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**DONOTDELETE**
09-03-2002, 04:43 AM
Ive just recently bought NPA and SOE wipes, and i have SOE roll on coming in a couple of days.
The SOE wipes seem to be working as everybody is really friendly, but when i add a couple of dabs of NPA under the SOE, nothing really happens!!


Is it neccessary that people can smell the scent?? as at the moment nobody at all can smell it

Will the roll on be more powerfully scented??

Do i have to actually mix the NPA with the SOE in a bottle, to get the benefits??

Somebody help please, as im really confused /ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
09-03-2002, 07:19 AM
Anybody??

BassMan
09-03-2002, 07:21 AM
Nothing happens as in, people aren\'t exceptionally friendly any more, or as in, there is no change from without the NPA?

**DONOTDELETE**
09-03-2002, 08:06 AM
i mean, there is no difference when NPA is added!!

CptKipling
09-03-2002, 08:33 AM
How many dabs of NPA exactly, covered with how much SOE (in inches or fractions of a pack).

**DONOTDELETE**
09-03-2002, 10:10 AM
2 dabs of npa, and half a soe pack

a.k.a.
09-03-2002, 06:24 PM
I’ve only tried this combo once. But I didn’t get good results either.

Watcher
09-03-2002, 07:16 PM
You dont have to actually mix the products together in a bottle. Just apply the NPA very lightly say on the back of youre neck or if you arent getting any responses just try the SOE by itself and then the NPA by itself. Any results from just plain NPA?

**DONOTDELETE**
09-04-2002, 05:11 AM
well i think NPA really stinks, so i havent actually tried it by itself!!
If i do mix half a packet of SOE with NPA, how many dabs do i need to use?

Has anybody else used a SOE AND NPA combo???

Do people need to smell the scent, i really need to know, as nobody can smell them, so do i need to put more on???

MadMaxx
09-04-2002, 05:55 AM
They work fine together for me. I put APC on the bottom of my forearms and SOE on the top of my arms and on my neck.

CptKipling
09-04-2002, 07:16 AM
Try more NPA under the SOE. 3 then 4 dabs, etc., untill you start to get hits, or some negative reaction, then you know to give up.

BassMan
09-04-2002, 08:17 AM
<blockquote><font class=\"small\">In reply to:</font><hr>

Do people need to smell the scent, i really need to know, as nobody can smell them, so do i need to put more on???

<hr></blockquote>To try to answer your question, six months or so ago, the theory \'round here seemed to be that the pheros didn\'t need to be consciously detected to be effective. Since then, it\'s gotton a bit more complicated.

Current thinking (at least mine /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif ) is that the attraction factor of pheros is a pretty complex package that contains:
* the effect of the pheros on the VNO - mostly unconscious
* the effect of the pheros on the olfactory sensors (the smell of the pheros) and the associations they recall per the target\'s previous conditioning - probably both conscious and unconscious
* both perceived and unconscious effects of the cover scent/cologne, not to mention
* a powerful lust for the scent of baby powder.

Which is to say - no, your target doesn\'t _need_ to be able to smell the pheros, but if she does, it will modify the response.

**DONOTDELETE**
09-04-2002, 10:53 AM
when u say dabs, is that turning over the bottle on your finger?? if so, wouldnt 3 - 4 dabs be really strong????????

**DONOTDELETE**
09-04-2002, 10:58 AM
Also u say that the scent isnt what attracts the ladies, does that mean the NPA can be covered with tons of aftershave, and wont be affect the mones??

Oh this pheromones stuff is complicated

BassMan
09-04-2002, 11:24 AM
Whether or not covering the mones with \"tons of aftershave\" will affect the mones, it will affect the moans.

(You\'ll reek.)

**DONOTDELETE**
09-04-2002, 11:40 AM
Hmmmm good point /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

CptKipling
09-04-2002, 01:47 PM
Just push the envelope untill you hit -none OD.

Cover scent does not affect the pheros themselves, all you are doing is covering the bad smells. Could affect smell associations though, have not noticed it myself.