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**DONOTDELETE**
05-12-2002, 02:35 PM
Gents

It is of interest to note that Ms Cutler has a patent on the use of -nol + DHEAS to manipulate the LH levels in females. So the rumours concerning the use of DHEAS in athena may have a modicum of truth.

Patent applications are a mine of info for phero users.

Boomshankah!

Teak
05-12-2002, 03:12 PM
Interesting and well spotted images/icons/smile.gif Does this mean DHEA can be absorbed into the system via the skin then I assume?

xvs
05-12-2002, 10:09 PM
What\'s the patent number you found?

**DONOTDELETE**
05-13-2002, 01:17 PM
Gents all and sundry...

U.S. application Ser. No. 694,947, filed Jan. 25, 1985, entitled \"The Use of Male Essence, Including Androstenol and Dehydroepiandrosterone Sulfate to Treat Luteal Phase Defects and Failure to Ovulate in Human Females\" (Attorney Docket MON-35)

Boomshankah!

oscar
05-13-2002, 01:44 PM
Gents,

The actual patent resulting from that application is http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN%2F5155045 (\"http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN%2F5155045\") . I think. images/icons/crazy.gif

Oscar images/icons/crazy.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
05-13-2002, 02:28 PM
Gents
http://gb.espacenet.com/ (\"http://gb.espacenet.com/\")

or
http://ep.espacenet.com/ (\"http://ep.espacenet.com/\")

Are very useful for locating patent info.

Well worth a look

Boomshankah!

xvs
05-13-2002, 03:19 PM
I\'ve seen that one before, and to me the most interesting parts are:

5. The method of claims 1 or 2 wherein said at least one component is selected to comprise at least one compound selected from the group consisting of androstenol, adrostenone, dehydroepiandrosterone, dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate, androstadienol, androstadienone, androsterone sulfate and natural derivatives thereof.

6. The method of claims 1 or 2 wherein said at least one component of said axillary secretions include the component of said secretions exhibiting a burnt heavy axillary-like odor which elutes at about 50 minutes as shown in the FID response curve of FIG. 3B.

She mentions all the pheromones people commonly think about in 5, and in 6 she seems to have discovered a new one.

Which makes me wonder whether her 10X and 10-15 products could actually contain something new that no one else has.

**DONOTDELETE**
05-13-2002, 03:41 PM
This is the abstract from espacenet as cut and pasted..

A novel method for altering length of the menstrual cycle of a human comprising the step of exposing the nasal region of said female to at least a portion of the axillary secretions of a male. This exposure is preferably continued in amounts and for a duration which are effective to significantly alter the expected cycle length of that female. In particular, the portions of male axillary secretions to be exposed to the female preferably comprise one or more compounds such as androstenol, dehydroepiandrosterone, and/or a compound or compounds exhibiting a burnt heavy axillary-like odor which elutes at about 50 minutes as shown on the FID response curve of Figure 3B. Studies show that pooled male donor secretions are effective to alter aberrant menstrual cycles, particularly those exhibiting luteal phase defects such that they become presumptively fertile menstrual cycles having durations of about 29.5 +/- 3 days.

Boomshankah!