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NoLimits
05-27-2002, 06:49 PM
Hey guys -

Something to try along with the pheromones...

Manganese is the mineral that activates enzymes needed for the production of sex hormones (testosterone, estrogen, progesterone, etc.) - I\'ve been increasing my intake in foods high in mang the last couple of days and oh ya! - I do feel like I\'m producing more mones. Doing this along with pheromones might be a killer combo. Try it and let me know the details.

So far, the best results for me are from pineapple, oats, instant tea, ground cinnamon, and ground cloves. Start with some oatmeal sprinkled with cinnamon and cloves and whatever else you want on it and some pineapple juice for breakfast - drink instant tea during the day and have some pineapple with your dinner - you get the idea.

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl (\"http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl\")

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/SR14/wtrank/sr14w315.pdf (\"http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/SR14/wtrank/sr14w315.pdf\")

oats, 1 cup: 7.669 mg
pineapple, canned, 1 cup: 2.791 mg
pineapple juice, 1 cup: 2.475 mg
cloves, 1 tsp: .631 mg
instant tea, reg or decaf, 1 tsp: .518 mg
cinnamon, 1 tsp: .383 mg

Some forms of oats may also have the ability to free up bound testosterone.

http://www.smartbodyz.com/AvenaSaText.htm (\"http://www.smartbodyz.com/AvenaSaText.htm\")

Does anybody have ideas on other ways to increase hormone levels? Some others that come to mind: weight lifting, certain smells, looking at hot babes, supplements like DHEA and androstenedione...

**DONOTDELETE**
05-27-2002, 08:51 PM
How about copulins? In <a target=\"_blank\" href=http://evolution.anthro.univie.ac.at/institutes/urbanethology/student/html/astrid/femphers.html> this study</a> , it’s odor increased saliva testosterone-levels of male study subjects by up to 150%!

30s

Bruce
05-27-2002, 10:51 PM
No Limits,
Nice post. Welcome to the board.
The herb tribulus terrestoris (sp??) is popular with lifters and boomers alike for raising T levels. I read it works especially well with DHEA so I have been taking the Twinlabs product Tribulous Stack which contains a generous portion of both of those. I take it twice a day.

I\'m also a big fan of lifting wts, cycling, good diet, and healthy mental/physical/spititual relationship with my wife as part of the project.

Bruce

Whitehall
05-28-2002, 08:33 AM
To increase testosterone, you can get a promotion, win a fight, take a new lover, get elected President.

Watcher
05-28-2002, 12:24 PM
Lol no limits, hey that is a title of a song a couple of years back my favourite solo artists anita doth - the homepage link on my profile used to be in the techno/dance/rap act of 2 unlimited and that was a big hit of theirs early 90s.
But yeah tribulus is great take it with the above mentioned eat plenty of meat DHEA/Gingko bilboa/Zinc?magnesium?iron as well.

Do weight lifting also try protein shakes (whey concentrate is also good) Abstain from sex the day before and after weight lifting that includes masturbation as high testorostrone levels increase the results gained from weight work also only do weights max every 2nd day otherwise the results can be lessened as the body doesnt have enough time to recover, chuck in a run on the off days.

**DONOTDELETE**
05-28-2002, 02:20 PM
Hey, watcher or dd or whatever you are these days..

Arn\'t u in Oz? Don\'t they cut your gonads off for DHEA possesion down under?

Its bad news in the UK as well for this, but not unobtainable!

I use 75mg a day with Saw Palmetto, multivitamines (with probiotics(bugs)) and omega3 fish oils. Damn I think maybe I rattle sometimes..

Boomshankah!

Watcher
05-29-2002, 12:18 PM
Lol actually it can be brought in most of the health food stores down here - they say you need a naturalpaths script, although most are run by naturalpaths and dieticians so really they can just say yes here you go. Its all legit so yeah its only if one imports the stuff as an individual (companies have the correct import licenses etc or its made locally)

NoLimits
05-29-2002, 08:17 PM
Bruce:

Great tip on the tribulus herb - I read that it raises T levels 30% in 5 days. Has anybody else found any T raising supps that work well?

Watcher
05-29-2002, 10:50 PM
Yeah i have had great results with using tribulus, although the current herbal combination product i have is called super horny goat weed.

It has the following in it and in the following amounts this stuff is the best i have tried so far.

Epimedium sagittatum herb top 3000mg
Tribulus Terrestris fruit and root 5000mg
Liriosma ovata root 1500 mg
mucuna pruriens seed 2000mg
gingko bilboa leaf 1000mg
Withania somnifera root 500mg
Avena sativa seed 500mg
turnera diffusa leaf 250mg
Panax ginseng root 250mg
Eleutherococcus senticosus root and rhizome 250mg
Vitamin E 41mg
Pyridoxine hydrochloride 20mg
Nicotinic acid 10 mg
magnesium 5 mg
zinc 12.5 mg

This mixture i have had great success even better than tribulus straight it acts as a big testorostrone boost and last a fair time. Also it acts as a great aphrodisic although that is not my primary reason for taking but raither as a workout booster and also to recover quicker and to have more energy all round.

Anyone else got any more information whey concentrate protein powders are also good for workouts + creatine supplements also.

oscar
05-30-2002, 03:18 PM
Watcher,

That sounds like a pretty intense supplement. I\'m curious as to whether these are total bottle contents, or what? Because if you add up all the milligrams you come up with nearly 14,000mg, which is nearly half an ounce.
Please tell me this isn\'t a single dose!

By the way, turnera diffusa is the fancy name for the Damiana herb.
http://www.damiana.net/ (\"http://www.damiana.net/\")

Oscar

**DONOTDELETE**
05-30-2002, 03:31 PM
60 Capsules

GBP: £28.25
Euro: 46.00 €


Quantity:



An All-Natural Phyto-Aphrodisiac

DESCRIPTION:

It\'s an improbable name, one that invites attention and giggles. But behind the light-hearted nickname stands a serious herb. The Chinese consider horny goat weed the premier libido-lifter for men and women, and top aid to erectile function in men. While the exact way that horny goat weed works remains unknown, the plant has long been employed to restore sexual fire, boost erectile function, allay fatigue and even alleviate menopausal discomfort.

Each safe, highly potent capsule contains a unique and powerful complex of herbs formulated to support libido and sexual activity through a variety of mechanisms. These herbs include Horny Goat Weed, Maca Pure, Macuna pruriens, and Polypodium vulgare, which in combination, can help support higher performance in and out of the gym.

Horny Goat Weed is a traditional botanical medicine used in China and Japan. Although this herb (which also goes by the names Yin Yang Huo, Inyokaku, and Herba Epimedii) has a history of traditional use for disorders of the kidneys, joints, liver, back and knees, its principle use is as an aphrodisiac. It stimulates sexual activity in both men and women, stimulates the sensory nerves and increases sexual desire.

RECOMMENDED USAGE:

Take one to two (1-2) capsules daily or as recommended by your health care professional.

Its a US product so you should be able to find out more locally.

I don\'t think you could fit 1/2oz of herb in a cap, so these must be extracts, unless dd has got his mg messed up ;~}

www.biovea.co.uk (\"http://www.biovea.co.uk\") is the UK ref. I believe they do ship wordwide.

Boomshamkah!

Watcher
05-31-2002, 02:27 PM
Yes oscar that is one tablet, its a big blue thing easy enought to swollow and the effects are bloody amazing goes under the name of super horny goat weed he he.
Big blue tablet i actually get amazing benefits out of it only need to take one of them a day and i got lots of energy. Havent tried it as far as sex yet but for workouts and general energy levels it is great.

oscar
05-31-2002, 03:14 PM
Watcher,

What\'s the brand name of the Super HGW you have?
I saw a product with the same name online under the \"Action\" brand, but it didn\'t list all the components that you mentioned, and the quantities of the ingredients were considerably less. For example it had 500mg of Epimedium (Horney Goat Weed) etc.

Are you quite sure you transcribed those milligram amounts correctly?

The probability of a half-ounce tablet seems a bit hard to swallow!

Oscar /ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

Watcher
05-31-2002, 10:12 PM
Yep in australia its called super horny goat weed with tribulus terristris under the company name of body science labs.
And the tablet is certainly fairly big and yeah the amounts i typed in were directly off the packaging. 11 grams or there abouts would be what is in the tablet. So no bullshit coming from this end of the world lol. It actually has quite a [censored] amazing effect energy levels up so much im running great, and no side effects or ill health etc my gp cleared its usage as well ( i am not on any medication but always double check just to make sure) Its only a new product on the market to.

Watcher
06-02-2002, 12:01 PM
Anyone else wish to comment on this stuff as far as being a good product or not.

**DONOTDELETE**
06-18-2002, 04:54 AM
&gt; Manganese

Umm...

\"The key health hazard associated with repeated occupational exposure to inorganic manganese compounds is damage to the nervous system. This can lead to changes in the ability to control movement, with a notable loss of the fine control of intentional movements. \"