for the guys who don't like strong perfumes

[Sexyredhead]

For those of you who don\'t like strong perfumes on your ladies, what do you prefer? I mean something you can\'t smell before she comes in the room, more like just when you get next to her.
And for those of you with ladies who wear -mones, what\'s your favorite combination?

[DrSmellThis]

I prefer my own perfumes on ladies. /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

Second is flower essential oils.

[Elana]

Sexyredhead- What fragrances do you wear?

[Sexyredhead]

Now I wear OP Juice, which has a fresh, clean smell. I used to wear Calyx, which was a light floral with some grapefruit thrown in, and before that Contradiction, by Calvin Klein. I tend to wear one for several months to a year, then get tired of it and look for something new.
A lot of times I don\'t wear any perfume though. Strong ones give me a headache. I like the smell of Beautiful, but only on the clothes worn the day before. My mom wears it, and it almost turns me cross-eyed if I\'m stuck in a small room with her. A friend from Paris sent me Angel as a gift, and I love the smell, but it\'s way too strong for me to wear, except when he\'s around, which isn\'t very often. I like to sniff the bottle though. lol
I often wear EO\'s in lotion, since I generally shower after the gym in the morning before going to school/work, and I put on lotion after my shower. I use lavender, light rose, light almond, hibiscus (a fave), apple, or a light honeydew when I mix it up.
I don\'t want to be smelled before I walk in the room. I like a guy to be able to smell me if he\'s standing next to me, but to really appreciate the scent, he has to bury his nose in my neck. Therefore if I do wear perfume, I usually spray it on my hair, my lower back, and my wrists, since my chest and behind my ears seem to create enough heat to make me smell it half the day, and that\'s too strong, IMO.

[Elana]

I am the opposite...I don\'t believe in being subtle./ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif I wear Angel perfume and couldn\'t have asked for a more custom made scent for me. Thanks again FTR for recommending it.

[Sexyredhead]

A friend of mine is like that. I always know sif he\'s stopped by my office because it smells like her perfume for a long time after she leaves.:)
I prefer to have an illusive scent, with the invitation for a man to come find where I put it on.:)

[Sexyredhead]

Are you one of those guys who makes his own scents for his ladies? A friend of mine does that, and his always smell good.

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Sexyredhead, you and I have the same taste. I love Calyx, wore it for a long time ... and am always on the look out for something soft and subtle. I love the va-voom scents but they wear me rather than the other way around.

[Elana]

Have you ever tried Flower by Kenzo? If not, smell it next time you are in Sephora. It\'s not me, but it smells beautiful.

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Thanks, I\'ll try it. Frenchie raves about Kenzo. Maybe that would be a nice one for Sexyredhead, too. Last night I was looking at Burt\'s Bees products - they have a baby scent in solid form that got good reviews - I bet that would be nice.

[Elana]

I have the baby scent in solid. I like to put it on when I get out of the shower. It has a soft, sweet smell.

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Hey - slightly off topic but maybe not - Downy finally came out with an unscented fabric softener. I\'ve been wanting that for ages. Now your clothes smell won\'t compete with your skin smell and you can put your own scent on a paper towel and throw it in with the clothes in the drier.

[Sexyredhead]

Kenzo does sound good. I\'ll look into it.
I\'m addicted to the Burt\'s Bees lip balm. Used to have a bad habit of chewing my lip when stressed out, and having something that tastes good on my lips that stays for hours makes licking my lips much more preferable.:) Very pepperminty. A guy I know has a shop in the next town that sells all kinds of Burt\'s. I\'m not big into baby-type scents, but maybe they have something else I might like. Thanks, ladies.:)

[Elana]

<I\'m addicted to the Burt\'s Bees lip balm. >

Me too /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

[Sexyredhead]

I didn\'t think the unscented got my clothes as soft. Or maybe I\'m just smoking crack. lol
I use an old wash cloth instead of a paper towel, but I find it takes more than I think it should. How much do you put on the paper towel?

[Elana]

<Now your clothes smell won\'t compete with your skin smell and you can put your own scent on a paper towel and throw it in with the clothes in the drier. >

I never knew this! How much perfume do you have to use to make the scent noticeable?

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Actually, I used an old wash cloth, too. Was thinking a paper towel would do as well. And I used ... are you ready ... Baby Powder scent from the craft store. About three dabs (invert the bottle on the cloth once = dab) did nicely. You know the section where the candlemaking equipment is, in craft stores? They have little bottles of all kinds of scents. The one I picked up just says \"Fragrance Oils Baby Powder,\" All Natural Botanicals, Pinellas Park, FL 33781.

[Elana]

Would it work with my perfume?

[Sexyredhead]

I use 10-15 drops EO from an eyedropper on a washrag. The scent is subtle, not quite like a dryer sheet, but it\'s there. That may be the equivalent of three dabs from a bottle. I\'m not sure.
When I first learned about it, I was told 3 drops would get it. All I noticed coming out the dryer doing that was a good-smelling wash cloth and a lot of unscented clothes. lol

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OH yeah. Couple of drops of Angel I\'m sure would work. YUM. /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

I washed my pillow shams and the sheets SDR and I were on -- put them in the drier - came back to get them, and the entire wash room smelled like pheromones. Woo-hoo! What a high.

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None of the males answered this question. Why is that?

[Lucky]

Doc,
Tell me about some of your scents. You make your own, that\'s wonderful.

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DrSmellThis answered. A truthful answer but one that wouldn\'t help Sexyredhead pick a perfume ...


Puchi\'s right, c\'mon guys. No favorites?

[Wolfe]

sorry, i\'m like Doc and make my own from EO\'s

[marv14yag]

Oh, I believe that I can help you with this....

The best types of perfumes that are liked by guys are the kind of stuff that you can get from Victoria Secrets and stuff...The body spray, and light smelling sexy, sweet smelling spays/mist.....Spray a little bit of that wherever, I dont\' know where women usually spray it...Behind wrist, neck, etc...

That is the best stuff, also, it costs much less than perfume...

Women are supposed to be light nice smelling, not alpha women, or a 90 year old women with such strong perfume you get a headache from it....

Nice, light, sweet smelling...

Bart

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I believe Sexyredhead was looking for actual names of colognes. Victoria\'s Secret makes several different scents and some of them are quite overpowering. Rapture, for example, is pukacious ... /ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif

[marv14yag]

I am sorry FullTiltRedhead, I do not know if the same applies for Victoria Secrets ( I remember Vicotoria Secret\'s because of the adds on t.v., got to love them chics...)

I believe what I was talking about was mostly bath and body works.

Now, I do know that there is a cologne in Victoria Secrets called Very Sexy, for Him, I believe there should be the same, for Her, I have been told of it\'s very nice smell ( not powerful like cologne) by someone else, perhaps you should try it...If you are at the Victoria Secrets becasue you were LURRED in by their WONDER HOT adds....

Bart

(Semi Annual bra sale just 14.99...lol)

[Sexyredhead]

You know, I think you and I must definitely have the same nose for perfume, FTR. I don\'t like any of the scents from VS--except one apple one they don\'t make anymore. Mostly they smell like alcohol or are just too strong. And the lotions have excessively sweet overtones--don\'t like them. B&BW on the other hand, does have some nice ones. They sometimes go on after a shower too. Sweet Pea smells nice. Got that from friend Clay for Christmas. Also the Juniper Berry/Breeze, whatever it\'s called, smells good.

I was just wondering mostly what kind of scents the guys were preferring on their ladies, if they like more subtle fragrances. And for those who do make -mone potions for their ladies, I\'m wondering what -mones they prefer to put in the mix?

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Bassman would be good on this. and so would Alchemist, who I haven\'t seen around in a long time.

[upsidedown]

You know, as a man, I don\'t like any of the scents in Vicotria\'s Secret either. In fact, I was in there just a few days ago trying out Wolfe\'s strategy of hanging out in there seeing if the pheromones get attention from the women in there. I was so self-conscious being in there by myself that I didn\'t last 5 minutes. But, when I WAS in there, I spent most of my time smelling various different body scents and perfumes and such. I figured it was a lot safer to be seen putting my nose in the perfumes than to go around burying my face in the lingerie and sniffing it! /ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif

Anyway, I found the men\'s Very Sexy to be absolutely HORRID! I tried wearing it once from a small sample bottle. I couldn\'t stand it! Just way too too much..and awful smelling.. And, I\'m the same way with women\'s scents. I don\'t particularly like to be blown over with the scent, but prefer it to be more subdued.

But, as far as particular scents, I can\'t help you either or I would. I\'ve been without a S.O. female friend for quite a while now, and am not in any position to ask about a specific scent I like, and so I have no firsthand information I can provide. I\'m sure that\'s why you\'re not getting many responses from guys as well. I\'m sure a lot of guys probably just simply don\'t know any of the names of the scents to be able to tell you.

[Wolfe]

lmao..coward /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif actually i found a new mall to go to thats even better than the one i used before..one b4 only had a VS
the one i meet Bel at is futher away but has a VS and a Fredricks of Hollywoods /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
BONAZA

[DrSmellThis]

Yes. If she wants to go for it, I base it on her various \"natural body smells.\" If I have time, I might pick out 20 distinct smells from someone\'s body, then match oils to them. I\'ve had to train my nose. Then she gets something tailored to various aspects of her body chemistry. I\'ve had only enthusiastic, positive feedback so far. It\'s a fairly intimate process we both have to be ready for... /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

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Not to pry into your trade secrets but I\'m intrigued in a big way. What kinds of oils would you use to match a woman\'s own natural smells? would you mind giving an example or two. I mean, I have a feeling you\'re not talking just flower essences.

[DrSmellThis]

Right now I have a fresh one, with ylang notes (inspired by my mother), a classic floral, with rose notes (inspired by EW), and a lemony amber oriental (inspired by a bottle of expensive sherry I couldn\'t stop smelling). They are laced with pheromones and natural musks. They are made with some of the most expensive, pure essential oils available. I use small amounts of synthetic substances only for strategic purposes, when there is a specific reason to do so (e.g, pheromones). But even the fixatives are natural, which is not the case for commercial perfumes. Even the best ones have lots of synthetics these days. Some ingredients are very hard to find. I\'m pretty attached to them. They are like friends. Ah yes, the mental illnesses of perfumers.

There are probably 50-100 ingredients in each one. I started off not being able to blend two oils without them clashing, and used to think it was impossible to mix too many oils without clashes happening. But that is not the case at all, if everything is in proportion.

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Fibronacci?

[DrSmellThis]

My best advice for sexyredhead is to email Chris from the Perfume House about what you are looking for, in as much detail as you can muster. I posted the link once, and it can be found through a search. I don\'t want everyone to do it. He is one of the world\'s foremost experts on perfumes, (he is what they call a \"nose\") and sells more classic, rare perfumes than any shop in the world. That is where I buy perfume.

[DrSmellThis]

I wish I had it that scientific. Just intimate knowledge of the oils.

[DrSmellThis]

Well, there was one woman whose prominent smell was benzoin. There was another who smelled primarily of Indian spices. Luckily I cook Indian food. Sometimes they end up smelling like me and I have to start over. /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif You have to have an open mind going in.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

This is amazing ... so, now, what are you smelling? Pits, ear wax, cooter? And when you make the perfume, you\'re making it to smell as much like them as possible or to balance their smell, or what? A custom made perfume to me would be like the holy grail. I\'m constantly searching for just the right thing and it\'s always just slightly beyond my grasp. It\'s like the perfect color lipstick. I\'ll still be looking the day I die, and thinking, um, almost, it *just* misses, I can\'t quite put my finger on it. /ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif

[DrSmellThis]

The answer to all that is yes.

Holy Grail would be a good name for my 1:1 perfumery. /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

[Sexyredhead]

That is really fascinating. Any common threads you find among your ladies?
My nose isn\'t nearly that good. I can only tell you what I like and don\'t like, unfortunately. I\'ll email Chris, if you think it will help. And not to be stupid, but would you send me a private post and give me a pointer or two on the kind of things to tell him? I\'d really appreciate it.

[DrSmellThis]

I use some cumin, EW, musk, -nol, and ambergris, for every woman, but in different ratios depending on her smell.

[oscar]

Doc,

Where do you get your ambergris?

Oscar /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

[Wolfe]

try this one
http://madini.com/madini_site/products/complete_listing.htm (\"http://madini.com/madini_site/products/complete_listing.htm\")

[oscar]

Wolfe,

Thanks. I\'ve already got Madini\'s Ambargris. I really like it. In fact I think I may have given you that link a while back.
I was just wondering about different sources.

Oscar /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

[Wolfe]

lol, i can\'t say..have gotten links from you and DrS so not sure whos is whos /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif so just thoughtt i\'d pass it along even if you don\'t use someone else might..much of what you and i ( and DrS\'s info) was done on PM\'s
PS: so DrS if thats not your link post it here for me to see to as well as oscar would ya?? /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
actually i got like 6 differant links from the 2 of you on EO\'s and perfume making

[Wolfe]

hey oscar do you have a Bath and Body works near you?..man they have some good EO\'s and broad selection too.

[bivonic]

natural or synthetic EO\'s, if natural how much in terms of cost?

[bivonic]

http://www.bathandbodyworks.com/new/aroma/oils.jsp (\"http://www.bathandbodyworks.com/new/aroma/oils.jsp\")

This is what they got, not sure on the costs...(hehe answered my own post).

Bergamot, Citrus aurantium bergamia
Bergamot oil, commonly harvested in the Italian countryside, is best known for its uplifting properties. Blends well with Neroli, Jasmine, Lavender and Coriander essential oils.

Cedarwood, Juniperus virginiana
One of the oldest known essential oils, Virginian Cedarwood is esteemed for its soothing and calming properties. Blends well with Bergamot, Geranium, Sandalwood and Patchouli essential oils.

Chamomile, Anthemis nobilis
Wonderfully soothing Chamomile essential oil from France calms the soul and promotes relaxation. Blends well with Rose, Geranium, Lavender and Neroli essential oils.

Cinnamon Bark In Clove Oil, Cinnamomum cassia
With its warm, spicy scent, Madagascar Cinnamon essential oil is well known for its ability to promote vitality and help increase energy. Blends well with Ginger, Lavender, Geranium and Sweet Bay essential oils.

Clary Sage, Salvia sclarea
Intoxicating Clary Sage essential oil is renowned for its ability to calm and relax the mind. Mixes well with Lavender, Sandalwood, Spearmint, Cedarwood and Tea Tree essential oils.

Coriander, Coriandrum sativum
Russian-harvested Coriander essential oil clears the mind and energizes the body. Mixes well with Rosemary, Eucalyptus, Clover, Bergamot and Geranium essential oils.

Eucalyptus, Eucalyptus globulus
Distilled in Spain and Brazil, Eucalyptus essential oil is widely used for its refreshing and stimulating properties. Mixes well with lavender, Sandalwood, Rosemary, Spearmint and Tea Tree essential oils.

Geranium, Geranium maculatum
Natural essence of Geranium, commonly from the Reunion Islands, is renowned for its balancing and refreshing qualities. Mixes well with Lavender, Rosemary, Eucalyptus and Rose essential oils.

Ginger, Zingiber officinale
Long revered in its native Asia, Ginger essential oil is best loved for its stimulating and fortifying properties. Mixes well with Grapefruit, Geranium, Spearmint, Patchouli and Lavender, essential oils.

Grapefruit, Citrus grandis
Fresh-picked, sparkling Florida Grapefruit essence refreshes the senses and lifts the spirit. Mixes well with Orange, Tangerine, Neroli and Peppermint essential oils.

Jasmine, Jasminum officinale
The luscious fragrance of Indian Jasmine essential oil is often used to stimulate and intoxicate the senses, Mixes well with Rose, Geranium, Vanilla, Cinnamon, Chamomile, Ylang-Ylang essential oils.

Lavender, Lavandula angustifolia
Natural Lavender essential oil, harvested in the lush French countryside, promotes a sense of calm and relaxation. Mixes well with Rose, Geranium, Patchouli and Rosemary essential oils.

Neroli, Citrus aurantium
Beautifully fragrant Tunisian Neroli essential oil soothes and calms the senses. Mixes well with Orange, Ginger, Tangerine, Lavender, Rose, Jasmine and Bergamot essential oils.


Orange, Citrus aurantium amara
Fresh from Tunisia, Orange essence helps refresh the mind and raise the spirits. Mixes well with Grapefruit, Ginger, Tangerine and Lavender essential oils.

Patchouli, Pogostemon cablin
Native to Asia, calming Patchouli oil is often used as a relaxant for the mind. Mixes well with Rose, Geranium, Cedarwood, Tea Tree, Vanilla and Bergamot essential oils.

Peppermint, Menta piperita
Fresh-picked peppermint from America\'s Heartland stimulates, invigorates and refreshes the senses. Mixes well with Rosemary, Eucalyptus, Lavender and Spearmint.

Rose, Rosa centifolia
Known best for its sensuous fragrance, Bulgarian Rose essence also helps purify the senses and creates a romantic mood. Mixes well with Geranium, Patchouli, Chamomile, Ylang-Ylang and Vanilla essential oils.

Rosemary, Rosmarinus officinalis
Fresh from the fields of Tunisia, Rosemary essential oil calms apprehension while stimulating the spirit. Mixes well with Spearmint. Peppermint, Geranium, Lavender, Tea Tree and Eucalyptus essential oils.

Sandalwood, Santalum album
Dark, exotic and seductive, Indian Sandalwood is known for its ability to relax and soothe the mind. Mixes well with Patchouli, Cedarwood, Rose, Cinnamon and Sweet Bay essential oils.

Spearmint, Mentha viridis
Fresh from the American Midwest, aromatic, Spearmint is know for its invigorating and refreshing qualities. Mixes well with Eucalyptus, Rosemary. Geranium, Tea Tree and Lavender essential oils.

Sweet Bay, Laurus nobilis
Fresh from the lush Mediterranean, Sweet Bay essential oil helps restore a sense of balance to a busy mind. Mixes well with Ginger, Cinnamon, Coriander, Patchouli and Cedarwood essential oils.

Tangerine, Citrus tangerina
The essential oil pressed from freshly picked Florida Tangerines is widely valued for its ability to soothe and refresh both mind and body. Mixes well with Orange, Neroli, Vanilla, Cinnamon and Bergamot essential oils.

Tea Tree, Melaleuca alternifolia
Native to Australia, naturally cleansing Tea Tree oil has a warm, spicy odor that helps calm the senses. Mixes well with Eucalyptus, Rosemary, Geranium, Lavender and Spearmint essential oils.

Vanilla, Vanilla planifolia
Vanilla essence, cultivated in Mexico and Central America, has a warm, rich aroma, well known to help calm the senses and relieve stress. Mixes well with Patchouli, Cedarwood, Rose, Geranium, Cinnamon and Sweet Bay essential oils.

Ylang-Ylang, Cananga odoratum
Grown on the palm-swept beaches of Comoros Island, Ylang-Ylang seduces the senses and readies you for romance.

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They also make some blends - I particularly like the grapefruit/peppermint one for burning in a fragrance burner for the house. Very uplifting.

[Wolfe]

naturals and very very expensive some of them( 10-12 times Bruces) /ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif
all are expensive..3-4 times what Bruce gets on a EO(and thats the cheap ones)

[DrSmellThis]

pm me O

[bivonic]

Just picked up Sandalwood at Bath & Body Works, 1 Fluid Oz. for $18, came with a free travel size aromatherapy product of your choice - I took a 2 Fl. Oz Cedarwood Sage - nourishing body lotion. Seemed like a decent deal, picked them up in a store in NYC, so it could be cheaper elsewhere, not sure if you\'d get the freebie lotion with it or not.

So now this is an oil, I was told previously it wouldn\'t mix well with the chem set mixes as they are all ethanol based. What do you do with it? Apply it like a cologne (I assume this is concentrated so only a drop or so spread around), or mix it with oil based products such as PI, or mix with something else? Maybe I could put a drop of the Sandalwood into a dollop of the body lotion (either the free trial on an unscented lotion) & mix in my drops from the chem set per application & then apply to my lower arms or even my neck, comments?

Thanks!

[BassMan]

If indeed it\'s true Sandalwood EO, it will mix fine with alcohol media. I do it all the time.

[BassMan]

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Their oils are dilute enough that you can use them straight on your skin. My thought would be, if you wanted to mix it, put it in the unscented lotion rather than the Cedarwood Sage blend. Try a little of the oil on the inside of your arm and do a patch test, make sure it doesn\'t irritate your skin over a 24 hour period, and see how the scent holds up. That should give you a better idea of what to do with it.

[bivonic]

Ingredients: Carthamus Tinctorius (Hybrid Safflower) Seed Oil, Santalum Album (Sandalwood) Oil, Tocopherol (Vitmain E)

Sounds like good stuff to me!

[BassMan]

Dunno. I doubt the Safflower seed oil will mix with EtOH.