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**DONOTDELETE**
03-29-2002, 03:16 PM
hey fellow Phero fanatics,(say that three times fast) I\'m trying to get an old girlfiend back,was wondering from everyones personal experiences is their a Phero that anyone has found works best? I\'m currently using the Excite wipes with good results.I know if it aint broke don\'t fix it,but why settle for Boones farm when you can have Don Perignon! Please help

Paul canada
03-29-2002, 03:35 PM
Hey:

Use PI(w) I met this girl and she said that she wasn\'t ready for any major relationship so I said cool, so last nite I put 5 dabs of pi(w) on and within about 1 hr she was all over me. I have used many of Bruce\'s products and I find PI(w) works the best for me. SO why don\'t you give it a try

Paul

**DONOTDELETE**
03-29-2002, 03:47 PM
thanks,i\'ll try that.Have you found that whle wearing Pheros women will be too intimidated or nervous to aproach you?It\'s driving me nuts!!!

**DONOTDELETE**
03-29-2002, 04:38 PM
PI/w is for women, that being said, I\'m curious why it works so well ON women???

**DONOTDELETE**
03-29-2002, 05:00 PM
Hey how are you doing?
I find something strange. A couple of days ago I ordered PI(m). I had no Idea that PI(w) can be used by men to attract women.
Is that possible? To my understanding, if a phero product is for Women, then it atracts Men and vice-versa. Are there different pheros that attract men and different ones that attract women?
I would appreciate it if you would help me figure out this thing. What\'s more worth it, buying PI(m) or PI(w). I am a guy. Which will work best for me?

Regards,
Albus2k

oscar
03-29-2002, 05:02 PM
marz,

Gotta figure it\'s that mega-dose of Androstenol! 1.1 mg/mL is a pretty heavy concentration even if it is only A-Nol.
And theoretically the Copulins, however much or little may be in there, may make a woman feel safe, as though she were in the company of another woman. (?)
Would this make sense?
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Bruce
03-29-2002, 06:07 PM
So much to say on this. Where to start. First of all, a LOT of what turns us on in sex is from conditioning. Like Pavlov\'s famous dogs, if someone were to ring a little bell everytime you had an orgasm, it wouldn\'t be long before you and that little bell would be ready to pick out curtains together. images/icons/smile.gif
Now, since the smell of copulins (the real deal) is VERY powerfully in the air during sex, it wouldn\'t surprise me in the least if a homeopathic level sniff of coupulins served to trigger a fit of passion in not just any female, but a sexually experienced woman. Just like some men smell a bottle of Primal, think \"piss\" and throw the bottle against the wall rather than wear it, a lot of women for some reason have grown to feel that their own vaginal secretions are disgusting or that being turned on by such a smell indicates that they are homosexual. Once again, the need for sneaking the pheros in under the radar, but if in fact there is a significant/effective dose of cops in PI/W and as it seems it is undetectible with the human nose, then I think in the case of an sexually experienced woman you may be looking at a winner.
Bruce

**DONOTDELETE**
03-29-2002, 06:48 PM
So what is PI(w) like scent wise? Does it have a feminine fragrance, a musky aNOL odor, or what? Just curious....

sophie
03-29-2002, 09:21 PM
I am a female, been using PI(w) for a week now and to me it has absolutely no odor at all, but I feel great wearing it and have had amazing positive response from both males and females.

Paul canada
03-29-2002, 10:01 PM
Hey All:

I bought PI(w) from Bruce a few months back and it is amazing. I will go out on a limb and say that for all of us 30+ guys PI(w) is the best deal around. And I will thank Bruce Boyd again for providing such a superior and amazing customer service. Oh and also andro and PF worked amazing also.

I have been buying pheromones from Bruce for over a year and these products are excellent!!! SO don\'t be afraid buy some they will definately work for you!! If Bruce wasn\'t giving a guarentee I would guarentee them for sure!!!


Paul

**DONOTDELETE**
03-29-2002, 10:52 PM
Hey PI for women seems like a good deal for 11 mg of -nol for $59.95 (better than chem kit). However, is it an oil like men\'s PI? In that case, it\'d be tougher to mix than the chem kit -nol. Does anyone think there\'s enough copulins in to have an effect?

**DONOTDELETE**
03-29-2002, 10:55 PM
Hi,

I am female and have been reading this forum about a week now and I just got my first order of PI/w along with a complimentary bottle of vanilla oil and DI. I tried the PI/w on today (1 dab on each wrist and neck) and I thought that that wasn\'t enough (guess because it scentless). I really like the vanilla oil also. I will getting TE/w, PCC, and PPA soon since Bruce gave me 15% off (what a deal!). I will be experimenting with these combos, and btw I am going on job interviews and hope this gives me an \"advantage\"

I hope we can get more female feedback...

**DONOTDELETE**
03-30-2002, 07:35 AM
HI Truth:

I have PI/w and it is oil based. I guess I am one of those people who can smell PI/w... it smells a little musky. When I first received my order, I opened the bottle, smelled it and didn\'t like the scent at the beginning. But then, I kept coming back every 1/2 hour to smell it again. It was almost like aphrodisiac.

Anyhow, about the couplins, read my post re: could it be the pheros. I have been testing it for a week, and re applying everyday. I guess, I somehow OD because I felt really Paranoid and Worried about things. Wilde Oscar had a great imput on it. Check it out.

I decided not to use it last night since I probably still had it in me.

**DONOTDELETE**
03-30-2002, 07:41 AM
All in all, we know PI is supposed to attract women, yet we\'re finding out that PI/w seems to be working just as good if not better for attracting women. As puzzling as this is, and although there are theories about all this, the only true test would be field testing it.

Back in the day I used to have PI. This worked like a charm, and now when I\'m ready to re-order it, I\'m finding out PI/w might be better. Hence if anyone out there reading this thread has PI/w but is a man, let us know what results you\'re getting with it. Both PI\'s are expensive, I know PI works great, but I\'m very sceptical about PI/w working, hence I don\'t want to dish out that money especially considering the Canadian dollar is much less than the American...hmm...maybe if Bruce provided a tiny sample bottle of it...hey, worth a shot.

Whitehall
03-30-2002, 09:00 AM
I\'d like to add to Bruce\'s notion of smell conditioning for copulins.

Start with a question - why does watching other people get it on get us hot? The pornography industry is based on a human reaction - when we \"observe\" other people having sex, we get ready to join the fun. It\'s not in our interest to be left out of the reproductive activities, now, is it? For many of us, visually observing is the hot button; for others, the sounds of sex work. I\'ve known women who would turned on by the smell of their own vaginal secretions, presumably containing copulins. One dear friend would say \"Oh, I smell the smell of sex\" and really get hot. BTW, she had rather fragrant genitalia herself.

I\'d suggest that women may be more responsive sexually to copulins as a form of feedback. Women, in general, don\'t appreciate visual pornography as much as men. They do love the sounds and words of sex more too. Think \"romance novels.\" Perhaps female limbic systems respond to \"scent\" pornography more than men.

Maybe I\'ll try PI/w next too!

Teak
03-30-2002, 10:22 AM
Maybe they should add as much -nol found in their PI(w) into PI?

**DONOTDELETE**
03-30-2002, 02:07 PM
kakii, I think I skimmed your message in the other post about PI/w affecting you when you wear it. However, you\'re female, right? Has PI/w affected any male wearers in a positive or negative way?