Pheromones are about to be made illegal in the USA

[xvs]

Pheromones will be made illegal in the USA under this bill - H.R. 5564.

This bill is going to pass unless EVERYONE writes their congressmen. PLEASE DO IT TODAY.

Here\'s the background info:
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2003/mar2003_dhea_01.html (\"http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2003/mar2003_dhea_01.html\")

Note that the bill has been renamed from H.R. 207 to H.R. 5564

Here is an email that a congressman posted about the issue:

www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/userletter/?letter_id=15049656 (\"http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/userletter/?letter_id=15049656\")

Please sign the sample letter or write your own, and mail it to your Congressional Representative.

To find your Congressional Representatives, call the U.S. Capitol Switchboard at 1-202-225-3121. If you want to discuss this with your representative, you can be connected to his or her office directly.

You can also find out who your Congressional Representative is and send an e-mail letter by accessing the web site www.house.gov. (\"http://www.house.gov.\")

Sample Letter:

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Date:

The Honorable
United States House of Representatives
Washington, D.C. 20515


Dear Representative:

It has come to my attention that a bill (H.R. 5564) has been introduced that aims to classify a wide variety of nutritional supplements as controlled substances. As a consumer of nutritional supplement products, I am gravely concerned about the consequences of this bill.

This bill represents an abuse of the legislative system, and a blatant misuse of the controlled substance act. How can the government vote overnight to make criminal the possession of substances that have been used safely for years by millions of Americans? How can the government allow the attorney general to classify compounds as controlled substances without determining the existence of appropriate toxicological or pharmacological activity? Was the controlled substance act enacted with the intention that it be used as a political tool?

If the government believes nutritional supplements such as pregnenolone and DHEA are unsafe and wishes to restrict access to them, then let it do so through already established legitimate means. Let the government produce the evidence that these substances are a risk to individuals and society, or that they meet the legal/scientific qualifications to be listed as controlled substances. Then, and only then, should the government be allowed to act.

If this bill is passed it will directly affect the freedoms and lives of millions of Americans, including mature individuals that use DHEA and pregnenolone for anti-aging / disease-prevention purposes.

Please vote NO on H.R. 5564.

Sincerely,

Name:

Address:

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Bruce, please do not move this to the health forum because we need everyone to write their congressman, and the health forum gets much less traffic.

[bsxs]

That can be a good thing also. They\'ll be rarer. Mwahaha, more chicks for me.

[TBiRD]

Holy [bad word] ! What if they shut down all the labs ????????

No chicks for u dude /ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif

[xvs]

If they\'re illegal in the USA, love-scent will have to stop selling them and you won\'t be able to get pheromones very easily at all.

Don\'t post here, write your congressman now!

[bsxs]

Good point. EEEEK!

[SonnyBlack]

that would suck...

[SonnyBlack]

Bruce what are your thoughts on this?? can it really happen??

[bivonic]

This has been posted before, it does not ban pheromones, it bans PROHormones. But it could lead to a pheromone ban down the road based on the domino theory so it is good to write your congressman if you have not already.

[xvs]

Read the link I posted.

The bill has been modified.

It now bans precursors AND metabolites -- basically all andros.

That means it bans pheromones.

[Bruce]

I just wrote my representative. Personally, I doubt this bill will put an end to pheromones in colognes, but it is a very serious challenge to my right to health, and I am very concerned.
Bruce

[Phantom]

Yea I take DHEA daily and it\'s been the best thing that i\'ve ever used for muscle building.

[xvs]

So did you write to your congressman Phantom?

Do it now!!!

[Bruce]

http://www.house.gov/writerep/ (\"http://www.house.gov/writerep/\")
This link makes it very easy.
Pick out your state, put in your zip code and click go. That will bring you to the email form for your representative.

Make sure to mention the name and number of the bill, then keep it short and sweet and from the heart. It will make a difference.

Bruce

[Phantom]

Thanks bruce I could\'nt find the exact place before. They\'ll be hearing from me now /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

[xvs]

I am writing to urge you to oppose H.R. 5564. I urge your opposition for the following reasons:

1) This bill is poorly constructed: As phrased, this law would make illegal a very large class of compounds, many of which have been in wide use for decades, and some of which are essential. For example, Vitamin D is a \'steroid\' which could be made illegal under the wording of this bill. Additionally other common supplements such as DHEA, which has been shown to be of benefit for many senior citizens, would be made illegal.

2) This bill is unnecessary: The more powerful steroids such as testosterone are already regulated and are available only by prescription.

3) This bill usurps the regulatory authority of the responsible agency: Regulations such as this are appropriately the job of the FDA. If a certain substance is dangerous, they have the resources and authority to regulate it. Such regulation is done after consideration of detailed information on each substance, as is appropriate.

4) Banning entire broad categories of products without careful review is ill-considered and unduly restricts personal choice.

Please help to insure that this bill does not pass.

[TBiRD]

The \"old fart in a chair\" who completely lost track of reality and thus decided it would be a good idea to pass a bill like that , NEEDS a bottle of Primal Instinct (to get him some chicks) so he actually realizes how incredibly stupid he was to come up with an idea like that !


Bruce send those freaks few samples or something - with best wishes from all love-scent members /ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif


+ Gott vergib ihnen , denn sie wissen nicht was sie tun ! Amen !

[Watcher]

This keeps coming up good luck with killing it perhaps it shoudl be leaked to all the body building and health supplements website and forums to wake them up, if so many people are going to be denied this stuff then maybe that would work.
If all else fails send youre trusty congressman a sample of love scent pheromones and let them go have some secretary fun. Might make them forget about the bill.

[Goanna]

As a bodybuilder, I can tell you that we allready know about this ban, and we have for some time now. Unfortunatly though, most bodybuilders that use anabolic steroids, are not to concerned with prohormones, because they consider them useless. Those who do care, have allready contacted their representatives.

I can also say this. Even if they get banned here, you will be able to import them in raw form. I allready have a source for Bulk None, Rone, and Nol in pure powder form. US customs dogs are not trained to seek out androgens, it is very easy to bring them in, even if they are scheduled now (ie, real testosterone powder or similar).

Please do not ask me for the source either, as I dont intend to compete with bruce or try and steer people away from this site. I just have him as a backup.

[ladysadness]

there is a letter there is that the one for the sample letter to copy and sign it?

[xvs]

You can send a copy of my letter if you want, or the other one in the first message I posted.

But do send something to your representative!

[xvs]

Has everyone on this forum in the USA written to their congressman?

If not, do it NOW.

Otherwise you may find that by later in the year there won\'t be any pheromones available.

Note that this bill doesn\'t merely make androgens illegal as supplements. IT MAKES THEM ILLEGAL TO POSESS AT ALL.

This WILL make all pheromones illegal.

Do it. Write to your congressman now.

[mokes]

I don\'t think they\'ll be able to outlaw pheromones seeing as how they aren\'t dietary supliments... But this bill *is* incrediabbly stupid..

[CptKipling]

Like he says, do it now

[bundyburger]

Does that mean all those perfumes that have pheromones (directly or indriectly) would have to be banned? lol
It could become a matter of discresion. /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

[Goanna]

I would like to point something else out. Even if they get banned here in the US, all of the manufacturers are not located here. La croy chemical for example is South African. Others may be european.

You will be able to obtain pheromones even if this bill gets passed (Lets hope it doesnt though). Like I said before, customs looks for narcotics coming into the country, and even that can get through easily with the right methods. I highly doubt customs would seize a package of pheromones or perfumes.

All that said, everyone should still send the info to their congressman. I just wanted to post a different view to comfort anyone who is worried about how they will get pheromones.

[xvs]

Note that they aren\'t planning to outlaw supplements. They\'re planning to outlaw the actual chemicals.

That means pheromones WILL be outlawed if this bill passes.

[mokes]

xvs,
in the first article it says
\"…They obviously wrote this bill with the intention to make it as broad in scope as possible—to go beyond just the andro-type immediate precursors and to outlaw every steroid hormone precursor product being sold today as a nutritional supplement!\"

And since pheromones are not meant to be ingested (as it clearly states on some bottles,) I really don\'t think they\'ll be affected by this bill.

[xvs]

Here\'s the short answer.

Note that these will be classified as \"controlled subtances\". That means they\'re drugs which are illegal to posess. You can\'t use heroin in a perfume because it\'s not being sold to be taken internally. This bill would give all these substances similar status:

H.R. 5564.

On October 7, 2002, Rep. John Sweeney (R-NY) introduced H.R. 5564, legislation designed to classify immediate chemical precursors of an anabolic steroid as controlled substances under the Controlled Substances Act. Rep. Tom Osborne (R-NE) cosponsored the legislation. The bill was referred to the House Judiciary Committee, the House Workforce and Education Committee and the House Energy and Commerce Committee. On October 28, 2002, the bill was further referred to the House Subcommittee on Health for its consideration via the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

Here is the full text. Read it and weep:
Then go write that letter to your congressman!

HR 5564 IH
107th CONGRESS
2d Session

H. R. 5564
To amend the Controlled Substances Act with respect to the placing of certain substances on the schedules of controlled substances, and for other purposes.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
OCTOBER 7, 2002

Mr. SWEENEY (for himself and Mr. OSBORNE) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committees on the Judiciary and Education and the Workforce, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL
To amend the Controlled Substances Act with respect to the placing of certain substances on the schedules of controlled substances, and for other purposes.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SCHEDULING OF CERTAIN SUBSTANCES.
(a) DEFINITION- Section 102(23) of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802(23)) is amended--

(1) by striking `(A)\' and inserting `(B)(i)\';

(2) by striking `(B)\' and inserting `(ii);

(3) by striking `(C)\' and inserting `(iii); and

(4) by inserting after `means a substance--\' the following new subparagraph:

`(A) which the Attorney General has found to be, and by regulation designated as being, the immediate chemical precursor of an anabolic steroid that has been scheduled as a controlled substance (hereinafter in this subparagraph referred to as `scheduled anabolic steroid\') which either is a metabolite of a scheduled anabolic steroid or is transformed in the body directly into a scheduled anabolic steroid or the metabolite of a scheduled anabolic steroid; or\'.

(b) PLACEMENT ON SCHEDULE- Section 201(e) of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 811(e)) is amended--

(1) by inserting `or for the immediate precursor of a scheduled anabolic steroid, without regard to the requirements of section 102(41), including the requirement that the substance promote muscle growth\' after `section 202(b)\'; and

(2) by adding at the end the following: `However, once an immediate precursor described in section 102(23)(A) is placed in a schedule pursuant to this section, it becomes a controlled substance and the Attorney General may schedule an immediate precursor of that substance in accordance with this section.

SECTION 2. AT-RISK EDUCATION PROGRAMS FOR GRADE AND HIGH SCHOOL TEENAGERS.
(a) IN GENERAL- The Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy (hereinafter in this section referred to as the `Director\') is authorized to undertake education programs at the grade and high school levels to highlight the harmful effects of steroids and steroid precursor use by youths.

(b) TARGET REQUIREMENTS- The Director shall, to the maximum extent feasible, use amounts made available to carry out subsection (a) for existing State and local antidrug programs. Furthermore, funds made available for this purpose shall be used primarily on education programs that will directly communicate with teachers, principals, coaches, as well as grade and high school children at the school level on the harmful effects of steroids and steroid precursors.

(c) AUTHORIZATION- There is authorized to be appropriated for programs under section 2(a) $10,000,000 for fiscal year 2003, $15,000,000 for fiscal year 2004, and $17,500,000 for fiscal year 2005.

[a.k.a.]

I hate the way they bundled this legislation up with a bill that would provide funds for educating kids about the dangers of steroids. It’s an indirect bribe seeing as most legislators have to deal with budget crunches in their school districts.

In any case, not only did I write my rep, I got most of my family to do the same.

Let’s hope for the best.

[Watcher]

Well looks like more pork barreling at work again. Perhaps they should give more funds to specialised law enforcement agencies to focus on hard drugs.
Instead of hitting the life extension industry.

[xvs]

Has everyone written or called their congressman?

Do it now if you haven\'t!

If you have, add a message that says so, so we can keep this thread visible and get more people to write!

[belgareth]

I did

[phersurf]

Done.

[xvs]

Great! Who else?

Send emails to your friends too... get them to write or call.

Without action, this bill will pass and we\'ll be screwed!

[Watcher]

YOu could always get onto the body buidling forums and life extension mobs and tell them about it.

[Tom]

How about petition at Pherocon 2003 ?

[mokes]

Is there any update on this yet? Whenever I try to search google I either find letters sent to congressmen, or the exact same articles.
And usfa.biz has not been updated in quite awhile since it\'s still refered to as H.R. 207.

[CptKipling]

Bump


Any members of related forums, or forums that have an interest in prohormones etc, let them know aswell.

EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM IN THE US NEEDS TO WRITE TO THEIR CONGRESSMAN, DO IT NOW

[Elana]

Bumping for the cause /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

[moony]

i\'ll do it now. I got the name of who to email from www.house.gov. (\"http://www.house.gov.\")

[rjm]

bump

[Aethershot]

I\'m not sure if this is still necessary, sorry if it isn\'t, but... bump.

[xvs]

It is necessary!

Please, if you haven\'t sent a letter to BOTH your senator and congressman, DO IT NOW!

Otherwise we will have no pheromones in the USA soon...

[Bruce]

I finally got a response from my congressman. Here it is:
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Thanks for your message in opposition to H.R 207, legislation to add any anabolic steroid precursor to the list of federally controlled substances. I appreciate hearing from you.Â

This bill was referred to the Energy and Commerce Committee, the Education and Workforce Committee and the Judiciary Committee, but none of the committees have taken any action on it yet. Should this come to the House Floor for a vote, I will be sure to keep your opposition in mind.

In 1994, millions of Americans voiced their support for congressional passage of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA). This law lets consumers purchase vitamins and nutritional supplements without a prescription. I have long supported DSHEA, and will continue to do so in the future.

Again, thanks for writing. Please stay in touch.

Rep.Peter DeFazio
Fourth District, OREGON
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Bruce

[CptKipling]

Sounds promising!

Come on guys! Keep up the good work!

[xvs]

That\'s the best response I\'ve seen.

So far what I got back were one non-commital response and one lack of a response.

Keep calling and writing!

[Tantalus747]

I hate to sound pessimistic, but even if this bill doesn\'t pass, it\'s highly likely something like it eventually will.

Prohormones/prosteriods have gotten to the point where they are nearly as effective as illegal steriods. 1-testosterone is actually an anabolic steriod which is legal (for now). Many prohormones have the same side effects if misused as illegal steriods. (Which are fairly minor if you actually look into the research, not the hype.) Even if this particular bills fails, it\'s only a matter of time until some idiot (likely a teen -- it would get more attention) commits murder and blames \"prohormone rage.\"

When legistlation comes, if history is any measure, it will be too broad. The question is one of enforcement. This bill would make pheros technically illegal, however, it\'s likely that it would not be enforced (I doubt Bruce would want to chance it though).

The crackdown of GHB made possession of many articles of clothing a felony because they contain a GHB metabolite. So theoretically thousands of people could be hauled in under that law. Of course that\'s not happening.

I can only hope that\'s what would happen if/when this bill or one like it is signed into law.

And yes, I had written my congressmen even before seeing this.