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xvs

03-25-2002, 02:08 PM

Now that the chemistry set is available, I wonder if anyone has experience with or feedback about the effects noticed from the different pheromones: -none, -nol, -rone, etc.
The table at http://www.pitt.edu/AFShome/r/j/rjm/public/html/phero/pher_web_nov13_01.htm (\"http://www.pitt.edu/AFShome/r/j/rjm/public/html/phero/pher_web_nov13_01.htm\") shows the content of different products (although was this the result of chemical analysis, or just what the manufacturers say?), so I\'m wondering if anyone can relate experiences or information about the different phermones to observations as to how the products work and what they\'re supposed to contain.

Which pheros work the best, and what reactions to they give you?

Teak

03-26-2002, 03:50 AM

Yes I am also curious as to which ones do what. Arrr and found this thread which helps:

http://hit-central.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=000489 (\"http://hit-central.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=000489\")

[ March 26, 2002: Message edited by: Teak ]

Teak

04-09-2002, 08:16 AM

Even though the effects are stated in other threads and the abbreviations list (\"http://www.love-scent.com/reference/abbreviations.html\"), along with the whole issue that -none might be more effective at certain times of a woman\'s menstrual cycle (maybe even negative at certain times), just FYI I found this quote from an old study:

http://wwwpsy.uni-muenster.de/inst2/maiworm/pub2.htm (\"http://wwwpsy.uni-muenster.de/inst2/maiworm/pub2.htm\")
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The steroids androstenone and androstenol are often discussed in scientific literature as Potential human pheromones, whereby their function in oppostie sex sexual-eroticism is presumed (for the female as attraction and for the male as repellent - spacing pheromone, i.e. to mark territory and signal physical presence). The substances androstenone, androsterone, androstenol and a fatty acid mixture (copulin) as well as a range of Potential moderating variables are more carefully examined in a series of double-blind experiments. Androstenol, as well as androstenone and androsterone affect women\'s assessment of photographs of men. This effect could be proven for androsterone for the first time. The full scope of the effect of the researched substances is based on a more complex connection. Different concentrations of androstenone determine whether men will be positively or negatively perceived. The highest and lowest concentration of androstenone, which is found in male axillary secretions, have varying results. A woman\'s reproductive status (point in menstrual cycle, hormonal contraception) affects the full Potential of androstenone as well. The men, for example, are appraised more positively by those women who do not take hormonal contraceptives than by those who do. The solvent ethanol, till now the most widely used, seems to reduce the effects of androstenone, although the use of this solution has produced as good as no effects except when androstenone is dissolved in odourless vaseline oil. Partial results show that to some degree women\'s libido is also influenced by androstenone. According to tendency, the influences of androstenone on the sexual activity of women were found as well (however, this must be more thoroughly researched). Systematic influences of androstenone or androstenol could not be proven in the women\'s subjective mood assessment. The fatty acid mixture (copulin) and another similar substance (hydroxyphenylpropionicacid) influence the assessment of men by women to a considerable extent.
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http://wwwpsy.uni-muenster.de/inst2/maiworm/pub5.html (\"http://wwwpsy.uni-muenster.de/inst2/maiworm/pub5.html\")
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In experiment 1, it may be seen that at different periods in the menstrual cycle androsterone and androstenol had different effects. Contrary to expectations, these substances showed no effect during the middle period of the menstrual cycle, in which ovulation is possible. Rather, these effects are greatest during the first period of the menstrual cycle. At the same time, both pleasant and less pleasant effects may be observed in the final period of the cycle. The unpleasant effects are related to the ero-sexual sphere. In respect to other Attributes, such as friendliness, emotionality, and sensitivity, more pronounced responses may be noted.
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[ April 09, 2002: Message edited by: Teak ]

Teak

04-09-2002, 09:00 AM

Also FYI:

http://cep.jmu.edu/stolofml/Samples/Erica%20Leggette.doc (\"http://cep.jmu.edu/stolofml/Samples/Erica%20Leggette.doc\")
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Further studies on females using androstadienone found psychological and mood effects with positive increases in mood and a decrease in female discomfort and tension. Although this substance may not serve as a direct causal factor, it could allow for an increase in factors necessary for sexual attraction (Grosser, Monti-Bloch, Jennings-White, & Berliner, 2000; Jacob & McClintock, 2000).
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http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1687.50041 (\"http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1687.50041\")
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Most women who live with or near other women adjust their menstrual cycle timing to each other. A recent study at the University of Chicago by Martha McClintock exposed a group of women to a whiff of perspiration from other women. It caused their menstrual cycles to speed up or slow down depending on the time in the month the sweat was collected -- before, during or after ovulation. This was the first proof that people produce and respond to pheromones.
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http://www.harcourt.com/dictionary/def/5/4/9/0/549000.html (\"http://www.harcourt.com/dictionary/def/5/4/9/0/549000.html\")
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Androsterone (C19 H30 O2): a male sex hormone synthesized from progesterone and found in the urine and plasma of men and women; seven times weaker than testosterone.
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http://www.naturalconnections.com/Dhea.htm (\"http://www.naturalconnections.com/Dhea.htm\")
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DHEA, also known as \"the mother hormone\", is produced by the adrenal glands and is the most dominant hormone in the body. The body converts DHEA into whatever hormone it needs (i.e. estrogen, testosterone, progesterone, and coriconsterone) In both sexes, blood levels of DHEA peak at 20. Thereafter, the levels steadily decline throughout aging, more dramatically with child bearing and with menopause.
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According to http://www.pheromones.de/faq.html, (\"http://www.pheromones.de/faq.html,\") the following chemicals are related to -none:

10-Hydroxy-Delta-4,16-Androstadien-3-one
5 Alpha-Androst-16-en-3-one
Androsta-4,16-dien-3-one

where as the following are related to -nol:

5 Alpha-Androst-16-en-3-Alpha-ol
5 Alpha-Androst-16-en-3 Beta-ol
Androsta-4,16-dien-3 Alpha-ol
Androsta-4,16-dien-3 Beta-ol

[ April 09, 2002: Message edited by: Teak ]