View Full Version : Chikara & NPA or Chikara & Alpha 7 ?
Le Male
06-02-2010, 04:31 AM
Which is the best combo ? I know Chikara is good because A few years ago got some sample gels and
that was the only one that I got a hit with.
The sister inlaw always flirts with me I hoping that using one of
these combo's I get something :)
I know this is wrong but...
HornyMan
06-02-2010, 04:54 AM
Tell us a little
bit more about yourself, like your age, build, personality, places you would like to try out your mones
etc.
For me personally, OD issues are becoming a factor at even 40 years of age even though they weren't a
few years back.
I'm not inclined to try either combination (chikara/npa or chikara/a7) for fear of OD'ing.
If you read my current daily log you'll notice I od on Chikara even after a pheromone break if I use 2 sprays by
itself. I can only imagine what adding a strong none mix would do at this point.
However, I am curious as to
people's experience as to what Chikara/A7 does to women?
Long ago when I mixed Chikara /NPA I found a
caucasion woman I used to just chat up before (she was a skinny 10/10 european model type) became so sexually
aggressive in an inappropriate place that I thought she was going to sexually attack me in public. While I was
looking forward to an advance I would wonder what her co-workers and her customers who were all there at the time
would think of such lude behavior! She looked like she was under a spell and on a mission. I had another 10/10
woman (he co-worker) challenge her by coming on so strong to me she tried to follow me everywhere and throw herself
at me, flirting with me at every chance and even in front of my SO. They were clearly competing for me and looking
desparate. I was with my SO that day o.w. I would have taken some action :)
Yet I'm sure the people
around were wondering what I had done to these women to make them act that way.. they probably would never guess
women would act this way with someone they hadn't been involved with... haha they'll never figure it out it was
the mones causing this reaction.
If I was in a more appropriate place without my SO, like a bar and this
happened I would have capitalized on the situation and gotten some action as these two were heated up.... :) The
best things always happen to me when my SO is around... go figure....
HM
Le Male
06-02-2010, 10:31 AM
ok just turned 40 but look alot
younger due to my slim build, I am quite shy until I have had a drink, main place would be pubs/clubs. Don't want
to use it every day. And yes my sister inlaw used to flirt with me all the time but mainly in front of other people
(maybe just a pr**k tease) but if I could just get a kiss off her that would be anough. The other week I went
clubbing I was on the dance floor and the girl had her back to me, when she immediately danced backwould to my front
like we were a pair of magnets, she kept doing it. What a great buzz many other lads tried to move in but shae
pushed them away. I think what would have happened if I was wearing mones?
HornyMan
06-02-2010, 12:56 PM
If you're older
and have a slim build and want to work the clubs you can't go wrong with a heavy none product or mix.
Best
none products for those 40+ are:
Edge ( start small work up)
NPA
A7
All can do wonders. Sometimes
one needs softeners like SOE in the mix especially in your naturally shy.
You will have to experiment to
find what works best for you, and in what dosages, and in what environments.
Good luck!
You can do a
search on these products. Lots of information is available already in the forum. Take a look at my log file as well
"Horny Man's logs" as I am experimenting with many of these same products and posting my experiences.
HM
Thomas Magnum
06-02-2010, 01:58 PM
Which is the best combo ? I know Chikara is good because A few years ago got some sample gels and
that was the only one that I got a hit with.
The sister inlaw always flirts with me I hoping that using
one of these combo's I get something :)
I know this is wrong but...
Be careful when using
NPA don't use more than one small dab and if that doesn't work well for you add a second dab. You certainly don't
want to overdose and have women avoiding you. Also, A Scent Of Eros may not be a good choice because it's better
suited for younger guys in their twenties/early thirtys. I'd suggest using Chikara
seeing as though you seemed to
have luck with the gel packs. \o/
HornyMan
06-02-2010, 02:42 PM
How do you guys get
those animations to pop up inside your messages. I can only do A smile by places a colon followed by a round
bracket which makes this: :)
Le Male
06-02-2010, 03:22 PM
Thanks for your replies so
Chikara & Alpha 7 sounds a good combo?
Thomas Magnum
06-02-2010, 04:24 PM
How do you guys get those animations to pop up inside your messages. I can only do A smile
by places a colon followed by a round bracket which makes this: :) It's easy to do. When you're finished
with the last sentence of your post just move your cursor past that sentence (after the period) and click on one of
the icons (funny faces). The icon should appear where your cursor is. \o/
idesign
06-02-2010, 05:54 PM
Scent Of Eros may not be a good choice because it's better suited for younger guys in their twenties/early thirtys.
SoE is perfectly suited for older guys as well as younger ones. I'm over 50 and use it with
success.
The difference between SoE and C7 is that SoE is a pure social Mone (Rol heavy)while C7 contains 7
different Mones including a dash of None and Rone.
The difference is more than subtle, but any guy looking for
a social product, or one that buffers None exceptionally well, can use SoE.
HornyMan
06-02-2010, 06:10 PM
SOE
suits me as well. I use it in all my mixes, and I'm 40. I see it as a key player to "relax" me when combined with
the heavy hitters. O.w. I come across as too tense.
Thomas Magnum
06-02-2010, 07:05 PM
SoE
is perfectly suited for older guys as well as younger ones. I'm over 50 and use it with success.
The difference
between SoE and C7 is that SoE is a pure social Mone (Rol heavy)while C7 contains 7 different Mones including a dash
of None and Rone.
The difference is more than subtle, but any guy looking for a social product, or one that
buffers None exceptionally well, can use SoE. Well, I used SOE and I'm in my mid fifties and I wasn't
impressed with it. I've read reviews on other sites that mention SOE is best suited for younger men. If it worked
well for an older guy like yourself that's fine but what works for one person may not work for another. If he wants
to try SOE that's up to him. The guy mentioned he had luck with Chikara in the past so why not stick with it?
\o/
idesign
06-03-2010, 06:07 AM
what works for one person may not work for another.
Exactly, that's why I don't like seeing overly
general remarks like "SoE is best suited for young people", which clearly is not true. How could such a comment
even be supported? Certainly not from a thorough reading of user experiences.
Le Male: C7/A7 is a GREAT combo.
Think of C7 as your "base", and tweak it with A7, starting with one drop. Judge its merits and then try NPA, with
the same base but only a tiny amount of NPA to start.
Thomas Magnum
06-03-2010, 08:19 AM
Exactly, that's why I don't like seeing overly general remarks like "SoE is best suited for
young people", which clearly is not true. How could such a comment even be supported? Certainly not from a thorough
reading of user experiences.
Le Male: C7/A7 is a GREAT combo. Think of C7 as your "base", and tweak it with A7,
starting with one drop. Judge its merits and then try NPA, with the same base but only a tiny amount of NPA to
start. You have your opinions and I have mine. Quite frankly I don't know why your getting all bent out of
shape over this whole thing. There's more to life than pheromones. Lighten up! \o/
terry0400-40
06-03-2010, 08:36 AM
Im 58 and SOE works for me and has done so for many years past, it is a very
workable universal formula and can not be restricted to any age group.
In general younger guys on average produce sufficient to maximum natural
levels of Androstenone which makes SOE a very suitable and noticable softener.
For those of us who are older and therefore may
require Androstenone replacement then SOE also makes an excellent softener especially where Androstenone volume
applications have not been correctly calculated.
idesign
06-03-2010, 08:46 AM
Not getting bent out of shape,
just stating my opinion and why its my opinion.
Its just that lots of newbies read these forums and if some guy
over 40, 50 or whatever, reads something like that he could miss out on what's likely to be a great product for
him.
No harm no foul.
HornyMan
06-03-2010, 08:58 AM
Hey
Terry
As you (or others) may have read in my hornyman logs reports Chikara has produced less than desired
results for me lately. I've gotten into verbal fights with SO after many months of not arguing!, I've gotten no
looks from people I literally stand right beside , and also a weirdo stalking me (guy) at the library who looked
like he was stoned.
However, before I return it I was curious how SOE/CHIKARA/A7 turned out for you? Maybe
the extra none and respect vibe will make gentlemen's out of the macho dudes, and will also scare off the weird
ones. Also I'm wondering whether 20-30 something women who respond to chikara will like a fatherly mones signature
(up rone with the A7) and also a man 40 years old. I've always liked SOE in there to relax me.
terry0400-40
06-03-2010, 09:07 AM
You have your opinions and I have mine. Quite frankly I don't know why your getting all bent out of
shape over this whole thing.
There's more to life than pheromones. Lighten up!
\o/Sure there may be more to life than pheromones but this is a
pheromone forum and all that has transpired here is that you have received correction and advice to an incorrect
statement you have made concerning the use SOE, it is ok to express an opinion but it is also ok for others to
comment on the opinions expressed on the forum is it not..........
Thomas i appreciate your forum posts and great style, so do not take a
little correction personally, it has happened to me often and its no real drama.. cheers. :)
terry0400-40
06-03-2010, 09:26 AM
Hey
Terry
As you (or others) may have read in my hornyman logs reports Chikara has produced less than desired
results for me lately. I've gotten into verbal fights with SO after many months of not arguing!, I've gotten no
looks from people I literally stand right beside , and also a weirdo stalking me (guy) at the library who looked
like he was stoned.
However, before I return it I was curious how SOE/CHIKARA/A7 turned out for you? Maybe the
extra none and respect vibe will make gentlemen's out of the macho dudes, and will also scare off the weird ones.
Also I'm wondering whether 20-30 something women who respond to chikara will like a fatherly mones signature (up
rone with the A7) and also a man 40 years old. I've always liked SOE in there to relax
me.Well to be honest Chikara has done nothing at all for me, i have used
up a full bottle and have bent over backwards trying to get it to work alone and also in mixes and the closest thing
i ever got to a hit is when i used it once and was completly ignored by even my good friends, i would like to say
something even remotely positive about C7 but for the life of me this juice has done
nothing.
There was a time when forum members were trying
to swap their Chikara gels for SOE.
I have nothing
against Chikara and i have noticed some good success stories regarding its pleasant fragrance ect.
HornyMan
06-03-2010, 12:50 PM
Thanks for your
honesty on the product Terry.
However, I think I am going to give Chikara a little more fairplay before I
think of returning it back. An extra week or two won't hurt me. If it still doesn't pan out after all that
testing then its time to send it back.
As a standlone or mixed with SOE I know its not working out for me.
But with added drop of A7 or low doses of NPA, in the right environments it might just surprise me.
If not ,
no loss, Tammy and Bruce are great and have told me they will refund the product if I choose to return
it.
HM
terry0400-40
06-03-2010, 02:49 PM
Thanks for your honesty on the product Terry.
However, I think I am going to give
Chikara a little more fairplay before I think of returning it back. An extra week or two won't hurt me. If it still
doesn't pan out after all that testing then its time to send it back.
As a standlone or mixed with SOE I know
its not working out for me. But
with added drop of A7 or low doses of NPA, in the right environments it might
just surprise me.
If not , no loss, Tammy and Bruce are great and have told me they will refund the
product if I choose to return it.
HMI also tried it with a little
added Androstenone at different times with NPA, PI, and A7 and still didn't achieve lift
off.
I like to order forum members used/returned SOE
i have kept my eyes open but to no avail as there has been no returns for over a year and i am nearly run out,
:sick:
yesterday i did notice some Chikara in that section at $25 thats good value
for anyone who uses it.
Ok HM good testing, i will
continue to enjoy your excellent posts :cheers:
dancarr17
12-26-2010, 07:29 PM
Merry Christmas Folks!
I'll be 42 next month but I look 25ish. I'm short 5"6" of muscular build
and I've been told I'm good looking (especially with for my age). I currently use NPA with my BOD Man spray and
I've been getting alot of looks (more than usual). I'm a sales associate at a retail store and I do notice that
the female co-workers do tend to talk to me more and I've even caught them smiling at me from a distance
(Especially this Asian girl) and there's one who almost feels that she's following me around the store and always
making a silly comment at me. I just ordered the Chikara gels and I'm wondering what should I expect. I must say
that when I do use NPA w/ BOD Man, I do feel a little more aggressive and I also get an almost "crash" feel
afterwards. Does it sounds like I'm ODing?
HornyMan
12-27-2010, 02:05 AM
I've been usngn chikara with
great success lately. I also notice that when using edge/npa a feeling of tiredness and zonked out (almost like a
crash like someone else described) overcomes me. I feel exhausted, tuned out etc.
But when it hits it
hits.
I also notice more INITiAL attraction from blacks and latinas. When mixed with SOE I notice the asians
pick up on me quickly initially. The only time other nationalities hit on me with npa is if I've softened them up
with chikara or SOE standalone first and talked to them, and then later on hit them with the npa juice. I love
it.... :)
I've tried applying to clothes with no success.
I've found edge gel packs make me horny
like crazy but have the same tuning out , exhausting effects.
NPA doesn't make me horny but does have an
effect on others.
I'm interested in primarily banging white chicks or spanish chicks but find I can't lure
them in with NPA directly as all the black women are drawn to me first.
This is why I'm wondering if NPA is
my ticket when I get a girl ALONE.
Also I noticed less tuning out with NPA. Perhaps mixed with cologne I
inhale less cologne? I may be overdosing on cologne giving me a drunk feeling when I spray it independently of
NPA.
I'm 41 find I can't wear edge/npa around family.
Hey before I invest in buying anothe bottle of
NPA to mix can someone recommend how I can used my unscented edge bottle to do the same mix with cologne as
NPA?
I want to use my EDGE bottle to get the same 1:5 ratio (drops of npa to cologne) instead of wasting
money right now since I already have a full bottle of edge. Any idea how I can mix it in an atomizer and get the
same effect as npa spiked with cologne?
:cheers:
HM
Goldcoastq
12-27-2010, 05:07 AM
QUOTE [The only time other
nationalities hit on me with npa is if I've softened them up with chikara or SOE standalone first and talked to
them, and then later on hit them with the npa juice. ]
I think this is a good way to proceed. Soften them up at
first then ramp up the none later. This should parallel the way her emotions are progressing naturally. When you say
later on do you mean during the same evening or next time you meet up? Edge gel or wipes is the closest to a none
only product you could conveniently apply later. I have been invited to a new years eve party with unattached women
so this will be my test ground. I'll probably use SOE plus A1 plus LT, and only apply edge later if I get some good
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