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Bubu
05-04-2003, 09:35 AM
OK, Couple of times on this forum while ago, and just now, thing was raised,
That pherromones in Sweden, on Sweds, have some interesting responses, more to say, no responses.

I do not think, that pheromones here changing their ability, or smell, or Sweds are some OTHER sort of folks, that resists pherromones.

Therefore, I would like to give my opinion here, so, please , correct me if i am wrong.

1. Pherromones DOES work, just moral and social behaver here is more strict and cold, that prohibits to show in some way, that one are interesting in one.
2. Confrontation in any way between two strangers is strongly NOT reccomended here, even eye contact. (See \"Body Language\", straight eye contact longer than 3-5 seconds is confrontation), so eye contact reduced allmost to zero.
Althou, when stangers are drunk, it will become better..
3. Eye contact, Showing feelings, Showing interest, Flirting may be just and only between two people , that allredy know each other. Well, sometimes, to introduce someone, will do the job.
4. Even if you would OD ten times more than catsand, NOBODY, NOBODY will show it in any way, just will try to ignore you. And ignore you big time.
5. Making friends \"on a fly\" is IMMPOSIBLE in Stockholm, if You are not a tourist.

From here:
1. Less -none mix for not to show Your \"alfa\" too much. Do not confrontate = no -none.
2. Pherromones shows their power between people, that You allredy know (!).
Invite sometarget to cafeeteria, there, quiet and simple, introduce Your mix.
3. Go to pub WITH FRIENDS, when a girl see You arround your friends, and that You are not LoneWolf, than things will roll better.
4. Best use of pherromones is NOT on blind-date.
She must see You arround somehow long enought to feel confortable with You.
5. Again, -nol heavy mix on a first date / first flirtground. Than, -none, if this needed.
6. Your mix initially must have a trace of -none, otherwice, Folk will se You as \"not worth a talk\" , or like a \"waiter person\" .
7. Be individual, have Your own style, but do not overdo it!

Hey, folks from Sweden, Your answer is important here.
PM me if You need!

Yours, Bubu

ironration
05-04-2003, 10:17 AM
Well I live here too, and I can testify that you are right /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif It is really strange, Swedish people are generally not very religious, and have no strict sexual morals at all. However, at the same time we are cold to people we do not know (except when we are drunk, or travelling).

The solution must be to travel around, drunk /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

CJ01
05-04-2003, 11:43 AM
Thanks bubu. What you wrote is a `guideline for guys right? Do you reckon that the same applies for a woman?

I´m kinda pleased actually because you say not to use to much -none. And that was my conclusion also - more nol that none and cops. good thinking ey. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

PS I don´t like people staring me out or at me either. I agree that if someone makes eye contact for too long is not nice at all. hey maybe I have swedish blood and never knew /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif .

CJ /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bubu
05-04-2003, 12:03 PM
Thanks, CJ!
Well, \"guidelines\" is a strong word for this assey /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif .
Just trying to bring out my thoughts about problem. Untill now it seems to work on me.

Of course, my Pretty Ladyes, I bring my appologies to all of You, Our Sweet Flowers of Life, This is a point to start from For You allso.

Thanks!

Just now I mixed some potential batches to test and try. If I will come alife in one peace from testing them, shell I post them? Is someone interested?

/Bubu

CJ01
05-04-2003, 12:31 PM
Yes bubu please post and let us know /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
If you want you can add it to the thread I had started on the womens´ forum. I was asking about swedish `victims´ back then. that would be great. CJ /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

What chance would a single foreign woman have do you think? I mean what kind of reactions would I possibly get as a foreign woman who doesn´t speak swedish etc wearing a good phero combo?

Bubu
05-04-2003, 12:36 PM
CJ, Things are different for women tourist. Such things, as flirting and getting friends, are easier. But FOR JVK\'S SAKE, BE WERY CARREFUL!
Good Luck !

Watcher
05-04-2003, 12:36 PM
It does seem regional differences get different cultural responses. Ok might want to try apply to youre noggin (head) and see how that goes - 4 drops of youre mix, then ruffle or run hand through hair to disperse and you should get up to 10 hours.

CJ01
05-04-2003, 12:55 PM
bubu, JVK - you mean James v Khol, what´s he got to do with swedish men and women?

I don´t imagine that swedes are any better or worse (night time or daytime) acquaintances than any other ones are they?

Bubu
05-04-2003, 01:02 PM
someone (FTR I think) was saying: \" JVK is a G*d of pherromones \", Just was joking
I AM NOT FUNNY, I KNOW THAT ALLREDY! :-

franki
05-04-2003, 01:06 PM
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someone (FTR I think) was saying: \" JVK is a G*d of pherromones \", Just was joking
I AM NOT FUNNY, I KNOW THAT ALLREDY! :-

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CJ01
05-04-2003, 01:31 PM
Rightt hen, JVK is god. Okay. What´s Bruce though, Zeus, Apollo, Neptune, Hercules... ? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bubu
05-04-2003, 10:55 PM
They live in one big Vallhalla, place all Gods live, sometimes they coming to us , to punish, and so one..
Vallhalla divided to zones and circles.
Zone 1 : NoneZone-- Zeus, Tor, Azazel*o, Bruce, JVK(Bataljon commander), mixed..
Zone 2 : NolZone-- Neptune, Tammy, Afrodite, Hermafrodite, Bee Elana, etc
Zone 3 : ShadowZone-- allso called Andro1Zone -- FTR, Watcher, DrSmellThis, franki, CJ- You are somwere here too.
Circles is how everyone comes close to Bataljon Commander.
Bataljon Commander His Magesty JVK
UnderCommander His Happiness Bruce and Adjutant Tammy
Commander of All BattleFields Zeus and Her Magesty Q. of FMClub Elana

Adjutant of BattleFields Commanders FTR
Moderator of His Majesty and PeaceKeeper franki
Highest SmellKeeper DrSmellThis
and so one, and so one..
Leytenant of the Girl Power Squad CJ01
..
Privat Soldat LongThinking Bubu, aka Alex.

Right?

**DONOTDELETE**
05-05-2003, 02:37 AM
Yes, Bubu, absolutely.

CJ01
05-05-2003, 07:43 AM
I want my swede !

Bubu
05-05-2003, 09:26 AM
Excuse me, CJ, would You like to explain Your sentence?

Do You want it whole, or just a part of it, what, like, right now, or maybe later, fresh and raw, or grilled and under the sauce?

CJ01
05-05-2003, 01:43 PM
&gt;I want my sexy, horny Swede WHOLE, RAW, FRESH and totally gagging for me so I can grill it until the juice comes gushing out /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif ( sigh)
CJ

biteme
05-05-2003, 01:56 PM
Hi Bubu and ironration.

Out of curiosity, have you guys tried wearing only -NOL?

I\'m not an expert by any means. But if Swedish culture is rather \"cold\", then maybe a TON of -NOL would help?

Might be worth it to wear only -NOL to see what happens. Or, if you guys want, a TON of -NOL and just tiny tiny bit of -NONE. I mean like one single small dab of NPA/m on your neck. And the -NOL spread out between the sides of your neck and your wrists, etc.

OR, a ton of -NOL and a bit of WAGG. If I remember correctly, one of you guys mentioned you\'ve tried WAGG.

The point being, if you get chattiness out of people while wearing only -NOL, then you know at the very least that -NOL works. Then you can experiement w/how much -NONE to use to get the sexual responses. Becareful w/wearing too much SOE, however. IMHO, you can fragrance OD on it. Its happened to me before. Even w/just six inches from the roll on. But that was during the hot summer and I was sweating quite a bit when it happened.

Just a thought. Sorry if I\'m mentioning a technique you guys have already tried out. I\'ve been gone from the boards for a while.

Watcher
05-05-2003, 06:28 PM
Well what is the \"shadowzone\" that im being placed into.

On the Nol and WAGG sounds like a good idea try it out and let us know how it went. MIX#1 is always an option to.

Bubu
05-06-2003, 12:06 AM
To biteme:
Thanks for Yo attenton. Yes, I had tryed only -nol (there is a limit how big ton is can be..). PIw was not making any difference, because when people are \"cold\" they allways have this \"nice pocker face\", so everyone is nice to me anyway. But, chattines, cuddlines- well, it was not in beeg change. Same with SOE, but a little better.
Folks here trying to \"mind their own bisness\", and not many will \"open\" him- or herself to the stranger.

To Watcher:

I said, that I AM NOT FUNNY!
\"ShadowZone\" is a Pantheon for Scientists and Magitians.

Yes, of course, MIX#1!We all know the ingredients..
I will try it sometime in a future.

My own experimental mix showing good results with WAGG,
AE:SOE:PIw:WAGG:ThGlicerine
in parts: 1:2:1:1:3
It seems, that -rone and WAGG does much trics here..

CJ01
05-06-2003, 11:11 AM
How well does AE go down in sweden bubu? I´m asking cause it´s one of my fave products.
I can also imagine that AFA would work well. It´s become my main phero these last few months.

ironration
05-06-2003, 11:38 AM
I have used AE alot without any noticible hits. Like the smell though. I dont think pheroes is the solution in Sweden, we need to replace the people.

CJ01
05-06-2003, 12:25 PM
ironation, I think replaced at least half of the human race would be a good thing. Dunno about the swedish, I mean they can´t be better or worse than any other people. I heard they´re nice to do business with though.

Well I will try my AFA+PCC mix if I get the opportunity.

Whitehall
05-06-2003, 01:19 PM
Looks like I\'ll be doing business with the Finns in the near future. Are they much like the Swedes?

ironration
05-06-2003, 08:49 PM
Yes. But they are even less talkative /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif But if you do business with them you probably wont even notice it, it is in private sphere with regards to strangers that we/they are cold.

Actually, come to think about it, I am not really sure about Finish people, maybe it is just a stereotype in my head /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bubu
05-06-2003, 10:57 PM
CJ, and everyone!
ironration is a good in social skills, he wold understand people better that I am.

Anyway, I got tired of whearing pherros unsystemmaticaly.
From now on, I would do little research of mine, based on my \"lucky\" mix and theory.
I am sure, that after some month or two I will find answers to my questions, and may-be it will solve this \"Swedephero\" problem.

Once in a while, I will post results from research, do You, folks, thinks that this would be interesting?

/Bubu (Alex)

monesrule
05-07-2003, 05:35 AM
yea

Alquimista
05-20-2003, 04:30 PM
Guys from Sweden and Northern Europe:
Now I agree with your statement that girls from your area doesn\'t show so often when they are interested in a guy, and this makes difficult the use of mones in your area /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif.
In my college there is this chick from Norway that I closed the deal with (I got her home phone number), after I realized that she was giving me buying signals in . You see, by her body language she is not interested in me, but because I learned , I catched her /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. Tomorrow we are going to dinner out and then bowling: which me good-luck because this is my first time playing with a Nordic chick. By the way, what is the mix of mones that you guys recommend me? I was thinking just 4 drops of AE... what do you guys suggest me?

Bubu
05-20-2003, 11:11 PM
Well done!
What it is ?
Do not put -none so much!
I\'ll suggest 2drop AE + 1drop SOE +1drop PIw + 1drop WAGG.
Or more ammount in this proportion.
GLck! /Bubu

Alquimista
05-21-2003, 06:46 AM
Bubu,
Then, my sources of nol just finished yesterday!! I ordered already some more SOE, g and roll on, but I will receive it only friday. So I was thinking because AE has both none and nol, I guess I will use it standalone - 4 drops. Do you think this can substitute this your \"Nordic mix\"?? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
, is the language of woman. According to the Doc, when a woman speaks she don\'t tell exactly what is going on her head, she speaks kind of in code. For example whe she says:
1)\"we are not the same type\" is for \"you are not rich\"
2)\"I will be ready in 30 minutes\" is for \"I\'ll be ready in 2 hours\"
3)\"we had an amicable divorce\" is for \"I took all his money and left him homeless\"
4)\"we broke up\" is for \"i dumped him\"
...and so on...
This chick, one day she saw me on the cafeteria of my college dancing Samba in front of everybody with 2 beautiful chicks, and I guess that she saw me as a confident man, and since that day she always says to me that I am the International Student that is always looking for girls. Monday she asked me in \"Why didn\'t you call me last weekend? I was waiting for your phone call all weekend long\" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

monesrule
05-21-2003, 08:34 AM
that\'s not , that\'s english

CJ01
05-21-2003, 01:30 PM
that´s not english either, it´s bullsh*t.

tallmacky
05-21-2003, 02:10 PM
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that´s not english either, it´s bullsh*t.

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ahhhhh come on CJ01 wow your name sounds like an android! I believe in womenese, I am not very fluent either, you speak it at all please share the secrets.

Skyy
05-21-2003, 02:55 PM
That was funny. Someone should make a dictionary.

Alquimista
05-23-2003, 06:40 AM
Bubu,
You have to help me on this one. O.K., I called the Norwain chick monday and we were supposed to go out wednesday night. Well wednesday I was buying some m&amp;m\'s at my college and she showed up and I just felt my stomach cold. 20 seconds later I understood I was feeling my stomach cold: broken date!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif. Ok, she asked me \"tonight you pick me up at 7 pm?\" I said yes. Then she asked the most stupid question that I ever heard from a woman: \"are we going out as a date or as friends??\" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. This was a curve ball, so I was without words for one second. Then I just said \"excuse me?\" and she said \"it is because right now I am KIND OF dating another guy\". Then I just said to her \"well so let it be for another opportunity, when you wil be free\", and I said goodbye and I disappeared. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Well yesterday at night I was alking to the college to night class and we met again. So I asked her \"what are you doing on this long weekend?\" and she said that she had nothing to do so probably she would be studying. So I took this sentence and I dropped to her a neghit. Then she said \"when are you going to invite me to your house to cook some food there? I can cook some bacalao!\" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif And I said \"You know what, today my parents went to Chicago, so i am home alone\" and she asked for how long \"I said one week\", and you guys had to see the big smile on her face and her eyes sparkling /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. Then she said that her friend, a 7/10 chick from Belgium is always asking for me, so they 2 would come to my house tonight to cook and just chillin.
Now this is the thing: I don\'t know no more if this chick likes me at all, or if she just want to take some fun with my money and food this weekend, or if she is trying to set me up with her friend (I have to admit, her friend is hot!!). So what do you suggest me? I have no experience at all with nordic chicks... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

P.S: BTW, she never stops to compliment me that I know a lot of people, I am a party guy, etc.

Charisma
05-23-2003, 07:28 AM
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Well I live here too, and I can testify that you are right It is really strange, Swedish people are generally not very religious, and have no strict sexual morals at all. However, at the same time we are cold to people we do not know (except when we are drunk, or travelling).

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Even though The Netherlands is not part of Scandinavia, the roots of the Dutch are Germanic/Teutonic too. Maybe that\'s why I\'ve got the same responses overhere - they must be braindead! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Anyway, I\'ll increase the doses of my PI experiments before I\'ll go for the -nol /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

franki
05-23-2003, 07:49 AM
Charisma, the dutch are the friendliest and most open-minded people in the world. At least that is what they think of themselves. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Seriously, I think the Dutch are quite a bit different than Swedes or Norwegians in that they don\'t have this scandinavian type of closedness.

Charisma
05-23-2003, 09:27 AM
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Charisma, the dutch are the friendliest and most open-minded people in the world. At least that is what they think of themselves.

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Yeah, and they think a lot more of themselves... But open? Pfff, my @$$ /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Seriously, I think the Dutch are quite a bit different than Swedes or Norwegians in that they don\'t have this scandinavian type of closedness.

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Well Franki, I think you\'ve been for too long out of the country. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Try Amsterdam for a while, damn those people really suck! I\'ve worked in the center of the city for nearly three years and I really saw people closing up. A friend (girl) of mine - who came back to Amsterdam after staying 10 years in the US - asked me: \"What the hell happened here? Americans have the universal prejudice of acting shallow (what\'s a hoax by the way), but boy has Amsterdam changed!\"

CJ01
05-23-2003, 10:07 AM
The last ten years - since the 80´s people have changed EVERYWHERE. Things have gone from pretty cool, easygoing, laidback, tolerant and colourful to self centered, arrogant, cold, permanently-pissed-off for some reason. (I could go on..)
What happened? I dunno!

I reckon the swedish are quiete different from the dutch too. They´re a bit more reserved perhaps. The dutch do tend to be a bit more outgoing and willing to make the move in terms of approaching strangers, making contact etc.
But maybe I´m wrong?
CJ

Elana
05-23-2003, 12:24 PM
CJ- Are you officially bi yet?

Alquimista
05-23-2003, 01:44 PM
Folks, I guess I have a big game going on with this Norwayan chick. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Ok, today I went to college as always, with half of SOEg, and again I met her. Because I have a soccer game at afternoon with my buddies, I told her that \"our cooking class\" with the Belgium chick was cancelled, and I counteroffer to be tomorrow. Then she asked \"it will be only me and you?\" (another curve ball) and I laugh with all my teeth and then I said \"no, yesterday we agreed that you are bringing the Belgium chick, and I will bring my brother; also I am not impolite enough to destroy your relationship with your date\". She laugh loudly, and she said Ok, and asked for my home phone number.
Then I got nasty, and I asked her \"what about your date? I guess there is no man in the world that would like to spend a saturday night without his girlfriend...\", and she gave me the most surprising answer: \"Actually that guys is not my boyfriend nor a date, he is just a friend. Wednesday I told you that I am dating, because the Belgium girls likes you so I don\'t want to betray her because she is my friend. She always says that you are very cute\". /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Now we are going to see tomorrow... she left in the air a smell that she also likes me, but she doesn\'t want to betray her friend. This all started that day that I was wearing that only drop of PI... I LOVE MY PI!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

CJ01
05-23-2003, 01:46 PM
Elena, no it´s no official (unlike FTR) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif I´m still waiting for YOU. No really, why this very strange change in subject, we´re talking about ..erm what was it again? and I´m a bit pissed ( again) - drinking an a pretty much empty stomach...(again) CJ:)

Bubu
05-24-2003, 02:31 AM
Alquimista,
This situation is good for You, I think.
I could suspect, that she is not yet interested in You. She is nice to You, and have hard time to say things straight, as they are. This is because she thinks, she is not knowing You well enought.
What You could do, is start with \"closeup\" date, strike long and meaningfull conversation , tex. about life, people, something neutral. I would whear SOE only, but for You PI seems to work well too. (or not, maybe her responce was not connected to PI).
DO THINGS SLOWLY AND UNOMEANIG! That is, she is not getting doublemeanings or undermeanings in conversations.
From the \"Bodily Communication\" book : Skandinavian region are not \"touchy\" type. We getting scarred, if You try to touch us, and we do not know You well!
Fysical touch, I mean.

Go and meet her. Or them both, (Belgian too), speack, show that You interested in them AS A PERSON first, than as a sexual being.

GLck again. / Bubu

EXIT63
05-24-2003, 05:16 AM
So what about the Swedish Bikini Team. They\'re not all frigid are they?

Alquimista
05-24-2003, 09:12 PM
Bubu,
I let those girls on \"freeze mode\". Yesterday the Norwaian called me invite me to go out with both of them, but I denied and I said that I was going to \"study maths\" all night long. But my maths study was in a pub with some friends, recruiting new chicks. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Today I was going to a grocerie store to buy some to eat, and I met both of them! Well, the Belgium chick came right in front of me and the Norwaian was on her back, but I did not pay special attention to none of them (in order to see which one truly likes me). Because tomorrow is the only day that I will be available as well nobody will be at my house, tonight I called the Norwaian to go out tomorrow night, but she was not at home. My stomach says me to put both of them on the \"freeze mode\". Instead, I am going to call tomorrow a mexican chick to show up on my apartment monday afternoon to \"cook some pasta\" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif.
P.S: I will try to follow your advice, but for now they are on freeze mode because I don\'t want \"attached strings\" with any of them. We should keep it professional... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

ironration
05-25-2003, 06:21 AM
The Swedish bikini team is not Swedish /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bubu
05-25-2003, 10:01 AM
ABBA is.

CJ01
05-25-2003, 10:28 AM
ABBA wore bikinis ? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif - PICS PICS /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Elana
05-25-2003, 10:34 AM
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ABBA wore bikinis ? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif - PICS PICS /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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And what kind of wine are we drinking today, CJ? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Bubu
05-25-2003, 10:48 AM
Nja, CJ, they did not wore bikini. By the way, \"Europe\" and \"Dr. Alban\" woren\'t bikini ether..

CJ01
05-25-2003, 11:13 AM
hehe /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

So there´s no pics of ABBA in bikins? what a shame /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif CJ /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

CJ01
05-25-2003, 12:30 PM
What about Roxette? I´m sure Per Gessele (is that right?) would look great in one /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif