New User - Weird Hits

[rsvp63]

I just got my Package from LoveScent on Friday, have been experimenting all weekend, with some very strange (but fun) results.

I ordered SOE, AE, NPA, and PPA. Started with the following mix: 6 SOA: 3AE: 2NPA mixed all together with around 20 parts aftershave. I made up a batch of this and used about 5 drops of the mix.

On Friday, some female neighbors came over unexpectedly. The mix was not made by then, so i just threw on 4 drops of AE.

The girls stayed all night drinking tequila with me and my mate and although i got early signs of interest, by the end of the night, the two girls had come to blows over who got to be with my mate. This was VERY strange! My mate made out with one of them that night, and the next night the other girl asked him to stay for the night, crap result for me but he was happy /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Then on sunday, wearing my mix, I was in an Indian restaurant getting a take away. As soon as I walked in the dude behind the counter started acting strange, he started commenting on my hair, and asking what I worked as! He then started offering free beer while I waited, and making the weirdest conversations. As I went to pay, he said, \'no this one is on me\'. This has NEVER happened before. It was as though I was a celebrity or something ;(

So a couple of days testing, no decent female action for me, but still a great laugh. Gonna do some better testing in the strip club next weekend, should be good /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Does anyone have any suggestions on the mix, I want women, NO MEN /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Regards,

RSVP

[tallmacky]

nice point, personally I would up the NPA in the mix but that is just personal, and I am always looking for sexual hits. The story you told of the Indian restaurant is cool I hope that happens to me hehehe. nice post!

[Skyy]

Yeah ive kinda been wanting to test my mones out at a strip club as well. Curious on what kinda results I might get.

[rsvp63]

Gotta wonder what hotties will do when then are rubbing that close to you anyway. Gonna make lap dances a WHOLE lot more interesting /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Elana]

Just bring plenty of $$$$ /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[rsvp63]

heheh, I always do!

[Elana]

Then save your mones, because that is all the dancers are interested in. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[tallmacky]

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Then save your mones, because that is all the dancers are interested in. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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They are a emtional wreck, why even bother buy some lube

[Elana]

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They are a emtional wreck, why even bother buy some lube

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Another brilliant comment from Tallmacky! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
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[tallmacky]

If any guys have had experiences with strippers please come forward, by no means are these girls bad people at all. Many of these girls have been molested or raped at an early age and have problems with men, whether its a want for love or a hatred, we are not guided in life by coincidients instead our subconcious pulls and pushes us in directions which we think we are \"just here. My friends brother is a DJ at a strip club in Syracuse, he tells us accurate details of just how the girls are, with their high end emotional problems and so on, he never said they were bad people by any means. I have a knack for saying the completely wrong thing or something that people would like to beat my ass for, I am going to totally cut back on that.
People usually have jobs based on \"what they like\" to a certain degree. You certainly would not call a prostitute free and clean of all emotional problems.

[rsvp63]

I have always found that strippers are very astute business women, hell making €30 ($25) every 5 minutes is a good business to be in.

[Elana]

I made about $2000-$4000/week. Think I am a train wreck TM?

[tallmacky]

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I made about $2000-$4000/week. Think I am a train wreck TM?

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What does that have to do with anything? The reason most women don\'t enter this field?

[Elana]

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What does that have to do with anything? The reason most women don\'t enter this field?

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I have a feeling that all of my beautiful, normal, college degree X-dancer friends would disagree with you as well.

[Phantom]

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The girls stayed all night drinking tequila with me and my mate and although i got early signs of interest, by the end of the night, the two girls had come to blows over who got to be with my mate. This was VERY strange! My mate made out with one of them that night, and the next night the other girl asked him to stay for the night, crap result for me but he was happy

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">This is classic \"group hookup theory\", He must of been acting more Alpha/outgoing than you and bit off your pheromone signature. Try acting more desirable and i\'m sure your success will increase 10 fold /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

[Cloud9]

must suck to be seen and treated like a piece of meat.

[monesrule]

all i have to say is i love the fact that strippers are empowered and use their sexuality to use people, which is why i have only gone to a club twice, i know there game, and i respect them for it. Why? Because the idiot girls who are to classy to do that then flash their breasts for a companies that make millions of dollars of them. What do they get? A damn t-shirt or something, and they think that is cool. The rest of their lives that moment will be caputured for all to see. And yes i do have the tapes.

I used to look down on strippers but now I respect them for at least being the one doing the playing, not the one being played!

[Elana]

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must suck to be seen and treated like a piece of meat.

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It was so empowering.....you have no idea. You guys may think you are running the show, but you are sadly mistaken.

[Phantom]

lol, another thread that went to hell /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif, there should be a forum section just for flaming /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

[Elana]

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I used to look down on strippers but now I respect them for at least being the one doing the playing, not the one being played!

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Thank you! BTW- We posted at the same time. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Elana]

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lol, another thread that went to hell /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif, there should be a forum section just for flaming /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

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Sorry Phantom, this subject always get\'s me wired. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[tallmacky]

read my seconed post on the first page, I got to stop hijacking (unintentional) aww well most threads wear their life out after 3-4 replies

[monesrule]

Oh, i have so much respect for strippers now. Truthfully, i think the guys in there are acting pathetic. Why let someone work you up without being able to bring you down? Also, don\'t you feel like you shouldn\'t have to pay for it? I don\'t its an ego thing.

I very much respect that at least strippers realize what females do to men is worth something. I don\'t care what anyone says, they have business sense, somethign that ththe airheads who don\'t parade around naked for random people don\'t.

In many senses, strippers are self-respecting they know their worth. Still, it is true about alot of them being unhappy, some of backgrounds of abuse, and in that sense i do not like how consumers capitilize off those instances.

[Andy]

Hey hey ... some of my best girl-friends are strippers and none of them is wrecked, or ill, or something. This might be right for hookers, but for sure not for strippers. Most of them do it because it\'s fun and you can earn a shitload of money with it. They enjoy playing with the people and their minds, that\'s it.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

The strippers are the smart ones. It\'s the GUYS who are addicted to lap dances and strip joints who I wonder about. Jesus. Find someone who really likes you that you don\'t have to pay to dance naked for you or give you a lap dance, for pete\'s sake. Intimacy issues, anyone?

Street whores, yeah, ok, there\'s substance abuse stuff going on and what not. Call girls? High end escort service type women? They\'re not stupid either, and not emotional wrecks any more than anyone else is. They make phenomenal money. Sometimes I wish I had the nerve.

[tallmacky]

They make good money so what, is that the excuse for everything, whether they think the guys are the losers in the situation it is them who are selling their bodies in one way or another, I am not saying every stripper falls in this category but its a previlent problem, just like not every person who forgot oh well.

Escort service, isn\'t that prostitution?

[Lucky]

Elana,
Did you find that lots of the men who were regulars at your club were shy, lonely, introspective...maybe unable to sustain real relationships requiring depth.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Yes, Tallmacky, that is prostitution. Instead of him buying you an expensive dinner and jewelry and etc etc etc, he pays you for sex and you cut to the chase. There is no illusion of relationship. It is a business transaction.

Does this also make people sick in the head, in your book?

[EXIT63]

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Elana,
Did you find that lots of the men who were regulars at your club were shy, lonely, introspective...maybe unable to sustain real relationships requiring depth.

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Hey, how did you know so much about me? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[monesrule]

not if you have one customer!

[EXIT63]

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Yes, Tallmacky, that is prostitution. Instead of him buying you an expensive dinner and jewelry and etc etc etc, he pays you for sex and you cut to the chase. There is no illusion of relationship. It is a business transaction.



Does this also make people sick in the head, in your book?

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<font color=\"pink\"> hmmm 200 now or 200,000 later </font>

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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Exit

[tallmacky]

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Yes, Tallmacky, that is prostitution. Instead of him buying you an expensive dinner and jewelry and etc etc etc, he pays you for sex and you cut to the chase. There is no illusion of relationship. It is a business transaction.

Does this also make people sick in the head, in your book?

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A few marbles must be loose for a women to give up any really carreer of her own, and instead be the fickel sex play toy for a rich guy. Is that a job that anyone is proud of, does it take its mental and physical tolls? I mean a escort is pretty much day in and day out having sex for money, problems will arise from that behavior, and I also question the women\'s motive for entering that type of job, I know they all like to say the money is so good but there is more to it, attention, \"love\" which stems from underlying problems and misunderstandings.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

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Yes, Tallmacky, that is prostitution. Instead of him buying you an expensive dinner and jewelry and etc etc etc, he pays you for sex and you cut to the chase. There is no illusion of relationship. It is a business transaction.

Does this also make people sick in the head, in your book?

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A few marbles must be loose for a women to give up any really carreer of her own, and instead be the fickel sex play toy for a rich guy. Is that a job that anyone is proud of, does it take its mental and physical tolls? I mean a escort is pretty much day in and day out having sex for money, problems will arise from that behavior, and I also question the women\'s motive for entering that type of job, I know they all like to say the money is so good but there is more to it.

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You don\'t just have sex. You have to know your client and be able to read him. SOmetimes you have to play out fantasies that you are not even the slightest bit interested in yourself. It is rarely arousing for the prostitute. She is a sex worker. Men project their fantasies on to her and she lives them out for them. YOU try it some time. It\'s work. It takes brains and imagination. There\'s nothing wrong with it. It\'s providing a service.

[tallmacky]

Brains and imagination? Isn\'t it the guys fantasy and isn\'t the guy creating the fantasy, the escort in that case is then the piece of meat for him to perform on.

[Lucky]

Exit,
Is it true?

[Whitehall]

I could imagine having quality sex with a woman that I\'ve paid but I know full well that it\'s unlikely to happen. \"Sex workers\" have to maintain a separation from their employers - that intimacy barrier is necessary to maintain their own sense of self; otherwise, they\'ll just dissolve in the parade of clients. There may be some women who will only trick on rare occassions when the spirit moves them that bring a good attitude to it but I\'ve yet to meet them.

One aspect of sex that I really enjoy is the breakdown of barriers between a man and a woman. A sex worker may take off her clothes but she can let down her guard only at her peril.

OK, so I\'ve tried it once. She was an attractive and clean woman but those barriers were just so strong and the time together so commercial (\"Aren\'t you done yet?\" she gripped) that I thought of complaining to Ralph Nader.

Dancers seem to enjoy the attention and getting a rise out of a guy but they still do it for the money. Many run around thinking \"This is not the real me; I\'ll quit soon.\"

Either way, the female has to tolerate some degree of de-personalization but can\'t let it get out of hand. The strong ones with strong barriers make some money, the weak ones who let down their barriers get messed up - pimps or drugs typically.

Personally, I don\'t waste my money - there are plenty of fine 40-somethings out there looking for a man like me.

[monesrule]

Thank you whitehall.

Time and time again you hear prostitutes say \"i go to another place\" when they are having sex with Johns. They rely on totally desensitizing themselves from the experience, otherwise they could not survive it.

it just shows you how different sex is for men and women (emotional vs. physical, we could never escape like that) and how developed their imaginations are.

[CptKipling]

Back on topic...

I would definately add more -none, but then thats just to fix the mix...

What really needs fixing is the way you deal with the women. I dont know how many &amp;@%£ing times i have to say it /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


YOU HAVE TO ACT THE PART YOUR SYNTHETIC DOSE OF PHEROMONES SAYS YOU SHOULD BE PLAYING. I YOUR PHEROMONES SAY YOU ARE ALPHA BUT YOU KEEP YOUSELF TO YOURSELF, SHE WILL JUST GET CONFUSED AND FIND SOMEONE ELSE! BE VERY OUTGOING, START CONVERSATIONS, KINO (TOUCHING), MAKE JOKES, BE THE CENTER OF ATTENTION!!


Phew!!

Maybe we can get that in the sticky.

[franki]

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YOU HAVE TO ACT THE PART YOUR SYNTHETIC DOSE OF PHEROMONES SAYS YOU SHOULD BE PLAYING. I YOUR PHEROMONES SAY YOU ARE ALPHA BUT YOU KEEP YOUSELF TO YOURSELF, SHE WILL JUST GET CONFUSED AND FIND SOMEONE ELSE! BE VERY OUTGOING, START CONVERSATIONS, KINO (TOUCHING), MAKE JOKES, BE THE CENTER OF ATTENTION!!


Phew!!

Maybe we can get that in the sticky.

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Whew, you are right there Captain.

We should make a summary of the Cookbook etc and put it in the sticky thread. Maybe a nice job for you Kipling? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Franki /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[CptKipling]

Yeah i would do that, needs an update after all! Wonder what happened to Nimbus?

[franki]

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Either way, the female has to tolerate some degree of de-personalization but can\'t let it get out of hand. The strong ones with strong barriers make some money, the weak ones who let down their barriers get messed up - pimps or drugs typically.



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A real good prostitute enjoys her work (to certain lenghts). It is not a fairytale that there ARE those that don\'t do it for the money, albeit a (very) small minority.

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[Whitehall]

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A real good prostitute enjoys her work

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Maybe you can share your extensive experience and tells us how to pick out a good one BEFORE one lays out the money?

[**DONOTDELETE**]

It\'s generally not a sexual enjoyment, though. It\'s the enjoyment of having sexual power and control. The rest, as with dancers, is acting. A real good prostitute is a real good actress.

[monesrule]

agreed, but for prositutes, not strippers, dominmatrixes, don\'t u think it is more about going through the motions and surviving rather than power?

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I have only been to a strip club once, but when i did i was wearing a pheromone product that i found before i knew about love scent. It was like three years ago. I really didn\'t want to go but i decided i would go. Well i went to the bathroom and applied my pheromones. I really wasn\'t into the whole strip club thing you know because i don\'t want to just watch, but one stripper particularly just wouldn\'t keep her hands off me. It was like one of my buddies was tipping her and then she totally focused on me. I had on an Polo shirt and she slides her hands down my chest and just starts rubbing my chest which is muscaular. THEN she says i don\'t know why but i just can\'t keep my hands of you, she moves her head in close to my neck and shes like omg its your cologne. LOL well you know i knew what was going on the whole time and i never really had to tip any of the strippers because they even wanted to touch me while i wasn\'t even paying attention. That was one of my first hits using pheromones!

[franki]

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A real good prostitute enjoys her work

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Maybe you can share your extensive experience and tells us how to pick out a good one BEFORE one lays out the money?

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I probably have more experience than you on this terrain, but I wouldn\'t call it \"extensive experience\". /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I don\'t think this is the right forum to talk about these things ... From what I understand it generally is not the best looking girl (or should I say woman?) that gives you the best experience.

Franki

[tallmacky]

I see what you are saying franki, just like women may say the \"smaller\" man works harder in bed, in essence making of for their short comings.

[proteus]

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If any guys have had experiences with strippers please come forward, by no means are these girls bad people at all. Many of these girls have been molested or raped at an early age and have problems with men, whether its a want for love or a hatred, we are not guided in life by coincidients instead our subconcious pulls and pushes us in directions which we think we are \"just here. My friends brother is a DJ at a strip club in Syracuse, he tells us accurate details of just how the girls are, with their high end emotional problems and so on, he never said they were bad people by any means. I have a knack for saying the completely wrong thing or something that people would like to beat my ass for, I am going to totally cut back on that.
People usually have jobs based on \"what they like\" to a certain degree. You certainly would not call a prostitute free and clean of all emotional problems.

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Have heard much of the same about strippers, prostitutes and porn stars - many are emotional wrecks with very low self esteem. But I guess there are some who actually like the business and more power to them.

[Andy]

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From what I understand it generally is not the best looking girl (or should I say woman?) that gives you the best experience.

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I guess there is no difference to \"real-life\" then. I have no idea about prostitutes, but what I\'ve learned is that there\'s a wide gap between cute and hot girls. Girls that are just cute the one way or another are generally more fun to be and to have sex with. Hot girls are often sooo stiff and unnatural.

[franki]

With \"hot\", you mean the perfect 10s? Or the girls that think they have it all?

[Andy]

I\'ve been reffering to girls that I\'d rate 8 and up. You might use them as a status symbol in case you like to, but in most cases it\'s just not fun to be with them. It\'s not even fun to be in the same room with a girl that thinks she has it all. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Visit me in the Delta one day and I\'ll show you what I mean franki /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

[franki]

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You might use them as a status symbol in case you like to, but in most cases it\'s just not fun to be with them. It\'s not even fun to be in the same room with a girl that thinks she has it all. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif.

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Well, it might be a good match for me to have a girl that is just as vain as I am. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Delta? I thought there were only kiddies there? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif You show me.

Franki /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MOBLEYC57]

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With \"hot\", you mean the perfect 10s? Or the girls that think they have it all?

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What\'s a Perfect 10? A pretty face, a good body, what? I hear people saying someone is beautiful, gorgeous, pefect, but all I see is a pretty face, or boobs, and no as$. I hate it when they take those pills...noassatall!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif I\'m sorry...a pretty face with an as$ flatter than 2 day old open beer is just that...a pretty face. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif I look at a pretty face with a pancaker, and it makes me want to dail 911, cause she\'s been robbed!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

WHATEVER!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Andy]

@Franki

It depends on the day you are there, they opened up a new area for ppl 25 and up ... kewl hunting grounds /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif But the average age in the main area is more balanced now too.

@Mobley

There is nothing like a P10 for me ... at least I haven\'t seen a girl that would meet this category for me. I wouldn\'t rate a woman without some nice ass more than 6, because it\'s so important to me. It\'s a 6 with a pretty face then /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif. But inner values become more and more important to me the older I get, I don\'t want a 8ish 9ish doll that\'s unable to fool around and have real fun. The girl I\'d go for has to have the special something. It might be a 7 or even a 6 (not the small assed ones though /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ), that doesn\'t matter.

[Lucky]

Andy and Franki,
With your rating system, do you factor in whether the girl is fun or not, has a brain, etc., or is she ranked solely because of her looks?

[franki]

The rating is for looks only I think. Like Andy says, it is only a part of the package.

Franki /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Andy]

Yup .. this rating is looks only, at least for me. A gorgeous 9 stays a gorgeous 9 even if she\'s completely insane /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Lucky]

Assuming you boys are young and unmarried, if you consider marriage, how will you rate your choices? What factors will be most important?

[franki]

Ouch, I don\'t want to consider marriage yet... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Franki

[monesrule]

A beautiful face is the greatest thing in the world!!! What\'s the big deal about a smaller ass if you have someone that georgeous to look at and kiss, and give you a BJ.

Marriage:
A beautiful face a prereq.
Uncorrupted by her beauty, understands its powers and uses it to make those around her feel better about themselves.
Intelligent (not necessarily book smart or street wise, moe perceptive.
Empathetic, more importantly to just people\'s feelings in general, not me
No turn offs - like wears ugly ass clothes (this would really fall into the perceptive category).
Shows me the respect I deserve.

You take away the beauty, if she is still good looking, then GF material. If she isn\'t, sorry, just a friend

Take away the character, then she is just a fling of GF for sex.

[Elana]

I take it you are not an ass man, monesrule. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Sounds like a man with Venus in Libra. That\'s cool, too. The pretty faces need to be loved...

[Sexyredhead]

Monesrule, I hope you have everything to match up to that perfect woman you just described. What if you find her and she doesn\'t want YOU? If she\'s everything you want her to be, she may want a guy who doesn\'t put so much importance on her visual appearance.

How old are you? I have a feeling your list will change (a LOT) to match the personality you eventually fall for.

In the meantime, good luck finding her. You\'ll probably be a while hunting.

[Elana]

He is just being honest. There is nothing wrong with needing to be physically attracted to someone as well as love their character.

[Sexyredhead]

I know, Elana. There\'s absolutely nothing wrong with being attracted to the person you\'re in love with. It\'s the emphasis on her looks that bothers me. I\'ve seen a lot of young guys with pretty much that same list, miss out on a lot of great girls because they\'re maybe a 7 instead of a 9 or 10. And I\'ve also seen that list get changed, rearranged, or just thrown out when a guy finally meets that girl he wants to end up with.

Maybe I misunderstood what he meant, but it seemed to me that her looks were more important to him than anything else. Especially where he said if she was just pretty, she\'d be gf material, but only a beauty for a wife. It just sounds pretty shallow to me.

I apologize if I misunderstood.

[Elana]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What he considers beautiful may not be what Andy or Franki consider beautiful. What bothers me is the number scale. When men say that they won\'t date anyone that is less than a 7 or whatever. That comes off as completely shallow. The number catagory is just based on looks and doesn\'t factor in the woman\'s character. I took monesrules thread, as a guy looking for the total package, not just a pretty face.

[monesrule]

Sexy Redhead. Do you realize what the essense of marriage is? YOUR ONE AND ONLY!!!!

Does anyone expect to find that one person so quickly? What marriage has the potential to be is not trivial to me. Furthermore, I welcome rejection, especially if it is based on looks. I feel confident that I can provide what a woman needs empootionally, intellectually, but as far as looks, that is out of my court. And it is totally their right to just not be physically attracted to me, and I wll never pursue it. I use looks as a criteria, so why not welcome judgement in that category. I don\'t always get what I want, so why can\'t I be picky to.

I am an assman and boobman, and well, it is more about the shape of the female body that I love. But nothing inspires me like a beautiful face.

And there are women with what I have described. They are very special, so why not hold out for one? It will make for so much of a better marriage experience then settling for a partner that I can\'t stop looking into her eyes or that I can\'t stand her insensitivity, bad taste, or stupidity. I\'d like someone i can trust to help me raise my kids. I am 23.

[monesrule]

good point, your version of pretty maybe beautiful to me. You have to understand that looks are an emotional experience to men. Chemicals are released that are the same ones that get released when you are hungry and when you are high (for those of you..). That feeling is important to have, and it just can\'t be brought about by female who is good looking.

Here\'s a simpler way of looking at it: If you see another girl that you do not immediately compare to your GF (she\'s hot but not as hot as), then you haven\'t found the one. Who needs to go through marriage even dealing with temptation. Get someone that no one compares to. And you can get that, it just requires patience.

[Sexyredhead]

Then I misunderstood your other post, and I apologize.

[monesrule]

that\'s ok

[Elana]

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Here\'s a simpler way of looking at it: If you see another girl that you do not immediately compare to your GF (she\'s hot but not as hot as), then you haven\'t found the one. Who needs to go through marriage even dealing with temptation. Get someone that no one compares to. And you can get that, it just requires patience.

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Does her personality factor into her beauty? Does a sweet, warm, kind woman appear more physically attractive?

[monesrule]

it improves attraction just like someone who isn\'t nice makes their physical beauty fall away.

however, a warm personality does not affect the physical beauty. I mean, i am into things like shapes of her eyes, color, shape of face and structure. I think it is beautful on a non-sexual level, and it is really about the asthetics and how they make you feel. I am sorry, I know all this can sound shallow, but visual stimuli in men cuase chemicals in your brain to get released and give you an emotional response. I hate discriminating, but I love that feeling.

[Elana]

You don\'t have to apologize. I am rather picky when it comes to men I am sexually attracted too. Most people are.

[Andy]

Everybody who\'s telling me that looks are totally unimportant is just not beeing honest, at least he/she is lying to him/herself, or maybe a customer of \"lowered expectations\" (remember mad-tv?) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

I am taking my sex too serious to mess around with somebody that I am not attracted too and this includes a nice ass and a mouth I like /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif. I might cheat on her otherwise later, no matter how much I like or even love her. So I have to set up a kind of filter system that becomes more narrow every step.

wide range filter : ass and mouth
narrowing level one : face and overall looks
narrowing level two : smartness, is she fun to be with?
final filter level : all about her character

This sequence is quite important.

1.What would *I* do with someone I am not sexually attracted to? -&gt; next one.
2.What would I do with someone that repels me? -&gt; next one

The last two points are of importance later on, because you can hardly judge about them in short time.

3.I don\'t want to see the back of the skull when I look into the eyes of my partner (no brain no pain, huh?). I don\'t wanna be with someone that lost every sense of humor and/or beeing childish from times to times during puberty.

4.Though this is the last point it\'s definitely the most important point of all, but you just can\'t see the character of a person in a short time period. It might take years or even decades.


Ahh ... *push-in* .... I\'ve forgotten the smell .. I have to love the smell of a girl ... It\'s kinda hard in times of deodorants and anti-persipants ... so I have to make her sweat really bad. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[monesrule]

i am a big believer in very little everyday things that maybe go unnoticed can reveal a lot. those things can help you pickup on how seriously to take someone. If not, at least they got an ass and mouth.

[Andy]

I don\'t start anything before the 3rd filter. Btw. this is not a kind of checklist I am thinking about all day long. It was just an analysis of my actual behavior.

[MOBLEYC57]

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@Mobley

There is nothing like a P10 for me ... at least I haven\'t seen a girl that would meet this category for me. I wouldn\'t rate a woman without some nice ass more than 6, because it\'s so important to me. It\'s a 6 with a pretty face then /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif. But inner values become more and more important to me the older I get, I don\'t want a 8ish 9ish doll that\'s unable to fool around and have real fun. The girl I\'d go for has to have the special something. It might be a 7 or even a 6 (not the small assed ones though /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ), that doesn\'t matter.

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As you get older, a lot of things will change. When I was younger, I wouldn\'t be caught 5 feet of a woman with cellulite (spelling), but now it doesn\'t matter. I see all the comments about being shallow, wanting this, when you should be wanting that, you shouldn\'t go by looks, yudder yudder yudder. The bottom line is...YOU have to chose what makes YOU HAPPY...shallow or not. If you\'re into beauty, and you accept less than what makes you happy...what\'s the final outcome? You got it! Either you\'re going to be verrrrrrrrrrry unhappy, or someone\'s gonna get a broken heart. PERIOD. I see people drooling over people that\'s not their mate (male and female) all the time. Like I always say...if my rose is like \"\"\"I\"\"\" want it, I\'ll never have a reason to look into the neighbor\'s yard. I\'ve seen people with their woman/man, and staring at others. Disrepectful as it is...what they have is not what they want if they disrespect their mate like that. I\'m a ass man! Guess what\'s going to happen should I settle for a woman with a pancaker! You got it! I\'ll be watching every non-pancaker that passes by, and wishing! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif That\'s not good. Each and everyone of us has the right to be happy, people always say that looks shouldn\'t be a factor, but none of them would date Frankenstein or Frankenstein\'s sister! Some would if they had money, but that\'s another story. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Andy]

Word Mobley /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[MOBLEYC57]

True dat!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Elana]

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Like I always say...if my rose is like \"\"\"I\"\"\" want it, I\'ll never have a reason to look into the neighbor\'s yard.

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Double word /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[MOBLEYC57]

Double True dat!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Actually, I always kinda liked Frankenstein, poor monster.

[Lucky]

&lt;I\'ve seen people with their woman/man, and staring at others. Disrepectful as it is...&gt;

THIS INFURIATES ME, NO MATTER WHO IS DOING IT!
Triple Word, Mobley.

[Lucky]

&lt;like wears ugly ass clothes&gt;


How funny, monesrule. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I think that\'s peculiar to Mobley, who is a romantic.

Most other guys, once they know you, they want variety. It\'s like, ok, been there done that ... NEXT!

Or maybe it\'s just me... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[Lucky]

All I am saying is *just don\'t do it in front of me*. How rude!!! Take me to the car and tie me into the seat, then go carry on...I shouldn\'t have to take it personally.

[MOBLEYC57]

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I think that\'s peculiar to Mobley, who is a romantic.

Most other guys, once they know you, they want variety. It\'s like, ok, been there done that ... NEXT!

Or maybe it\'s just me... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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No, it\'s not just you....butttttt women do that too. I once had a girlfriend that always watch other men. I never said anything, just kept observing. I figured she was just sizing up her next victim. Once I asked her not to stare at other people while she\'s with me, and her response was...\"there are a lot of good looking guys out there, and I\'m gonna look.\" My response...whatever blows your hair back, but do you mind not doing that while you\'re riding, or sitting beside me.\" Hellooooooooooo! Then as soon as I look in one direction, she\'d pick out someone and say I was staring. Thing is, she\'d pick out someone with big breast assuming that all men liked big breast (I\'m a nibble man! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif), annnnnd they\'d be obese and taking those pills...noassatall! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Now, I will date an obese person, but my rule is, they have to be shapely and they can\'t be double-bootied...booty in the front and booty in the back. The rear has to be larger than the front. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Anyway, it rude as hell to be with someone and stare at someone else!!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif When I want variety...I get it in the bath tub, or on the kitchen table, on the floor, standing up, laying down, play police and search her body with her hands against the wall, on the couch, on the washing machine, on the porch, add some honey, add some cool whip, strawberries, blind fold, chocolate,...yudder yudder yudder, but! Everybody\'s not Mobley, so I only speak for myself. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif