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bivonic
04-02-2003, 03:47 PM
U.S. Navy Capt. Ouimette is the XO of NAS, Pensacola. Here is a copy of the
speech he gave earlier this month. A wonderful and accurate account
of why we are in trouble today.
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America WAKE UP!
That\'s what we think we heard on the 11th of September 2001 and maybeit was, but I think it should have been \"Get Out of Bed!\" In fact, I think the alarm clock has been buzzing since 1979 and we have continued to hit the snooze button and roll over for a few more minutes of peaceful sleep since then.
It was a cool fall day in November 1979 in a country going through a religious and political upheaval when a group of Iranian students attacked and seized the American Embassy in Tehran. This seizure was an
outright attack on American soil; it was an attack that held the world\'s most powerful country hostage and paralyzed a Presidency. The attack on this sovereign US embassy set the stage for the events to follow for the next 23 years.
America was still reeling from the aftermath of the Viet Nam experience and had a serious threat from the Soviet Union when then, President Carter, had to do something. He chose to conduct a clandestine raid in the desert. The ill-fated mission ended in ruin, but stood as a symbol of America\'s inability to deal with terrorism. America\'s military had been decimated and down-sized/right-sized since the end of the Viet Nam War. A poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly organized military was called on to execute a complex mission that was doomed from the start.
Shortly after the Tehran experience, Americans began to be kidnapped and killed throughout the Middle East. America could do little to protect her citizens living and working abroad. The attacks against US soil continued. In April of 1983 a large vehicle packed with high explosives was driven into the US Embassy compound in Beirut. When it explodes, it kills 63 people. The alarm went off again and America hit the Snooze Button once more. Then just six short months later a large truck heavily laden down with over 2500 pounds of TNT smashed through the main gate of the US Marine Corps headquarters in Beirut. 241 US servicemen are killed. America mourns her dead and hit the Snooze Button once more. Two months later in December 1983, another truck loaded with explosives is driven into the US Embassy in Kuwait, and America continues her slumber. The following year, in September 1984, another van was driven into the gates of the US Embassy in Beirut and America slept.
Soon the terrorism spreads to Europe. In April 1985 a bomb explodes in a restaurant frequented by US soldiers in Madrid. Then in August a Volkswagen loaded with explosives is driven into the main gate of the US Air Force Base at Rhein-Main, 22 are killed and the Snooze Alarm is buzzing louder and louder as US soil is continually attacked. Fifty-nine days later a cruise ship, the Achille Lauro is hijacked and we watched as an American in a wheelchair is singled out of the passenger list and executed. The terrorists then shift their tactics to bombing civilian airliners when they bomb TWA Flight 840 in April of 1986 that killed 4 and the most tragic bombing, Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland in 1988, killing 259. America wants to treat these terrorist acts as crimes; in fact we are still trying to bring these people to trial. These are acts of war...the Wake Up alarm is louder and louder.


The terrorists decide to bring the fight to America. In January 1993, two CIA agents are shot and killed as they enter CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. The following month, February 1993, a group of terrorists are arrested after a rented van packed with explosives is driven into the underground parking garage of the World Trade Center in New York City. Six people are killed and over 1000 are injured. Still this is a crime and not an act of war? The Snooze alarm is depressed again.
Then in November 1995 a car bomb explodes at a US military complex in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia killing seven service men and women. A few months later in June of 1996, another truck bomb explodes only 35 yards from the US military compound in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. It destroys the Khobar Towers, a US Air Force barracks, killing 19 and injuring over 500.
The terrorists are getting braver and smarter as they see that America does not respond decisively. They move to coordinate their attacks in a simultaneous attack on two US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. These attacks were planned with precision, they kill 224. America responds with cruise missile attacks and goes back to sleep.

The USS Cole was docked in the port of Aden, Yemen for refueling on 12 October 2000, when ! a small craft pulled along side the ship and exploded killing 17 US Navy Sailors. Attacking a US War Ship is an act of war, but we went the FBI to investigate the crime and went back to sleep.
And of course you know the events of 11 September 2001. Most Americans think this was the first attack against US soil or in America. How wrong they are. America has been under a constant attack since 1979 and we chose to hit the snooze alarm and roll over and go back to sleep.
In the news lately we have seen lots of finger pointing from every high official in government over what they knew and what they didn\'t know. But if you\'ve read the papers and paid a little attention I think you can see exactly what they knew. You don\'t have to be in the FBI or CIA or on the National Security Council to see the pattern that has been developing since 1979. The President is right on when he says we are engaged in a war. I think we have been in a war for the past 23 years and it will continue until we as a people decide enough is enough.
America has to \"Get out of Bed\" and act decisively now. America has changed forever. We have to be ready to pay the price and make the sacrifice to ensure our way of life continues. We cannot afford to hit the Snooze Button again and roll over and go back to sleep. We have to make the terrorists know that in the words of Admiral Yamamoto after the attack on Pearl Harbor \"that all they have done is to awaken a sleeping giant.\"

Thank you very much.

Dan Ouimette
Pensacola Civitan
19 Feb 2003
God Bless America! The only country undeniably founded on a good idea

Watcher
04-02-2003, 10:10 PM
What america needs to do is support the United Nations more, through better funding and provide many more billions in aid to poorer countries instead of spending 1$ trillion on aid and 10$Billion on aid per year, try $50 billion to aid agencies and you might find these acts are reduced, stop supporting isreal so much for another, i mean tell them to actually remove their settlements and give the palestians some actual terriorty and self governance. Stop rolling over and sleeping, come up with humane solutions, stop bombing the crap out of every country and contribute more to their economic development. Stop trying to be the sole world superpower, and increase interdepency across a global sphere, engage china europe, the rest of asia and the rest of the world, stop being so corparate/military in youre dominance of the world and help raise living standards across the globe (THIS WOULD BE THE BIGGEST THING AMERICA CAN DO TO STOP SUCH WARS AND TERRORISM - STOP MAKING THE REST OF THE WORLD JEALOUS AND SHARE TECHNOLOGY AND SECRETS.
Or you could keep up the fortress america policy and pay in the long run.

bivonic
04-03-2003, 04:58 AM
<blockquote><font class=\"small\">In reply to:</font><hr>

stop supporting isreal so much for another

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I used to think why are we supporting Israel, then I read it makes total sense Israel is one of the very few democracies in the ME, no wonder the US is out to protect them, most of the muslim dictatorships want them out of the ME, if the US lets them walk all over Israel, who is next France? /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

<blockquote><font class=\"small\">In reply to:</font><hr>

Stop rolling over and sleeping, come up with humane solutions, stop bombing the crap out of every country and contribute more to their economic development

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1. I didn\'t think the USA was bombing the crap out of every country.
2. So you suggest we bribe them to make them happy so they stop killing our civilians whether overseas or in North America out of jealousy? I believe rule #1 in a terrorist situation is you do not succumb to their bribes &amp; expect everything to be ok, you let one terrorist bribe you &amp; there will be a dozen in line waiting for handouts, holding your daughters hostage all the while.

franki
04-03-2003, 05:06 AM
\"stop supporting isreal so much for another, i mean tell them to actually remove their settlements and give the palestians some actual terriorty and self governance\"

Interestingly, Bush and Blair have made it clear they see it as a (long-term) goal that the Palestinians get there own country. To prove they are serious about it, they are in the process of making a \"road map for peace\". We will just have to wait and see how much effort the USA will bring in this process and if they are serious about it. Meanwhile, the current situation is in no way a valid reason for terrorist attacks on american or israeli citizens.

Franki /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

seadove
04-03-2003, 05:13 AM
&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;Interestingly, Bush and Blair have made it clear they see it as a (long-term) goal that the Palestinians get there own state.&gt;&gt;&gt;

Israel has said that too.Question is will they know how to run their achieved country? Oh come on you guys, you all know that the Palestinian State is more or less like a miniature Iraq!

franki
04-03-2003, 05:17 AM
Well, you can\'t call the current \"Palestinian Authority\" a country or state. That \"Authority\" is a mess and not the same as what Bush and Blair mean when they say country. They want a democratic Palestina that doesn\'t support terrorism. So your comparison is not right I think.

Franki /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

Elana
04-03-2003, 05:27 AM
I don\'t think I will live to see a democratic Arab nation.

seadove
04-03-2003, 05:30 AM
&lt;&lt;&lt;I don\'t think I will live to see a democratic Arab nation. &gt;&gt;&gt;

Yes you will ! Didn\'t I wish you to live till the age of 250 the other day?

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Elana
04-03-2003, 05:31 AM
&lt;&lt;Yes you will ! Didn\'t I wish you to live till the age of 250 the other day?&gt;&gt;

Trust me...it\'s not going to get better as time goes by /ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif

seadove
04-03-2003, 05:58 AM
Next life then?

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hoodas
04-03-2003, 07:12 AM
I would like to add a Muslim\'s perspective on the whole Palestine/Israel discussion, being a Muslim myself and born and lived in Pakistan until the age of 12. I have never really understood the hatred against the Jews that Muslims in general portray. I recall growing up in Pakistan and being taught that Jews are just a tad better than cannibals!! It was like this: worst - cannibals, a little better - Jews, then all other human beings!! I swear when I moved to the US and eventually found out that Jews were \'normal\' people like everyone else I was so surprised!!!

Elana, in response to your statement that you will never live to see an Arab democracy, you may be right. There are some pretty decent Muslim democracies, but an Arab democracy may not be possible. I don\'t mean to be Arab bashing, but c\'mon Saudi Arabia is one of the wealthiest nations in the world and they have almost no political power (in world politics), which tells me that they are a bunch of idiots! (just the government not all Saudis).

Elana
04-03-2003, 07:22 AM
&lt;&lt;Elana, in response to your statement that you will never live to see an Arab democracy, you may be right.&gt;&gt;

This just proves the power of NLP and hypnosis. By just using a few key words, I made a Muslim agree with the Jew. /ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif

I am kidding, I am kidding. Hoodas and I are friends. /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

hoodas
04-03-2003, 07:30 AM
&lt;&lt;I made a Muslim agree with the Jew.&gt;&gt;

My dear, with your charm you can make any agree with the Jews. Hmm, maybe you should fly out to Iraq or Afghanistan, perhaps you would do better than our troops in finding (and then changing his stance) Osama!

MadDoctor
04-03-2003, 07:55 AM
&gt; I don\'t think I will live to see a democratic Arab nation.

Yemen is on the Arabian penninsula, but they have a nice multi-party democracy going.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0221/p07s01-wome.html (\"http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0221/p07s01-wome.html\")

Whitehall
04-03-2003, 08:06 AM
Never been to Yemen, but this article in the Atlantic Monthly doesn\'t support your assertions.

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2003/04/kaplan.htm (\"http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2003/04/kaplan.htm\")

Whitehall
04-03-2003, 08:18 AM
So this guy was talking to the Civitans in Pensacola - that\'s my home town and I used to play baseball in Civitan Park. My first job out of high school was at NAS Pensacola. All my childhood friends were Navy brats.

For a little background, Pensacola is center of a huge military complex in the Florida Panhandle that includes Eglin Air Force Base. The population there is heavily military, both active duty and retired. The low cost of living there and the military services available to retirees plus the warm climate make it especially attractive to military retirees.

Consequently, it is rather conservative and patriotic in outlook yet cosmopolitan and worldly too, in some strange ways.

This speech was most certainly a huge hit with the service club audience. It stayed just this side of the line of political involvement, something that we can\'t allow US military officers to indulge in.

The unanswered question from the speech was what exactly was he proposing to do? I\'d expect Iraq but I think he had grander goals in mind.

MadDoctor
04-03-2003, 01:48 PM
I\'ve never been there either, so all of my impressions are also second-hand. The EU parliament seems content that they are doing the best they can ( www.europarl.eu.int/meetdocs/delegations/mash/20020116/448688en.pdf (\"http://www.europarl.eu.int/meetdocs/delegations/mash/20020116/448688en.pdf\") ), and even the Jerusalem Post commented several years ago that \"If this weekend\'s elections in Yemen are any indication, Israelis may soon have to give up one of their favorite cliches - \'the only democracy in the Middle East\'... around 70 percent of the country\'s people turned out to cast their votes in what international observers called a free and fair exercise in democracy.\" ( http://www.jpost.com/com/Archive/29.Apr.1997/Opinion/Article-1.html (\"http://www.jpost.com/com/Archive/29.Apr.1997/Opinion/Article-1.html\") )

It\'s certainly been marred by violence, particularly since the US got involved in Afghanistan, and it\'s not seemed like an easy road for them, having gone from two warring states, one socialist and one under traditional Islamic, tribal feudalism, but they do have universal suffrage and several parties with a voice in the government.

Worldaudit.org has some interesting ratings of how democratic the governments of the world are. They\'re now a couple of years out of date, but the following scores are good for perspective (scores range from 1-150, the higher they are the less democratic):
Belarus:103, Azerbaijan:132, Cambodia:106, Colombia:90, Georgia:98, Indonesia:103, Kazakhstan:117, Kenya:119, Kyrgyzstan:106, Paraguay:103, Russia:101, Turkmenistan:144, Ukraine:106, Uzbekistan:129, Yemen:99.

We call all of these countries democracies, so if Yemen is in fact more democratic than most of them, in my opinion they deserve some credit for that. There might be hope for Turkey (95), Egypt (115) and Lebanon (119) as well.

Whether we\'d like how Middle Eastern democracies might vote is a whole separate issue, though.

Whitehall
04-03-2003, 01:56 PM
Credit to Yemen granted.

The thing about democracy is that it undercuts one\'s ability to blame someone else for your problems and mistakes. Hence, it encourages realism.

However, as California as proven, democracy doesn\'t mandate political realism.

Watcher
04-03-2003, 09:44 PM
What is needed is greater US aid to ordinary citizens in these countries to encourage strengthening of freedom of the press, real opposition parties. Systems being set-up that reduce the power of the military in domestic affairs etc. Iraq could really be the starting point, however the power of religion needs seperating from the government (Indonesia is doing quite well in this regard)