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Whitehall
05-08-2002, 02:51 PM
Here\'s a link to a table for steroid metabolism. I recognize a couple of our pheromones here (like rone) but neither -none nor -nol. Just how do we make this stuff?
http://www.genome.ad.jp/kegg/pathway/hsa/hsa00150.html (\"http://www.genome.ad.jp/kegg/pathway/hsa/hsa00150.html\")

**DONOTDELETE**
05-08-2002, 03:09 PM
same way we \"excrete\" other \"waste\" products. Interesting though. Are not pherin plodding around the etiocholans? You should read some of their more recent patents, most interesting... ;}

oscar
05-08-2002, 03:25 PM
Whitehall,

I was always under the impression that A-None and A-Nol were products that resulted from the (external) bacterial breakdown of metabolytes secreted by our Apocrine glands in the process of disposing of Testosterone and other glandular waste. Thus the actual conversion of these metabolytes doesn\'t occur within the body, but rather on the outside.

I\'m not too good at reading charts like this, but I\'d guess that this one doesn\'t go outside the skin to include external influences.

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Whitehall
05-08-2002, 03:38 PM
Oscar,

Since none and nol releases can reflect the internal state of the individual, I doubt that we would rely on exterior bacteria to make the conversion.

oscar
05-08-2002, 04:34 PM
Whitehall,
http://members.aol.com/nonverbal2/apocrine.htm (\"http://members.aol.com/nonverbal2/apocrine.htm\") http://www.sweating.net/ (\"http://www.sweating.net/\") http://www.vh.org/Providers/Textbooks/MicroscopicAnatomy/Section07/Plate07140.html (\"http://www.vh.org/Providers/Textbooks/MicroscopicAnatomy/Section07/Plate07140.html\") http://www.howstuffworks.com/sweat2.htm (\"http://www.howstuffworks.com/sweat2.htm\")

First I\'ll apologize for not knowing how to present links in the slick fashion that everyone but me seems to have mastered.

Secondly, I\'ll apologize for not coming up with one definitive reference for what I\'m trying to prove. It WAS there, somewhere, a year ago.

But, if you extrapolate the information seen (I think) on each of the links above, that the secretions of our apocrine glands are SCENTLESS until they are acted upon by bacteria on the skin, then you must (?) assume that if it doesn\'t stink, it isn\'t Androstenone....YET.

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Oscar