Teak
03-28-2002, 12:47 PM
Just curious as to what people think of this pheromone additive (Hi-Octane +2 by Michael Vie/M.C. Marble, Co.), that I noticed elsewhere on the net. It is meant to contain both -none and -nol suspended in witch hazel, although the makers do not disclose how much of each.
I found it mentioned on the PI site showing a graph of how much -none competiting products have. Doesn\'t seem to have much -none according to the makers of PI, which I guess isn\'t such a bad thing if you are a younger user. But then the makers of PI are trying to push the fact PI has high levels of -none and don\'t look at -nol and -rone levels. I guess maybe they are aiming PI at the 25+ range (although don\'t state it) since the study cited on their site as to why -none is so important and worth comparing, used men aged 25-42. Which from what I have read on this forum is probably the age range that will benefit from products with high levels of -none, where as under 25s are better off using products with lesser amounts of -none combined with -nol and -rone. As younger people tend to produce more -none naturally as it is and OD\'ing on -none can have a negative effect towards the oppposite sex.
Having said that, I think I read somewhere (probably from the makers/distributors of Hi-Octane +2, but can\'t find it now), that they aren\'t convinced by the validity of those lab reports stating the amount of -none in the competiting products. Allegedly the supporting lab reports are fake and there is no such lab with that name, or at least the lab isn\'t as independent as the makers of PI would like people to believe. I think they were trying to say their product has more -none than the lab reports suggest. But that could just be the makers of Hi-Octane +2 trying to defend their product with less -none to the general public that assume more is better. Or maybe Hi-Octane +2 is a rubbish product and they didn\'t want to admit it, I don\'t know.
[ March 28, 2002: Message edited by: Teak ]
I found it mentioned on the PI site showing a graph of how much -none competiting products have. Doesn\'t seem to have much -none according to the makers of PI, which I guess isn\'t such a bad thing if you are a younger user. But then the makers of PI are trying to push the fact PI has high levels of -none and don\'t look at -nol and -rone levels. I guess maybe they are aiming PI at the 25+ range (although don\'t state it) since the study cited on their site as to why -none is so important and worth comparing, used men aged 25-42. Which from what I have read on this forum is probably the age range that will benefit from products with high levels of -none, where as under 25s are better off using products with lesser amounts of -none combined with -nol and -rone. As younger people tend to produce more -none naturally as it is and OD\'ing on -none can have a negative effect towards the oppposite sex.
Having said that, I think I read somewhere (probably from the makers/distributors of Hi-Octane +2, but can\'t find it now), that they aren\'t convinced by the validity of those lab reports stating the amount of -none in the competiting products. Allegedly the supporting lab reports are fake and there is no such lab with that name, or at least the lab isn\'t as independent as the makers of PI would like people to believe. I think they were trying to say their product has more -none than the lab reports suggest. But that could just be the makers of Hi-Octane +2 trying to defend their product with less -none to the general public that assume more is better. Or maybe Hi-Octane +2 is a rubbish product and they didn\'t want to admit it, I don\'t know.
[ March 28, 2002: Message edited by: Teak ]