View Full Version : Has NPA changed or me?
Jambat Prime
04-21-2010, 09:39 PM
I'm in a
situation now where I'm currently going out quite often. So instead of buying a ton of mones and testing them, I
stuck with JB#1 which has worked for years when I've worn it. Now that I'm going out more often it's like JB#1
just stopped working. LOL. Infact I've had more luck without wearing it.
I used to do one spray of JB#1 (two
max) and that was all I needed. Now it seems that I OD easy (I'm assuming OD). I've gotten older (37 now) so I'm
guessing my body has changed. But it's weird because I've never seen anything else work. AE, RM don't work, takes
too much APC by itself and TE seems to be only good for getting respect from men, but I want hits from chicks. WTF?
LOL. :frustrate
-The Bat
Gegogi
04-25-2010, 02:03 AM
Try more friendly moans like
androstenol and TAA. Also, androsterone products are less in your face than androstenone but still very masculine. I
like an A314 and SOE combo for general use. TE and NPA are more for horndoggin' and can make you come off as a dick
if your persona is the least bit aggressive or loud.
As A314 seems to be either in short
supply or scented in a way one may not like I'm thinking trying A-1 and SoE combos...
Though Chikara seems to
do me pretty well too. Not sure why, but the spray version works better than the gels.
Gegogi
04-25-2010, 03:17 PM
I loved the old "classic" A314
that used to be sold at LS. Wish I stocked up before it went south. The newer scents are either headshop city or
essence of rino ass. However they're not that strong and cover with a good cologne so what the frick.
tounge
04-25-2010, 07:49 PM
I loved the
old "classic" A314 that used to be sold at LS. Wish I stocked up before it went south. The newer scents are either
headshop city or essence of rino ass. However they're not that strong and cover with a good cologne so what the
frick.
Yes, but do the newer versions work as well as the original version? That is what has always
pissed me off about Mike. A314 and IFM were terrific products as originally created. Well enough needs to be left
alone. Going off on all different tangents to suck in more money out of horn dogs pockets in the long run will
defeat the purpose.
I'm as well versed on Pheromones as anyone and not only is less more but just a few basic
products are all that is required. Too often the man that constantly feels he can improve on nature invites
failure.
idesign
04-26-2010, 05:16 AM
not only
is less more but just a few basic products are all that is required. Too often the man that constantly feels he can
improve on nature invites failure.
Agreed. Outside of some basic formulations of the "Big 3", and a
couple of secondary -Mones, what on earth does a user need? Just those are enough to keep one busy for for years.
Maybe by then we'll have a real (scientific) breakthrough, and have a new molecule to play with.
Everything
else is pure marketing, to the end stated in tounge's post.
Gegogi
04-27-2010, 01:21 AM
A new moan molecule is not
necessarily pure marketing. I've certainly enjoyed more than the "holy trinity," albeit they form the basis of many
of my mixes. TAA, TAH, androstanone, A1 and cops certainly afforded nice tweaks to old faithful. Some were just
weird--TAF--and made me overly sensitive to sound and smell. I could detected unpleasant butt breath and unwashed
pussy from 4 or 5 feet out. Normally I need to get up tight to notice. It was very bad for ensemble rehearsals as I
became unusually anal about pitch.
A1 is more than a secondary moan. It's a major molecule and a friggen
lifesaver if you live with a PMA woman. Dad burn miracle worker.
With that said, I have dozens of single molecule
experimental mones (P series) I haven't a clue what they do. Many smell like sweaty feet. No marketing. They're
test materials and most disappear into the mists. They are a few gems but what a tease. Once your little bottle is
dry you can't buy it again.
I have been enjoying some of the test variants of A314 (MX series). Most are a
little more polite, social or sexual than the old classic (RIP).
tounge
04-27-2010, 10:38 AM
Naw, still mostly marketing. You go
to happy hour, with a little taa, npa, A-1,tkk, IS, putative a&c and Soe. You have a good night, now what worked.
Now of course I'm slightly exaggerating, but the point is the great majority of folk only need to supplement what
they may be deficient in. The rest will be waste. And to not keep a product that is efficient for most users is bad
business in the long run.
Gegogi
04-27-2010, 05:26 PM
A lot of users have complained
about the repelling and standoffish effects of earlier variants of A314. Not everybody can wear it, but they want
to. So by softening it with buffers and steering moans they can sell a A314 even a badass can wear to a baby shower.
Personally I found straight classic A314 a bit too much in your face but perfect with nols and or TAA based
supplements. However many users want a simple all-in-one dosed product, hence all the MX variants of A314 and
endless tweaking of the commercial version.
idesign
04-28-2010, 06:30 AM
By secondary I meant anything
other than the Big3. Agree that A1 is a major, but I'll never use it as much as the others, and I expect a small
percentage of users even own it.
The simple solution to the A314 problem (if there was one) would have been to
leave the proven product alone and come out with a "Lite" version for the matching-tie-and-handkerchief shopper.
Throwing dozens of mixed products with as many cute names out on the market is confusing at best, and pointless
to a serious user, IMHO. They do nothing to help users understand what's going on and advance their chances of
success. I suppose they do achieve marketing goals. :)
The single molecule experimental stuff is different.
Too bad demand doesn't drive more production. A large anecdotal knowledge base could push out a couple of real
winners, like Gegogi mentioned.
What do you guys think is the percentage of users out there who have the time,
money and interest to experiment with, say, 10 single molecules? I assume it would be worth the effort to those so
inclined.
idesign
04-29-2010, 09:45 PM
JB Prime, now that we've
sufficiently hijacked your thread, have you thought of A7? Its eminently tweakable, just add your preferred dosage
of SoE or C7. If its a special moment you could add A1 to the mix. Works wonders.
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