Spontaneous Orgasms

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I know, you thought I was gonna say Spontaneous Human Combustion.


Ok, remember we talked about spontaneous \"look ma no hands\" orgasms and I was somewhat derisive of the purported frequency of said phenomenon (read: thought it was bullsh!t).


Ok. Those of you who have or claim to have this happen to you -- this is what happened to me. Tell me if you would call this an orgasm: I got a hot email and started to spasm rhythmically and pretty forcefully inside. It feels exactly to me like the tail end of an orgasm, when you\'re getting your breath back and you realize you can feel your heart between your legs, you\'re still contracting hard inside although your body is at rest.

Are you calling that an orgasm, if it only happens in your pussy and it\'s not the whole body thing where your whole body rocks?

[seadove]

What will you think of next? An international spontaneous orgasm?

One in DC, one in Miami, one in London, one in Essen Germany and one In Tel Aviv./ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif

Here we go !!


One.......................two..................... ......THREE !

K A P O O M

/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif

[franki]

WOW, that orgasm was good. /ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif

[Elana]

Damn....my body is still shaking

[Elana]

I assume that the email that got you so hot was from me, right? Relax babe.....I\'ll try to go easy on you next time. /ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Buncha smartasses. Smart Asses. There. Note to Franki -- if you have to explain why something is funny, it probably isn\'t.

[franki]

\"smartmasses\" /ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif

(for those of you who don\'t understand why this is funny: Right after being called a smartass I make some sort of a smart-ass remark. That is irony. /ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif )

[seadove]

Masses?

[CJ01]

It doesn´t sound like a real orgasm to me. Sounds more like you just got really turned on from whatever it was.
But how would I know what your O´s are like or not...I suppose if it had been a real one you´d know wouldn´t you? But if you did whow, hey good for you!!! /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
Difficult to tell - for someone else.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I still think the whole spontaneous O thing is bullshit. I\'m trying to get the spontaneous O women to tell me exactly what is happening to them physically.

I call what happened to me \"flutters.\"

That\'s not an orgasm.

I think the spontaneous O people don\'t have orgasms, they have flutters and think that\'s the big O.

This is my theory.

Those were real hard flutters, though, more than I\'ve ever had before. Which is why I posted. I was thinking, hm, I bet that\'s what they\'re talking about. I could see if you didn\'t know any better why you could think it was an O.

[Lucky]

Mine aren\'t always the same. What IS consistent is that I loose control and really have no idea what my physical body is doing, so, I can\'t really answer your question.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

RIGHT! Which I don\'t think would happen in public without your being taken to a hospital unless someone knew what was happening to you.

I think these no hands orgasms are just hard flutters.

What do you think, Lucky?

[Lucky]

They sure aren\'t in the same category as the penis-aided orgasms!!!! But, better than nothing and certainly unconventional.

Red, must you have the perfect orgasm every single time???? How\'d you get so demanding? Here\'s your new nickname: Penis Killer.

[CJ01]

I read years ago that women wearing loveballs got similar effects when like riding on a bus etc due to the vibrations.

[Lucky]

Loveballs, riding a bike or horse, water, all good - but, not the hands-free type FTR is talking about. Right?

[Phantom]

http://www.sexshop-99.com/Shop/export/images/products/512915.jpg

LOL, you ever tried em FTR?

[CJ01]

No it´s not the same. But I just remembered those things somehow. I guess they put a permanent smile on your face though /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

No orgasm is ever totally `spontaneous´ anyhow is it.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Gee, thanks, that\'s flattering.

Yeah, I work toward the perfect orgasm every time and usually get it. If it\'s not full body ... I\'m not happy. But it\'s not the guy\'s responsibility.

Flutters are cool but I don\'t count them as O\'s. Sounds like you do.

Which is interesting to me because that\'s what I suspected - it\'s a matter of how you define orgasm.

[CJ01]

Have you ever tried them /ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

No, I never have.

[CJ01]

What about phantom

[**DONOTDELETE**]

No, I\'ve never tried Phantom, either.

[Phantom]

lol, im 1000% PURE manlyness! /ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Sounds a heck of a lot better to me than those little metal balls...

[CJ01]

hehe /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

[CJ01]

They come in different types of material I think and I wouldn´t choose metal ones myself either.
They´re designed for `during the day´ I think

[**DONOTDELETE**]

During the day??

[CJ01]

Yeah, they´re not for when you´re having sex as far as I know.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

For keeping up your kegels?

[CJ01]

Your what?

[Phantom]

http://www.helioshealth.com/pregnancy/weight_exercise/kegels.html (\"http://www.helioshealth.com/pregnancy/weight_exercise/kegels.html\")

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Those kegel exercises that keep your sex muscles strong. I\'d imagine gripping those balls all day long inside you would do something for you along those lines, right?

[CJ01]

No they´re for sexual pleasure. I guess that muscle thing could be a side effect somehow..? Dunno to tell the truth.

[MadDoctor]

My wife\'s played with those before, although they were plastic ones, not metal. She likes \'em. They definitely don\'t go with penetration, but can be lots of fun on places like dance floors, in a rocking chair, etc. If you want a REAL no-hands orgasm, I\'d put my money on those, the little strap-on vibrators, or a combination of both. Just don\'t try both in a very public place, unless you\'re prepared for people to rush up to you and see if you\'re OK, since you\'re panting, flushed, and your knees have gone out from under you...

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I had a conversation with a very open minded guy friend, one of the people I respect most in the world, who told me about a female friend of his who wanted to watch a porno movie after dinner one night and asked if he minded if it was lesbian porn. She thought she would like to be with other women. So he says Good god, what next? You\'ll ask me to drink a cold beer? IS there no end to your demands? joking - so they watch this lesbian porn and the women are slamming each other with great huge dildos and being quite rough with each other. The woman was shocked because the reason she thought it would be better sex with women is that she thought women were gentler, and it turns out you barely had to breathe on her before she would have an orgasm.


I said show me what she looked like when she had an orgasm.


He showed me something that looked like a flutter.


To me, orgasm is the thing that Meg Ryan was faking in When Harry Met Sally. The real thing of that is an orgasm.


One gasp and a tremble equals a flutter.


If that\'s what the spontaneous orgasm is, then I bet we can all say we have them.


Isn\'t it weird how because we don\'t ejaculate we can talk about what\'s an orgasm and what isn\'t an orgasm? /ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif There\'s no ambiguity for guys.

[MadDoctor]

> Isn\'t it weird how because we don\'t ejaculate...

No?
http://www.the-clitoris.com/n_html/n_ejacula.htm (\"http://www.the-clitoris.com/n_html/n_ejacula.htm\")
http://www.very-koi.net/tutor/female/female.htm (\"http://www.very-koi.net/tutor/female/female.htm\")

[Whitehall]

Those were terrible links! A booby trap.

I got about 10 uninvited and difficult to close screens screens of one of them. Please show a bit more care in keeping the links clean.

[MadDoctor]

Sorry, I didn\'t know because I don\'t allow javascript.

Turn javascript off (in your browser) before you go to those links and you should be fine.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

MadDoc, have you personally been with any women who ejaculate?

[MadDoctor]

Yes, two of them. One who did often and who understood what was happening with her, and one who did infrequently and had no knowledge of the concept at all. The former considered it to be a pretty wonderful discovery, said it felt fantastic and greatly improved sex for her. That was what inspired me to pass the info on.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

We know all about it, thanks. /ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif

Most of us do not ejaculate.

Which is why we can have discussions about whether or not something is an orgasm.

[CJ01]

FTR, women do officially ( according to medics) ejaculate. It´s not the same type of ejaculation men have. Mind you if a woman said to you `spunk all over my tits´ well that would barely be possible but nevertheless... /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

[Icemone]

Hi FulltiltRedhead, MadDoc, all,

I\'d like to hear more about others\' experiences with this and I\'ll share more if anyone is interested.

I LOVE when women ejaculate because with the incredible power of those Orgasms there is NO DOUBT LOL

Also, it can be \"taught\" as long as the woman is willing and man is highly skilled /ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

There is also something called Orgasm on Command or Orgasm at will and the experiences vary from \"flutters\" to \"full body orgasms\"

It depends on the persons, the level of trust, the place it is happening, etc.

( on Stage when someone who is uninhibited is on vacation and will never see the people/audience again and
they are experiencing a deep trance.
Or in the private between people with a VERY DEEP level of Trust and an open minded Adventurous Spirit to Explore ALL the Possiblilties... )

[Lucky]

<Also, it can be \"taught\" as long as the woman is willing and man is highly skilled >

I WANT TO LEARN! Can you teach us on the forum?

[Lucky]

The metal is fine. The ones in the photo posted looked huge to me. He puts them in me, has me wear them around for a little while, and he takes them out. They are dripping wet, I\'m ready to go (like I wouldn\'t be anyhow) and he is too.

[Lucky]

Yeah, I suppose I consider any paroxysmal genital activity that is pleasurable as orgasmic....not very discerning, am I? I don\'t think I have had an orgasm as benign as a \"flutter\".

I meant Penis Killer as flattery, the highest form.

[MadDoctor]

> <Also, it can be \"taught\" as long as the woman is willing and man is highly skilled >
> I WANT TO LEARN! Can you teach us on the forum?

I think that maybe \"teach\" is a little ambiguous, since guys have no subjective knowledge of how it\'s different for women. The most a guy can do, in my opinion, is to get her information from other women (as on those websites, there are even a couple of videos on the topic, like \"How to Female Ejaculate\"), and give a really good G-spot massage with whatever appendage works best. Of course a woman can do this herself, too, I guess it\'s mostly a matter of what makes one most relaxed and undistracted...

I suppose the key elements are realizing that (a) men have a set of muscles that take care of things automatically, women do not and require fairly solid friction on their g-spot to make it happen, and (b) letting go. I gather that, when close to orgasm with the right kind of friction happening, many women will feel something like a need to pee, even if they have nothing in their bladder. In this society, most women have not been raised to think of female ejaculation as normal (as opposed to parts of Africa where older women teach the younger ones as part of initiation into womanhood), when it may occasionally happen to them they think they just got carried away and became momentarily incontinent. Don\'t fight it, go with it.

Something also has to go on with the pubococcygeal muscles, the best description I\'ve been able to get is: \"if a normal, squeezing kegel is making things go upwards, this would be making things go downwards.\" There seems to be some relaxing of the muscles at the very base of the abdomen, and a little tightening of them in the lower tummy (I can only tell you what I can personally observe, sorry about the vagueness -- more detail is on those web pages I think). Have a towel ready, and be prepared to make a larger than usual wet spot. Do not expect to get it figured out on the first few tries, it may take a little getting the hang of. If you have an accomplice in learning this, he/she will probably feel your g-spot pushing out firmly against the finger/weenie/whatever at the critical moment.

The only thing I\'d add to what the web pages say, which might surprise someone who\'s in the learning process is: the first few, or several times you do it it may not really be like water. It may have almost the consistency of dilute glycerine, very slippery and viscous, and smell like some sort of musky, meaty broth. I guess that\'s the result of having held it in for so long.

If only for Bruce\'s comfort, I\'d prefer PMs for going into any more detail. /ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif

[Lucky]

<he/she will probably feel your g-spot pushing out firmly against the finger/weenie/whatever at the critical moment.
>

I\'ll try that...and will pm you with the results. I LOVE experimenting with new techniques!

Thanks for responding.

[Icemone]

Hi Lucky, MadDoc, all,

^^^^Do not expect to get it figured out on the first few tries, it may take a little getting the hang of. If you have an accomplice in learning this, he/she will probably feel your g-spot pushing out firmly against the finger/weenie/whatever at the critical moment.
^^^^^

Oh, but what FUN it will be /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

Great posts and since you sound like you\'ve got the willingness and Adventurous spirit you will most
likely be GREATLY REWARDED /ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

Another very helpful tip that I didn\'t see mentioned is to
put DOWNWARD PRESSURE around your Pubic Bone
while applying the
UPWARD PRESSURE on your G-spot----while lying down. Adjust to position LOL
Doggie would be in and DOWN.

If your navel is 12\' Clock it is easier to keep track of all the \"parts\"

( Imagine yourself lying down on your back.
One hand pushes down around your pubic bone while your other hand/finger/Dildo/Curved G-spot vibrator/Penis stimulates your G-spot upwards. Or in a \"come hither\" motion. In and up towards your Clitoris and back outwards )

P.s. The stronger your PC/Kegels the more forceful the ejaculate and apparently also the pleasure LOL
So if you were to do your Kegels while
reading this and other posts...

[Lucky]

I tried it last night, felt it somewhat, but was not successful. What I did feel was real good, though.

Are you saying to use my hands for the upward pressure?

[**DONOTDELETE**]

\"I LOVE when women ejaculate because with the incredible power of those Orgasms there is NO DOUBT\"

Uh-huh.

I bet you like it when she\'s loud, too.

/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif ladies

[Elana]

/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif lol

[**DONOTDELETE**]

The pressure never ends. /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

[koolking1]

There\'s an excellent book available at Barnes&Noble and, I imagine, most other larger booksellers, title is, you guessed it, The G-Spot. The easiest way to find the g-spot is (takes two obviously) to have the woman lie face down on her stomach. Her partner should then insert two fingers into her vagina with the palm side down and make a \"c\'mere\" motion against the top of the vagina wall. It\'s supposed to feel a little spongy (the actual g-spot). In my Suzy, it\'s not spongy at all but kind of balloon like, I rub it and it seems to balloon up a bit and it does drive her wild. She enjoys it immensley and orgasms strongly. She does not however ever have a female ejaculation and not many women ever do. A friend of mine (male) and I had a long conversation on this topic once and he\'s been with many women, in the hundreds, whilst I\'ve had less experience but still have had more than my fair share I suppose. His contention was that no woman could ever ejaculate without g-spot stimulation. I rejected that as I was once with a woman, about 45 years of age and totally sexually frustrated, and she had an ejaculation from my licking her clitoris. It really caught me by surprise and I got a mouthful of a not unpleasant tasting liquid. This woman told me that this had never happened to her before and it was also quite a surprise to her and she didn\'t find it embarrassing. Luckily I knew a little about it and was able to explain it to her. I\'ve known two other women who do ejacualate regularly during sex. One of them who is hopelessly ashamed of things sexual (she never even masturbates) is quite ashamed of it. The other didn\'t seem to pay it much mind, as if it was just something normal to her. My own opinion about it is that women should not feel that it\'s something to strive for. As many times as I\'ve stimulated Suzy\'s g-spot, she\'s never ejaculated and it doesn\'t concern her at all - she does have pretty good orgasms and is content. Without going into numbers, I can honestly say that few, very few women do ejaculate and I\'m pretty good about being considerate in giving orgasms.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Honey, we could have told you that. /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif I guess maybe it needed to be said for the guys\' sake. Seriously, there are some extremely sexually experienced women on this forum, who, if they were going to ejaculate, would have. Most of us don\'t and we sure don\'t see it as a failing. Many of us are happy that we don\'t.

It\'s not something I\'m real interested in. It\'s a nuisance for oral, especially if you\'re on top and he comes up sputtering when you half drown him, and a nuisance in general, with the bigger wet spot. I come just fine without ejaculating.

The easiest way to find the G spot is to feel for an area of skin that\'s ridged like the roof of your mouth. That\'s very easy to feel, when the skin everywhere else inside is completely smooth. Most women can find their own. It\'s not that far back.

[koolking1]

Actually, it\'s not that easy for me as my fingers are on the short side (no, there\'s no corelation to size of the other appendage). And, I concur that sexually experienced women would already know the \"facts\" but there is the possibility that there might exist a woman on this forum who doesn\'t so I thought to mention it. What harm was done, eh??

[Blackwidow_Woman]

Ok hey FTR , remember me and do you still have this prob with beliving that you can have a spontaneous orgasms.. gee ive been gone to long!!!! hehehehe!! Im back for a breif period.. /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

[Icemone]

Hi Lucky, all,

Use whatever is available LOL and if you\'re good I
might come over /ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

Yes, the combination is very effective. Internal stimulation of your G-spot while pushing down a bit around your pubic bone.

And if you were to also have your clitoris stimulated...Hmm!
Where there is a will there is a way.

The fun is in the playing and even if you don\'t \"squirt\" it sure feels great, right? And that is the important part.

And yes, FullTilt I like it when women enjoy themselves, especially with me.
( how do you think I got the nick name Icemone/Icemoan : )