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xvs
05-09-2002, 12:54 AM
Some people seem to get great results with -none containing products such as PI, NPA, etc. Others don\'t. I put together this survey to see if we can find any pattern in who gets good or bad results with -none.

Please take a moment to answer it!

1) Would you say your results using your favorite -none containing product are:
A) Poor
B) Fair
C) Good
D) Very Good
E) Excellent

2) Which product is your favorite?

3) How much do you apply of it?

4) Would you say you get good results:
A) Never
B) Occasionally
C) Frequently
D) Fairly reliably
E) Every time!

5) Before you started wearing pheromones, did women ever tell their friends that you intimidate them?

6) Before you started wearing pheromones, did you consider yourself:
A) An alpha male, leader of the pack
B) An alpha male, though not everyone acknowledges it
C) Sometimes a leader, but more one of the crowd
D) A follower: you like others to take the lead
E) The underdog

7) What is your height?

8) Physically, are you:
A) A body builder or work out at least 4 times a week
B) Athletic -- work out or play sports at least twice a week
C) In shape: go to the gym once a week
D) Not bad: look OK but don\'t work out much
E) Relaxed
F) Hey, I\'m a couch potato, so what?

9) What is your age:
A) 15-20
B) 21-25
C) 25-30
D) 31-35
E) 36-40
F) 41-45
G) 46-50
H) 51-55
I) 56 and up


Thanks a lot guys... I think this will help us figure out what\'s going on.

[ May 09, 2002: Message edited by: xvs ]

xvs
05-09-2002, 12:59 AM
My answers:

1) A - Poor
2) Chem set
3) 1 smear to 3 drops
4) A - Never
5) Yes
6) B - Kind of alpha
7) 6\'
8) B - Work out
9) F - 41-45

[ May 09, 2002: Message edited by: xvs ]

ironration
05-09-2002, 02:07 AM
My answers:

1) A - Poor
2) PI (only none I have tried)
3) 1-2 Drops.
4) A - Never
5) No
6) C - Normal Beta
7) 185 cm
8) C - In shape
9) C - 25-30

**DONOTDELETE**
05-09-2002, 03:36 AM
my answers are:

1.d
2.tie between jb1 and pi
3.depends on circumstance, enviroment
4.d.
5.never
6.d
7.d
8.d
9.d

camusflage
05-09-2002, 04:55 AM
1 D) Very Good
2) Chem set. Most flexible
3) Small amounts. Never more than .2 mg
4) D) Fairly reliably
5) No, if any reason other than reservedness.
6) F) The guy who can easily step up to being a leader in a void or if current leadership is doing a poor job.
7) 5\'10\"
8) C) In shape: go to the gym once a week
9) C) 25-30

**DONOTDELETE**
05-09-2002, 06:25 AM
Here ya go...

1) D
2) PI/m
3) 3 dabs to 3 drops
4) C
5) Yup
6) B
7) 5\'9\"
8) D
9) G

jose
05-09-2002, 06:53 AM
1.C
2.PI
3.2 to 4 dads or just 2 sprays.
4.B
5.no
6.C
7.5ft. 8in.
8.B
9.D

[ May 09, 2002: Message edited by: jose ]

**DONOTDELETE**
05-09-2002, 06:56 AM
Please take a moment to answer it!

1) Would you say your results using your favorite -none containing product are:
A) Poor

2) Which product is your favorite?
PI/m (only one I have)

3) How much do you apply of it?
Tried from a smear to 4 drops

4) Would you say you get good results:
A) Never

5) Before you started wearing pheromones, did women ever tell their friends that you intimidate them?
No

6) Before you started wearing pheromones, did you consider yourself:
C) Sometimes a leader, but more one of the crowd

7) What is your height?
5\'9

8) Physically, are you:
C) In shape: go to the gym once a week

9) What is your age:
A) 15-20

It seems that people should compliment what chemical structure one has. If you are an alpha male, go with -none. If you are more of the beta type, go with the -nol. Agree? Disagree?

Whitehall
05-09-2002, 08:04 AM
1 - D
2 - NPA
3 - 2 dabs to neck
4 - D
5 - no data
6 - B
7 - 6\'1\"
8 - B
9 - H

a.k.a.
05-09-2002, 12:06 PM
1.D very good
2.chem kit None
3.two small dabs at .5mg/ml
4.E great hits every time(not necessarily sex)
5.not that I know of
6.mental alpha, physical beta
7.5\'8\"
8.B work out almost every day, but no weight training, more lean than muscular
9.F 43

Thx for conducting this survey. Hope we see some paterns.

Shoe
05-09-2002, 02:49 PM
1) Would you say your results using your favorite -none containing product are:
A) Poor

2) Which product is your favorite?
PI/m over NPA

3) How much do you apply of it?
Tried from 1/10 to 4 drops

4) Would you say you get good results:
A) Never

5) Before you started wearing pheromones, did women ever tell their friends that you intimidate them?
No

6) Before you started wearing pheromones, did you consider yourself:
D) A follower: you like others to take the lead

7) What is your height?
6\'4\"

8) Physically, are you:
B) Athletic -- work out or play sports at least twice a week

9) What is your age:
A) 21

There seems to be a trend of older guys doing well with -none.

[ May 09, 2002: Message edited by: Shoe ]

xvs
05-09-2002, 05:04 PM
Please keep those responses coming.

So far, I have found a very good correlation between the sum of alpha-male-ness, height and age.

It seems to show that you would tend to get good -none results if you are some combination of shorter, older, less alpha and less physically active.

If you are taller, younger, more alpha and more physically active, you would tend to get no good results.

Here\'s the data so far (kept current with all the data tabulated):

HERE (\"http://www.geocities.com/escapefromnyc/survey.html\")

The blue line is the reported effectiveness of the -none containing products. Higher is more effective (Extremely effective would be 20).

The purple line is the sum of reported alpha-maleness (1-6); age (9=A, 1=I on the survey above); and height (with the tallest height reported so far of 6\'4\" being a 9 and the shortest height so far of 5\'7\" being a 0).

So my score is 13:

Alpha 5
Height 5
Age 3

As can be seen in the graph, all who had scores of 13 or above failed to get a postitive response from -none.

Those who had scores of 11 or below all got some degree of positive response from -none, and those with scores of exactly 12 were split - one got good responses, the other didn\'t.

[ May 10, 2002: Message edited by: xvs ]

**DONOTDELETE**
05-09-2002, 08:16 PM
1. Very Good
2. JB #1 (Of course)
3. Two sprays
4. E)
5. No (And I don\'t think they do now)
6. B)
7. 5\'7
8. D)
9. C)

**DONOTDELETE**
05-09-2002, 09:31 PM
1) Poor
2) NPA
3) 2 sprays of diluted mix to clothing
4) Can\'t tell (Never)
5) No
6) C
7) 5\' 10\"
8) B
9) 25-30

**DONOTDELETE**
05-09-2002, 09:51 PM
Good work! It\'d be good to compile this data into a table, since it\'s hard to read. We should also do a survey on -nol, -rone, and A-1, as well. Unfortunately, it\'s hard to separate out the effects for many products.

xvs
05-09-2002, 10:01 PM
Can you guys see the chart GIF? I\'m not sure if it\'s loading properly.

It is compiled into a spreadsheet, which is how the graph was generated.

I see a clear trend in the graph, and if it continues should have an easy formula people can use to predict whether they\'ll have success with -none products.

**DONOTDELETE**
05-10-2002, 02:42 AM
1) A

2) I like the smell of SoE and APC ; own those and NPC and PI also.

3) Tried 1 drop of individual products to 8\" swipes of SoE and various combos.

4) A

5) Not that I\'m aware of

6) Depends on the situation

7) 5\'6\"

8) A ; train 3x week

9) 49

**DONOTDELETE**
05-10-2002, 02:54 AM
1) B
2) SOE+NPA or TE, ARAMIS+NPA,
3) Still testing
4) C
5) YES
6) B
7) 1.84m - 6\'04\"
8) C In shape: go to the gym 2/3 times week
9) E

xvs
05-10-2002, 03:12 AM
Jim and Lusoman:

Thanks for responding, but your answers aren\'t useful for this survey because the products you\'re reporting are not strictly -none products.

For the purposes of this survey, products which contain only or mostly -none are being considered. These would include PI, NPA, chem set -none, etc.

See the current results at:

THIS PAGE (\"http://www.geocities.com/escapefromnyc/survey.html\")

**DONOTDELETE**
05-10-2002, 03:18 AM
Correction:

2) NPA/TE
4) B

rjm
05-10-2002, 06:30 AM
1 C

2 NPA

3 Amount varies. I start with about a drop or two; if no reactions, I up it a drop at a time.

4 C

5 No.

6 B

7 5\' 10\"

8 E-F images/icons/wink.gif

9 D

**DONOTDELETE**
05-10-2002, 06:46 AM
1) Would you say your results using your favorite -none containing product are:
A) Poor
B) Fair
C) Good
D) Very Good
E) Excellent

fair

2) Which product is your favorite?

Andro 4.2

3) How much do you apply of it?

About 3 sprays.

4) Would you say you get good results:
A) Never
B) Occasionally
C) Frequently
D) Fairly reliably
E) Every time!

B/C

5) Before you started wearing pheromones, did women ever tell their friends that you intimidate them?

No, but I and my friends think that I intimidate women.

6) Before you started wearing pheromones, did you consider yourself:
A) An alpha male, leader of the pack
B) An alpha male, though not everyone acknowledges it
C) Sometimes a leader, but more one of the crowd
D) A follower: you like others to take the lead
E) The underdog

B

7) What is your height?
5 feet 10 inches

8) Physically, are you:
A) A body builder or work out at least 4 times a week
B) Athletic -- work out or play sports at least twice a week
C) In shape: go to the gym once a week
D) Not bad: look OK but don\'t work out much
E) Relaxed

D

F) Hey, I\'m a couch potato, so what?

9) What is your age:
A) 15-20
B) 21-25
C) 25-30
D) 31-35
E) 36-40
F) 41-45
G) 46-50
H) 51-55
I) 56 and up

D

**DONOTDELETE**
05-10-2002, 06:58 AM
1. Poor but not giving up
2. Only have PI/m
3. 2-3 drops at most over APC
4. Occasionally
5. No
6. An alpha male, though not everyone acknowledges it
7. 5ft. 7in
8. In shape: go to the gym once a week
9. 23 yrs old

slatedrake
05-10-2002, 07:14 AM
1) B
2) NPA
3) 2 drops
4) B
5) NO
6) A
7) 5\' 11\"
8) A
9) D