bivonic
03-07-2003, 04:27 AM
I\'ve always felt more comfortable going out to bars with a friend to meet girls, whenever I\'ve flown solo I\'ve been in the wrong state of mind, almost bringing the Clint Eastwood effect upon myself when solo.
Wingman #1
Unless you have a real good wingman I think it\'s counter productive. I was at my local bar with a guy I used to play pool with, it didn\'t help matters that I stopped drinking for lent. He was a little loaded, he\'s a few inches shorter then me & he\'s missing a few fingers on each of his hands, to top things off he has a very bad stutter. He means well, but he is very touchy feely, not only to his guy friends but any girls he meets or to the waitresses. To make matters even worse his lines are horrendous, when my girl Sally would come by he always said something to embarrass himself, \"You are beautiful.\" He\'d tell her, \"I feel blessed whenever you come by.\" Plus he is putting his hand on her shoulder, arm, forearm, you name it. She tolerated it because she was a friend of mine she would even look over at me while she was sitting down and I would smile at her & she would give me this long face like get this loser off of me & then she would stand up & do a little dance for me. I guess I should have said something to my friend but he\'s pretty sensitive & he was not doing any harm, when he put his arm around me I said to him, \"don\'t put your arm around me.\" He got the hint & gave me kind of a shocked look, but I just left it at that. Lastly to try to be funny he would say things to try & demean me. When I would fire something back he would say, \"Oh hey buddy if I\'m crossing the line just let me know.\" Needless to say I won\'t be taking him out to meet women anytime soon.
Wingman #2
My roommate. Nice very outgoing guy, not the brightest. I can get him to approach any girl or groups of girls & he will say something really bad like, \"So you come here often?\" Followed up by, \"What\'s your sign?\" He\'d be smiling & almost laughing at himself so they would know he\'s not serious. When hanging in pubs with pool tables with music playing he\'d start dancing by himself, a little embarrassing for me, but sometimes girls start to laugh at him & it gives him an excuse to go talk to them. When he gets high or has not gotten his ZZZ\'s he\'s useless & I usually do not work chicks when he is in that state of mind because he\'s a zombie. Biggest problem is he\'ll approach 5\'s & 6\'s when I want nothing to do with them, I generally want to approach at least 7\'s if not 8\'s. Not the ideal situation, but the best wingman (even with his shortcomings) that I have.
Wingman #3
I no longer hang out with this friend of mine. He\'s the rich guy, drives a mercedes convertible, commercial real estate broker, the better looking friend of the group & pretty suave with the ladies. Problem is it\'s all about him, he\'s extermely arrogant & power driven & will just assume stab you in the back then shake your hand. Constantly doing things behind your back to common friends to project his image & lower yours. He\'s notorious for hitting on his friends girlfriends or wives, to the point of asking for their card, phone number or asking them out. I never felt comfortable working women with him because I could never trust him & whenever I went to the bathroom or saw him whispering in some girls ear while looking at me I would always have to 2nd guess what he\'s up to.
Wingman #4
Similar to #3 above but not as rich, not as suave - which in a way was a good thing. He was way too goofy though, think Chandler from Friends without the laughs, tried way too hard to get a laugh always seemed like he was putting on a show to hide who he really was. He was almost like a cartoon character he was so fake.
Not sure if these sound like horror stories or if I made myself out to look like a jerk with high standards for a wingman. I\'d really like to know what frame of mind I need to be in to fly solo. My good friend from Boston flies solo all the time & is quite successful, I guess I\'ll have to ask for some pointers from him next time we hang out.
Forgot to mention, because of my firewall at work I can no longer post here during the day /ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif So if I don\'t respond until tomorrow that\'s why.
Wingman #1
Unless you have a real good wingman I think it\'s counter productive. I was at my local bar with a guy I used to play pool with, it didn\'t help matters that I stopped drinking for lent. He was a little loaded, he\'s a few inches shorter then me & he\'s missing a few fingers on each of his hands, to top things off he has a very bad stutter. He means well, but he is very touchy feely, not only to his guy friends but any girls he meets or to the waitresses. To make matters even worse his lines are horrendous, when my girl Sally would come by he always said something to embarrass himself, \"You are beautiful.\" He\'d tell her, \"I feel blessed whenever you come by.\" Plus he is putting his hand on her shoulder, arm, forearm, you name it. She tolerated it because she was a friend of mine she would even look over at me while she was sitting down and I would smile at her & she would give me this long face like get this loser off of me & then she would stand up & do a little dance for me. I guess I should have said something to my friend but he\'s pretty sensitive & he was not doing any harm, when he put his arm around me I said to him, \"don\'t put your arm around me.\" He got the hint & gave me kind of a shocked look, but I just left it at that. Lastly to try to be funny he would say things to try & demean me. When I would fire something back he would say, \"Oh hey buddy if I\'m crossing the line just let me know.\" Needless to say I won\'t be taking him out to meet women anytime soon.
Wingman #2
My roommate. Nice very outgoing guy, not the brightest. I can get him to approach any girl or groups of girls & he will say something really bad like, \"So you come here often?\" Followed up by, \"What\'s your sign?\" He\'d be smiling & almost laughing at himself so they would know he\'s not serious. When hanging in pubs with pool tables with music playing he\'d start dancing by himself, a little embarrassing for me, but sometimes girls start to laugh at him & it gives him an excuse to go talk to them. When he gets high or has not gotten his ZZZ\'s he\'s useless & I usually do not work chicks when he is in that state of mind because he\'s a zombie. Biggest problem is he\'ll approach 5\'s & 6\'s when I want nothing to do with them, I generally want to approach at least 7\'s if not 8\'s. Not the ideal situation, but the best wingman (even with his shortcomings) that I have.
Wingman #3
I no longer hang out with this friend of mine. He\'s the rich guy, drives a mercedes convertible, commercial real estate broker, the better looking friend of the group & pretty suave with the ladies. Problem is it\'s all about him, he\'s extermely arrogant & power driven & will just assume stab you in the back then shake your hand. Constantly doing things behind your back to common friends to project his image & lower yours. He\'s notorious for hitting on his friends girlfriends or wives, to the point of asking for their card, phone number or asking them out. I never felt comfortable working women with him because I could never trust him & whenever I went to the bathroom or saw him whispering in some girls ear while looking at me I would always have to 2nd guess what he\'s up to.
Wingman #4
Similar to #3 above but not as rich, not as suave - which in a way was a good thing. He was way too goofy though, think Chandler from Friends without the laughs, tried way too hard to get a laugh always seemed like he was putting on a show to hide who he really was. He was almost like a cartoon character he was so fake.
Not sure if these sound like horror stories or if I made myself out to look like a jerk with high standards for a wingman. I\'d really like to know what frame of mind I need to be in to fly solo. My good friend from Boston flies solo all the time & is quite successful, I guess I\'ll have to ask for some pointers from him next time we hang out.
Forgot to mention, because of my firewall at work I can no longer post here during the day /ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif So if I don\'t respond until tomorrow that\'s why.