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SonnyBlack
10-19-2002, 02:25 PM
I had a very particular question thats been flooding my mind since I tried a None based product this week. Anyways this week I finally received my NPA for men and this was the first time that I had ever tried a none based product. I noticed while wearing it that it made me very sexually aggresive and very very confident ina good way. I was wondering if the pheromoes actually work to raise the wearers testosterone levels???Do they rise up and get spiked up??And if so...will this cause any problem through the testosterone to estrogen conversion that is usually seen in people that shoot steroids????will it convert to estrogen and cause problems???

druid
10-19-2002, 02:51 PM
not too sure but I don\'t think so. After someone juices up, from their body\'s prespective all of a sudden their test levels are high as hell so the body compensates by converting some to estrogen. If mones cause elevated test levels then your body ups its own test levels, since your body is responsible I think it would know how much to elevate them w/o the conversion. I am not sure if NONE will raise your test levels (I think the confidence is a mental thing -- it makes you think your an alpha), I would guess that couplins would raise your levels of test because then you would think that you are around some fertile poon. Just a guess though.

MadMaxx
10-19-2002, 11:00 PM
Sonny, read the recent thread on conversions. Most of your questions are answered there by Kohl. I believe he said only copulins jack up our T, and not -none or -nol.

**DONOTDELETE**
10-20-2002, 01:50 AM
SonnyBlack,
NO IT WONT!

Simply because Bodybuilders only got this Problems with some Steroids in HEAVY DOSE !
Also you need the genetic for that, and last but not least:
Dont dring beer if you dont want to have this effect, beer can convert to estro..

druid
10-20-2002, 09:26 AM
beer can convert to estrogen??? WTF??? The calories you get from beer are more like the calories you get from simple sugars -- empty. They can cause you to get thick around the middle -- hence the term \"BEER BELLY\". I have read that they can lower test levels, but as far as I know it WON\'T convert to estrogen.

druid
10-20-2002, 09:32 AM
if you want to raise your test levels, the best way IMO is 1) Workout with weights go brief and heavy. 2) Get plenty of sleep 3) Diet -- maniplate your macronutrients. I suggest doing this by a cycling ketogenic diet (The is a Diet called \"The Metobolic Diet\" that is great). Esstenially what it is Mon-Fri -- LOW CARB (practically atkins diet) then on the weekends HIGH CARB (like the food guide pyramid). CARB DEPLETE CARB UP repeat until your one big meat head /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif . This maximizes test, GH, and insulin. Minimizes stress hormones such as corstiol and adrendline.

**DONOTDELETE**
10-20-2002, 10:01 AM
@druid,
yes thats true, but in fact, gh and its antagonist will be maximised.

Östradiol-17ß can be found in Beer, but, youre right its much to less.
Alkoholics got very high Estrogen Levels but only because the high damage of the Liver, and so Testo converts to Estro....

SonnyBlack
10-20-2002, 12:43 PM
i believe that the hops in beer contain phytoestrogens...so inn a sense I believe beer does elevate estrogen levels...

druid
10-20-2002, 01:59 PM
well to tell you truth If there is some hormone stuff in there it can\'t be very much. I mean you can\'t just walk into a store and buy hormones over the counter. Bottom line if you want to max test levels (and care somewhat about your heatlh) JUST DON\'T DRINK BEER. That is what I do /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif.

druid
10-20-2002, 02:03 PM
Hey that last post made me a Full Member!! /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

franki
10-20-2002, 02:06 PM
Well, then you don´t need those enlargement exercises anymore ..

**DONOTDELETE**
10-20-2002, 03:00 PM
roflmao

SonnyBlack
10-20-2002, 03:38 PM
i looked through that whole post and found nothing on whether or not the none causes test levels to spike and consequently causes estrogen levels to spike as well....J KOHL...ure feedback on this would be tremendously appreciated....

druid
10-20-2002, 03:55 PM
he posted it in another thread. It was started after this thread by watcher.

I may be a Full member but I am still not a porn star anymore, so I will keep doin them /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif