM
Related? Sometimes. Sometimes I wear mones so I can deal with my [bad word] boss, sometimes I just wanna piss off guys around me when I feel like being aggressive. Sometimes I just wanna make myself feel better (Realm, anyone?).

I agree, I love reading (well, at least I used to) about dating tricks/tips. Hell, I\'d by lying if I said I didn\'t learn a thing or two. But that has it\'s OWN place. Unless I\'m wrong, then ... well, I\'m wrong. But I think sometimes you gotta respect the rules. And the idea behind the pheromone forum was pheromone use and information. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

krtel
05-15-2003, 06:18 PM
*yawn* Whatever ya say dude. Useless argument.

Skyy
05-15-2003, 06:21 PM
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Hey Whiffy, take a Whiffy of this /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif!, Just Kidding. I\'m with you a 100% this has been discussed many times before. I usually download mp3\'s from kazaa ect.., and then I buy the albums which I really like. If that \"Double Your Dating, by David DeAngelo\" BS really sucks, you would of been really happy that you have\'nt wasted your money on the crap. But if you did you can always buy the book for greater convenience. I\'ve downloaded and read dating books off kazaa ect.. they were all bullsh/t, I figured out that I get laid 100000000000000000% more using my methods and natural game, all those stupid techniques just made me look like an ass.

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DOH you apply so many friken mones I dout you even have to open your mouth and say anything.

Whiffy
05-15-2003, 06:30 PM
[quoteDOH you apply so many friken mones I dout you even have to open your mouth and say anything.

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Can anyone translate this?

jose
05-15-2003, 07:50 PM
\"I\'m thinking about getting a book that is sort of like dating 101. I was just wondering if anyone here has purchased a dating book before and if so, which one and what did you think of it? Thanks.....\"

I\'ve tried \"Double your Dating\" techniques and they do come in pretty handy in certain situations. It does call for you to change your attitude and the way you approach women. The \"cocky&amp;funny\" route is a good way to go, the trick is not to look like a jerk and have her feel attraction towards you. Another site I recommend is www.askmen.com (\"http://www.askmen.com\") and read Doc Love\'s articles and his book \"The System\" it will cost you more about $100, but it does come with two cassettes.

krtel
06-19-2003, 04:14 PM
Well, I finally bought a book. The one I picked was \"The System\" by askmen.com\'s Doc Love.

- Krish

CptKipling
06-20-2003, 07:14 AM
What did you think of it?

krtel
06-20-2003, 04:35 PM
I just received it in the mail today. I played both CD\'s just for a few minutes and yeah, I think I could really learn from this stuff. I also glanced at the book and it really seems like there is a ton of useful advice in it. I will do further reading tonight.

I\'ll tell ya though, if you read askmen.com\'s articles, you\'ll realize that most of his strategies and advice is politically incorrect. You can bet it is the right advice though. One thing I\'ve learned from him is to never take advice from women about women. Politically incorrect, but yeah, I suppose he is right.

- Krish

DaVinciKittie
06-20-2003, 07:12 PM
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I\'ll tell ya though, if you read askmen.com\'s articles, you\'ll realize that most of his strategies and advice is politically incorrect. You can bet it is the right advice though. One thing I\'ve learned from him is to never take advice from women about women. Politically incorrect, but yeah, I suppose he is right.

- Krish

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Uh-oh, Krish. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif That\'s not such a good supposition. There are definitely some women you should never take advice from, just as there as some men I\'d never take advice from- you\'ve just got to find a woman/women that you trust and you know have it all straight. I wouldn\'t expect to get better advice from my girlfriends (in general) than from my guy friends when it comes to guys, so who do you think I go to for advice? On dating and men, I go to the men, for the most part. I\'ve never heard of this series before but if it encourages you to *not* trust advice from level-headed, experienced women, I think you might be setting yourself up for trouble. When something in this area isn\'t considered PC, there\'s usually a good reason. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Not criticizing! Just trying to save you some heartache later. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Keep your ears open to advice from *both* sexes, and just use your head (the one on your shoulders)- I don\'t really think this stuff is all that complicated if you just do what feels right. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

krtel
06-20-2003, 08:05 PM
Well, the book doesen\'t say it. The book covers every aspect of a relationship with the primary focus on getting the girl and how to keep her. Like I just read a few pages, and I\'ve learned to avoid chatter about age and weight with women. I\'ve also learned that affection is a woman\'s #1 requirement, next to respect. Etc. This is one book I won\'t be sending back. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif However, Doc Love teaches the guy about every single game the girl can play and every single mistake the guy can make. There\'s a lot more that I haven\'t read.

But as for not taking advice from women about women isn\'t in the book. At least I haven\'t read it. Rather, I read it on askmen.com in one of Doc Love\'s articles. There were some interesting scenarios and case studies. I completly agree with you that there are some members of the opposite sex that are really experienced and can give you some great advice. However, the problem with me was that I realized that most of the advice I get about women comes from 99.8% women. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif So I can keep hearing it, but I need a 2nd viewpoint. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif In case if you wanted to read the article, here is the link: http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove_150/183_relationship_expert.html (\"http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove_150/183_relationship_expert.html\")

Thanks for the advice! *hands you a cookie* /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

- Krish

CptKipling
06-21-2003, 04:09 AM
If it wasnt so expensive then i wuold buy it myself, I\'m sure it has a lot of really good advice, but at a price so much higher than production costs, I\'m extreemly reluctant.

proteus
06-21-2003, 11:24 AM
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I\'ve also learned that affection is a woman\'s #1 requirement, next to respect. Etc. However, Doc Love teaches the guy about every single game the girl can play and every single mistake the guy can make.

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This book sounds interesting - may take a look at it. Not sure about the affection thing though, but will reserve judgement until I read what he says. I think attitude/presence is the number one thing women notice first after they\'ve determined whether or not your looks attract them. Anyway, will check out the book but thanks for the heads up on this.

As for the article, I agree 100% - I never take dating advice from a woman - they will tell you the stuff in those womens magazines that is bound to have women walking all over you and sending you into LJBF land. The article also talks about how women get infuriated when guys take the advice from these seduction/dating sites - easy to see why. They know this stuff works on them and it pisses them off - now all these games wouldn\'t be necessary if women did not play so many head games with guys - of course they have their biological reasons for doing this so we end up where we started I guess /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif