View Full Version : Ugly Side of Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT)
HeartBroque
10-25-2010, 09:58 AM
First post and looking for direction. I'm coming from a different point of view than most of the
other posters, I only want to attract one particular woman. My wife! Married for 20 years, wife had complete
hysterectomy about 12 years ago. February this year rec'd most beautiful Valentines day card from here that
contained deep heart felt emotion of love. Four days later wife recieves new type HRT/ Testoternome and estradiol
pellets, supposedly good for 3-6 months. Let's just say these pellets recharged her system CONSIDERABLY! So much
I couldn't keep up. She asked a friend what about "daydreaming" that something in them was more attracting than
real life. April 23 ( about 60 days after pellets) She wants out of the marriage and cringes at the thought of us
spending together. Keep in mind, we have never fought like this before. Strong alpha-female charactoristics
kicking in as well as self-centeredness. Totaly out the norm! She is a 42 yo, white, 5"5', 122 lb well shaped
beauty who has the sex drive through the roof. I'm also on testosternome replacement therapy as I'm 9 years older
than her. She's started wearing more sensous/form fitting clothes to her clinic job and has become very flirty
with the male patients, and has started extensive texting sessions with one of the patients and daughters softball
coach. I know you think affair, however, very strong moral compass.
What can you recommend as have very little
money left over after her buying new clothes and kids?
I don't want to loose the love of my life, I love her
more now than when I asked her to marry me.
HornyMan
10-25-2010, 10:45 AM
First
post and looking for direction. I'm coming from a different point of view than most of the other posters, I only
want to attract one particular woman. My wife! Married for 20 years, wife had complete hysterectomy about 12 years
ago. February this year rec'd most beautiful Valentines day card from here that contained deep heart felt emotion
of love. Four days later wife recieves new type HRT/ Testoternome and estradiol pellets, supposedly good for 3-6
months. Let's just say these pellets recharged her system CONSIDERABLY! So much I couldn't keep up. She asked a
friend what about "daydreaming" that something in them was more attracting than real life. April 23 ( about 60 days
after pellets) She wants out of the marriage and cringes at the thought of us spending together. Keep in mind, we
have never fought like this before. Strong alpha-female charactoristics kicking in as well as self-centeredness.
Totaly out the norm! She is a 42 yo, white, 5"5', 122 lb well shaped beauty who has the sex drive through the
roof. I'm also on testosternome replacement therapy as I'm 9 years older than her. She's started wearing more
sensous/form fitting clothes to her clinic job and has become very flirty with the male patients, and has started
extensive texting sessions with one of the patients and daughters softball coach. I know you think affair, however,
very strong moral compass.
What can you recommend as have very little money left over after her buying new
clothes and kids?
I don't want to loose the love of my life, I love her more now than when I asked her to
marry me.
Why does she have to take those pills? Did the doctor force her to? You're
gonna have a hard time screwing like at 20 year old at mid forties and HRT I tried that and it had nasty side
effects like acne and can even cause cancer if used long term.
It sounds to me like she likes the new her.
You may want to consider using your tongue to satify her to orgasm if your penis can't keep up :cheers:
HM
HeartBroque
10-25-2010, 10:57 AM
These aren't pills,
pellets implanted in butt! They have made a world of difference in her ability to enjoy sex again. She's better
than at ANY other point in our relationship, just gotta find a way to keep her "desire" to stay at home and from
being poached from someone who still has there scent going on. There's an interesting read on dr. mercolas site, in
the search block type in "pheromones" , these hormones have changed the way my wife thinks of me. Hell wish I was
still in my forties, 52!
Tongue works well when she lets me, however, nothing like the real thing!
HornyMan
10-25-2010, 12:09 PM
You could always
try going to a men's sex clinic. they have injections you can put in your penis before sex that keeps it up and
hard for 45 -60 min stimulation or NOT!
HM
terry0400-40
10-25-2010, 11:03 PM
These aren't pills, pellets implanted in butt! They have made a world of difference in
her ability to enjoy sex again. She's better than at ANY other point in our relationship, just gotta find a way to
keep her "desire" to stay at home and from being poached from someone who still has there scent going on. There's
an interesting read on dr. mercolas site, in the search block type in "pheromones" , these hormones have changed the
way my wife thinks of me. Hell wish I was still in my forties, 52!
Tongue works well when she lets me, however,
nothing like the real thing!There are a good variety of ways and means of
you providing her with the physical fulfillment she requires so this side of the equation may be taken care of with
little worry or concern i am sure you can figre out something so no real drama's
here.
Now when it comes to pheromones you could always add some synthetic
pheromones to enhance your own natural pheromone signature so as to convey to her that you are a hot excited
dominant alpha male, yes pheromones can give this impression, just remember to act the part when you first apply a
good Androstenone pheromone product, this will help reinforce the impresions the woman receives from your pheromone
scent and it will work for you to leave a lasting impression upon her mind that you indeed are still the man, yes
her man.
Look after and be good to her also ask her
what she likes you can accomplish these things with out acting wimpy then all is good, have confidence and faith in
your self and above all just relax during these times of change and realize that all storms pass away and what
remains is the attitude you took during the times of apparent
crises.
Well go on and get yourself a small bottle of Alpha 7 scented, or some NPA
or Primal Instinct.
NPA is good and is designed to be diluted with your favourite cologne at the
ratio of around 1:5.
I personally use Primal Instinct, NPA, Alter Ego, Alpha7, and others not
often discussed on this forum, i dont use them all at once together but i will use one Androstenone product for
several days and then have a days break and then use another of my products this always keeps me fresh and exciting
and i am nearly 60 and my girl loves my pheromones as many times after sniffing up close my application points she
explodes with passion and it really takes little effort to satisfy her completly once the phero scent gets to the
part of her brain that controls the sex urge anything goes. :whip:
THE ALPHA MALE
10-25-2010, 11:15 PM
What Terry mentioned was
good.
I just would like to add that adding androstenone is either going to be great or really bad depending on
what type of man she is wanting. Since she is receiving testosterone(which is not needed for a women at high rates)
she will be a strong alpha and self centered individual. It comes with the hormone testosterone, also spreading the
seed so to speak will, in other words she now has the desire and intentions to cheat on you. I also recommend since
you are on TRT to make sure you have an aromatase inhibitor so that if estradiol levels rise to rapidly, you can
control it, and this will allow you to have a better since of well being. Trust me elevated estradiol is no fun.
Good chances are since she has a strong mind set in with the unnecessary synthetic testosterone, androstenone will
make things worse, at least high levels of it. I recommend trying a mix of androstenone and androsterone to see how
she responds. NPA is my recommendation of choice of androstenone products. Although A7 carries both androsteone and
androsterone. I wish you and your wife the best.
HeartBroque
10-26-2010, 02:55 PM
What Terry mentioned was good.
I just would like to add that adding androstenone is either going to
be great or really bad depending on what type of man she is wanting. Since she is receiving testosterone(which is
not needed for a women at high rates) she will be a strong alpha and self centered individual. It comes with the
hormone testosterone, also spreading the seed so to speak will, in other words she now has the desire and intentions
to cheat on you. I also recommend since you are on TRT to make sure you have an aromatase inhibitor so that if
estradiol levels rise to rapidly, you can control it, and this will allow you to have a better since of well being.
Trust me elevated estradiol is no fun. Good chances are since she has a strong mind set in with the unnecessary
synthetic testosterone, androstenone will make things worse, at least high levels of it. I recommend trying a mix of
androstenone and androsterone to see how she responds. NPA is my recommendation of choice of androstenone products.
Although A7 carries both androsteone and androsterone. I wish you and your wife the best.
Thank you
guys, yes my estrdioal has been running higher than what should, not exactly portraying the alpha-male qualities.
The last two post seem to grasp at the direction and point I'm at. Yes she is very self-centered now, totaly out
of character from the past few years. I've attempted to talk to her doc but seems to be siding more with her that
test values are in optimum ranges. However doc has only known her for 10 months verses my 21 years. Thanks for the
advice, now to decide what to order and use while I try to keep her from doing something we'll both regret.
Thanks,
THE ALPHA MALE
10-26-2010, 11:02 PM
Thank you guys, yes my estrdioal has been running higher than what should, not exactly
portraying the alpha-male qualities. The last two post seem to grasp at the direction and point I'm at. Yes she is
very self-centered now, totaly out of character from the past few years. I've attempted to talk to her doc but
seems to be siding more with her that test values are in optimum ranges. However doc has only known her for 10
months verses my 21 years. Thanks for the advice, now to decide what to order and use while I try to keep her from
doing something we'll both regret. Thanks,
If you know the time of the month she ovulates, that is when
you should use NPA, other than that Alpha 7 would suit you better in my opinion along reassurance in
yourself.:thumbsup:
HeartBroque
10-27-2010, 04:38 AM
If you know the time of the month she ovulates, that is when you should use NPA, other than that Alpha 7
would suit you better in my opinion along reassurance in yourself.:thumbsup:
Unfortunately with a complete
hysterectomy (SP?) no ovulation or her natural hormones produced. You still have given directions I think I can use
as her current hormone levels remind me of before when she was ovulating , volumptious, and aroused.
Thanks
THE ALPHA MALE
10-27-2010, 11:22 PM
Unfortunately with a complete hysterectomy (SP?) no ovulation or her natural hormones
produced. You still have given directions I think I can use as her current hormone levels remind me of before when
she was ovulating , volumptious, and aroused.
Thanks
If she is in the arousal state, androstenone
should work well, unfortunately women are a tad complex. She might feel your sexual dominance as a threat and it may
cause further issues, hopefully that is not the case.:cheers:
HeartBroque
10-28-2010, 07:42 AM
NPA and A7 on just ordered.
Now to learn hers/mine dosing!
TIA
Feeling some moral reluctance in ordering product; however, mones got me
in this mess maybe mones can help get me out!
HornyMan
10-28-2010, 08:11 AM
NPA and A7 on just ordered. Now to learn hers/mine dosing!
TIA
Feeling
some moral reluctance in ordering product; however, mones got me in this mess maybe mones can help get me
out!
I don't quite understand the logic here. NPA A7 will only make her more attracted to you but
they may not make you get it up any more times with her.
if she's already getting it from you she's
already attracted. It sounds to me like a libido issue.
Perhaps you should have a talk with her about how
you feel about her flirting with other guys.
NPA may make her more horny for you or bitch at you. In either
case how is that supposed to help you get it up more for her?
A7 is a dominant vibe. You may be able to
control her more because of the rone.
Do you hit the gym? Are you in good shape? Do you take supplements
for libido?
You mention HRT -- i tried that and I'm glad I stopped. I had horrible acne and it can cause
cancer long term.
Sometimes if you flirt with other women she may feel like she's going to lose you and try
harder to please you and forget her fantasies. if done wrong this can backfire on you
too.
:cheers:
HM
HeartBroque
10-28-2010, 01:27 PM
I
don't quite understand the logic here. NPA A7 will only make her more attracted to you but they may not make you
get it up any more times with her.
That's the thing, She's lost the attraction/Love! Virge of
splitting up! Would have already happened if not for children. Dr. implanted T and E, her lab values come back in
the optimum range but have got her libido so juiced up she can't think straight. Apparently high T promotes,
fantisizing/daydreaming, real life/(Me) can't compare, now bossy, pushy, agressive, quick tempered, heated times
between children, very self-centered.
if she's already getting it from you she's already attracted
(DEAD TO ME, LOVE DIED). It sounds to me like a libido issue.
Perhaps you should have a talk
with her about how you feel about her flirting with other guys.
NPA may make her more horny for you or bitch at
you. In either case how is that supposed to help you get it up more for her?
A7 is a dominant vibe. You may be
able to control her more because of the rone.
Do you hit the gym? Are you in good shape? Do you take supplements
for libido? Have joined gym and she has made positive comments to results; however, if my libido was
through the roof, I'd still be in the mostly current state, "Cut-off!"
You mention HRT -- i tried that
and I'm glad I stopped. I had horrible acne and it can cause cancer long term.
Sometimes if you flirt with
other women she may feel like she's going to lose you and try harder to please you and forget her fantasies
(I WISH!). if done wrong this can backfire on you too. She has pretty well written me
and our marriage off.
:cheers:
HM
My responses are in "Red"
terry0400-40
10-28-2010, 07:40 PM
My responses are in "Red"You have worked
hard at this, now live each day as it comes, do whatever you can then let it be, enjoy that which is good and be
thankfull for what you have.
We sometimes resist
the conditions that fate has given us and with this resistance fate gives us even more of the same up until sutch
time as we accept and with acceptance comes that which is necessary for our continued growth wellbeing and
peace.
THE ALPHA MALE
10-28-2010, 10:30 PM
Based on what you have
told me these pheromones will send a message but if she is set on her ways, it may not change the result. There is
nothing wrong with morals, just realize that if you are trying to keep your marriage alive and she is not, then you
should not beat yourself over it. Not sure what your beliefs are, but I am a believer of God, and I know that God
made us to use both PRIMAL and rational instincts, due to the suppressive nature of society; people fail to
understand that.
HeartBroque
10-29-2010, 06:58 AM
Based on what you have told me these pheromones will send a message but if she is set on her ways, it
may not change the result. There is nothing wrong with morals, just realize that if you are trying to keep your
marriage alive and she is not, then you should not beat yourself over it. Not sure what your beliefs are, but I am a
believer of God, and I know that God made us to use both PRIMAL and rational instincts, due to the suppressive
nature of society; people fail to understand that.
Both of us are believers, I've told her this is just
a "Test" something we are going through, indicating there is an end. My God already knows the outcome and what my
wife is wanting does not pass the test of His desires.
I am embarassed at our behavior and the message being
sent to our children.
HeartBroque
10-29-2010, 07:05 AM
You have worked hard at this, now live each day as
it comes, do whatever you can then let it be, enjoy that which is good and be thankfully for what you have.
We sometimes resist the conditions that fate has
given us and with this resistance fate gives us even more of the same up until such time as we accept and with
acceptance comes that which is necessary for our continued growth wellbeing and
peace.
Very profound and well versed, but I feel as though we are part of a bigger
picture and we are going through this to help somebody else in the future, all things perceived as problems and
setbacks have served to make her better in the current place in life. Had these events not happened (w/me) she
would not be at this place in life, of helping others with their hormones.
THE ALPHA MALE
10-29-2010, 10:13 PM
Both of us are believers, I've told her this is just a "Test" something we are going
through, indicating there is an end. My God already knows the outcome and what my wife is wanting does not pass the
test of His desires.
I am embarassed at our behavior and the message being sent to our children.
No
need to be embarrassed since no one is perfect, if anything this educational for your children. They will learn what
to and not to do in a relationship, you should advise them of your mistakes, that is what I would do in that
situation.
HeartBroque
11-03-2010, 06:07 AM
If she is in the arousal state, androstenone should work well, unfortunately women are a tad complex.
She might feel your sexual dominance as a threat and it may cause further issues, hopefully that is not the
case.:cheers:
It was either the comment I made to her folks last week or the Alpha-7 (ONE DROP neck
rear) ..... she slept in the spare bedroom...
Should have picked up some liquid trust, marriage therapy in a
bottle as I read on another site.
Still have NPA to try, any suggestions?
THE ALPHA MALE
11-04-2010, 12:09 AM
It was either the comment I made to her folks last week or the Alpha-7 (ONE DROP neck
rear) ..... she slept in the spare bedroom...
Should have picked up some liquid trust, marriage therapy in a
bottle as I read on another site.
Still have NPA to try, any suggestions?
NPA does have a secret
ingredient, and its THE ONLY none product, that I can lightly (1 dab) dose and not have severe ghost reactions. I
have girls run and cry for help when wearing none products. Liquid trust does not last long because of the air's
effect on the molecules of oxycotin, it will only last 30 minutes. You could also try using some WAGG with the NPA,
since WAGG contains Nol which makes you appear younger and easier to talk to.
What were reactions throughout the
day when you wore A7?
HeartBroque
11-04-2010, 06:02 AM
Noticed NO effect, on
anybody. Even at the mall let the lady at the perfume counter smell, said it smelled good, however, no what I would
call a hit.
Get a hair cut in a bit, try another time.
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