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Goldcoastq
03-03-2011, 09:58 PM
Here's a
handy tip for mixing oil based products. Keep your old SOE bottles because the roll on is brilliant for getting
accurate and consistent doses. A mix I am trying at the moment is 20 drops PI/W and 10 drops A7. This makes 1.5 ml
and I add an equal amount of massage oil to make a total of 3 ml. This is enough to experiment but not wasteful if
it doesn't work. The massage oil is scented YlangYlang and lavender and covers very well. The resulting total
concentration is only slightly less than SOE and the doses can be a similar number of inches. Shake well each time
although it seems to stay mixed with no separation..
terry0400-40
03-04-2011, 03:56 PM
Here's a handy tip for mixing oil based products. Keep your old SOE bottles because the
roll on is brilliant for getting accurate and consistent doses. A mix I am trying at the moment is 20 drops PI/W and
10 drops A7. This makes 1.5 ml and I add an equal amount of massage oil to make a total of 3 ml. This is enough to
experiment but not wasteful if it doesn't work. The massage oil is scented YlangYlang and lavender and covers very
well. The resulting total concentration is only slightly less than SOE and the doses can be a similar number of
inches. Shake well each time although it seems to stay mixed with no
separation..It looks good I... the PI /w certainly contains quality
Androstenol, good luck with the testing of it.
this
could give me incentive to restock my A7
I had a buddy call me from Portugal and he at the moment is getting good
results with the WKM#1 mix
so it inspired me to use up
my last little remaining SOE to make up a small batch, which i did and i whacked on 5 drops which i found did work
remarkably well as i was in the company of several girls at the time and the interest i received was certainly over
the top.
I think i will try it at 4 dr today and go for a little prowl around in the
name of science.
I was told that it works if applied over a spray of cologne with another
spray on top.
Goldcoastq
03-04-2011, 10:13 PM
I couldn't find that mix in
the cookbook but a quick search found it, so for the benefit of others here tis,
WKM#1 mix
6 parts SOE/m
scented
3 parts NPA/m
1 part PI/m unscented
Total concentration is 0.42 with
.12 NONE
.24 NOL
.06 RONE
plus
the secret ingredient in npa.
This is interesting because again the concentration is fairly close to SOE alone
and I was not aware of this mix when I was evolving mine, which has similar components.
otomo
03-05-2011, 03:40 PM
It looks good I... the PI /w certainly contains quality Androstenol,
good luck with the testing of it.
this could give me
incentive to restock my A7
That sounds interesting so sorry for asking from a
most ignorant position:
what's PI/w?? Primal Instinct for women??
does that has Androstenol??
would it
make a good replacement for A314?
stuttgart-man
03-05-2011, 04:00 PM
That
sounds interesting so sorry for asking from a most ignorant position:
what's PI/w?? Primal Instinct for women??
does that has Androstenol??
would it make a good replacement for A314?
Correct! PI/w = Primal for
women
PI/w contains 11mg Androstenol/10ml and a little bit Copuline
Goldcoastq
03-05-2011, 07:31 PM
That
sounds interesting so sorry for asking from a most ignorant position:
what's PI/w?? Primal Instinct for
women??
does that has Androstenol??
would it make a good replacement for A314?
A314 is
predominately Androsterone I believe. So it is not the same stuff.
otomo
03-05-2011, 09:34 PM
A314 is
predominately Androsterone I believe. So it is not the same stuff.
Ah well. It's been ages since I
last read about A314 specially since it was discountinued from love scent. So I could be wrong about it, I still
have half a bottle and afraid to use after seeing it can go for a 100usd in other sites, but I remember it's
effects are definitely different from an androsterone product like WAGG.
Anyway I don't intend to argue about
that, instead, two other questions arise, is it possible then to use PI/w being a male?? and would it be a good idea
to combine it with PI/m??
terry0400-40
03-05-2011, 09:58 PM
That
sounds interesting so sorry for asking from a most ignorant position:
what's PI/w?? Primal Instinct for women??
does that has Androstenol??
would it make a good replacement for
A314?Yes A314 contains Androstenone, Androsterone, and another 7
pheromones in its formulation, i was ordering it in 15 ml size bottles from L-S and also from its manufacturers.
At the time i was ordering it was also sold in 10 ml size bottles with each
containing a pheromone weight of 6,667mcg /10 mL.
And as Goldcoastq says it does contain a good whack of Androsterone, even so
over the last few years its manufacturers have played around with alterations to its formula and also its fragrance
as Gegogi and other old timers would have knowledge to.
And who knows what forms of Androsterone/s ? are used in its formulation and
also the other pheromones but it was always my opinion that one drop did contain at least 4 mcg Androstenone because
the wearing of too many drops certainly did produce intimidation effects where as 1 dr or 2 dr created a goodly
amount of respect, i used around 3 dr which was magic ( for my age ) or 2 dr for an important
interveiw.
I have sometimes noticed similar effects when wearing Scent of Eros 5 dr
with 1 dr Alpha 7 , and also had some great hits with Alpha 7 x 1 dr + A314 x 2 dr yes excellent hits with it but
only if i was the one doing the approaching and starting the talk, as the combo did inspire respect and awe, yea
chics were mesmerised by it and would not leave.... but if not approached they would just
stare.....
Goldcoastq
03-05-2011, 10:17 PM
Ah well.
It's been ages since I last read about A314 specially since it was discountinued from love scent. So I could be
wrong about it, I still have half a bottle and afraid to use after seeing it can go for a 100usd in other sites, but
I remember it's effects are definitely different from an androsterone product like WAGG.
Anyway I don't
intend to argue about that, instead, two other questions arise, is it possible then to use PI/w being a male?? and
would it be a good idea to combine it with PI/m??
I would guess that WAGG could contain some RONE,
but I thought the actual ingredients were secret. The only other product I know of that contains mostly rone is
Instant Gentleman. I haven't tried either of these myself. Apart from that if you want a replacement for A314 I
would be heading to the Kits & Supplies section in the LS store to get the pure rone.
It would be a good idea to
combine PI/W (nol) with PI/M (none) to achieve your desired result. More nol and less none for chattiness with a
hint of sexual tension, or less nol and more none for lots of heat with just the edge taken off a little bit so
she's turned on but not too intimidated.
otomo
03-06-2011, 06:40 PM
@terry
Ah yes, that could be
it, indeed they have changed the formula around over the years.
Stil the effect as you so well put it:
"the
combo did inspire respect and awe, yea chics were mesmerised by it and would not leave.... but if not approached
they would just stare....."
that always made me think there was something else other than 'rone on it, from
somewhere I must have pulled the idea that it was due to 'nol and nothing else.
Also at two drops it barely
made an effect so I always used 5 (therefore I denied to myself the prescence of none because you know how easily it
is to OD on none) with the aforementioned results, the spark in the girl's eyes when staring at me just wouldn't
go, I came to use it just to get that unique stare from certain girls, it truly is/was an special product.
So
you'd say 5dr (drops?) of SOE plus 1 of A7 would get similar results??
@Goldcoastq
Well again I could be
mistaken as this was like 5 years ago but I could swear the standard WAGG was pure rone, then they came out with the
N version to add some sexual tension to the product.
I'm actually looking into moving from rone to oxy and A1,
but if PI/w contains so much concentration of nol it becomes a top in my book, being oil based PI/m lasts and lasts
and lasts for me, although it can be harsher when compared to A7 somehow it stands on it's own when used on
minuscle amounts.
I'm open to any further advise you guys care to share.
Goldcoastq
03-06-2011, 07:44 PM
I don't know what pure rone
smells like but I can say that WAGG has a definite pheromone smell but it is pleasantly sweet smelling, totally
unlike none, and now you've got me curious what actually is in WAGG.
So.......Terry, what do you think?
terry0400-40
03-09-2011, 02:17 AM
I
don't know what pure rone smells like but I can say that WAGG has a definite pheromone smell but it is pleasantly
sweet smelling, totally unlike none, and now you've got me curious what actually is in WAGG.
So.......Terry, what
do you think?Hi I it could have an abundance of
Androsterone in it some users have reported getting treated like wimps when wearing it, and others recon its a good
ice breaker, so maby it predominantly rone and nol.
I
have used it and to be honest i noticed little at all from it like others, but it seems to work to good effect for
some
I Have a bottle of rone in my box so will give it
a test smell seeing as i am on a juice fast and my sense of smell is improved.
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