AE negatives???

[1tyme]

has anybody ever had a bad experience while using AE. just ordered my first bottle, and read a post that it might have too much none for us youngins. anyways i\'m 21 5-10 180 athletic build. my frens readin this stuff too and says that i\'m alpha, should i have gone with the SoE or how much AE should i use? i just don\'t want to chase girls away or ruin my natural mojo /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[xvs]

What kind of reactions do you get from girls without pheros?

That info will help to indicate what you should use.

[1tyme]

well, they are usually happy to talk to me, but i have to say something first. after that it\'s all good they open up. when i go places i notice girls noticing me, i don\'t know if that\'s wat some people here consider DIHL, nothing jaw dropping, or mesmerized, just keeping their eye on me out of a bunch of people for a second or two. it\'s the kind of look where i\'m confident that if went over to talk to her i would walk away with a ph# or atleast a pleasant conversation. after meeting some girls, i\'ve asked them if they thought i was good looking or watevers why didn\'t they step to me first. most say cause they thought i\'d turn them down. hope this helps.

[CJ01]

It helps knowing yourself well enough, how others react towards ie how you come across, and it also greatly depends on what `type´of person you´re trying to attract. When you figure that out it can help choosing the mones and the right product for yourself. However the best way to find out is doing field testing. AE is a great product, a good choice usually. Just don´t use too much at first. Start with one drop or less for a few days if it´s not enough increase until you´ve found the right dose for yourself. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif CJ

[CJ01]

Our posts came at the same time, going by what you´ve just written I´d suggest PI/w to make you more approachable.

BTW it´s pretty normal for guys to take the initiative but it´s really sad to ask women if they think you´re good looking. Makes you look a bit of a vain ego maniac who needs too much flattery.

[1tyme]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Our posts came at the same time, going by what you´ve just written I´d suggest PI/w to make you more approachable.

BTW it´s pretty normal for guys to take the initiative but it´s really sad to ask women if they think you´re good looking. Makes you look a bit of a vain ego maniac who needs too much flattery.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
thanx for the help but i didn\'t ask them if i was good looking, i just asked them that since they were interested in me why didn\'t they approach me. hope that clears things up cause askin a girl if you good looking isn\'t really smooth /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

oh and why would you recommend PI/w isn\'t that for women? i wouldn\'t want to attract guys, but i\'m just a newbie all help appreciated.

[Shoe]

PI/w is a good bargain for the amount of -nol is contains.... and -nol is the chatty/friendly/approachable phero you probably need. AE/m should work for you also but your ideal dosage would probably be only one or two drops. And if you want to explore new territory, WAGG might be great for you.

[Watcher]

Ive got to mention Scent of Eros here to if you are worried as well as the following mixes that help immensly and proven track records.
DD#1, KR#1 and WKM#1
The general thinking is Anol and Arone together with 10% Anone is the best for under 25s as we produce way more than enough at our age.

[Cloud9]

I know that the younger guys produce much more Anone, but what about when we take a shower and wash it all off before a date or going to a club??? Wouldn\'t that kind of put the younger guys at the same effect as the older ones. Most likely adding Anone probably wouldn\'t cause a repelling OD effect if you don\'t put but a few drops on after a shower/bath. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Watcher]

That would be the case, but i get better results with a mix that has a wide spread of pheromone types, my current one which i dont expect anyone to try due to the experimental factor and $$$$ costs involved. Has ANone Anol Arone a1(androstadienone) WAGG (3 secret ingredients) and EW or PCC.
Have gotten very big hits with this one. Anyway you need less Anone and more Anol and Arone, try alter ego for women perhaps whcih is just that way.

[Cloud9]

Watcher..Do you think I will get good enough results with my girlfriend with AE/m, or should I get AE/w? I already have APC, just got SOE, and AE/m is on the way in the mail..no chance to try SOE out yet, but I have gotten good results from APC even though it has very low Anone. Thanks

[Watcher]

What about this 1 drop of APC and 3x7 cm swipes of SOE that would give similar ratios to DD#Lite i think, try that out with the products you have. Dont order anything just yet. Also 4 swipes of SOE and 1 drop of AE with 1 drop of APC is another suggestion.
Try drawing up a sheet of paper and come up with as many combos of those products as you can and try applying different amounts of each product (dont mix them) and report on how each one works, im fiddling all the time with different mixes ratios and product application points. Get busy and just report everything back, it will help others.

[CptKipling]

Or (while we send Watcher to extra maths lessons), get some AEm and use that with your SOE

[1tyme]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
I know that the younger guys produce much more Anone, but what about when we take a shower and wash it all off before a date or going to a club??? Wouldn\'t that kind of put the younger guys at the same effect as the older ones. Most likely adding Anone probably wouldn\'t cause a repelling OD effect if you don\'t put but a few drops on after a shower/bath. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

is this true that showering removes natural pheros? if so would a girl be more attracted to a guy that doesn\'t shower for a few days because of a natural phero build up or sumtin?? i dunno this just interests me cause i always thought cleaner was better, maybe i was wrong /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Elana]

Do everyone a favor and continue to shower on a regular basis /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Phantom]

Showering with soap removes natural pheromones, water doesnt. If you want to keep your natural pheromones but want to shower and keep clean just don\'t wash under your pits and don\'t use deoderants, spray your favorite cologne under your pits instead (it\'ll keep you from stinking and it will act as a carrier and will help disperse your natural pheromone signiture)

Maintain your natural pheromone signiture like this will make it almost impossible for the \"Group Hookup Theory\" to take place, wearing half the dosage of what you normally wear will keep you from OD\'ing (remember to wash the synthetic pheromone application points off with soap or they will accumilate to ungodly amounts)

Check out my old thread

(Editor\'s note: After a request from Phantom I deleted the link that was making this thread super wide)

[EXIT63]

Allright...Who\'s the idiot who stretched out the forum!?!?

STOP THAT!!! It\'s so annoying and totally stupid!

[Elana]

Phantom did it with his super long thread. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Should I kick his butt, Exit?

[EXIT63]

Yeah!!!

[Phantom]

lol thats what bruce gets for making those links to other threads SUPER DUPER looooooooooooooooooong /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
lol thats what bruce gets for making those links to other threads SUPER DUPER looooooooooooooooooong /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

I\'m still going to beat you up.

[Phantom]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
I\'m still going to beat you up.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

I love girls who are frisky and rough, they turn me on! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Cloud9]

Just wore AE in Classes and already got hits without doing anything. Another good thing was it made some of the men around me submissive acting and most of them avoided my sitting area.

[tallmacky]

Excellent Cloud9, just out of curiousity how much did you wear and where did you put it on? How were the hits with the girls maybe a bit more detail and did you have any DIHL\'s, physical contact, and so on. Yeah I am desperate for a hit story.

[DrSmellThis]

You have to listen to what women literally say, but it is also helpful to be mindful of the opposite of what they say, as women are creatures of paradox. IMO, women are often in denial when they say they want men to be freshly showered, especially as regards strangers they might be attracted to. It is something their minds say. I and other self-aware men I know all notice better sexual luck when un-showered. And I have noticed this consistently for many years. Once you are their significant other, it is more true that they like you tame, domesticated, civilized; and yes, showered.

[Cloud9]

Well a woman I\'ve never seen before said \"hey\" when I walked by her because she was staring at me. This alone I\'m not sure was pheromones, because I am unsure of there effective distance. The other hits were when two women sat right next to me and started talking to me at a lecture video, while the guys that came in avoided my sitting area. The third hit as a group of girls was in a lecture class when two girls came to sit down next to me..one just started talking to me and being real friendly and they normally aren\'t. This girl is usually shy. I\'m thinking 2 drops of AE may not be enough I used 3 drops the first hit and the 2 and 3rd I used 3 drops of AE. I think I\'m going to add some SOE to the mix and maybe even a little dab of APC since the none concentration is so low and it smells so good. For now I\'m just going to combine 2-3drops of AE and 3inches SOE. I put one drop on my lower/middle front neck, one drop on the back of my neck, and one drop on the back of my collar for lasting effectiveness, since my collar doesn\'t produce bacteria and sweat. I think you are less likely to OD if you are young as long as you take a shower right before you put them on...this will wash off your natural pheromones. Older guys may not be thrilled about washing their pheromones off but for younger guys that produce more Anone will benefit from this since AE is a concentraded (Anone), Anol, Arone product. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Watcher]

Heres what i did yesterday, got some Attraction scented 6 sprays on my inner shirt and covered in deodorant, now i know BO spray can kill pheromones but the pheromones seemed to keep coming through all day, now women didnt run away due to the smell, because for some strange reason they prefer to be around men with AXA on (been covered on this forum) so im gettin sexual hits and negated the OD problem.
Good advice for others reading this esp newbies.
Applies to ALter ego as well.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Of course, it\'s my duty as Forum Pain In The Rump to argue: I like a guy to be clean and smell like soap and cologne when I meet him. Once we\'ve done the deed and we\'re seeing each other, I like his body smell and would rather smell that than soap. To some women, that\'s a very private thing.

[Phantom]

I\'m not saying to stop showering, or limit showering in any way. Just DON\'T WASH UNDER YOUR PITS, the rest of his body is still going to be squeaky clean and you really don\'t need that much cologne to keep you from smelling like BO (I only need 1 1/2 sprays of Angel/m or any other cologne for it to last all day.).

FTR- I also get acquainted to the natural smell of many women I go out with, one of my best friends (female) naturally smells like beer when she sweats and I sometimes can\'t get enough of her scent!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Cloud9]

sorry, but a woman smelling like beer? Ewww. I would think washing the pits and using more Pheromones would be to your advantage since they don\'t smell as bad as someone\'s armpits...you never know if the woman will be repulsed by it or not. Even with cologne the both of you might be in bed together with her head/nose right next to your pits. BUT, whatever works best for you..that is what is important!

[Phantom]

BO never developes if you spray on the cologne before you do any strenuous exercise, it\'s like Deoderant without the heavy metals and such.

&lt;&lt;sorry, but a woman smelling like beer? Ewww. I would think washing the pits and using more Pheromones would be to your advantage since they don\'t smell as bad as someone\'s armpits...&gt;&gt;

It\'s not like she goes out like that, she only has that scent when I catch her off gaurd /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif.

&lt;&lt;sorry, but a woman smelling like beer? Ewww. I would think washing the pits and using more Pheromones would be to your advantage since they don\'t smell as bad as someone\'s armpits...&gt;&gt;

There\'s alot of pheromones that lets say a product like AE does\'nt contain (theres around a hundred or more) that would only be found in your natural sweat than any other product here at love-scent. It\'s also your own distinct signature, it distinguishes you from everyone else and blending it with synthetic pheromones makes it almost impossible for a girl to mistake that high Anone or Anol signature from you or the Joe Shmoe thats sitting next to you.

[Phantom]

(points up) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Cloud9]

So what pheromones do you use, and what would be a good suggestion for me with SOE and AE? I also have some APC from the past that worked well. Signature!

[Phantom]

Well right now i\'m testing out my new mix (AE/m + PPA/w) in a 1:1 ratio, I do have SOE but they are the Gels and I have\'nt really had the time to test AE/m and SOE in conjunction with each other. I think there was a mix way back with SOE and AE but I can\'t really remember what the ratios were.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

It\'s interesting to me how body smell changes when sexual arousal begins. I\'ve been with SDR when we\'ve had company ... then the company leaves and we start messing around ... within five minutes, his body smell changes. His sweat smells different. I like that smell a lot.

But if some stranger walked up to me smelling like that it would seem too personal and would put me off.

[Phantom]

Yea it\'s like a great clean sweat smell is\'nt it? I get it everytime.. I, um, test the tubes. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

It is a great smell.

[tallmacky]

yeah but what happens after a night and you wake up beside him? Is the smell as nice?

[Phantom]

Well I know that question was direct to FTR but the cologne acts just like Deoderant, you dont smell any signs of BO, though if he wore no deoderant or cologne, by the time he would have woken up the bacteria in his armpits would of converted any of those compounds into Anone or other more smelly pheromones.

(Note: the alcohol in the Colgone kills the bacteria)

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I don\'t let anyone spend the night, so I really don\'t know.

[Alquimista]

\"So what pheromones do you use, and what would be a good suggestion for me with SOE and AE?\"

Cloud9, I am trying right now a new mix of AE/m and SOEgel that theorically will be the bomb. It is 2 dabs of AE applyed on neck + 1/6 of SOE gel pack applyed on pulses and hair. I tryed today for the first time and I got some buying signals from some girls. However I will just post my final conclusion within one week. I will keeping using this mix for this all week. If you want try it and then we will change some conclusions. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[tallmacky]

lots of nol and none going on I guess the nol heavy mixes are proving thereselves to many as for me I like alot of none. I would be surprised if a line of product came out using -rone as the dominate pheromone (I know of the CS - rone).

[Cloud9]

Yeah, I\'m going to use 2-3 drops of AE/m and maybe 2-3 roll spots of SOE. I have the bottle of SOE. So far good results.

[Cloud9]

Is anyone not able to smell their AE/m new? It\'s like I can just barely smell something. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Phantom]

yea I just smell the fragrance. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[Cloud9]

I can\'t smell Sh*T

[Alquimista]

Cloud9: This is really strange, because I think that AE is the product that has the best smell. It smells as a expensive perfume that I do not need to cover it. You may have some nose problems.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Cloud9]

That or I just got a crappy bottle..lol Does Love-scent sell the new AE, because there photo on the web site looks like the old one?

[Phantom]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Cloud9: This is really strange, because I think that AE is the product that has the best smell. It smells as a expensive perfume that I do not need to cover it. You may have some nose problems.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Perfume is for women, Cologne is for men /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif, there\'s probably lots of really great smelling colognes that you have\'nt tried yet. Dont jump the gun /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Phantom]

Where did you get your AE, Love-Scent? or elsewhere /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif?

[Cloud9]

I got it at (another website) because love scent looked like it had the old only

[Alquimista]

Hey Phanton I have a question for you: Does mix a phero with a cologne decrease the concentration of the phero?

[Phantom]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Hey Phanton I have a question for you: Does mix a phero with a cologne decrease the concentration of the phero?

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Yes it decreases the concentration of pheromones per ML.

[Phantom]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
I got it at (another website) because love scent looked like it had the old only

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

lol, GO!! Oscar GO!!

Bruce does\'nt allow linking to other websites /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif.

[Cloud9]

think I got a bad bottle.?.smells like a latex bandaid to me

[Alquimista]

So it is better mix pheros with a cologne just as a last case? I mean, it is better only mix it when we are using a product as TE that has a bad smell and we are trying to get rid of it, isn\'t?

[oscar]

Cloud9,

You may be unaware that it\'s considered bad form to post links to competing websites on the forum. Kind of like me coming to your your place of business and handing out your competitor\'s business cards. Just thought I\'d let you know.
No harm, no foul.

Oscar /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Cloud9]

Put on the pheromone and spray the cologne over it.

I apologize..I just figured you guys were the best hands down so I din\'t think it would hurt.

[Phantom]

I would only mix a product with cologne to dilute a super concentrated product. Instead of mixing them together apply the product then spray whatever amount of cologne after. No need to mix /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Phantom]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
think I got a bad bottle.?.smells like a latex bandaid to me

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Try using OD amounts, lets say 10 drops? and if you get any reactions. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Cloud9]

does love scent sell the new AE/m even though the pic is of the old one?

[Phantom]

YEP! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Alquimista]

Few days ago I was reading a post and somebody was defending a thesis that states that it is good to cover the pheros with a cologne because it helps to spread the pheros on the air. However, it seems that they did not had a conclusion. What do you think about this thesis?

[oscar]

Cloud9,

Chances are, the NEW AE/m might be all Bruce has. I think I recall seeing someone post that they\'d struck out getting the old version. Pity too. It\'s great stuff. I stocked up on three bottles of the old when the new scent was released.

Oscar /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Phantom]

I have the same opinion in my experience it practicly triples the effective distance.

Note: the stronger more (peircing) the scent the farther it travels in my opinion.

[Cloud9]

I think the scent doesn\'t make the mones travel further but I do think the scent lures the attractee towards the source.

[Phantom]

You gotta try it before you make any assumptions, newbie /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Cloud9]

I\'ve tried it with APC . Do you think there is a chance that I got a bad bottle of AE/m from another Mone company? it is the new bottle, but maybe I got jipped on what\'s in it.

[Phantom]

APC is a very low concentrated product, it only contains 0.75mg of Androstenone you\'ll have to throw on half a bottle to get a noticable result /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif. And I think the cook book is wrong because I know for a fact APC does\'nt contain that much, if it did contain that much the bottle is good for 21 applications at a .035 mg dose (thats 14 drops!!!).

[oscar]

Cloud9,

Stone Labs changed the bottle design BEFORE implementing the fragrance change, so what you have MIGHT be the old fragrance even though it\'s in the amber dropper-top bottle.

The old fragrance was very subtle, smelling a lot like a moisturizing lotion. The new fragrance, which I\'m told smells like Rogue Male, is probably a lot more cologne-like.

If you\'ve got the old scent count your blessings. It\'s probably a lot more versatile than the new in that it can be added to other fragrances (both Phero and non-phero) without clashing.

Oscar /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Phantom]

THANK THE HEAVENS!!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[oscar]

Phantom,

Even the spam APC sites claim that there are just 45 applications in a 1oz. bottle. That would be .66mL per application or, yep, about 14 drops or so. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Oscar /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Cloud9]

I hope it is the real deal...I am tempted to order another bottle from you guys just to be sure.

[Phantom]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Phantom,

Even the spam APC sites claim that there are just 45 applications in a 1oz. bottle. That would be .66mL per application or, yep, about 14 drops or so. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Oscar /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

That\'ll only work for dense teenagers cause they love splashing whole bottles of cologne on themselves. 14 Drops would be fragrance OD /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif!, oh wait did I say, um, GO OSCAR GO /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif!!!! lol

[oscar]

Phantom,

That\'s why APC is such a natural for NPA spiking.
I go 5:1 APC to NPA because I always thought the 7:3 ratio literally stunk!

Although, without spiking, the fragrance of APC is so fleeting (in my opinion) that an hour or so after applying a .66mL mega-dose, the scent probably wouldn\'t be overpowering.

Oscar /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Cloud9]

I couldn\'t stop myself! I ordered some more AE/m, but from Love scent this time. Hopefully I\'ll get the new scent and good stuff this time. I\'m paranoid because I can\'t even really smell the other but a bandaid smell, and that could just be some ethanol stuff in it.

[Phantom]

I\'ve tried APC and NPA (JB#1) and got alot of heavy grinding of the lower extremities from my best friend (female) she was in full blow DIHL mode, nipples erect, face flushed, she would stare off into space then grind, space, then grind it was a hilarious cycle /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif (mainly because I was in the school lunch room and 20 or some people were cheering me on /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif) lol.... oh yea I love that NPA stank /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Watcher]

For those that suffer Anone OD try DD#1 (70% SOE and 30% NPA).
It has proven to be the answer so many times and yes i do claim credit for it. My username is Watcher (donaldduck) i got to keep it following the little incident when i had to switch over ages ago.

[Cloud9]

I\'m sure you can get the same reactions from an AE/m and SOE combo, but I\'m not sure How you would work out the ratios. I know NPA has .48 content while AE has .45. I was thinking 2-3 drops of AE and half the SOE used for DD#1. Any ideas?

[Watcher]

DD#1 is NPA and SOE only.
I had a SOE bottle that was 70% full and i filled the other 30% up with NPA and there you go you had DD#1

For AE/SOE id say 2-3 drops AE(M) and 4 dabs of SOE around neck and shoulders and wrists.
You are quite welcome to play around by youreself with the ratios and product types and then tell everyone else on the forum about youre success and failures and youre experiences. This is called being creative and youd be amazed how it can come up with a personalised mix that would work best for you.

[Icemone]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
I\'ve tried APC and NPA (JB#1) and got alot of heavy grinding of the lower extremities from my best friend (female) she was in full blow DIHL mode, nipples erect, face flushed, she would stare off into space then grind, space, then grind it was a hilarious cycle /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif (mainly because I was in the school lunch room and 20 or some people were cheering me on /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif) lol.... oh yea I love that NPA stank /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">


^^^^
Hi Phantom,

Please let me know how this friend of yours reacts
AFTER this.
Any regrets? Angry with you? Embarassed by
her \"naughty\" side coming out in public.

Because I seem to have this happen a LOT---too often!

( even before pheros, although they have made things even more Intense )

Your post reminds me of one of my \"Adventures\" that ended before I wanted it to.
( might still be up in the air and although I\'m seeing other women,
I miss HER and how Great we were together )

PHEROS:
was wearing \"Issy Miake\" covering some
REALM Men/TE
and 3 drops of the older more subtle \"Alter Ego\")

We met and got to know eachother over coffee and walking around the city
before going to my friend\'s going away party at a Club.

Afterwards we went to her place ( after grinding and making out like crazy at the club----this is a
\"shy\" Asian woman who\'s only been with one man before me.
She was attacking me LOL and we couldn\'t get enough
of eachother )

We went back to her place and spent the rest of the weekend in bed. VERY wild and passionate.

Then we went out for a Romantic breakfast and I did everything I could think of to MAKE SURE KNEW
this is Special and was NOT just a one night stand )

After a few AMAZING weeks of this she started to act different
( a no show! to something I invited her to )
and after \"fixing\" things and
getting our communication straightened out and having more fun together she went on a trip to visit a school girlfriend and when she got back
she said she felt so
out of control around me/never met anyone like me
and she needed time to clear her head---her friend probably messed with her head /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Phantom]

lol, it was like she did\'nt even know she was doing it like if she was under hypnosis. She was oblivious to the cheering too and was embarrassed and blussing afterwards. I went over to her place a month after words, I was wearing 5 dabs of TE covered with Gucci Envy, she was all over me, she kept saying how it was hot in the room when it really was\'nt then after about 20 minutes she asked me if it was ok for her to give me oral pleasure, lets say we ended up doing much more than that /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif.

[TBiRD]

yeah TE definetly looses few screws up in a girls head.

btw , speaking of heat : Sometimes I get very hot/red cheeks /ears like few minutes after TE application MYSELF !!!...
Anybody else experienced this ? Its like a blushing , with the only difference , that there is nothing to blush about /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Well it goes away rather quickly , so its not a big deal....however this never happens with PI / AE / Soe or any combo of these....its really something IN TE that makes u + others HOT !

Reading hit stories in the archives , I came across lots of those reports where girls all of a sudden felt \"hot\" though it was cold , simply because \"a TE user\" entered the room.

Damn! its like that stupid joke from \"Demolition Man\" Is it hot in here or is it me ?

[oscar]

TBiRD,

That gettin\' hot thing has had me itchin\' to put up a new theory every time I read about it. The part of the brain that is the front line control center for regulating body heat is the same little bugger we\'re all trying to impact with our pheromones. The Hypothalamus.

http://www.geocities.com/hhugs2001/roleofhyp.htm (\"http://www.geocities.com/hhugs2001/roleofhyp.htm\")

Unfortunately what I need is a research assistant (preferably a recent college graduate, female) who has access to some sophisticated brain scanning equipment.

I also believe there\'s an explanation for DIHL in there somewhere too.

http://members.aol.com/nonverbal2/paleo.htm (\"http://members.aol.com/nonverbal2/paleo.htm\")

http://members.aol.com/nonverbal2/apocrine.htm#APOCRINE%20ODOR (\"http://members.aol.com/nonverbal2/apocrine.htm#APOCRINE%20ODOR\")

http://members.aol.com/nonverbal3/fight.htm (\"http://members.aol.com/nonverbal3/fight.htm\")

http://members.aol.com/nonverbal2/flashbul.htm (\"http://members.aol.com/nonverbal2/flashbul.htm\")

http://members.aol.com/doder1/orient1.htm (\"http://members.aol.com/doder1/orient1.htm\")

I think a lot of what we need to know to understand pheromones and their effects can be found here:

http://members.aol.com/nonverbal2/entries.htm#Entries (\"http://members.aol.com/nonverbal2/entries.htm#Entries\")

I just haven\'t put the pieces all together yet.

\"Fight, Flight, Freeze, or F*ck\" is my working title. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Oscar /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[bundyburger]

This is interesting. I never posted this on the forum, but mentioned it to someone here in a PM.

I had two girls I was speaking to one night (at seperate times) \"Get hot\".
First night I wore \'NPA\' as a matter of fact. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[TBiRD]

To oscar :

Pheeeew good to see I\'m not the only one \"in heat\" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

&lt;&lt;&lt;I just haven\'t put the pieces all together yet.&gt;&gt;&gt;

Well , who else but u ????? GO for it !!!!

+ Would you agree , that this heat thing only happens with TE ??? I mean , I also have PI (wich IS a potent -none weapon) , and even at a 2 drop dosage/application I never experienced any heat - though 2-4 dabs OF TE near to face do it more or less instantly !!!

[CptKipling]

Well I would agree. It also seems that this affect may be amplified by combining TE/NPA with other products/compounds. But this could be entirely subjective.

[tallmacky]

TE\'s secret ingredients I don\'t know what else it could be. I have used TE, SOE, AE/M, PX (pheromax), EO\'s, and PE. I have not gotten the heat reaction from anything but that damn TE. It was cold in the class room and as soon as I went up to my math teacher and the breeze of me hit her, she goes wow its hot in here and starts taking a folder and waving it but no one else was hot at all and she did this the instant I walked up and stopped when I left (I think so). I had a full spray of TE on my shirt so it was a pretty high TE count.

TE is the highest selling product on l-scent right?

[SonnyBlack]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
This is interesting. I never posted this on the forum, but mentioned it to someone here in a PM.

I had two girls I was speaking to one night (at seperate times) \"Get hot\".
First night I wore \'NPA\' as a matter of fact. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
I wonder if this is due to NPA and The Edge\'s secret ingredients. I remeber someone posting once that he thought the secret ingredients might actually be a bit of A1...what do you all think about this??Its kinda weird because wen ive worn NPA around my girl she seems to wanna be super close to me and stuff...doesnt happen with PI/m...i have always wondered if maybe it is A1 in it which makes her not wanna be away from me...

[Phantom]

Watcher posted years ago that he speculated that there was A1 and couplins along with the Anone in NPA.

[SonnyBlack]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Watcher posted years ago that he speculated that there was A1 and couplins along with the Anone in NPA.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
sounds pretty reasonable...does anyone else think this or have noticed any differences between NPA and other none based products that would lead them to believe this??If so post your stories..I feel my curiousity being stirred up again....

[Cloud9]

A1 seems like a good possibility, but I doubt Copulins are in the mix simply for the negatives it can give for the males that wear it.

[Phantom]

lol, what are you talking about? A1 is the pheromone that may cause depression in men, couplins raise testosterone in men and makes them aroused.

[Cloud9]

did you read the negative effects in the online reference when men wear copulins? Not everyone would want to give off the copulin aura. it\'s about attracting females..so A1 is a possibility.

[Phantom]

Thats just speculation, I have had great success using AE/m and PPA/w. PPA/w is a womens product with aNol and couplins and it has been discused on the forum that it makes women more competitive in trying to attract you.

[Cloud9]

I think Copulins would be ok if you were trying to score, but if you found a girl to keep, then you might want to do away with them I would think.

[CptKipling]

Using cops applyed separately (I dont use it in mixes any more) can be interesting. My experiences support Whitehall\'s orgy theory, but not all the reacitons are sexual. People can just get giggly and stupid, which is great fun at school /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Icemone]

Thanks Phantom,

This helps.

Had a VERY WILD Weekend!!!

The irony is that it was PURELY PHYSICAL and yet will probably be on going Adventures.

Maybe I cared too much for this one woman I was referring to in my previous posts ?

( also an issue with her instability /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Your response sheds some light /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

So you didn\'t sleep with her that same night and she probably had time to
deal with her responses to you.

Yes, Pacing better and Chosing more Wisely!

Thanks again