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bundyburger
12-25-2002, 04:13 AM
Thanks for the tips guys from my last post. I’ll keep them in mind.

As mentioned by a couple of guys, I too had trouble figuring out the PI dropper. I tended to go on the safe side with the PI and put it near my waist in case it was too much and then a \"wet finger\"s worth of PI on the back of my neck and what was left near my adams apple.
With the SoE I used 3 inches on each wrist, a couple inches behind each ear and a small amount around the areas of the PI to cover it better. The scent is nowhere near as strong as the Lure one. Which I reckon would cover PI really well ;-) Might get some better droppers and syringes and things to be more controlled. May try the Lure with PI one day too.

The night??

Went well.

For starters:
Actually got a definite DIHL down the street (Santa was distributing lollies to the kids by fire truck). By co-incedence, pulled up beside her in car park, away from the main crowd. Good isolation. Noticed DIHL when I got back from ATM. Was funny, wasn\'t expecting it, but wasn\'t too excited about it either.

Went straight to a crowded pub/hotel:
While out the front for fresh air half hour later, or maybe an hour dunno, a women went outside for a phone call. She had to pass me directly a couple of times while chasing the mobile call (as you get). Nothing happened for a while (unless I didn\'t notice one) but later in the night caught her in DIHL look twice my way. Once for a good five seconds before she woke up to me looking that way!.. She seemed pissed off that I caught her too! LOL

Had some good chats and “merry christmas mate!”s etc.

One girl I met through mutual friends:
I find that keeping the eye contact strong, but without over doing it helps a lot. Did this while talking to this girl. She seemed focused on me even though talking/catching up mainly with my friend. Could be because of the “new face” thing more than pheros. Xmas eve tends to be a “sardine can” night at this establishment. Later in the night I had to find my way to somewhere. Can’t remember. Anyway, as I pushed past her group she did the playful “bum to hip” thing to knock me off balance, and gave me a big smile. /ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif That was a good sign. But then got a quick DIHL a some minutes later when I looked back. Interesting. This girl has a boyfriend. DOH! …But all’s good. She is actually moving to the area soon with her job. Maybe without BF. So we’ll see what fate holds there. …hmmm… speaking of fate, I met maybe 5 new girls last night, Carly, Carla, Carly, Cara were four of them… How weird is that?? Hehehe


Next Item:
Came across a girl I’ve know for a couple of years but haven’t had much to do with her, tends to snob me(Different circle of people). She walks past. We say hello as this happened. Keeps on walking a few steps and then does a sudden turn around and backsteps to me. Friendlier then she has ever been to me. We talk for quite a while. Plenty of hair flipping and eye contact and I think dilated pupils ( only thought of it later). Here’s the clincher. She is upset later in the night (bitchy girlfriends.lol). I notice her as I walk out of the mens room, she is on her way to the ladies (to compose herself I guess) and I was about to continue on my way when she decides I’m someone she can talk about things with. This is a common reaction I get with Lure also and I think a –nol type of thing. Maybe the –nol in SoE. (Or maybe just me /ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif )
She blurts out stuff to me as if we’ve been good friends all our life. Towards the end of this she seems to want to get closer to me. Puts her forehead against mine, wants to hang out with me, etc. (then doesn’t :S … I think she saw someone she knew coming and changed). Not the end of it though. I find her again a little upset at the bar, pep talk her a bit, tell her to join us if she likes. A while later standing there talking to some old mates when she comes up and strokes my chin with her finger and walks on. Looking back at me.

NOW! This is where you guys are going to kick my butt -

- I am an idiot-
I kept talking to these guys. Wasn’t till later on I realised “hmmm… you [bad word]” ROTFL
It was a full on hint and I didn’t “Click” to it. Don\'t know why. Maybe the alcohol. DOH!
Later on, went to different pub/club after this. She was going too. A few minutes behind. They were closing that particular bar as I turned up. I think this screwed up the meeting place. Never saw her again that night. But, not the end of that one I don’t think either.

Conclusion:
Pheros or not the pheros?

Don’t know. Like most, I don’t want to jump to conclusions. I’ll see how things go over the next while around people during shopping and stuff as well. And Krtel - May try your KR#1 too.

Good Story?? /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

There were other small things too, but I’m tired it’s the end of Xmas day here and I have had like, 2 hours sleep after last night’s big night. I’m off to bed.


To end on an interesting note:
Went for a top up of SoE a few hours into the night. A few swipes. Gave them a good sniff to make sure it wasn’t over done. A few minutes later I was like a total screw ball. Kept making up stupid not-as-funny comments and saying things all mucked up back to front and kind of stuttered for like five or ten minutes after this and had a slight headache type feeling.

Mmmm… I have heard or read somewhere that alcohol can have this same effect ??
Heh heh heh. Was a good night for many reasons!

…but seriously this affect was gone after a small amount of time. And I certainly wasn’t any more sober. ( didn’t get too drunk to scare away my “test subjects” BTW)

Merry christmas to all too!

dpguy
12-25-2002, 09:22 AM
Well I am definitely glad to hear of some hits from PI/m and SOE since those are the only 2 products I own. I wore those last night as well. I\'m not sure if I had the same luck though. I wore 2 drops of PI/m behind my ears and SOE gel (about 1/2 of a packet) on my throat.

First of all, I definitely agree that too much SOE (the gel for me) makes you act kinda stupid. I put on a pretty good amount last night, and could smell it quite a bit. I\'m not sure if other people noticed the \"too much cologne\" smell, but I think I had it. Anyway, I get into my friend\'s car to go out, and I feel definitely different (hadn\'t drank yet) and was making stupid jokes and just felt stupid. I\'m just curious to know if you can OD on SOE (as far as affecting other people)?

It\'s hard for me to say if I got any hits last night. I saw this one girl who I hadn\'t seen in forever and she was very eager to talk to me. However, after 5 minutes of yelling over the music, I ran out of things to say so I walked away and said I\'d be right back. I think she may have gotten pissed because when I ran into her later, she had no desire to engage in conversation. Maybe I have to work on my game. I thought she was cute, too. Oh well.

And Finally, my ex decided to be at the same place as me last night. We just broke up a couple of weeks ago. Well, I started out acting alright....until I saw her talking to someone. Then I started acting jealous. So stupid! I just couldn\'t help myself. She was complimenting the way I looked and stuff earlier, but once I saw that I just went crazy. Any advice?

Sorry for the long post,
dpguy

**DONOTDELETE**
12-25-2002, 10:35 AM
Shes probably just a cocktease hook up with someone else and forget about her or you\'ll be drawn into her web of jealousy.

Watcher
12-25-2002, 01:18 PM
Well sounds like yorue an aussie bundy and we all know how these aussie girls react to pheros, very well to SOE as normal, im from queensland myself and its a good story and very detailed, yeah pubs are the best place to really use this stuff, gotta watch out for smokers though, try applying slightly more in these pheros in such places to counter those effects.

bundyburger
12-25-2002, 03:18 PM
Actually I\'ve noticed this lately. Smokers are beginning to head outside for a drag here where I am. It\'s good. Tends to be the older generations that are staying inside, but younger uns heading out. So depending on the type of night and demographic mix it\'s pretty phero safe. If they (pheros) do indeed get affected by it.
I think the SoE might be pretty safe to carry around for top ups (is it?). Reasonable size too. So I\'ll keep the smoker thing in mind.

SoE might be my main weapon for starters here. Gets the trust thing happening too it seems. I think Lure might be better for that though?? Way too early to tell. Sounds like a good project. /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif Then hit them with the -none later.

...And yeah, Vic Aussie. /ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

CptKipling
12-25-2002, 04:52 PM
SOE is fine for top ups, you might even find some very interesting reactions! Just be carefull of scent OD

bundyburger
12-25-2002, 05:33 PM
Dpguy,

I don\'t think putting that much SoE that high would be any different than distributing some on your wrists as well. You have to remember that, when you are drinking, your wrists spend a lot of time at around chest height. And they wave around a lot more then your head, putting those mones in the air better. /ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
If it turns out a -nol OD makes some people screwy like you and me then maybe this is a better option.

...Or maybe it\'s the fragrances that do it?? I just remembered I got the same way in the car too. A week ago when we went to see the new Bond movie. I went stupid and said really dumb trivial things and stupid lines that weren\'t even funny. I was wearing Lure. And it was really strong in the car.

The \"ex\" thing is going to screw you up a bit anyway. Especially that soon after a break up. There\'s a pretty powerful emotional link there remember.

It\'s hard to get over a breakup. The only slightly surer cure is time. Other things like meeting other people help that period of time be shorter.
Just go into cruise mode for a while dude. It\'s harder to pick up. You may as well start building new bridges while you are getting over it. Start meeting new candidates for later on. /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif If it turns out you can handle more with one of them straight away then all the better. Being jealous may just end up with you both not being friends. And I\'m sure you will agree that that will be even worse than the break-up. (being there, doing that /ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif. Except jealousy wasn\'t the cause)

Advice?? Not much. I don\'t tend to get jealous of other guys anymore. If the girl is looking to pick-up that soon after a break up then it\'s a problem with her. Don\'t put as much value on what you think you see. I think until you see hard evidence you have to assume she is just talking to them anyway. Even if she instigated the break-up it doesn\'t mean she is happy about it turning out that way. Remember, she is coming out of a break-up too and is probably socialising to get the ego and confidence back up again or even trying to keep her mind off things.
\"Dick teasing\" is part of that too sometimes. Feel more sorry for the poor guy who thinks he\'s \"in\". hehehe.

With that other girl. I\'m no expert when it comes to picking up, but when you get a situation where you haven\'t seen each other in a while and want to catch up don\'t try the \"yell over the crowd\" thing. Ask her if she wants to go to a quieter area, or if the option is there, outside, because \"I want to find out what you\'ve been up to girl!\" or something. If she was that excited about seeing you she will agree. In my experience trying to talk to someone over the crowd/music often ends with you both running out of things to say. It makes you concentrate too much on figuring out the words. Not exactly conductive to a rolling conversation.
It\'s like watching TV when the reception is really really bad. Your brain is concentrating so much on putting in the missing pieces that you can only watch TV for a little while before you turn to mush. You HAVE to hear everything she says and remember it. It will help the conversation later on.

When you do run out of things to say with someone just end it. But say something like \"It\'s great to have caught up with you! I\'ve always liked you. You\'re fun to talk to!\" It gives her the message that you like her without being too full on.
You may meet her again later on and the bond will be better. Even Bruce has said somewhere on this sight about \"People liking people who like them\" . And I\'ve found that it works at other intensities of \"liking\" as well.

With a friend like this, don\'t TRY to pick her up. Try to be her friend. It might not do anything that night . She might not compute everything until she is lying in bed later that night thinking about the events of the past few hours. Maybe then she will think \"hmmmm... You know, John Smith was interesting tonight. He\'s more interesting than I first thought.\" And see what happens.

And maybe the pheros will help with that. :-D

....hmmm. Another long post. :-S

Watcher
12-25-2002, 10:51 PM
Could brance out into alter ego, its strong enough and more effective for the purposes mentioned in this thread.

Watcher
12-25-2002, 10:54 PM
Well competition is at the other end of the country then. Lol sounds like youve got some good advice there bundyburger, the smoking ban at some venues is benefical for us.