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Thanatos
04-09-2003, 04:44 PM
While searching for a scent for the \'lil lady I came across this:

It says it has a blend of pheromones in it but they don\'t go into detail. This one is much more expensive than the usual bottle of LotV also. Anyone got any details? Is this a rip off?

**DONOTDELETE**
04-09-2003, 05:28 PM
What an interesting site! I\'ve never seen them before. I\'m going to email and see if she will say exactly what pheromones she\'s using.

$65.00 seems steep ... but supposedly it\'s very concentrated ... ?

The testimonials look promising...

Thanatos
04-09-2003, 06:13 PM
Guess I could have done that to. hehe
Let us know how it goes will ya? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
04-09-2003, 06:34 PM
I will. I just wrote to her and said she was likely to be deluged with mail and that we were pretty knowledgeable and sophisticated pheromone users who mixed different \'mones for different effects, so we would need to know which pheromones she uses in what concentrations in her colognes so we would know how to adjust our other \'mones accordingly.

I told her if she\'d write back to me I\'d post it and then we would not all email her with the same question over and over.

And for her to get her sample supply ready.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

koolking1
04-10-2003, 04:27 AM
Oh FTR, What a woman, so kind to the rest of us!!!

franki
04-10-2003, 06:37 AM
If that is a link to another pheromone selling site, I would have to delete it. I won\'t delete it (yet), because first we (read:FTR) have to find out what this is all about ....

Franki /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
04-10-2003, 06:56 AM
This is her response to me.

Greetings Renee,

Thanks for the mention. I am familiar with the Love Scent site.

We use 100% estratetraenol ( estra-1,3,5(10),16-tetraen-3-ol ) which is mixed with a small amount of 99% ethanol to attract men & 100% androstadienone ( 4,16-androstadien-3-one ) with a small amount of 99% ethanol to attract women. 1/2 ml per 1/3 ounce are contained in the perfume. These formulations are exactally the same as those used by UC-Berkeley in their olfactory experiments.This is a generous pheromone amount & more than enough to be effective.

The expense is a result of the laboratory certified manufacturer of our pheromones, a non alcohol base which doubles the life & staying power of our perfumes & the highest quality perfume ingredients. \"You get what you pay for\". I am sure most of the forum readers know that you can not get effective pheromones for $14.99.

As to the increase or decrease of pheromone formulas, I would suggest you do what I do which I find the most effective..use both estra. & andros. together. It tends to make the whole world smile with you & very effective if you work with both men & women.

Let us know if we can answer any other questions. We have a lot of research on pheromones which we can draw from if requested.

Best Regards,

Jane Langdon, President

House of Rose, LLC

You\'ll notice she advises mixing with products that she herself does not sell.

I don\'t think this site competes with
L-S - it more complements it than anything else, and that just for the women. Unless you guys are going to start wearing Lily of the Valley, Rose, and Carnation.

Thanatos
04-10-2003, 07:11 AM
Hmm, kinda torn on whether to get this for my SO or not. She does like to collect bottles and their collectors edition bottle doesnt sound to bad.
One point of confusion tho... estratetraenol = AndrosteNOL?
Couldn\'t find any reference to estratetraenol in the forums.
Thanks for getting the info FTR, Yer a doll. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
04-10-2003, 07:14 AM
No problem, my pleasure! Thanks for the link. I\'ve been looking for a pure carnation forever.

BassMan
04-10-2003, 07:14 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
We use 100% estratetraenol ( estra-1,3,5(10),16-tetraen-3-ol ) which is mixed with a small amount of 99% ethanol to attract men &amp; 100% androstadienone ( 4,16-androstadien-3-one ) with a small amount of 99% ethanol to attract women.

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Correct me if I\'m wrong, but aren\'t these folks using the chemistry covered by the Erox patents?

Thanatos
04-10-2003, 07:38 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Correct me if I\'m wrong, but aren\'t these folks using the chemistry covered by the Erox patents?

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Such as Realm for Men and Women?

Thanatos
04-10-2003, 07:40 AM
Cant find a whole lot of info on estratetraenol except that it is reported to be a sexual attractant to men. Although in the same report I read on that it also said that AndrosteNOL is a pig pheromone and that it had no effect on the human VNO. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
04-10-2003, 09:03 AM
ooo, would you post in Yo, Scientifical People about this.

I have no idea whether these are Realm folk or what.

CJ01
04-10-2003, 09:30 AM
I think a lot of perfume makers use pheros these days. I´ve found some places aa well as new mone products. I let Bruce know about them a short while ago but I don´t know if he´s gone and checked themout yet.

pass
04-10-2003, 11:54 AM
House of Rose,LLC does not use pheromones covered by the Erox patent. <font color=\"brown\"> </font>

pass
04-10-2003, 11:56 AM
House of Rose, LLC does not link to any other sites. Period.

**DONOTDELETE**
04-10-2003, 11:57 AM
Yeah, I just posted that up in the main forum under Yo Scientifical People.

She\'s an awfully nice woman. Very straightforward and accommodating, very kind.

pass
04-10-2003, 12:01 PM
Pheromone Research

Chemical communication being studied at IU’s Institute for

Pheromone Research
By Hal Kibbey
Novotny

An IU chemist’s laboratory identified the first definitive

mammalian pheromones in the house mouse in the late 1980s.

Before then, the term \'pheromones\' was largely confined to the

world of insects. In a recent issue of \'Nature,\' Milos Novotny

and Harvard colleagues explore \'semiochemicals\' in mammals.

All it takes is a few molecules of a certain chemical to enable

mammals to smell their own species up to a half-mile away, says

Milos Novotny, Distinguished Professor of chemistry and

director of the Institute for Pheromone Research at Indiana

University Bloomington.
The chemicals, called pheromones, are detected by the

vomeronasal organ (VNO) in the animal\'s nose. Unlike the part of

the nose that detects ordinary smells, this super-sensitive organ

is connected directly to the mid-brain.

\"This is the shortest organ-to-brain distance in mammalian

biology,\" Novotny said. \"A cascade of biochemical processes can

be triggered quite selectively by specific olfactants such as

pheromones at incredibly small quantities. Studies of mammalian

pheromones can have a significant effect on pest control,

promoting endangered species, and, perhaps above all, for

understanding our own sense of smell and associated behaviors.\"

Signals from a mammal\'s nose caused by normal smells called

odorants go to various places in the cortex, in the upper part of

the brain, which is why humans are conscious of smells. But

pheromone signals go directly to the mid-brain, without being

processed by the conscious brain. What happens after that is

not completely clear, but there is a lot of evidence that the

animal\'s behavior and hormonal levels are influenced.

In a paper published July 12 in the journal Nature, Novotny and

co-workers at Harvard Medical School in Boston headed by

Linda Buck reported that the vomeronasal organ can actually

detect both odorants and pheromones. The VNO detected

odorants classified as animalic, camphoraceous, citrus, floral,

fruity, green/minty, musky, sweet or woody. Like pheromones,

these odorants were detected at extremely small

concentrations.

\"This suggests that in mammals, as in insects, odorous

compounds released from plants or other animal species may act

as \'semiochemicals\'--signaling molecules that elicit behaviors

that are advantageous to the sender or the receiver,\" Novotny

said.

\"The house mouse provides a classic example of an elaborate

pheromone communication system: to signal inter-male

aggression and dominance, to show readiness for mating, to slow

down or accelerate the onset of puberty as needed, or to signal

stress to the other members of a colony,\" he said. \"Other

mammals, including possibly humans, use structurally diverse

substances for pheromone signaling.\"

The established view is that mammals detect odorants in the

olfactory epithelium (OE) of the nose and detect pheromones in

the vomeronasal organ. OE signals are relayed to various areas

in the cortex of the brain, while VNO signals are targeted to

areas of the mid-brain that control instinctive drives,

neuroendocrine responses and innate behaviors. The findings by

Novotny and his collaborators demonstrate that the VNO and

OE do not, in fact, detect mutually exclusive sets of chemicals.

Novotny\'s laboratory identified the first definitive mammalian

pheromones in the house mouse in the late 1980s, including their

chemical structure, synthesis and biological effects. Before

then, the term \"pheromones\" was largely confined to the world

of insects. Since then, he has identified pheromones in rats and

hamsters as well.

His current emphasis is on the neurochemistry of neurons in the

VNO and OE. He is the leader of interdisciplinary studies that

bridge the physical sciences, life sciences and social sciences,

including chemistry, neurobiology, psychobiology, biochemistry,

wildlife ecology, medical sciences, and animal physiology and

behavior.

The Institute for Pheromone Research at IU is a center of

excellence in the rapidly developing areas of chemical

communication (semiochemistry) and biochemical aspects of

olfactory perception. It promotes interdisciplinary collaborations

between IU scientists and a worldwide network of researchers

in chemical communication.

Both smells and pheromones may arouse instinctive behaviors in

mammals


July 16, 2001


BLOOMINGTON, Ind. -- Ever notice how male dogs come from

the other side of the neighborhood when a female dog is in heat?


All it takes is a few molecules of a certain chemical to enable

mammals to smell their own species up to a half-mile away, said

Milos Novotny, Distinguished Professor of Chemistry and

director of the Institute for Pheromone Research at Indiana

University.


The chemicals, called pheromones, are detected by the

vomeronasal organ (VNO) in the animal\'s nose. Unlike the part of

the nose that detects ordinary smells, this super-sensitive organ

is connected directly to the mid-brain.


\"This is the shortest organ-to-brain distance in mammalian

biology,\" Novotny said. \"A cascade of biochemical processes can

be triggered quite selectively by specific olfactants such as

pheromones at incredibly small quantities. Studies of mammalian

pheromones can have a significant effect on pest control,

promoting endangered species, and, perhaps above all, for

understanding our own sense of smell and associated behaviors.\"


Signals from a mammal\'s nose caused by normal smells called

odorants go to various places in the cortex, in the upper part of

the brain, which is why humans are conscious of smells. But

pheromone signals go directly to the mid-brain, without being

processed by the conscious brain. What happens after that is

not completely clear, but there is a lot of evidence that the

animal\'s behavior and hormonal levels are influenced.


In a paper published July 12 in the journal Nature, Novotny and

co-workers at Harvard Medical School in Boston headed by

Linda Buck reported that the vomeronasal organ can actually

detect both odorants and pheromones. The VNO detected

odorants classified as animalic, camphoraceous, citrus, floral,

fruity, green/minty, musky, sweet or woody. Like pheromones,

these odorants were detected at extremely small

concentrations.


\"This suggests that in mammals, as in insects, odorous

compounds released from plants or other animal species may act

as \'semiochemicals\' -- signaling molecules that elicit behaviors

that are advantageous to the sender or the receiver,\" Novotny

said.


\"The house mouse provides a classic example of an elaborate

pheromone communication system: to signal inter-male

aggression and dominance, to show readiness for mating, to slow

down or accelerate the onset of puberty as needed, or to signal

stress to the other members of a colony,\" he said. \"Other

mammals, including possibly humans, use structurally diverse

substances for pheromone signaling.\"


The established view is that mammals detect odorants in the

olfactory epithelium (OE) of the nose and detect pheromones in

the vomeronasal organ. OE signals are relayed to various areas

in the cortex of the brain, while VNO signals are targeted to

areas of the mid-brain that control instinctive drives,

neuroendocrine responses and innate behaviors. The findings by

Novotny and his collaborators demonstrate that the VNO and

OE do not, in fact, detect mutually exclusive sets of chemicals.


Novotny\'s laboratory identified the first definitive mammalian

pheromones in the house mouse in the late 1980s, including their

chemical structure, synthesis and biological effects. Before

then, the term \"pheromones\" was largely confined to the world

of insects. Since then, he has identified pheromones in rats and

hamsters as well.


His current emphasis is on the neurochemistry of neurons in the

VNO and OE. He is the leader of interdisciplinary studies that

bridge the physical sciences, life sciences and social sciences,

including chemistry, neurobiology, psychobiology, biochemistry,

wildlife ecology, medical sciences, and animal physiology and

behavior.


The Institute for Pheromone Research at IU is a center of

excellence in the rapidly developing areas of chemical

communication (semiochemistry) and biochemical aspects of

olfactory perception. It promotes interdisciplinary collaborations

between IU scientists and a worldwide network of researchers

in chemical communication.


Novotny can be reached at 812-855-4532 or novotny@indiana. (\"novotny@indiana.\")

edu


(Hal Kibbey, 812-855-0074, hkibbey@indiana.edu) (\"hkibbey@indiana.edu)\")


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Monday August 28, 2000
Researchers find gene that may open door to pheromone

By The Associated Press

Scientists have identified the first human gene that may be

linked to pheromones, odorless molecules that in other animals

trigger primal urges including sex, defense and kinship.


Experts describe the discovery as possibly opening a new door

into the role of pheromones in human development.


In animals, researchers have documented how pheromones trace

complex neurological paths to stimulate parts of the brain that

are deeply rooted in instinct.


Researchers have long believed that humans also communicate

through pheromones, but until now they had been unable to find

any of the equipment needed to detect these potent molecules.


Now, in experiments at Rockefeller University and Yale,

neurogeneticists have isolated a human gene, labeled V1RL1, that

they believe encodes for a pheromone receptor in the mucous

lining of the nose. A receptor is a patch on the surface of a cell

that binds with specific molecules, like a lock that accepts only a

specific key.


\'\'This is the first convincing identification of a human pheromone

receptor,\'\' said University of Colorado biochemist Joseph Falke.


Humans share the V1RL1 gene with rodents and other mammals

that rely heavily on pheromone cues to survive.


However, it has not been determined whether the gene is active

in humans or which pheromone-induced behavior the gene might

induce.


\'\'The ultimate test will be to find a pheromone that binds to the

receptor and triggers a measurable physiological response,\'\'

Falke said.


The research was published in the September issue of the

journal Nature Genetics.


Researchers took samples from a gene bank and scanned them

for matches to the rodent genes from the V1r family. They

found eight matches in human genetic material.


Further testing showed that seven of the eight human V1r genes

are inoperative. The potentially functional gene, called V1RL1,

subsequently was found in 11 out of 11 randomly chosen people

from varying ethnic backgrounds, researchers said.


While rodents and other creatures essentially are reactive

animals that depend heavily on pheromones for behavioral cues,

humans use their larger brains to rely more on judgment and

complex sensory cues, such as vision.


\'\'In mice, we think there are more than 100 functioning genes in

the V1r family,\'\' said Ivan Rodriguez of Rockefeller University,

lead author of the study. \'\'But in humans, V1RL1 may very well

be the sole functioning gene in the family.\'\'


\'\'Why has it hung around all this time?\'\' said Charles Wysocki of

the Monell Chemical Senses Center in Philadelphia. \'\'It must be

very important if it has outlived all of its predecessors.\'\'


Scientists aren\'t sure what happened to the other 99 genes.


\'\'It\'s unheard of that a family of 100 genes in mice is reduced

to a single gene in humans,\'\' said the study\'s senior author,

Peter Mombaerts.


In most mammals, pheromones usually are detected by a

specialized organ inside the nose or mouth called the

vomeronasal organ, or VNO. Nerves connect it to parts of the

brain involved in reactions rather than cognition.


In humans, the organ appears in embryos with its nerve cells

extending into the developing brain. For several weeks, it serves

as a pathway for hormones vital to sexual development and

maturity. However, the VNO in humans shrinks and stops

working before birth.


Researchers have long suspected that humans communicate with

pheromones. But how pheromones are produced and how they

are detected across a room, or even greater distances, is poorly

understood.


One 1998 study at the University of Chicago demonstrated that

pheromones in underarm sweat prompt women living in close

quarters to synchronize their menstrual cycles.


Some companies put pheromones in perfumes. Chemical makers

bait insect traps with pheromones.


Mombaerts said it is too early to tell whether the gene discovery

might lead to pheromone-based medicines.


However, the potential for pheromone misuse worries some

researchers and bioethicists.


\'\'Safeguards will be needed to prevent the manipulation of

human behavior,\'\' Falke said. \'\'We won\'t want pheromones

showing up in magazine ads, or pumped through ventilation

systems at the mall.\'\'
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Brief Communication

Nature, 12 July 2001

Nature ,Volume 412, No. 6843, page 142 © Macmillan

Publishers Ltd.

Neuropharmacology: Odorants may arouse instinctive

behaviours*

Mehran Sam*, Sadhna Vora*, Bettina Malnic*, Weidong Ma,

Milos V Novtny, Linda B Buck*
* Howard Hughes Medical Institute, Department of

Neurobiology, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts

02115, USA
Institute for Pheromone Research, Department of Chemistry,

Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana 47405, USA
e-mail: lbuck@hms.harvard.edu (\"lbuck@hms.harvard.edu\")

The prevailing view of the mammalian olfactory system is that

odorants are detected only in the nasal olfactory epithelium,

whereas pheromones are generally detected in the vomeronasal

organ. Here we show that vomeronasal neurons can actually

detect both odorants and pheromones. This suggests that in

mammals, as in insects, odorous compounds released from plants

or other animal species may act as \'semiochemicals\' -- signalling

molecules that elicit stereotyped behaviours that are

advantageous to the emitter or to the receiver.

*Reproduced with permission of Nature © Macmillan Pub. Ltd

2001 Reg. No. 785998 England.




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In his acceptance speech at the College of Arts and Sciences

banquet where he was presented with the 1999 Distinguished

Faculty Award, Milos Novotny recalled the journey that brought

him to Indiana University. Born in Czechoslovakia, he earned his

doctorate in biochemistry from the University of Brno in 1965.

He left Czechoslovakia for a research post in Stockholm,

Sweden, just weeks before Russian tanks moved in to repress

the brief flowering of freedom known as the Prague Spring.

Since 1971 he has been on the faculty at IU, but his

international ties remain important to him. Science, he says, is an

international discipline whose practitioners owe their first

allegiance to the pursuit of knowledge. \"I don’t think you can

stop people from discovering,\" says Novotny. \"It’s our basic

human nature. We are curious. And of course we try to put our

discoveries to good uses.\"

Anyone who has ever leafed through a copy of Vogue or

Mademoiselle is probably already familiar with the concept of

pheromones. In the world of these magazines, pheromones are

the mysterious substances that act subconsciously to produce

sudden paroxysms of lust, adding their je-sais-exactly-quoi to

expensive perfumes. Less sexily, they cause masses of women

living together, as in dorms, to have their periods at the same

time.

Well, the magazines don’t have it entirely wrong, but they don’t

have it right, either. Pheromones—the real thing—are much less

well understood and much more complex than the popular

picture of sexual telepathy implies. They are also much more

interesting.

Milos Novotny, James H. Rudy Professor of bioanalytical

chemistry, has devoted a good part of the last twenty years or

so to studying pheromones. His reaction to the notion that a dash

of human pheromones in a bottle of perfume can spice up your

sex life is a dismissive chuckle. All the same, there is clearly a

note of passion in his voice when he discusses the subject.

\"In the mid 1970s I became aware of pheromone communication

in mammals,\" he says. Many studies had already been done on

their effects on insects; Japanese beetle traps, for example,

developed as a result of research done in the 60s, use

pheromones to lure the beetles to their deaths. But even now,

very few people are doing work with mammals. Novotny is one of

the few. \"Some people refer to me as the chemist in this field,\"

he says, with some chagrin. \"It’s nice to have something that is

your own, but I wish more people were involved, to develop the

field more quickly.\"

Novotny is drawn to research with mammals because their

complexity is so great. There is, he says, \"more plasticity to the

behavior of the mammal,\" while insects respond in very

consistent and predictable ways to chemical cues. \"You

synthesize pheromones in the lab, then there is a big danger all

the ants in the building will come to that place,\" says Novotny. \"

Insects will follow slavishly a trail, animals think a little more.\"

Initially inspired by Marvin Carmack, professor emeritus of

organic chemistry, Novotny began developing techniques for

separating pheromones from the complex substances, such as

urine, that carry them. He has worked mainly with mice and

nocturnal animals whose poor vision demands that they rely

heavily on the sense of smell.

\"We have been able to reproduce the biological effect,\" Novotny

says. \"We can put man-made chemical on the skin of mice and

cause them to fight.\"

In addition to inducing aggression, pheromones are linked to the

following behavioral phenomena: Acceleration of puberty,

dominance, synchronization of estrus, and, yes, sexual

attraction.

It is hard to tell, in such a young field, where the research might

lead. Pest control, as mentioned above, is one practical

application, but there will certainly be many more. Novotny is

particularly intrigued by the neurobiological aspects of his work

\"I’d like to see pheromone research leading to a better

understanding of the sense of smell,\" he says. \"The nose is the

shortest possible route to our brain.\"


Although his interest in pheromones is longstanding, Novotny’s

work in the 70s, when he first came to IU, was quite a different

kettle of fish. On a bookshelf in his office in the chemistry

building he keeps a memento,\"“for sentimental reasons,\" of those

earlier efforts. It looks like a sprung Slinky that’s gone down the

steps a few too many times. On closer examination, it turns out

to be made of glass. Coiled, it’s easy to hold in your hand, but

fully extended, Novotny says, breaking off a few expendable

inches at the end for emphasis, it’s 50 yards long. This inelegant

object turns out to be a highly sophisticated measuring device, a

chromatogram. The glass is flecked inside with chemicals. When

a substance to be analyzed is put in at one end, as it travels the

length of the tube these chemicals react with different

components of the unknown substance, ultimately reducing it

from its sum into its parts.

It seems surprising, somehow, that in the era of the Internet

and space travel, scientific advancement should be dependant on

something so apparently simple as making a long enough, thin

enough tube. \"It all goes hand in hand,\" says Novotny. \"This,\" he

says, grasping a metal version of the chromatogram, \"went to

analyze Martian soil [as part of the 1975 Viking Lander mission].

High technologies click into \"low\" very well. These tubes can be

attached to a computer that can distinguish, quantify, and

compare the results.\"

The link between this early work and his current research into

pheromones and glycans, or sugars—the two areas that Novotny

says are closest to his heart—is his lifelong interest in

understanding the workings of those most complex biological

systems, human beings. \"The human body I view as one big

chemical reactor,\" he says. \"My guiding philosophy for doing

science is that I’m interested in some kinds of natural

phenomena and it’s much easier to develop methodologies for

what I’m interested in.\"

Even as a child, growing up in Czechoslovakia, Novotny knew he

was going to be a scientist. At first, he wanted to do something

biologically oriented. “My father was a botanist, so he really

introduced me to nature,” he says. \"At 15, I just happened to

run into a medical student—he rented an apartment in my aunt’s

house. I would have him explain things to me, and when he was

studying for his exams, he used me as a sounding board.\"

Not surprisingly, Novotny aspired to study medicine himself, but

he was \"prevented by politics from doing this.\" Under

communism, he says, \"the system decided for you what you

should do. I didn’t have a sufficiently politically friendly profile

to pursue anything as socially prestigious as being a doctor.

However, if I cannot do one thing, I try to do the next.\" And

thus the chemist was born.

That willingness to try the next thing is a hallmark of Novotny’s

work as well as his life. The themes that come up over and over

again in his colleague’s commendations are his tenacity and his

creativity. Both in the laboratory and in the classroom, he is

constantly looking for new problems to be solved, and new ways

to solve them.

Novotny himself finds the creativity of a scientist to be an

unknown quanitity Where does it come from? And how does a

teacher cultivate it? Novotny’s approach to these problems

derives from his own experience. To become a creative scientist,

a student needs to begin with boundless curiosity and then to

train that curiosity with rigor. \"Creativity in science is a subject

that intrigues me,” he says. \"I try to instill this in my students.

Not just creativity, though. There has to be discipline in

following through. One of my colleagues once said, ‘in science

you have to be reckless,’ not intimidated by authority. I think we

are like artists in that way.\"

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Pheromone Receptors Need \"Escorts\"



\"This association opens all sorts of possibilities for the

mechanism of pheromone detection,\" said HHMI investigator

Catherine Dulac.

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March 7, 2003— Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI)

researches and their colleagues have discovered that escort

molecules are required to usher pheromone receptors to the

surface of sensory neurons where they are needed to translate

chemical cues.

In an interesting twist, the researchers found that the escort

molecules belong to a family of proteins, called the major

histocompatibility complex (MHC), which plays an important role

in the immune system. The researchers speculate that in addition

to being escort molecules, the MHC proteins might actively

modulate an animal\'s response to pheromones. Modulation of

pheromone activity might aid in the recognition of other animals.

The studies in mice add “a novel and unexpected layer of

complexity to the process of pheromone detection,” the

researchers wrote in an article published in the March 7, 2003,

issue of the journal Cell. The article was published online on

March 4, 2003. The findings also suggest that, similarly, escort

molecules, although of a different kind, may be important in

smell and taste receptors.

HHMI investigators Catherine Dulac at Harvard University and

Kirsten Fischer Lindahl at the University of Texas Southwestern

Medical Center led the research teams that collaborated on the

studies.

The pheromone communication system, which is found in a wide

range of mammals, involves detection of chemical odorants

released by animals. Detection of pheromones takes place in a

specialized structure, called the vomeronasal organ (VNO).

Although the VNO resides in the nasal cavity, the pheromone

sensory system is distinct from the sense of smell, as are the

chemical receptors involved. In animals possessing a pheromone

sensory system — including mice, dogs, cats and elephants — the

system governs a range of genetically preprogrammed mating,

social ranking, maternal, and territorial defense behaviors.

According to Dulac, untangling the complexity of the pheromone

system has been a daunting task for researchers. “For example,

if you compare the number of receptors, which ranges between

two hundred and four hundred, and the number of behaviors

they trigger, which ranges up to a dozen, there is a huge

discrepancy,” she said. “So, you can either postulate that there

are hundreds of behaviors not yet described, or more likely a

given behavior involves the activation of multiple receptors.”

To begin sorting out the functions of the multitude of

pheromone receptors, Dulac and her colleagues decided to study

a subpopulation of sensory neurons in the VNO. The researchers

knew they could distinguish neurons that expressed one family

of receptors, called V2R, from another family, called V1R, so

they used a technique called “subtractive differential screening

of single cell cDNA libraries” to compare the genes that are

switched on in neurons bearing the two different types of

pheromone receptor.

Their comparisons — as well as sequencing of the discovered

genes and searches of gene databases — yielded evidence that

two families of MHC genes called M1 and M10 were

preferentially activated in these neurons, said Dulac. The finding

was surprising because MHC proteins commonly function on the

surface of immune cells to present foreign proteins to the

immune system to trigger destruction of invading pathogens. The

M10 proteins found in the VNO were different in structure and

obviously in function from other such molecules.

Dulac\'s and Fischer Lindahl\'s research teams set out to explore

the structure and function of the M10 type of MHC proteins

that the genes produced. Their studies revealed that the MHC

genes were exclusively expressed in the VNO and in no other

tissue. And within the VNO, they were only expressed in V2R-

positive VNO neurons. The researchers observed that each type

of V2R receptor apparently had a specific type of M10 protein

associated with it.

“So, we found that there is a population of neurons in which each

neuron expresses only one type of pheromone receptor gene,”

said Dulac. “We also were able to show that these individual

neurons express only one type of M10 gene. This told us there

was some type of logic in that association.”

Additional studies showed that the M10 gene was activated only

after birth, which suggested that M10 only functions in

pheromone sensing in the adult animal. The researchers showed

that the M10 proteins, like the pheromone receptor proteins,

were localized to the tips of neurons, called dendrites, where

chemical reception takes place.

Their studies showed that the M10 protein, as well as an “

accessory” molecule, beta2-microglobulin, that accompanies such

M10 proteins, directly interacted with the pheromone receptor

molecule. Finally, they found that the M10 protein and its

accessory molecule were necessary for the pheromone receptor

to reach the surface of the neuron.

The researchers also explored the effects of knocking out the

key M10 accessory molecule, beta2-microglobulin, in mice. They

found that the beta2-microglobulin-knockout male mice lacked

V2R receptors in their VNOs and also failed to exhibit the

normal aggressive behavior toward other males.

According to Dulac, the scientists\' findings show that M10 plays

a crucial escort role for pheromone receptors, but it might well

have a modulatory role. “The fact that the receptor needs M10

to go to the surface, doesn\'t prove it\'s the exclusive role of the

protein,” she said. “We do know that each time researchers have

described an association between a particular receptor and

another molecule at the cell surface, it has always been the case

that the specificity of the original receptor is being modified. So,

we have found new molecular players, if you will, in the game of

pheromone detection.”

Dulac said that the newly discovered MHC molecule involvement

could have important implications for understanding the

pheromone system. “This association opens all sorts of

possibilities for the mechanism of pheromone detection, because

we know the animal can modulate its behavior according to the

sex of another animal, its genetic background and the elements

that make up the identity of an animal.”

The discovery of escort molecules in the pheromone system

could have implications for understanding the molecular

machinery involved in smell and taste, Dulac said. Researchers

knew that in cell cultures, olfactory and taste receptors seemed

to require additional molecules to reach the surfaces of cells.

That observation hints at the need for still-undiscovered escort

molecules for those receptors, as well as for the V1R-

expressing class of pheromone receptors, she said.

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CATS COMFORTED BY SYNTHETIC CHEMICAL, RESEARCH

SUGGESTS
COLUMBUS, Ohio - Have an anxious cat? A synthetic chemical

may be what it takes to put kitty at ease in unfamiliar territory,

a new study suggests.

Researchers at Ohio State University found that when stressed

cats were exposed to a synthetic form of a feline facial

pheromone (FFP), they ate more and seemed more comfortable

in a hospital than did cats not exposed to the pheromone.

FFP is one of a variety of pheromones, chemicals that animals

use to communicate with others of the same species. FFP seems

to signal comfort and amicability.



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\"The increases in grooming, interest in food and food intake

suggest that FFP had an anxiety-reducing effect on some cats,\"

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Changing a cat\'s behavior by introducing a synthetic pheromone

to its environment is a unique solution to helping agitated cats,

said Tony Buffington, co-author of the study and professor of

clinical nutrition at Ohio State\'s College of Veterinary Medicine.

\"Veterinarians are so used to putting something in or on an

animal that we\'ve never really thought of altering the animal\'s

environment,\" he said. \"Using pheromones may be an effective

way of calming cats.\"

The study appears in a recent issue of the Journal of the
American Veterinary Medical Association. Buffington conducted

the study with Cerissa Griffith, a veterinary student at Ohio

State, and Elizabeth Steigerwald, of Parke-Davis Pharmaceutical

Research.

In one study, 20 cats were housed in stainless steel cages 3

feet high by 4 feet wide at Ohio State\'s veterinary teaching

hospital. The cages included a litter pan, food and water bowls

and a clean towel. Enough space was left between the litter box

and the back of the cage to allow the cat to hide in this area.

When faced with new surroundings, especially in a hospital with

other animals, cats tend to show signs of stress and fear, such

as hiding or becoming hyper-vigilant, Buffington said. Common

behaviors, such as exploring their surroundings and playing, are

often suppressed.

In this study, 10 cats (four healthy, six ill) were exposed to

synthetic FFP while the rest of the cats (three healthy, seven ill)

were exposed to towels that had been sprayed with ethanol (the

ethanol, which acted as a placebo, evaporated before the

animals were placed in the cage with the towels.) The

researchers applied FFP or ethanol to the towels 30 minutes

before placing the towels in each cage. The researchers

videotaped the cats for 125 minutes. They then recorded cat

behavior and food intake for 18 five-minute intervals that began

35 minutes after the cat was placed in the cage with the towel.

\"The effects of FFP tend to kick in about a half-hour after

exposure,\" Buffington said. Once the FFP kicked in, though, the

cats exposed to the pheromone exhibited more episodes of

typical feline behavior, such as lying in the cage, sitting, grooming

and eating. Three cats in the FFP group ate during the

observation period, compared to only one cat in the control

group; the cats in the FFP group that did eat consumed nearly

10 grams of food during the observation period, compared to 0

.2 grams in the non-exposed group.

What was key with these findings was that cats exposed to the

pheromone exhibited more \"calming behaviors,\" Buffington said.

\"The increases in grooming, interest in food and food intake

suggest that FFP had an anxiety-reducing effect on some cats,\"

Buffington said. \"The cats responded to the synthetic FFP by

increased episodes of facial rubbing, which meant they released

more FFP onto objects in the cage.\" Cats release FFP via glands

in their face.

In a second study, researchers looked at another environmental

factor that may help calm anxious cats. The researchers

exposed 20 cats - all different than those in the first study - to

FFP and placed cat carriers in half of the cages. They wanted to

know if having a place to hide - the carrier - would have an

effect on their food intake. For this study, the researchers

recorded the 24-hour food intake of each group.

Adding the carrier caused cats to eat significantly more,

Buffington said. These cats consumed an average of 26 grams

of food during the 24-hour period, while the cats without the

carrier consumed about 9 grams of food. (26 grams is

equivalent to about half of a cat\'s daily food intake needs.)

\"The increase in food intake in this group suggests that other

features of the environment may affect a cat\'s response to

FFP,\" Buffington said.

Synthetic FFP is currently available from veterinarians,

Buffington said. Cat owners can use it to make their pet feel

more comfortable at home or to control fearful behavior.

\"It\'s a lot easier for an owner to spray a pheromone around the

home than it is to stick a pill down a cat\'s throat,\" Buffington

said.

Abbott Laboratories provided support for thiBoth smells and

pheromones may arouse instinctive behaviors in mammals


July 16, 2001


BLOOMINGTON, Ind. -- Ever notice how male dogs come from

the other side of the neighborhood when a female dog is in heat?


All it takes is a few molecules of a certain chemical to enable

mammals to smell their own species up to a half-mile away, said

Milos Novotny, Distinguished Professor of Chemistry and

director of the Institute for Pheromone Research at Indiana

University.


The chemicals, called pheromones, are detected by the

vomeronasal organ (VNO) in the animal\'s nose. Unlike the part of

the nose that detects ordinary smells, this super-sensitive organ

is connected directly to the mid-brain.


\"This is the shortest organ-to-brain distance in mammalian

biology,\" Novotny said. \"A cascade of biochemical processes can

be triggered quite selectively by specific olfactants such as

pheromones at incredibly small quantities. Studies of mammalian

pheromones can have a significant effect on pest control,

promoting endangered species, and, perhaps above all, for

understanding our own sense of smell and associated behaviors.\"


Signals from a mammal\'s nose caused by normal smells called

odorants go to various places in the cortex, in the upper part of

the brain, which is why humans are conscious of smells. But

pheromone signals go directly to the mid-brain, without being

processed by the conscious brain. What happens after that is

not completely clear, but there is a lot of evidence that the

animal\'s behavior and hormonal levels are influenced.


In a paper published July 12 in the journal Nature, Novotny and

co-workers at Harvard Medical School in Boston headed by

Linda Buck reported that the vomeronasal organ can actually

detect both odorants and pheromones. The VNO detected

odorants classified as animalic, camphoraceous, citrus, floral,

fruity, green/minty, musky, sweet or woody. Like pheromones,

these odorants were detected at extremely small

concentrations.


\"This suggests that in mammals, as in insects, odorous

compounds released from plants or other animal species may act

as \'semiochemicals\' -- signaling molecules that elicit behaviors

that are advantageous to the sender or the receiver,\" Novotny

said.


\"The house mouse provides a classic example of an elaborate

pheromone communication system: to signal inter-male

aggression and dominance, to show readiness for mating, to slow

down or accelerate the onset of puberty as needed, or to signal

stress to the other members of a colony,\" he said. \"Other

mammals, including possibly humans, use structurally diverse

substances for pheromone signaling.\"


The established view is that mammals detect odorants in the

olfactory epithelium (OE) of the nose and detect pheromones in

the vomeronasal organ. OE signals are relayed to various areas

in the cortex of the brain, while VNO signals are targeted to

areas of the mid-brain that control instinctive drives,

neuroendocrine responses and innate behaviors. The findings by

Novotny and his collaborators demonstrate that the VNO and

OE do not, in fact, detect mutually exclusive sets of chemicals.


Novotny\'s laboratory identified the first definitive mammalian

pheromones in the house mouse in the late 1980s, including their

chemical structure, synthesis and biological effects. Before

then, the term \"pheromones\" was largely confined to the world

of insects. Since then, he has identified pheromones in rats and

hamsters as well.


His current emphasis is on the neurochemistry of neurons in the

VNO and OE. He is the leader of interdisciplinary studies that

bridge the physical sciences, life sciences and social sciences,

including chemistry, neurobiology, psychobiology, biochemistry,

wildlife ecology, medical sciences, and animal physiology and

behavior.


The Institute for Pheromone Research at IU is a center of

excellence in the rapidly developing areas of chemical

communication (semiochemistry) and biochemical aspects of

olfactory perception. It promotes interdisciplinary collaborations

between IU scientists and a worldwide network of researchers

in chemical communication.


Novotny can be reached at 812-855-4532 or novotny@indiana. (\"novotny@indiana.\")

edu


(Hal Kibbey, 812-855-0074, hkibbey@indiana.edu) (\"hkibbey@indiana.edu)\")

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Pinning Down Pheromones
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Challenge
Many bacteria release chemicals called pheromones to monitor

their population density. The bacteria use this information to

regulate the transcription of certain genes such as those that

cause luminescence or biofilms. Scientists hope that by pinning

down precisely how pheromones control gene behavior, they can

learn how to manipulate them (with pharmaceuticals, for

example) to prevent diseases in humans, such as cystic fibrosis,

as well as diseases that affect our agricultural resources.

Argonne\'s Response
A team of Argonne bioscientists has been the first to observe

the three-dimensional structure of a pheromone captured in the

act of binding to a gene\'s regulatory element. The pheromone-

DNA-transcription-factor complex they analyzed is from

Agrobacterium tumefaciens, a bacterium that causes tumors in

crops (Figure 1). Learning about the pheromone\'s structural

convolutions and its binding sites helps scientists deduce how the

pheremone functions on the molecular level. They can then

hypothesize how similar systems may work in other pathogenic

bacteria.

Approach
The Argonne-solved structure is the first transcriptionally active

complex combining pheromone with transcription-factor protein

and DNA to be captured in three dimensions. Researchers used

the world\'s most powerful x-rays the Structural Biology Center

beams at Argonne\'s Advanced Photon Source. The x-rays

diffract from (and scatter off) the crystallized molecule, and

the intensities of the diffracted beams are read by a computer

that feeds these data into advanced structure determination

programs (Figure 2). The structure was determined at a

resolution of 1.66 angstroms allowing scientists to detect the

details of the structure. (To give some perspective: 10 million

angstroms make up 1 millimeter.)



Figure 1. Three-dimensional visualization of the structure of a

pheromone-DNA-transcription factor, as delineated by Argonne

bioscientists using the Structural Biology Center at the

Advanced Photon Source. Blue = DNA, red = pheromone, shades

of red and blue = subunit-interaction sites and RNA polymerase

activation sites on transcription factor protein.

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Figure 2. Diagram of x-ray-scattering analysis at Argonne\'s

Advanced Photon Source, where scientists use the world\'s

brightest x-ray beams to study nanoscale structures.

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Results
By discovering the pheromone-binding site, Argonne scientists

have determined that the A. tumefaciens pheromone works

indirectly, by making the transcription-factor protein more

stable and forming molecule pairs that are asymmetrical and

activate gene transcription (Figure 3). They have also confirmed

that the pheromone provides a necessary \"scaffold\" for

formation of the molecule pairs, and that the asymmetry of the

molecule pairs is likely to be significant in activating gene

transcription. These structure-function relationships can be

considered prototypes for similar pheromones.

Future Research
Work is under way to expand this research by:

Looking at the binding sites of pheromone analogs,
Creating structural mutations in the A. tumefaciens transcription

factor to study their effects on DNA binding and on activation

of gene transcription, and
Determining the three-dimensional structure of the molecule

pair complexed with RNA polymerase — catching it in the act of

gene activation

Figure 3. Argonne bioscientists determined the details of

pheromone binding, at 1.66-angstrom resolution, of a TraR

transcription-factor protein from A. tumefaciens bacteria. The

protein interacts with pheromone and a water molecule (light

blue).

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Contact
Andrzej Joachimiak
Biosciences Division and Structural Biology Center
Phone: 630/252-3926
Fax: 630/252-6126
andrzejj@anl.gov (\"andrzejj@anl.gov\")


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Collaborators
Cornell University
Monsanto Company

Sponsors
U.S. Department of Energy, Office
of Biological and Environmental Research
National Institutes of Health



Contact: Tony Buffington, (614) 292-7987; Buffington.1@osu. (\"Buffington.1@osu.\")

edu
Written by Holly Wagner, (614) 292-8310; Wagner.235@osu. (\"Wagner.235@osu.\")

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PSC Synchronin Project

Background

At its inception, Pheromone Sciences Corp. set its sights on the

development of commercially viable human pheromone

compounds. The first of these, a synthesized pheromone

product based on compounds found in female human sweat, was

named PSC Synchronin™.

Pheromones are behavior-modifying hormones transmitted

between both insects and animals by scent or by contact. The

knowledge of insect pheromones is considerable, research in

recent years having been driven by a market demand for safer

pesticides. The use of insect pheromone compounds can achieve

pest control by confusing normal insect behavior and preventing

reproduction. Pheromones are good for human health and the

environment because they pose fewer risks than traditional

chemical pesticides. Some brand-name pharmaceutical

companies, through their AgChem divisions, are now developing or

producing biopesticides that are based on insect pheromone

compounds.

Up until the mid-1990s, when Pheromone Sciences Corp. made its

first discoveries in the field, the pheromones of humans had

been less well studied than those of insects, although the

evidence for human pheromones had been building for some

time. Much of the attention to human pheromones had focused

on attempting to identify male-secreted compounds, such as

steroids in sweat responsible for human body odour, thought to

potentially influence the menstrual cycles and/or sexual

behavior of females. However, this approach is not consistent

with what has been observed in nature. Adult males secrete

steroids in their apocrine sweat somewhat continuously, and

therefore could not be expected to provide a time signal that

would synchronize a female partner\'s cycle. Further, it has been

known since the early 1970s that women who live in close

quarters such as college dormitories often become synchronized

in their menstrual cycles. This phenomenon suggested that some

possible pheromone-type factor that manifests itself between

women had the capability of lengthening or shortening their

cycles.

Dr. Martha McClintock, an American researcher, observed cycle

synchronization in female rats, and proposed a coupled-

oscillator hypothesis whereby cycle-shortening pheromones were

presumed to be released in the late follicular stage (the time

prior to ovulation) and cycle-lengthening pheromones at the time

of ovulation. She and Dr. Jeffrey Schank later tested this

hypothesis. In 1998, Dr. McClintock suggested that the same

coupled-oscillator hypothesis for cycle synchronization is in

operation in human females, and provided evidence for this by

stimulating changes in women\'s menstrual cycle length by

exposing them to armpit sweat from women collected in their

follicular or ovulatory phases.

As to the method of transmission, recent genetic studies have

discovered a pheromone receptor in humans, found to be

expressed in the main olfactory bulb---the same organ that

gives us our sense of smell.

PSC\'s early scientific research built on the body of work by the

American researchers, adding observations about the effects

female human pheromones have on males-including libido

enhancement and mood elevation.

The Company\'s first evidence of effects on males came when it

was observed that women in their follicular phase appeared to

release a substance that affected electrolyte metabolism (anti

-diuretic activity) in their male partners. Subsequently, it was

found that this affect could be transferred to certain men by

simply exposing them to sweat extracts from the women.

Experiments with males found that certain subjects exhibited

consistent elevations in certain urinary hormone levels observed

after exposure to these female extracts. These sweat extracts

have been subjected to biochemical investigation to determine

their precise chemical makeup, as well as the timing and

mechanisms for their release.

In our drive to isolate these compounds, an examination was

undertaken as to their effects on sex drive in males. In pilot

experiments over the past years, a procedure was carried out to

track the changes in the male subjects\' urinary hormone levels.

Subjective impressions on mood and libido were also observed

and recorded. Based on research to date, we have synthesized

12 chemical analogues that resemble the PSC compounds found

in the active fractions isolated from female subjects.

Clinical Testing

In 2001, the Company initiated a small-scale placebo-controlled

trial to test for pharmacological activity of these isolates on

male libido and mood. Under the direction of Dr. Sidney

Radomski, Toronto Hospital, Western Division, this study was

undertaken for obtaining a better understanding of the

pharmacological activity of these isolates as well as the best

manner for testing and documenting their activity. If successful,

PSC hopes to use this research to develop new pharmacological

agents applicable to libido enhancement in men. However,

because of the small sample sizes to date, the results cannot be

considered conclusive until more extensive trials are undertaken

with larger groups of subjects.

The company has decided to hold off of any further

investments in this project until the funds from sales of the PSC

Fertility Monitor in North America and Europe materialize. This

step will permit the company to stay focussed on projects which

will generate revenues sooner as opposed to later.

Intellectual Property

It is anticipated that patent applications of the structure and

synthesis of pheromone analogues will be filed upon completion

of the tests using the synthesized analogues of PSC

Synchronin™.

Market Potential

Pheromone\'s continuing research into how both the natural

pheromones and the PSC Synchronin affect human physiology is

bringing new knowledge about the hormonal control of libido.

Pheromone intends to use this new data in the future to develop

both drug and perhaps cosmetic applications for its pheromone

based product.

The Future

A new era of pharmacological development is dawning, and

Pheromone Sciences is poised to be at the leading edge with

these new therapeutic agents.
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Pheromones in Humans: Myth or Reality?

(c) 1992 David Wolfgang-Kimball

The Senses

Dr. Goldsmith

Pheromones are volatile, odorous substances which are released

by one animal and detected by another, causing some sort of

physiological reaction. These reactions can manifest themselves

in a variety of different ways: some pheromones modulate

sexual activity, some affect aggression, some play roles in

territory marking, and other pheromones have similarly diverse

effects on the target animal. Pheromones have been

demonstrated in a very large number of organisms ranging from

amoebas to fish to mammals, including primates. However, the <br /

BassMan
04-10-2003, 12:03 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
House of Rose,LLC does not use pheromones covered by the Erox patent. <font color=\"brown\"> </font>

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Well, I obviously am not the one stirring the mix, but comparing this reply from House of Rose:

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
We use 100% estratetraenol ( estra-1,3,5(10),16-tetraen-3-ol ) which is mixed with a small amount of 99% ethanol to attract men &amp; 100% androstadienone ( 4,16-androstadien-3-one ) with a small amount of 99% ethanol to attract women.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

with an article in The Journal of NIH Research, Jan 1994, Vol 6, by Robert Taylor:

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
The patent application states that 1,3,5(10), 16-estratetraene-3-ol uniquely elicits a change in surface potential in the male VNO, and that the female VNO responds to D4,16-androstadien-3-one.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

it does indeed appear that they are.

Why do you think that these are not the same chemicals?

pass
04-10-2003, 12:18 PM
The ingredients that follow the # 16 NOT are the same.

BassMan
04-10-2003, 12:37 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
The ingredients that follow the # 16 NOT are the same.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">


Help me out here. I found the extra \"e\" in the estra- compound naming in the Taylor article I quoted.

But from the Natural Attraction site (an Erox successor to Realm):

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
The most obvious feature of these results is that only two of these compounds are significant stimulators of the human VNO. The substances are estra-1,3,5(10),16-tetraen-3-ol (estratetraenol) and androsta-4,16-dien-3-one (androstadienone)

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">


Apparently there was a typo in the earlier article.

Dr. Kohl, can you comment on this?

pass
04-10-2003, 01:27 PM
That was a typo.

bjf
07-15-2004, 10:00 AM
bump, lots of articles above