The Hit Squard: Masters Unit

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Calling all squad members. You\'re all being reactivated. Randy, CJ, Paul (aka Donald Duck), Redcapp and crew the hit squad is back! images/icons/wink.gif

[Bruce]

Hey Jambat!

Back from the dead. Welcome back. Missed you terribly. Your \"Jambat mixes\" have lived on in your absence though, so you are immortal.

Donald Duck has gone through various incarnations on the board since you were gone. Lately he has been Jambat II, so now that you are alive again, maybe we should see if we can get him to go back to being good old Donald Duck again for old time\'s sake.

Anyway, where the heck you been?

Bruce

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I decided to take a breather. It happens with this forums when you\'re tightly wrapped up in them. Not to mention I didn\'t have a lot to contribute because I wasn\'t going out and such (and still don\'t to much now), but I\'m back. And I figured the first thing was to get the band (if you will) back together.

As you all know this is where we post testimonials and helpful advice. Mostly about the JB mixes but it can actually be about any pheros.

I personally like to hear about how pheros are used at work, especially in the still somewhat PC climate (the threat of harassment suites and such).

Plus I answer questions in best way I know how, and Paul (Jambat II) kicks in a bunch of ideas and such too. So looks like we\'re back on track for now.

-The Bat

[jose]

Jambat IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! images/icons/laugh.gif

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Yes, I\'ve returned. I\'m anxious to hear how everyone\'s been doing. Specifically did anyone try the NPA/NOL mix at 30/70 or the PI/NOL mix. Fill me in.

-The Bat

[ April 23, 2002: Message edited by: jambat ]

[Watcher]

Ok thats it jambat 4 or JB#4 is now
30% NPA and 70% SOE i figured if i styled myself as jambat II then it would lure the original back he he.
Last ditch attempt didnt think anyone else would think of it but anyway welcome back bat.
Actually currently im off all pheros just working out to guage the difference of effects with and without pheros along with a good body need to spend less time posting here as well.

[rjm]

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Ok thats it jambat 4 or JB#4 is now
30% NPA and 70% SOE i figured if i styled myself as jambat II then it would lure the original back he he. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It would \"LURE\" the orioginal back? Cute...

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Hey Jambat, just to fill you in, the new kid on the block is what we have been calling \"andro-1\".

Due to agreement restrictions it cannot be publicly discussed, but I am sure Bruce can help you with that one.

I would love to try that too but I live in Argentina and the dollar is so much more expensive now, I cannot afford it (300% increase and going up!).

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Speaking of the \'none and \'nol mix together at 30/70 ratio (JB4 if you will) I think I\'ll try a different approach of using 30% NPA and 70% PI/w ... yes that\'s right PI/w. You\'d be surprised at how well it works for guys. I would assume a 1 week trial period is enough to experiment with around the office and after work in social situations. Any one else want to try this with me to compare notes? Anyone?

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WHAT!!! Someone actually mixed PI and NPA. WOW!! I gotta know what happened there. Don\'t you smell like a stink monster after doing that?

And tell me more about this Andro-1. I think Donald Duck had some inside info on that one when it was first being tested but I\'m not sure.

Donald, I had to come back and Jambat II did get me curious. images/icons/laugh.gif

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MARZ!!! It just hit me what you\'re doing. You\'re using PI for women! Yes! That\'s an awesome idea. I batted it around before but I don\'t think anyone payed it too much attention then. You\'re certainly on the right track. Oh I am so interested in what you\'re about to do.

The nol base of PI/w is just what some guys need to make it happen for them. I mean think about it. A powerful nol based mone like PI/w mixed with a powerful none base. It\'s almost common sense!

-The Bat

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What kind of store can I get a dirt cheap atomizer like the one Bruce sells? Right now I have a 30%NPA 20%APC 50%ADDIDAS COLOGNE in the one Bruce sent me, but it will take almost a week to use it up to try the NPA and PI/w mix.

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Pushed andro 1 to begin with it was truth and thunder who really took the bat up and ran with it.Havent tried it probably wouldnt get through aussie customs anyway.
So thats why im leaving that one alone just using SOE now.

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Hey Jambat! Man, I\'m so glad I checked back and I didn\'t know you were back! I was gone for a while too and I see there\'s a lot of new names here and I don\'t know anyone of them anymore. But it\'s so nice to see you here again. I\'ve been very busy lately with this girl that I hooked up with and never been able to test out the combos cause i have someone guarding me all the time. That\'s what I\'ve been doing lately.

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Yes Red I\'m back. I just got back a few days ago. Judging by your signature you got the Creed \"Weathered\" CD. Good music. Hey, since you got a chick now so you can give me all your unused mones. images/icons/laugh.gif

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I was wondering... where are the hit stories?
Where is the hit sqad?

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Although I wasn\'t part of the original hit squad, my hit stories are so numerous that they\'re just common now. I posted some of them a while back. subject: \"Pheromones = Success !\"

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Nice to see u back jambat! I thought you got abducted by pheromone-sniffing aliens or something or maybe you were kidnapped by one of the girls that smelled your famouse jb1 images/icons/smile.gif
Well i don\'t have much pheros left either and I\'m thinking of getting some new ones. But i realized that I probably need more of the delightfully intimate instead! images/icons/laugh.gif

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Bad-grass...
...Alot of people don\'t talk at length about their pheromone success and many times they may not put those stories here. I encourage you and anyone else to put any phero-story (especially JB mix stories) here.

Marz...
...We\'d love to here all your pheromone stories, keep em coming. It\'s helps all of us to know what others are doing to get the hits and we all love hearing the stories. As you see Bad-grass want to hear some and I like to hear how people are using them in the work enviornment (as I\'ve stated before) so we\'re all interested.

Redcapp...
...I think you\'re right. Your phero testing days maybe nearing an end. But then again, that\'s kind of the point right? images/icons/smile.gif

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Speaking of the \'none and \'nol mix together at 30/70 ratio (JB4 if you will) I think I\'ll try a different approach of using 30% NPA and 70% PI/w ... Any one else want to try this with me to compare notes? Anyone?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dude -- I\'m there on Monday, BUT I gotta ask... Just cover with anything?

[wingrider81]

HI ALL,
Jambat welcome back. You were definitely missed. I hope that MYCROFT will return too. Hey Marz tell me more about these PI/W mixes. I tried PI/M with indifferent results and know I want to try something different for those polarized women we have up here.. I want a curveball in the arsenal.
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Jambat / Randy / Wingrider...the last MAJOR hit I had was wearing PI/w and JB1. I brought this girl over to watch some TV, or movies. I excused myself to go to the washroom and applied 3 drops of PI/w and used 2 swipes of JB1 (4 inches each). As we sat there beside each other in front of the TV, she leaned in and and put her head on my chest. As she did that she started using her fingers to play with my mouth. One thing led to another and well...you know. That was the 2nd time I had ever seen her.

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I´m going to do a similar thing tonight:

I plan to go clubbing with a JB1/SOE/A1/PCC-combo. images/icons/laugh.gif I am not afraid to smell like pussy, so I am applying a NICE amount of PCC.

I am going to start without the a-1 and apply it later, so I should be able to see possible changes in behaviour that are due to a-1. However I am not expecting to much of the a-1 since I haven´t read to many `hit stories` about it.

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Dragged JB #2 out today...
...I think you guys will find JB #2 to be pretty good for clubs too. I went to a club today...
...I should preface this by saying someone\'s usually having a bachelorette party at the clubs I go to...
...And someone was doing that just tonight. I paid my $3 and walked in and just as I started to get my dance on the girl grabs me and throws me into the middle of the circle. So I\'m dancing with all these chicks right. As the music played the women started to go their own way and I danced with two of them for quite a long time.

Later I went downstairs where the big bachelorette party was and again I was pulled into the party and found myself and one of the girl\'s boyfriends in the middle of about 50 chicks. I danced with the one that pulled me in until it was time for me to check out. Now I know at this point, I have better luck on the dance floor with mones than without but I usually wear JB #1 but JB #2 seems to have been the winner today.

[ May 05, 2002: Message edited by: jambat ]

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Well it was´t the greatest night out yesterday, but that had nothing to do with the mones.

The PCC and the A-1 seem to add something to the already good SOE/JB1 combo, but I am not sure yet how and to what extent. I saw a LOT of girls turning their heads to me, but to be honest, that could have also been because I smelled weird.

It looks like I have to some more testing the coming week. images/icons/laugh.gif

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hey jambat: what is your jb#2? i am new to the forum and i know waht jb#1 is...glad youre back by the way!!

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I finally mixed 30% NPA with 70% PI/w in the atomizer Bruce had sent me. This mix as it\'s becoming known (after Jambat and myself)is called JBM-1. I\'ll test it out all week and report on any findings hopefully sometime soon.

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Spiderwebster...
...JB #2 is 70% SPMO and 30% NPA. As we all know SPMO is good for Nol.

Marz...
...I can\'t wait until Monday night to hear about what happens. This has to be the mix. My preditions, hits on the JB #1 scale and above. Anyone else with predictions? DD, Randy, what do you guys think.

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Marz...
...how\'d that mix work out for you?

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JAMBAT-

I have quite intresting reactions to the JBM1 mix after day 1. Day 2 is just starting out but the best test will be on Day 3 when I go to an employment office for a 2 hour interview. I\'m trying to hold back on posting right now so that I can do it all in one shot after the week is over. But I must say, it\'s working images/icons/wink.gif

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I got my SOE today to test along with my PI/m. My cold is finally subsiding and im gaining my voice back images/icons/blush.gif I should have an interesting day tomorrow hopefully when i apply both.

On a funny side note. I was mixing some paint for this woman who came to my store with her mother. She seemed to be in her late 30\'s and her mom was in the late 50\'s early 60\'s. She was standing by the paint shaker talking to her mother and as i approached she started giving me these sharp intense stares and paying no attention to what her mother was rambling about.

It was weird because she would look up, stare intensely, then look away, then repeat, lol. As if she was about to engage in a conversation or expecting one. I caught one of her stares and told her i was going to give her 10% off on her paint, for which she said \"Ohh thank you.\" and then looked down and away shyly.

The funny thing is after she paid and left, i clocked out and went walking to the supermarket next store down which by coincidence, she was going to as well. I kept a distance of about 15 feet. Now here is where it gets weird. I went in behind them and quickly made my way to get my radioactive lunch back to work. As i went to the express lane to pay, i look back and see her, one person behind me.

As i get to the front, the cashier begins sliding my food on the scanner and looking at my shirt as she does this. Most people have name tags on their work clothes but we do not, lol. All we have is the company logo at heart level. Thats when it caught my attention that she was trying to see what my name was because of the particular spot she was gazing into. As i reach to pay, my peripheral vision catches everybody to my left looking at me intensly images/icons/blush.gif

I swear it felt like something out of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It was as if i was the last human and they were going to assimilate me, lmao. I paid and left back to work.

I could hear the slow building chants of moreee brainsssss following behind me j/k. All in all a good day images/icons/laugh.gif

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SOE and PI(m)? I\'ll take note of that.

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Jambat Mixes and what they do (in theory).

JB #1 (The Champion) 70% APC + 30% NPA:

Well this one gets women\'s attention usually immediately. Great for clubs and pretty much any where else. Great scent too. Warning: If you wear too much women will run.

JB #2 (The Wizard) 70% SPMO + 30% NPA:

Gets women talking and friendly. This is what I wore for a good while. Funny thing is it seems to make women a little crabby if you wear too much. Great first date phero though. (Wear about three of four drops).

JB #3 (The Quandry) 70% PF + 30% NPA:

As unstable as it is it does work on some people but isn\'t consistant even with them. Can cause friendliness, crabbiness and probably any other emotion a woman can have all in the same day. Take a chance on it just to see what it does. Some people use AE and get the same effect.

JBM #1 (The New Guy) 30% NPA with 70% PI/w

Don\'t really know what this does. I\'m waiting for feedback from Marz. In theory it should have the same effect as JB #2 only greater. Seems like it should be a perfect none/nol mix. For dates (especially first dates where talking is crucial).

JBX (JB Extreme) A lot of stuff.

Mix Apc at 25% NPA at 30% PF 20% and SPMO 25% and see what you get. I don\'t know if mine was this accurate but it\'s something like this. It doesn\'t seem to work too well for me but smells pretty good and I\'m willing to bet it will be a knock out for someone on this board. Is this a crazy concoction that I came up with and want you to risk your social life to try? You betcha! (Hey, I\'ve tried crazier). images/icons/laugh.gif

-The Bat!

[HB_88]

Jambat:

Thanks for the list. Saved it to my c: drive and will refer to it often. images/icons/smile.gif

HB_88

[aaron]

Ordered the PI(w) which was ordered yesterday and shipped yesterday (outstanding servvice Bruce images/icons/smile.gif) with the intention of mixing up a JBM#1 mix since PI(w) seems to be getting a lot of success, and since I\'m being exposed to a lot of \"first blind date\" situations it seems a great way to test the effects.

So far have tried:
APC/skin lotion + X-cite wipes (once)
APC/skin lotion + SoE (twice)
on three separate occasions. Results in the \"Looking for Love...D-Day 18th April thread.
Unless I get my order before Saturday (unlikely), date #4 will probably be JB#2.
I think I\'ll post any results here as well as in the original thread, so please forgive the duplicate postings.
I\'m very curious as to the effect of pheros on different ethnic groups. Date #4 sounds very much of middle eastern origin (dark hair, dark eyes, dark skin, caucasian features - devastating combination images/icons/laugh.gif - I can dream, can\'t I). Roll on Sunday night images/icons/cool.gif

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jambat: all i can say to you is thank you thank you thank you for coming up wth jb#1....it has given me more powerful, consistent hits than anything else!! plus, i dont have that scared feeling one gets with just way PI or maybe npa/colgone...it makes me feel confident ...and the power aura that it gives off is just overwhelming !! i think you have become a living legend jambat..thank you again!!

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No prob Spidey. Glad to help.

By the way everyone. I was asked how the JB mixes came about, here\'s the story (this is also posted elsewhere in the forum).

How the JB mixes happened.

First I ordered APC because at that time people were big on APC but as some of you know we soon started learning APC wasn\'t big on mones. (I think it has about the same amount as Realm). But you can get some good hits using it in large doses. My first hit happened this way. I was hanging out at a club and a woman bought me a drink. Never ever happened to me. But I had totally ODed on APC (APC is safe to OD on).

Then Edge was became real big for a minute. I tried it and got very small results. I mean nothing great. Older chicks paid more attention when I spoke to them but no one hit on me or really cared anymore that I was around or anything. So I asked Bruce about mixing APC and TE and he said if I wanted to do that to get NPA because it\'s an additive but he warned me about it\'s scent and it\'s power.

I didn\'t want to OD so I thought I might go 50/50, but Bruce\'s warning stayed with me so I figured since APC had mones in it 50/50 might not be a good idea so I went 30/70 and JB #1 was born. I got on my first try. When I tested it I got what I now know as hits. I was unsure at first but now I know they were hits because when I walk on a bus no one usually cares, with JB #1 I walk on the bus and all (atleast a lot) female eyes are on me. I sit by a woman and she can\'t stop checking me out. So I started reporting my findings. Paul (aka Donald Duck/Jambat II ), Redcapp and Randy started trying it out and reporting back and it got real big.

I found later that NPA was the key but APC\'s scent seems alluring (also NPA seems to enhance APC\'s scent). So I started trying other low Phero mixes with NPA and got JB #2 and the totally unstable JB #3 and JB-X (which I don\'t really use).

Then PI(w) came in Bruce was telling us how much A-nol was in it. I sugguested that people try mix NPA and PI(w). But I hadn\'t tried it the kits were coming in, Donald Duck was pushing AE mixes and all kinds of things were happening so the sugguestion went virtually unnoticed.

When I came back to the forum a few days ago I noticed that Donald Duck had become Jambat II images/icons/smile.gif and that Marz was looking at doing this experiment. Since he was the only one who was going to do it I dubbed the mix JBM#1 after him and me.

That\'s the story. Peace.

-The Bat

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Jambat Mixes and what they do (in theory).

JB #1 (The Champion) 70% APC + 30% NPA:

Well this one gets women\'s attention usually immediately. Great for clubs and pretty much any where else. Great scent too. Warning: If you wear too much women will run.

JB #2 (The Wizard) 70% SPMO + 30% NPA:

Gets women talking and friendly. This is what I wore for a good while. Funny thing is it seems to make women a little crabby if you wear too much. Great first date phero though. (Wear about three of four drops).

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Some newbie questions re: these two mixes.

1. Are they better off applied using an atomizer or drops (the \"three or four drops\" comment for #2 makes me ask).

2. How much is too much? (\"...women will run\" comment for #1 makes me ask).

3. As I am relatively new to cologne (moving there from aftershave), where does one apply cologne? (Realize that this is an embarassing question, but I just don\'t know!)

4. Any true word on what the difference is between the SPMO you can buy and the Musk Oil I received as part of a newbie kit several weeks ago? Is it the same thing?

Thanks!

.WiseMan

[Watcher]

JB #1 is a very potent mix. Works great, you could try with SPMO to substitute with SOE which mixes well with NPAA by the way.

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Anwers to Wiseman\'s Queations

\"Some newbie questions re: these two mixes.

1. Are they better off applied using an atomizer or drops (the \"three or four drops\" comment for #2 makes me ask).

I prefer an atomizer. But drops are effective too.

2. How much is too much? (\"...women will run\" comment for #1 makes me ask).

I usually do three sprays of JB #1 maybe 4 in a club.

3. As I am relatively new to cologne (moving there from aftershave), where does one apply cologne? (Realize that this is an embarassing question, but I just don\'t know!)


With JB #1 and #2 you don\'t apply cologne. The mix smells great. If you mean where to apply it then try the hair, neck and chest.

4. Any true word on what the difference is between the SPMO you can buy and the Musk Oil I received as part of a newbie kit several weeks ago? Is it the same thing?


Not that I know of. Maybe Donald Knows.

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Just came back from my final night of testing the new JBM-1. I\'m so tired right now so I\'ll give the full report when I wake up. This is pretty powerful stuff images/icons/wink.gif

[aaron]

Jambat: thanks for the information re JB#1 and #2 as to how much and where to apply.
I mix in atomisers myself, it\'s much easier to apply.
It appears Wiseman\'s pre-empted my questions concerning this, and they\'ve been answered before I even asked.

Marz: looking forward to hearing about your trial with JBM#1. I\'m anxiously awaiting my delivery of PI(w) so I can whip up a vial of it myself.
I have a date on Sunday and would love to have tried this. Theoretically it appears it may have awesome results. However, for the time being, I\'ll be trying JB#2. Looking forward to it images/icons/laugh.gif

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JBM-1 Results

To quickly clear things up, JBM-1 is a mix of 30% NPA with 70% of PI/w named after Jambat and myself (marz). I mixed this ratio into the atomizer that Bruce provided from a previous order and tested this out over a span of 5 days Mon. to Fri.

I noticed while mixing these two products together that they don\'t necessairly mix well (bubbles formed). However, one curious observation is that when shaken around, the contents blend into a \"myst\" like colour. The best way to describe it is to compare it to \"fog\".

THE RESULTS:

WOW, is the only way I can describe this. The hits were extremely consistent. People, especially women became very friendly around me. Both men and women would open up to me out of the blue. Their reactions to me were surprising. There were so many hits, I\'ll just describe a few:

- A girl I work with who is very reserved and shy would start talking about sex. She\'d be jittery around me, flirting physically and with her comments. This is quite unusual for her. It\'s like a side of her I\'ve never seen before.

- There is one guy at work I don\'t get along with at all. Yet when he sees me, he initates conversations and tells me about what he did the night before, how he met this girl and that etc. almost as if asking me if I approve of his actions.

- Standing in line at McDonald\'s, a woman standing behind me began standing beside me to get a better look at me, while the ones to the sides did the DIHL.

- Passing by women in various stores in close proximity would result in them whipping their head around to get a look at me. Had numerous DIHL this way too.

- When purchasing something at the check out, female casheirs would initiate conversations, and had one actually ask me for my number.

- Had an interview for a job the other day, there were two of us being interviewed at the same time, yet the interviewer payed 80% of his attetnion on me. Plus I got a call back for the second interview.

- Went to a club Friday night. Had 6 girls approach me to try to make small talk and one actually just grabbed me and took me on the dance floor to dance even though she told me she had a boyfriend. One that sat beside me put her hand on my lap, one kept returning over the course of the night and another one didn\'t want me to leave when i wanted to go home.


These are just a few of the encounters. Not to mention I had a couple of days of quite the opposite effect. People all around me didn\'t feel too comfortable. The reason...OD. The best observation I made was that it\'s very, very easy to OD using JBM-1. Two sprays from the atomizer or anything above that resulted in an OD. The best application is either only 1 spray OR 2 dabs on your thumb spread around behind the each ear. Apparently the spray applies more than a dab would. Be careful, I repeat, never use more than the recommended dosage, it is VERY easy to OD on this, and there is absolutely no need to re-apply this over the course of the day. It lasts around 12 hours at least if not longer.

Hope this helps, I encourage everyone intrested to try JBM-1 out to see for themselves. Just be carefull of the OD.

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Thank you Marz for hooking us up with that info and I\'m going to hook you guys up with more info. This will be a big day for JB mixes.

Now for my news, you all know NPA\'s effetiveness versus TE\'s effectiveness has been debated as far as use in the JB mixes. We know NPA is stable and gets consistant hits. For those of us on the TE sucks squad we know TE is questionable as far as effectiveness and stability. But I will do this...

Today in addition to Marz discovery I\'m adding a new mix to the JB list called JB-Bootleg.

What\'s JB Bootleg? Well, it\'s APC and (you guessed it) TE. I know, I know. I said it couldn\'t be done. Actually it\'s not that it couldn\'t but that you shouldn\'t. NPA gives you the best results when mixed with APC. But I realise people often end up with APC and TE.

The answer is yes. You can mix TE and APC. How to do it effectively you may ask? Simple logic. The reason JB mixes are 70/30 (30 on the NPA side) is because of NPA\'s strength. Some argue TE is watered down NPA. In theory that\'s true. So I used that theory in a simple experiment. I poured 50% APC in a small vile and added 50% TE. Yep that\'s the mix. No frills.

Benefits
cheap...
Mix is somewhat cheaper, especially if you\'re a newbie and get the TE for $24.00. Well NPA is $30.00 for 5ml while TE is 24ml for $30.00. In the long run you save money and still get a pretty decent effective mix.

Good hits...
Hits are pretty good (see below), somewhat like JB #1 but not as consistant. You can walk in a room with JB #1 and all female eyes look at you. With JBB some/most may look at you. But you get what you pay for.

Disadvantages
No frills...
NPA gives APC a kick in the tail like nothing else does while enhancing it\'s scent. But JB-Bootleg smells like TE covered by APC. (Actually it smells like APC).

Double the dose...
With JBB you\'d use double the dose you\'d use for JB #1. We usually say anything over three sprays of JB #1 is an OD and sometimes 3 sprays is an OD. But I could see someone giving themselves six sprays and being fine. But you may want to experiment. (Frankly I wish someone would try it). images/icons/smile.gif

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JBM-1 Results

To quickly clear things up, JBM-1 is a mix of 30% NPA with 70% of PI/w named after Jambat and myself (marz). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Question: Jambat\'s earlier post says that JB #1 is 30% NPA and 70% APC. Here I see 30% NPA and 70% PI/w. Seems to be contradicatory info or are JB#1 and JBM-1 different entities altogether?

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WiseMan-

They are two different entities all together. JB-1 has been a heavy hitter here for quite a while. JBM-1 is a different mix all together, the new kid on the block if you will.

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JBM-1 may be similar to JB with Musk Oil, since both add -nol to the mix. I may try JB with Musk Oil, since I don\'t have APC. So, do you think a 70/30 ratio is necessary for musk oil? The musk oil scent seems pretty strong. Would 50:50 do?

[aaron]

Originally posted in \"Looking for Love...D-Day April 16th\"

Results with JB#2

Update on date # 4:

I had a meeting arranged thru the agency for 7.00pm today.
I thought I\'d be a little adventurous so I applied a spray of JB#2 to my hair, a spray to the throat and a spray to one of my wrists which I rubbed with the other.
I also use 4-5 drops APC in Vaseline Intensive Care Skin Lotion over my face and arms (wear short sleeved shirts), as I find it\'s a lot like aftershave balm, leaves the skin nice and soft and the APC smell is a lot more subtle than EDT or aftershave.
I do not apply any other colognes or EDTs.

My dinner companion arrived 45 mins late. As expected from her name she was of middle eastern origin: Dark skinned, dark haired, dark eyed and with an unconventional beauty, sophistication and dignity.
As soon as she got close, her eyes lit up, she smiled and wouldn\'t stop apologising for being late to such an extent it was embarrassing.
She was talkative. Very, very talkative. Highly intelligent, well educated, professional, and felt very at ease and secure with me.
I\'m not certain if it was my attitude that made her feel this way or a combination of that anfd the JB#2.
Nevertheless, this was the nicest meeting I have had through the agency with a very delightful and charming lady.
The evening went by too fast, every other phrase she said was \"thank you\" to whatever I said, she smiled and laughed a lot, and before we realised, the lights had gone down and the restaurant staff wanted to kick us out images/icons/tongue.gif
I walked her to her car, at which point we agreed this had been a lovely evening and that it would be lovely to meet up again. We exchanged telephone numbers, and she told me that this was the first time that she\'d felt this comfortable and at ease with someone she\'d met for the first time.
She gave me a big hug and a kiss on the cheek, and then another bigger hug and kissed me on the lips, all the time saying that she was sorry she\'d been late and wished we\'d had more time together.

Whether these reactions and talkativeness were her normal behaviour, or were as a result of my politeness/interest/confident attitude (which seems to increase with each date), or a combination of these and the pheros....who knows.
It\'s hard to say whether I would have had the same results with SoE or X-cite rather than JB#2, but if it\'s the pheros....score one for the \"friendly\" mix of JB#2.

Incidentally...no reaction from anyone on the subway on the way home. It appears JB#2 works best on a one-2-one dating situation to make your target more receptive.

Can\'t wait to try JBM#1 when I receive PI(w) in my next delivery.

I kinda feel guilty in having more dates arranged for me by the agency, but I believe it\'s best to find someone you really like before you start thinking about what may, or may not, happen in the future, and there\'s no harm in seeing who else the agency might set me up with. The membership\'s for a year, and I\'ve only been with them a month...so anything can still happen.

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aaron...
...You\'ve hit the nail right on the head. JB #1 seems to make the woman a little more aggressive. She may make the first move but on a date JB #2 is king. But JBM-1 could quite possibly be the best of both worlds! The theory behind it seems reasonalble enough and Marx seems to have proven it. Just as you\'ve seemed to prove my JB #2 theory.

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This is report on PI/w.
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have been testing a combination of Andro 4.2 and PI/w. I would like to be using APC or PI/m, but at the moment Andro 4.2 is the only -none product that I have. I can\'t be sure of the ratio I am using, since I don\'t mix them. I just apply them seperately; a spray or two of Andro(the sprays often vary in size; in particular, the first spray is often a bit small), and then 2 drops of PI/w around the neck/ears.

On Day 1 I took the subway twice; the first time a young 20-something sat beside me and couldn\'t stop stroking her hair the whole time(it was to short to twirl), and the second time I stood a couple of feet from another young one and the same thing happened.

Day 2, nothing much, but I did notice a couple of cases where the girl serving me at McD\'s in the morning, and the waitress I had at lunch where definitely more solicitious than usual.

Day 3, went to an audio store to buy some cable. The guy who rang it up couldn\'t stay out of my face, it was almost embarrasing. He must have thanked me 5 times for making a purchase, each time just about sticking his face in mine. I guess if you walk around with the amount of pheros on you that I put on, you gotta expect shit like that.

Later at the bar, met a chick I had met once before, and her friends also. She was kind of touchy, and I often found her taking my hand for no apparent reason. She was quite receptive to amount of physical closeness that I wanted to initiate. She sent me an e-mail the next day saying that she wants to get together soon.

Day 4, went to the same bar. Two women jsut walked up to the bar and starting chatting and I couldn\'t get them to shut up and I couldn\'t get rid of them. At one point I stood just up the bar from them and the one practically demanded that I come and stand by her. She was totally receptive physical contact from me, and was actually getting really hot, even though the air conditioner was blowing right on our heads. Also got one or two mild DIHL from women the same evening. The downside is that none of these women was attracive for me.

Day 5, date with victim from the previous evening. Dinner was find, went to a cafe, and I ended up pissing her off with something I said. Things felt uncomforable after that. I said good-bye to her at the train station and I moved toward her slighty just to pat her on the elbow, and she leaned into me, obviously thinking I was going to kiss her. I couldn\'t believe she was expecting that. Anway, that\'s it so far. Tonight I have a meeting with a male friend and 2 females. I haven\'t met the women, so it should be interesting to see how they react.

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The right amount of A-none and A-nol is like magic. If I get a girl to dance with me while wearing the mones she\'ll stick around and if she\'s dancing apart from me (as women do when you first start dancing with them) she\'ll eventually get closer. And when the dance is over many times they hug me. (The custom is normally to shake a man\'s hand when the dance is over or just say thanks). Right now I\'m working with a pretty good mix but it\'s not NPA/APC or any of the stronger mixes. I plan to invest in JBM #1 at some later date but for now it JBB (JB-Bootleg). Besides I need cash right now so no romance without the finance, know what I mean. images/icons/smile.gif
-The Bat

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Going job hunting tomorrow. Anxious to see how the JBB will work. images/icons/wink.gif

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Im wondering jambat what would happen if SOE was added to some of these mixes with the rone or even andro-1. Actually a1 could be the trick to counteract the negative moods of anone.

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You are right DD,

I think a-1 is one of the most underrated products here on the forum.

It would be great if the a-1 could eliminate a lot of the negative effects of a-none. If it could do so it should be in every phero mix. images/icons/tongue.gif

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[Shoe]

Guys, I\'m planning some A1 + none tests. Maybe you read some of my earlier posts, I\'m pretty accustomed to the negative affects of none. I think I haven\'t been able to get close enough to see any positive results images/icons/wink.gif . I\'ve had pretty good results with A1, a lot of \"don\'t I know you from somewhere\" stuff like some others have reported. Anyway if I have any results I\'ll be posting on the big A1 thread.

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Shoe i would make it a 3 way mix at first and then 5 way. Nol none and a1 for starters then.

IF anyone is willing to try this.

Rone nol none a1 and couplins. I would love to see the results

Rone = dependable
nol = giggles & chatting
none = alpha male
a1 = mood elevator
couplins = make women feel close to you and increase male aggressiveness but also respectability.

[xvs]

OK, so who has theories as to why when I use -none it\'s a negative, and -rone seems to neutralize any effect anything else I put on has?

NPA, for example, never works at all for me.

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Nope, no theories on that one.
-Bat

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I suspect you would be better off omitting the rone. I\'ve never read a convincing explanation of what the rone does in a mix. I can believe in potentiation of nol or none but suspect it brings its own edginess. Has anyone tried JUST rone? I\'ll bet its a bust - more negative hits and wearer mood depression. I could be wrong.

The none/nol/a1 and maybe copulins sounds like a lethal mixture. One could vary the none/nol predominance for either sexual or social enhancement.

Copulins on a male is still up in the air in my mind. The social validation theory (effects on females) certainly has merit and I\'ve had non-exogenous experiences that are supportive (natural copulins, direct from the source!) What do other guys do in reaction to a guy wearing copulins?

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Donaldduck,

I think it\'s best to use just A1 and -none, and see if I can get a little closer to people than with just -none images/icons/smile.gif My experience with JBM-1 has been that people will have lengthy and engaging conversations with you, but from four feet away. Kinda wierd ...and this was using only a couple of dabs.

If I have success with this the -nol should be an added bonus.

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I\'m going to try this new \"Rogue Male\". I like the name and you can\'t beat the deal.
-Bat

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What do you people think about Rogue Male? Anyone got it yet? Ironically I had called my latest JB Mix JB Rogue, which I quickly changed to JB Bootleg after seeing the new product. Did it even come in yet?

-The Bat

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It will be nice to try, but at the moment it appears the consignment is being used as a coffee table by some bored Fedex employee\'s who can\'t get it on to shift it.

Patience is a virtue...but waiting is a pain.

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Hey all,

I\'ve never posted before, but i\'ve got a question. I probably should have put this post somewhere else, but you guys seem to know what you are talking about, so i figured I\'d ask you. Anyways, I\'m a neophyte to anything involving pheromones. I just ordered that starter deal(musk oil, edge, and atomiser) and I have no idea of the concentrations that I should be using of the products, or how much of the mixture to apply. It would be an enormous help if you guys could tell me what to do. Probably help some other newbs too. Anyways, I look forwards to getting enough spare cash to try that JPM 1, and now I\'ve got that atomiser. No cash now though, dropin a v8 into my chevette. Anyways, keep up the good work guys, your helpin the hopeless people like me, and we apreciate it.

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all i want to say is JB#1 kicks ass!! i only use it and PI exclusively...PI more for when i wnat respect and attention at the office, and JB#1 when im out on the prowl,..both work great and i have to say that i am indebted to mr. bat for his discovery!! thank guys and love reading the hit posts

[Watcher]

It works well enough to be very good just follow jambats insturctions they will be posted by him often enough.

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I\'ll tell you what. Rub a few drops of that oil on your neck and spray two shots of TE and call it a day. That\'s my advice but that\'s coming from a guy who doesn\'t really like TE. Donald Duck might have some sugguestions.

-The Bat

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There definately is something going on with these pheros. I use PI/m and SOE. Just the other day i put some drops behind the ears of PI/m and a couple smeared on my goatee. I then put an inch of SOE on one wrist smudged to the other.

One lady came in to buy some quarts of paint and ended up leaving with $150 of quarts. I basically had to lie and say i ran out of a certain base cause i was tired of mixing crap and her kid was getting annoying. She was asking all sorts of questions from what music i liked to some other stuff which i forgot. Her kid was like a leech next to me. I use a rubber mallet to close the paint lids after i check the color and at one point i felt like smacking him upside the head just to get some space.

But it wasn\'t till i saw her twirling her hair while talking to me that i almost broke out with histerical laughter. What makes this stuff so interesting is that not everyone seems to react to it, but you damn well know when it zaps someone. Some older women were buying garden supplies and they had a daughter. She was probably in her 17 to 18 years. The thing is when she came in with them, as soon as we saw each other, it was as if her eyes were transfixed to mine. She just stared at me like wanting to grab me. She had this sexy intense look in her eyes.

I went through another aisle to sneak up behind and see if she was checking me out, and when i looked through the opening of the sides, she was hardcore staring at me with a little smirk images/icons/laugh.gif I tried to beat her at the stare down but i fubared images/icons/blush.gif It was just so intense. There is this one woman who i\'ve only seen twice but has hinted to being single. I wanted to say something the last time i saw her but in my line of work if you make a move you will most likely have to fix some broken $hiznit at her house before you can get some play images/icons/tongue.gif

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Mixing paint and chatting up babes. The way of a true hit squad member. images/icons/laugh.gif

-The Bat

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Jambat, I have been mixing PI and PI/w with cologne over. The experimentation has been lets just say more fun than any human should have, to steal a quote. The recipes you offer are based on nol and none, is the 70 30 ratio still true with the stronger PI mones? Mixing paint nice analogy. I find the more PI/w I use the chattier the women get, side note men too. Sometimes it is hard to end the conversations they can almost be annoying.

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Ace-

Thanks!

It seems like the ratio you describe is similiar to the NPA-PI/w JBM#1 mix.

With -none concentrations of NPA & PI, it seems that 30% NPA/PI to 70% light or non -none based products keep working out best.

I wonder if the oil base of PI is better or worse for mixing with PI/w than the alcohol base of NPA. I am interested to hear what the veterans have to say about this...


Morning Wood

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Ace-

Regarding your experimentation with PI & PI/w, what mixing ratio has given you the best results thus far for...

1. Social hits
2. Sexual hits
3. Best of both worlds


Morning Wood

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Morning Wood, well I started out with one drop of each and found slightly better interactions than with PI alone. But after upping the dosage to 2-3 drops PI/w to 1 drop PI the interaction has increased dramatically. Socially conversations can seem to run on. Sexually/Socially in a club one night, just dancing in place I was slapped on the ass, became the object of a stagette party and danced with whomever I wanted. Although I wasn\'t looking for sex I am sure I could have pursued if I was (married but having some fun). My friend was a skeptic until we were at the same party one night, but we seperated and he had a women start to focus on him, by the time the night was over we had danced with her and all her friends. It was a ball. Side note - age doesn\'t seam to matter I had an older 70+ women come out of no where at this party and she was stuck to me like glue, until I walked her to her hotel and got a cab out of there.

1. Social hits - 2-3 drops PI/w 1 drop PI
2. Sexual hits - 3+drops (haven\'t gone there yet) to 1 drop PI
3. Best of both worlds - I am not sure where the threshold is.

I guess I would have to say I noticed a big difference once I applied more PI/w than PI but I am not sure as of yet what the best ratio is thus my question for Jambat.
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Ace...
...I can\'t speak for all mixes but when dealing with NPA (and probably PI too) stick with 70/30. The none is very strong and you don\'t want to scare the lady.

Donald Duck...
...Been having some luck with JBDD. (JB #1 plus SOE). A lot of conversations on the train. Here, no one wants to talk to you on a bus for obvious reasons but I\'ve been striking up pretty decent conversations with women on trains. Kinda of cool actually. Haven\'t tried RM out yet.

-The Bat

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Thanks Bat, I thought that might be the case. Of course pushing the envelope may occur from time to time, that is the nature of these things. I will report on these experiments as well. I will be recieving SOE today, I hadn\'t thought of mixing them all, but thanks to DD i will give that a try as well. images/icons/cool.gif