Asian Phero Users --- Field Test

[FerroMone]

I am conducting a field test here in RP, using two pheros.
Alpha Androstenol and Androsterone. My mix is a homebrew
one coz i got my pheros from Sigma-Aldrich PH. They are in
powdered form.

One thing I notice though, Alpha Androstenol is whitish in color and comes in very fine powder. When you combine it
with %70 ethyl alcohol and %30 water it has a hard a time
dissolving in the solution but within 24 hrs. it is completely dissolved.

For Androsterone, it appears as a yellowish powder with larger grains as compared to Androstenol powder. The androsterone would dissolve readily when mixed with %70 Ethyl Alcohol and %30 Water. It smells like Menthol or Camphor.

As for the field test, I still don\'t have a conclusive result on using Pheros. I am testing this on our school since, there are many beautiful teens here. I believe I got a single hit with Androsterone alone with a high school girl and a 35yo. woman. Any asian phero users here ?? pls. reply

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I am an american born asian, and I have used pheremones a little bit. So far, I\'ve mostly been experimenting with Scent of Eros (Scented). I am a little dissapointed since I want to attract women, but it seems like guys are more talkative and stand closer to me when I wear it. It\'s really annoying, so I haven\'t been wearing my SOE that much.

I wore a lot while going to a night club, and the male bouncer wouldn\'t shut up. He was so chatty. Another time I wore it to play pool with my friends. One of them (a guy) kept standing really close to me. I kept having to move away since it was so uncomfortable.

Since the -nol seems to be working on the guys, I am thinking about buying something that has a lot of -none. Maybe Primal Instict scented or NPA. Any suggestions?

I have an odd/cool experience with my own natural pheremones, but I\'ll post that when I have more time.

[Lee]

I too am an American born asian male. I also have noticed an increased attention from other males and I do find it really annoying. I get more attention from other guys and wish that I had more attention from the females.

I\'m guessing the pheros work but it\'s easier for a male to be upfront with showing respect than it is for a female to show that she \"wants\" you. It\'s how our society works. I\'ve had my number of smiles from females but the males just don\'t seem to shut up. It\'s like you become their best friend all of the sudden without doing anything.

[Lee]

Wow, I never noticed the \"Full Member\" status.

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What have you been using? All I\'ve tested was SOE. I\'m am going to test The Edge some time and see if I get different results from -none (since SOE [all -nol] seems to have more effect on guys when I wear it).

[Watcher]

A little tip go with my DD1 mix that is 70% SOE and 30%NPa this still gets the male attention that is people talking but it also has the effect of making the females a little more forthcoming. Its just one that has taken off or you could jump ship completley to something else ALTER EGO has 3 pheromones and kicks ass at getting female attention. Good on women of asian decent to.

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Does love-scent sell Alter Ego? I can find it on their page.

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click \"stone lab\" and you\'ll find AE

[Tom]

any more result with asians ?

I hope we can create special thread so not too many asian thread which can cause confuse

thanks

[SwingerMD]

I am also an American born Asain here in the US. For the past few months I have been testing out PI/m, SOE, andro-1, and RM. I have had quite a few successes with all of them except for andro-1, which I think is due to the fact that I have used it only twice and haven\'t found the optimal dosage for headaches vs. response.
My first major wild hit was on the asian chick, late twenties, on the bus. SOE seems to get major hits with the younger crowd. There were these two girls that looked like they were about 18 yrs that were right behind in line to get off of the bus. One started to sniff the air and said, \"Wow. He smells soooo good!\" :-D I had my earphones on with the sound turned off BTW.
I have also been testing out my arsenal out on the dance floor. So far I have found that I have the most fun with just wearing a straight -none product. Get tons of respect from the guys. And I get lots of follows to come up to me and ask to dance. In fact I just had a major hit on the dance floor just wearing RM (see RM hit thread).
It also seems that of all of the hits that I have had so far, most are coming from the caucasian gals rather than the asain gals. Now as for going after specific targets, I really haven\'t had much luck doing that. It seems that using pheros is like using a scatter gun most of the time. Anyhow good luck to all of my asain brothers in using pheros. My suggestion. Take dance lessons and get out on the dance floor. It is almost too much fun :-D.

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Did Rogue Male work better for you than Primal Instinct? I am deciding on which one to get, since I am looking into a -none product. Have you tried The Edge? I have that, but haven\'t had the chance to test it yet. What kind of music were they playing at the club? (I\'m just curious about type of crowd).

[SwingerMD]

Hi happyface! Still not certain if RM is working better than PI/m. I have used PI/m a lot longer than RM so that might account for the # of hits. IMHO RM smells a lot better than PI/m even if it is scented with Ylang-Ylang. It also seems that I get less wild (both positive and negative) reactions with RM. Personally I like RM since it is better smelling.

No I haven\'t tried the Edge yet.

They were playing live Swing music (a subset of Jazz) at the club. The band was a quartet playing in the spirit of Django Rheinhart, a guitarist that played during the Swing era cica 1930s-1940s. So the type of crowd there Lindy Hoppers like me (hence the nickname SwingerMD). Lindy Hop is a type of partner dance that was popular in the 1930s-1940s. Since the tempo was pretty fast, a lot of people were dancing Shag, Balboa, or Flying Lindy. Hope this helps.

[FerroMone]

Well i still got fairly consistent results using Nol and Rone only. Especially on younger girls. I used 2 dabs Nol and 1 dab
Rone. For asian pheros user out there post you resultsm here.

[SwingerMD]

Hi all!

I was using a combo of about 4\" on each arm of SOE and about .25\" of a 50:50 mix of RM and Aloe Vera Oil in a roll top. Unfortunatly the RM/Aloe combo separates after a while (using the oil to dilute the mix and make it roller friendly) so I have to shake it up before I use it. Anyhow I was wearing this to a lifeguard staff meeting at a pool I work at here. Now the rxn that I got was that all the most of the female staffers ended up sitting next to me by the end of the meeting. Most of the younger female staffers (the young ones are around high school junior and senior ages) were acting very goofy (for a lack of a better word).
Another incident today had me rethinking about how long SOE lasts. I haven\'t rolled any on today but just after I came in today a whole group of us ended up sitting around telling jokes and teasing each other (which is very unusual in the lab I work in). The only thing that I can think of is the SOE reminants that are one my shirt (same shirt I wore yesturday). Weird.

[Bernard]

hi, all
any views on using AE, Soe NPA and apc f/ asian. i know that AE contain none, nol , rone but can it mixed with soe/spmo? or will it be better if AE mixed with npa and apc?btw , can soe and spmo mixed or apply together?will i get the best result by using AE alone since it contain all the 3 phero .Is there any difference in soe and soe gel, beside its size?

[Bernard]

sorry f/ the repeated post. i\'ve used up my newbie set and left 2 soe gel. should i apply it directly or wait till i get a new product and then used them together.

[SwingerMD]

Hi Bernard,

AE from what I\'ve heard is a very good stand alone product since it has a very wide range of pheros. You can mix SOE and SPMO, but both would be better if you mix either of them with a small amount of a -none product. The gel pack is designed for one application, but I think it was discussed somewhere that the phero content is quite a lot for just one application and that you can maybe get two out of them.

In my experience SOE and the SOE gel packs are also great stand alone products. I tend to use the gel packs as an emergency pick-me-up since they are convient to carry around and the -nol and -rone in the SOE makes me feel relaxed.

[Bernard]

now it really makes me headache. i do not know what to choice from. AE or dynamic duo f/ men or soe. if AE and dynamic dou f/men are to be compared, which would be able to produce a better result?

[upsidedown]

I would suggest you get several products and try them to see which works best for you.....unless you only have the money to buy one product.

[SwingerMD]

Hi Brenard,

What have you tried out so far? I believe you said that you have the SOE gel packs, right? Have you seen results with those? Personally I\'d would just pick a product that I would be the most curious about and try it out. It\'s pretty much the best way for you to tell if it works for you. All we can do here is tell you what works best for us in what situation, amounts, etc . . . . Everyone\'s situation is different.

AE from what I heard is a very good stand alone product. The dynamic duo is a heavy -none product. If you are just starting out I wouldn\'t recomend this for people just starting off because it involves mixing. SOE is a great product to have in your arsenal. So my recomendation is to get SOE and a -none heavy product like RM and start testing. If I had to choose one I\'d take SOE since I don\'t think anyone yet has reported any seriously negative OD effects.

[FerroMone]

Same results here, it seems that NOL and RONE combination works well on young Asians, especially high school girls. I am using Nol and Rone pheros, but it is not SOE, these are pure chemicals so that i can vary the ratio of NOL and RONE.

For your information the ratio of NOL and RONE does not affect its effectivity, I have been experimenting using 4:1,2:1,1:1,1:4 Nol Rone ratio the results are still the same.

Nol and Rone combination works best if you have a very friendly, fun and happy personality.

I recently got into a class with 4 HB\'s with a rating of 9 and 10. I will try the pheros on these females and see if it works,
they are filipinas, and filipina-chinese descent.

I haven\'t try Androstenone yet, Does anyone know how much
Androstenone is needed to get positive results on Asian Females ??

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FerroMone, I\'m intrigued by your results. Are you asian? Asian in the U.S.?

You\'re one of the two people (the other one being, Thunder) who have posted results from using raw chemicals. What would you say is the amount you are applying (in mg)? I\'d be interested to see if you get the same results with SOE.

So, why do you say this combo works best of you have a happy, friendly personality? Do you have reason to feel that it would be less effective for someone with a more reserved personality?

Very curious. Thanks.

[Lee]

I think it\'s less effective when you are reserved. SoE causes chattiness and freindliness ONLY if you are open to it. If you sit there not smiling or looking to interact with anyone, how is that going to make anyone be friendly towards you? Because you smell good? Granted the pheros will relax people around you and make them talk, but it won\'t necessarily mean that they will talk to you if you do nothing.

So the reasoning for having a friendly and happy personality is obvious. People tend to like those type of people. Pheros open the door, but your personality does the rest.

[BassMan]

I only partially agree. I\'ve worn nol products on days when I wasn\'t feeling social one little bit. I _do_ agree that most of the time one has to initiate the conversation, but there have been days when my brilliant conversational gambit of (sullenly) \"hi...\" has resulted in hearing large pieces of a life story. It just depends on who is around and what they need to talk about...

[Bernard]

hi, is it possible that if i mixed SOE to AE , will the nol and rone dilute the NONE in AE due the increase ratio of nol and rone ? I\'m 23 yrs old and my target age of girls is from18-30yrs and i\'m single . will NONE in AE suitable f/ me and i think i\'m more of introvert .any poor result of AE f/ asian

[FerroMone]

actually i am a filipino living in philippines, so all my targets are either filipinas or filipina-chinese or hybrid filipinas because those are the major ethnic HB composition here. And mind you, they are the best. They might not have tall noses or meaner check bones but they have the greatest skin composition and color. The only filipinas with tall noses are the hybrids w/c comprises maybe 20-30% of the population. Hybrid filipina HB\'s and the new pure filipina HB\'s are not dark brown in color but rather light brown to yellowish in color or yellowish brown. I guess these are filipina HB\'s version 2 or 3.

I am 5\' 7\", mid 20\'s and slightly above average looking.

with regards to the amount I am applying, I use 5mg of Alpha Androstenol dissolved on 15ml of 70% ethanol 30% water solution. while on the Androsterone it is 10mg dissolved in 15ml 70% ethyl alcohol. My container is an open mouth bottle with about 5 ml opening. I would apply the Pheros by pressing the mouth of the bottle on my wrist then moving the bottle in the upside down position while the mouth of the bottle is in contact w/ my wrist, i guess this is what they call as a \"DAB\".

FYI , i think that the reason why NOL and RONE works on younger ASIAN females is due to the fact that the Leutenizing hormones of younger asian females is much greater than mature asian females because they have developing bodies and developing reproductive systems. It is also known that Asian Females does not respond well to pheros maybe because they have smaller VNO\'s so that the effect of Androstenol on Leutenizing Hormones would be greater on younger asians than older asians.


Well, I have funny observations on these pure chemical pheros, It is known throghout this forum that Androstenol does not have an odor and Androsterone smells like camphor or Menthol. Well when i got these pheros and dissolved them in alcohol, i observed that it is completely opposite to what the forum said. My Androstenol smells like Camphor while my Androsterone does not smell anything or is odorless. I am 100% sure that i did not in anyway or accidentally swapped the bottle because they came to me in a 2ml glass bottle in powdered form with labels and chemical formulas, they also came with organic chemistry symbols.

I was very lucky that i have a job in a company w/c uses these phero chemicals for research. Some pheros are used for test kits like androsterone that is why they are cheaper.

[SwingerMD]

Hi All!

Are there any of you guys still active out there? Just wanted to bump this up to the top. Right now I\'m in the midst of trying out APC -only and it seems to be getting some response from asian women (see Something Interesting), but these trials are still in the begining.

[MadMaxx]

I am not having much luck with the Asian females, though I am surrounded by thousands of them. I used to use products that were very heavy on -none. That only worked with the odd strange woman and ancient women. Now, I am going very heavy on -nol, plus either a bit of JB1 or APC. I am getting some good reactions here and there, such as hair flipping or a DIHL, but I don\'t really feel that the hits are overly abundant, considering the sheer number of women I hand around on a daily basis. I have noticed something interesting though. Since I changed to the new strategy, I get a hit from almost every single Caucasian or Latina woman that I encounter. Due to where I live, that amounts to about one a day or less, but nonetheless, I find it interesting that I almost can\'t miss with the non-Asians.

So, does anyone have a better idea than my current strategy for Asians. I am using SOE or PI/w, with some of the Musk Oil, and either some JB1 or APC.

[SwingerMD]

Hi MaddMaxx,

Where do you live? For asians (being one myself /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif ) it seems that we tend to be a quite bit more reserved when it comes to dating and love. With that said I believe that patience and persistance pays off when dating/pursuing asians in general. I think that you also have to be even more aware of subtle body language since it seems that in general asians usually don\'t approach especially outside of social situations. My suggestion would be to go hunting around in more social places such as clubs, bars, etc . . . .

Your strategy with using less concentrated -none products and heavy -nol ones is really good. It seems that I seem to be getting better reactions from asians and everyone else in general. We testing the heavy -none products I found that asians tend to bolt more than anyone else. As for SOE, wonderful product. I seem to get good rxns from everyone across the board. Hope this helps.

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Well, I\'m experimenting with a -nol and A-1 heavy mix with a dash of -none.

Current mix:

45% -nol
40% A-1
15% -none

Well, I\'ll be on vacation in foreign lands soon, so it\'ll be interesting to see if I have better luck there. =P.

[Lee]

Hey Maddux,

Don\'t mix your musk oil with SOE or PI/W, they are already -nol heavy and the musk oil only contains -nol too. SoE already smells good enough alone, maybe add some kind of -none product to it like NPA.

[FerroMone]

Well, i am always here on this thread tracking every sucess and failures of other Asian phero users or anyone who wants to attract asian females.

From my experience specially Filipinas, they are really reserved and even if she is so much attracted to you they will never approach you or show their attraction to you openly. You see in our culture, a female that approach a guy first or courts a guy is either a prostite or a cheap, easy to get female that long term relationship is not possible. A girl that courts a guy is a really really BIG TURN OFF to most guys and that includes me.

Some, filipinas are open that they might express their attraction to you openly by chatting with you or giving you a
really really cool eye contact or whatever. But most of them
will just keep their feelings to themselves so they will never express their attraction to you in an open manner. I believe that they always express it in a subtle manner.

It is quite essential for those who phero users who wants Asian targets to have a very good sensing ability of reading asian females\'s body language to assess hits using pheros.


I got hits using these formulas 3:2 Androstenol Androsterone ratio + lots of joke and self-confidence.

Well, I got some pretty large Androsterone supply about 5 grams, and I want to evaluate if it can get HITS if Androsterone is used by itself alone. If you want androsterone i can sell it at a low price if you want to. If we get our next supply well i can give you if you leave near my area.

More power to Asian Phero Users :-) Keep up the Field Test
and Post Your Hits Here to Help Us Create An \"ASIAN
VERSION\" of Jambat Mixes or Killer Mixes.

[MadMaxx]

I had a decent hit recently from a half Asian; half Japanese and half South American. This didn\'t really surprise me though, because I am tending to get good hits from non-Asians, and in the past I had a wicked hit or two from South American women.

This hit in particular was the more subtle type, but I think it was a hit.
It was not DIHL by any means, but it just seemed that I was causing some sort of chemistry to be happening, and she seemed to be getting hot and bothered and even acting impatient, like if I didn\'t come and hit on here soon she was going to have to come after me. Or, if I didn\'t do that I think she would have been pissed off. So, I just walked up and talked to her(this was in a coffee shop), and she was totally receptive and inviting and talkative. I was wearing PI/w, SOE, and JB1.

By the way, this is a thread for Asian hits, but does anyone have any experience or advice for getting hits with Latinas?

[MadMaxx]

I am interested in trying -rone.
You probably don\'t live near me though.
I am living in Japan.
I am caucasian, and as I mentioned in my post(Madmaxx), I am not having
that great of success with the Japanese women. Foreign women, both
caucasian and latinas seem to be very positively affected by what I am
wearing though.
Where are you located?

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True. As an Asian living in an all Asian society, I can tell you that most of the women here are reserved. This explains why I couldn\'t get direct hits doing nothing (wearing TE/SPMO). I believe I have observed increased chatiness with my female friends, though. Subtle still.

I\'m not very good at reading body language but I believe these are obvious signs of attraction:

1. hair flipping
2. frequent glances (they also tend to look away when you look into their eyes)

I still waiting for my order of JB1 and DD1 to arrive to see if these more powerful mixtures can give me more aggressive results.

BTW, what is the range of the pheros? I have the feeling that Asian women are poor phero sniffers.

[SwingerMD]

Hi All!

Just back from working and I would like to report a hit with APC and SOE on this cute filipina in her mid-late teens (16-17). After I got out of the shower at work I mixed in about 1/2 capful (I think about 0.5ml) of APC with some hair gel and worked it into my hair. To balance it out a bit I swiped about 2\" of SOE on my arms and neck.

I then went to help test out a group of people on their CPR skills. Immediately after the main instructor (my friend whom I agreed to help out) this cute filipina made a straight beeline to me, introduced herself, and asked her if I could test her out on her skills. She even divulged a lot of info about herself, without me asking. Didn\'t see any hair flips or DHILs, but she smiled a lot at me, caught her sneaking glances at me, and her pupils were really wide.

Was nice to her, but decided not to give any obvious overatures since
I think she was too young (one of my rules in dating is to not mess around with girls under 18) and that one of my main targets was lurking nearby.

I also seemed to notice that my line for testing people out was significantly longer than the other helpers. Some of the guys I was testing me out said I seemed a bit more tougher than the others. Hmmm . . . .

[FerroMone]

Where are you from? i\'m living in Philippines. All my targets are mostly Filipinas,Filipina-Chinese,Hybrid Filipinas. The last two targets are the best one coz they have taller noses, Light-Yellow-Brown complexion and skinny bodies. Well, we should share more of our hit stories and phero formulas here since you and I are the only one who have an all ASIAN targets.

I think we can conclude that Androstenol and Androsterone has some effects on Asian Females. Now, How about Androstenone ? Does anyone here has good hits on Asian women using Androstenone? If yes at what does mg/ml ?

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I haven\'t got any hit stories to share. The SPMO/TE 5:3 mixture I wear everyday (2 drops) doesn\'t seem to be very effective. Haven\'t got a DIHL yet. Either I\'ve been labelled as not attractive or the girls are just shy. The subtle signs attraction are also not easy to see.

I\'m still waiting for my SOE/JB1 order.

[MadMaxx]

BTW, what is the range of the pheros? I have the feeling that Asian women are poor phero sniffers.

That is kind of a mystery to me also. I am surrounded by 99% Asians. When I take public transit I find that women at 1-1.5 meters seem to possibly be affected, though the signs are quite subtle.
On the other hand, there are countless times when no woman around me seems to be affected. Also, there are definitely times when a woman 3-4 meters from me on a train is practically giving me a DIHL. Also, I have gone to parties, and women have given me a DIHL from several meters through a crowd of people! Had a good experience last night while watching the World Cup in a bar. A girl about two or three meters away was continually looking at me, according to my women friend. I actually didn\'t notice. The funny thing was, there was a guy right beside her, and a couple of guys between us, but she was honed in on only me. I guess it could have had something to do with taste in looks, but the guy beside her looked fine to me. Anyway, after the game I went and talked to her and she was very receptive.

I don\'t know. I think most Asian chicks have non-functional noses. I wrote in an earlier post that I get hits of some sort from almost every non-Asian woman I meet in a day, but less than exciting results from the thousands of Asians that I am encountering every day.

[franki]

Well I am not an asian guy, but I post this message on this thread, because it deals with an asian girl.

Today I met this chinese girl (22) I know from college in the train back home. I asked her if my cologne was too strong, because I thought I od-ed on cologne scent, but she said it was alright. (I was wearing a load of SOE and 2 sprays of TE + two sprays of Boss Elements EDT)

We talked for twenty minutes and she said she felt sometimes lonely living alone (in a strange country) and that I could come to visit her, bla bla bla. I am not overly attracted to her, so I didn´t push it further, but she is a friendly girl and she doesn´t look bad so maybe I will call her some time.

What surprises me is that she does not seem to be repelled by my heavy none signature, not only today but also in the days I´ve seen her in the past. I am guessing she doesn´t feel that much repelled by sweating white men (like a lot of her compatriots), since she decided to study in an european country like Germany, instead of China.

Franki /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

[MadMaxx]

Your story doesn\'t surprise me. I do have some luck here with the Asian women. I also am Caucasian by the way. My guess is that my signature is definitely too much for a lot of them, even without pheros, but a certain percentage of them don\'t mind at all, and actually probably really like the heavier signature of Caucasians. I have had asian girlfriends in the past tell me that I had a \"smell\", but it didn\'t bother them or repell them by any means.

[SwingerMD]

Bump. /ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif

[SwingerMD]

Hi all,

I went to a very packed club this sat. nite with my siblings and friends. About an hour before I got to the club I rolled on about 4-6\" of a 50/50 mix of RM and Aloe Vera oil. Plus I took a SOE gel pack and put it on the various pulse pts. I also carried more liquid SOE and my RM mix for emergencies.

In the car my bro was acting in a very confrontational move. Criticizing me on just about everything except for the smell of the stuff that I was wearing. Hmm . . . . Never has complained about the mones that I wear yet.

Got to the club an hour before happy hour ended so that we wouldn\'t have to pay for the cover. Wasn\'t too packed before we got there, but by the time the night was over it was wall to wall bodies. Only rxns that I noticed when I was in the club was that a few of the ladies there put put their hand on my back every once in a while. When I moved out to the packed dance floor I would notice that within 5 min (really hard to move around) the ladies that were moving out onto the dance floor would stop around my my area. The only stranger that tried to strike up a conversation with me was some guy /ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif .

Overall nothing overt, but the SOE really seemed to have a loosing effect my friends and people that I knew (I kept adding more SOE as the night went on). I think my attitude also had a big part of other\'s people rxn to me. I felt a bit unconfortable there. The music and dancing was definately not my style (simple and uninspiring bump and grind instead of the swing music and dance that I\'m into). I was my first time there and I\'m always not relaxed when I\'m in new places. One of my friends there had to keep on telling me to smile and she said that it looked like as if I really wanted to go home.

The make-up of the club was predominately caucasian with a few asian and african americans around. Told my sis that I would love to go down there at least once or twice before the summer is over. Just to hone my pheromone hunting skills /ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif in tight packed clubs. Besides the more I go the more relaxed I\'ll get. I think I\'ll try the APC in the hair gel thing with SOE as a back-up next time I go.

[SwingerMD]

Bump! /ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif Checkout Something Intersting for ongoing APC trial reports.

[FerroMone]

I got the cystalized Androstenone from the lab. Well it cost about $47.00/5mg not to mention the shipping cost,etc. It looks like a piece of very small glass and believe me i have a very hard time dissolving the thing into 70% ethanol and %30 water solution. It took me 24 hrs. to fully dissolve the androstenone crystal.

I will be trying this thing this week and hopefully by next week I will be able to post results.

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As an Asian, I\'m quite short (5\' 3\"). How much -none should I be wearing?

[FerroMone]

In my 3 day field test i mixed 1mg/15ml of Androstenone to %70% ethanol base. I used 3 dabs and 1 dab of it on my wrist, I did not yet get a DIHL or OD reactions. 1 dab i think is about 0.002mg of Androstenone so that 3 dabs is 0.006mg A-None.

0.002mg and 0.006mg of A-None is still safe and you will not get an OD, however it also did not give me a HIT. It is possible that the concentration of A-None is very small, I think i will increase it to 4,8,10 dabs. let see if it gives me a hit

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Hmm, I remember reading somewhere that it takes at least 0.0015 mg for it to be effective.

[upsidedown]

I\'m thinking from what I read that it should be more like .015 to be effective...which is quite a bit more than was used.

[FerroMone]

no hits yet for Androstenone, i will try another mix.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

My experience with -none mixtures is that after several hours of application the fragrance wears off and I smell like I got BO. Though I\'m not very sure if that triggered any negative responses. :/

And yes, I\'m getting some responses from -none (JB1).

[FerroMone]

Would you mind telling the signs of HITS of Androstenone on asian women ?

[MaxiMog]

I think the archives have lots on information in this subject...

[SwingerMD]

Hi all,

Just got back from a pretty busy day. I did get some interesting mild hits on several Asian women using APC. I had a total of 10 drops on (two on each arm, behind each ear, and on the neck). I was waiting for a bus at the international district standing next two these two Chinese women 19-23 (saw their college ID passes). Wasn\'t paying them much attention while I was waiting, but when I got on the both waited to see where I sat and sat right in front of me /ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif . The during the entire ride to the University District they both removed their hair bands, flipped their hair, and would occasionally sneak glances back at me.

On the ride back from the University District pretty much the same thing happened to me with three Vietnamese college students. They waited until I sat down then took the seats in front of me. On the ride back, all three were flipping their hair, and in addition to that they seemed to be talking about me, pointing in my direction and giggling. Man I wish I could understand Vietnamese or both of the Chinese dialects. No hits from any Japanese women yet (then again don\'t seem to be running into them).

This is the second time that I have had positive rxns from Asian targets (this time multiple) using APC. Hmm . . . methinks I\'m onto something. /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

[MaxiMog]

I bet 10 drops of APC will cause positive reactions in about every woman. Then again, congrats!!! Is it really so different???? I have some vietnamese relatives, and when I\'m wearing SOE, it clearly causes something in them. Of course I would never have a relationship or one night stand with a relative, so I don\'t really care.

[FerroMone]

Well very good :-). At least we are seeing reactions from asian women with -NONE based products. As for me, I don\'t see reactions yet from Filipina women using -NONE. Keep Posting.

[SwingerMD]

True. I do notice rxn across the board, but I haven\'t noticed much positive rxn using RM or PI/m when I\'m hanging around Asians.

[FerroMone]

Well I will try -NONE and -RONE for asian women. Any comments or suggestions ?

[Tom]

BUMP

Hope this thread active again /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

[Tom]

HI Swinger,

If you got hits from 10 dabs of APC, please try:
1. Repeat same application again (10 dab of APC)
2. Less APC (say it 2-4 dab APC), but add other None product (say it

half Dab of TE) or estimated total none apply almost same
3. Use Half dab of Heavy none, or less than a dab alone.
4. Start reduce the APC amount time by time, and see.

What is the result ?
I hope other member also can Try 10 dab of APC and report the result

I Think 10 dabs of APC is still low none compared to 1-2 Dab of other

heavy None product (Such as PI or one Spray of TE or Andro), so maybe

it is true that Asian did not need so high none to apply.

Thanks

[SwingerMD]

Hi Tom,

1. Done this and have gotten noticable rxns in my dance class from everyone including my instructor (all caucasian though).

2. Did try 4 dabs on bus and immediatly two Vietnamese ladies 20-25 years switched seats to sit in front of me.

3&4. Will do. Don\'t have TE, but have PI/m and RM.

[FerroMone]

I still don\'t have any hits using -ANDROSTENONE alone.

[Tom]

Hello Asian researcher, keep posting and discussing to find the best formula for Asian user.
I still trying many combination, but til now still trying.
When I try to ask to a chick about her comment which smell is better between Realm and APC, she say Realm is better. I ask her to smell it from my hand ( I spray realm in one hand and I put

some APC in other hand, and less than a minute I ask her to compare it), after try the smell of Realm and APC she did not react something strange.

I still did not try my PIm, TEfW and one night stand, but I will try it soon.
so keep posting guys

Good luck