what to buy?? need help with that =X

[Lacosteboy]

hello ppl.. well, i really need help with mones..
i havent tried yet but i really want it!

well..

im gonna tell someting about my personality and how i look likes :)

well,im 20, caucasian, 5´9,

black eyes (not brown, deffinitely BLACK XD), dark hair.
i do BJJ/MMA 3 times/week and i work out almost everyday.

(im from portugal)

im a student, and im looking for girls around 18-22


well, im gonna speak alil bit

about my personality

im shy with ppl that i dunno (especially girls).

i dont really flirt with girls in

night clubs or anything.. cuz i dont really like to act like a PLAYER, im more.... um... lets see... a good boy

xD... i dont really like havin sex with girls that im not goin out.. if you know what im saying... im not self

confident.... thats the truth.. im really negative with girls.. i think they wont like me and yeah...

well.. i

didnt have many gfs in my life.. and i think mones will help me to be more social and have more respect (i already

have, but a lil bit more can help me alot xD)


im looking for something really sexual.. to make girls get

crazy when they see me.. like.. get hypnotized xD HAHA.


Thanks for your answers...

LacosteBoy

[Lacosteboy]

ohh wheres anybody?

[thecaptain]

Hold on a second. this guy

writes a brutally honest account/into of what he needs and who he is and 45 people view him but DONT help him out.

how shameful. Buddy,you need to type in google 'do pheromones work' and look at a site by a guy named kyle.honest

stuff and he uses the mones sold on here. as for the 45 who didnt reply,bat humbug on you all!

[Rbt]

I don't do clubs and the like, and

I'm well beyond your age so I lack both experience with clubs and current experience with youth.

However: You

may want to try some of the "social" pheromones like SoE to get conversation going and get people talking. That is

usually a good step. Get them interested.

Given your body type and all, from what I am guessing you may not

need any help in the "sexual" pheromone aspect. You may already be producing enough natural pheromonee. If you

wanted to try something I'd only go with a basic product like Chikara or maybe Alter Ego (start with small doses

and work up over a period of weeks).

What may be just as important for you is to practice your social skills.

Women are going to *see* you first so dress well without overdressing, probably *hear* you next so practice your

conversation skills. *Smelling* you, and your pheromones, will be one of the LAST things they will do.

Just

some quick thoughts.

[zgame]

i

dont really flirt with girls in night clubs or anything.. cuz i dont really like to act like a PLAYER, im more....

um... lets see... a good boy xD... i dont really like havin sex with girls that im not goin out.. if you know what

im saying... im not self confident.... thats the truth.. im really negative with girls.. i think they wont like me

and yeah...
...
im looking for something really sexual.. to make girls get crazy when they see me.. like.. get

hypnotized xD HAHA.

Thanks for your answers...
LacosteBoy

i'm 21 and also student,black

eyes,black hair
your thoughts are almost identical as mine
i know what you are saying,:LOL:
i think that

you can read my topic here
http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19910
and buy that

thing i will buy tomorrow:cheers:

"Edge gel packs for men(7) = 9.95
SOE gel packs for men(10)

=9.95
Chikara gel packs for men(10)=9.95
+
Beginner Special for Men
((24 ml The Edge from LaCroy

Chemical;
7.5 ml Super Primal fragrance
10 ml pocket atomizer
1.5 ml Scent of Eros gel sample

packet))=$24.98"

if you have more money you can try everything:angel:
personally for me i want to see if

they work first
and if thay do then i'll buy more:thumbsup:
but don't forget you think that mones make

girls crazy...NO!
thay just give more attention to you and make you
a little bit more atractive if you can

talk nice with girls
and if you look nice for them
but if you are rude and just spay mones on

yourself
girls will be watching you but thay
almost never talk first and nothing happens! :trout:

[Lacosteboy]

yah, i was thinkin about TE

+ SOE xD.. TE = sexual
soe= social ...
but i dunno how should i cover that =X

[Lacosteboy]

I don't

do clubs and the like, and I'm well beyond your age so I lack both experience with clubs and current experience

with youth.

However: You may want to try some of the "social" pheromones like SoE to get conversation going and

get people talking. That is usually a good step. Get them interested.

Given your body type and all, from what I

am guessing you may not need any help in the "sexual" pheromone aspect. You may already be producing enough natural

pheromonee. If you wanted to try something I'd only go with a basic product like Chikara or maybe Alter Ego (start

with small doses and work up over a period of weeks).

What may be just as important for you is to practice your

social skills. Women are going to *see* you first so dress well without overdressing, probably *hear* you next so

practice your conversation skills. *Smelling* you, and your pheromones, will be one of the LAST things they will do.



Just some quick thoughts.
soe + NPa is a good combo?

[terry0400-40]

Yes SOE and NPA is a great combo and excellent results can certainly be obtained

when mix ratios correctly compliment the user/s.

[terry0400-40]

soe + NPa is a good combo?I agree with Rbt

and i also say that SOE is a good product, and may be used alone by a 20 year old with good

results.
Also the NPA component may well be unnecessary

for a 20 yr old and if you are going to experiment with NPA which is designed to be used diluted then just better be

carefull and start out with the smallest dab ect ....

[Lacosteboy]

I agree with Rbt and i also say that SOE is a good

product, and may be used alone by a 20 year old with good

results.
Also the NPA component may well be unnecessary

for a 20 yr old and if you are going to experiment with NPA which is designed to be used diluted then just better be

carefull and start out with the smallest dab ect ....
i was thinkin about 1 dab of

NPA and 2 of SOE
is this ok?
im scared to OD with NPA so.. i just wanna wear a lil bit..

[Mnunez]

What's a best combo?.
SoE +

TE or SoE + NPA? or in that case: Chikara + TE/NPA.

As far as cover goes.
You can mix them directly with

colognes right?. For example, I have 212 (original). Will the alcohol screw up the mones? Is better then to mix it

with the 212 cover scent instead?.

Thanks!

[Lacosteboy]

What's

a best combo?.
SoE + TE or SoE + NPA? or in that case: Chikara + TE/NPA.

As far as cover goes.
You can

mix them directly with colognes right?. For example, I have 212 (original). Will the alcohol screw up the mones? Is

better then to mix it with the 212 cover scent instead?.

Thanks!
yah! i wanna know whats a best

combo TOO xD

SOE + Te or SOE + NPA xD

[kgk4569]

yah! i

wanna know whats a best combo TOO xD

SOE + Te or SOE + NPA xD
personally I like the PI (scented) and

SoE (Scented). I like PI more than the other -none heavy mones.

but as they said, you might not want to go to

heavy on the -none, try some A314 or maybe even WAGG, but I can't seem to find those on the store anymore.....? wtf

happened?

[idesign]

TE is much easier to dose than

NPA, which is 5x stronger. TE/SoE is a great combo.

Mnunez, you can use your 212 to cover any -Mone with no

worries.

[Lacosteboy]

TE is

much easier to dose than NPA, which is 5x stronger. TE/SoE is a great combo.

Mnunez, you can use your 212 to

cover any -Mone with no worries.
how many dabs should i wear?

TE=

ive heard that soe is roll on .

is that truth?

[Mnunez]

TE is much

easier to dose than NPA, which is 5x stronger. TE/SoE is a great combo.

Mnunez, you can use your 212 to

cover any -Mone with no worries.

I guess the answer is clear then :D
If is highly recommended to

go light with products like TE (mainly because of our age), then there's no need to buy a product that's even

stronger and therefore, more chance to OD.

And when we talk about cover scent.
Is it possible, for

example, to mix SoE/TE with 212 and store that mix (in a atomizer, like the one with the newbie pack). Or cover

scents are always at the moment of application?. Do the alcohol from 212 affect the pheromones if they are diluted

there?.

Thanks again for your awesome help.

[terry0400-40]

i

was thinkin about 1 dab of NPA and 2 of SOE
is this ok?
im scared to OD with NPA so.. i just wanna wear a lil

bit..Yes 3 or 4 drops SOE should be sufficient to get you

noticed.

In an intimate setting or confined space

then two drops will be ok.

Or if you are using SOE

gel/pks then use a full one or at least 3/4 of one with the other 1/4 to be used as a refresher if

necessary.

Do not worry about using several drops

upwards to six of the bottled
SOE, because six drops

is the same as using one gel/pkt SOE.

When using

the SOE roller to apply then a 5 inch stripe is equal to one drop.



You will always get positive type results with SOE because it is

Androstenone free in its formulation and therefore OD free.



When considering the addition of NPA to compliment your SOE applications

then its advisable to start out with just a small dab for socialising and this may be increased gradually if it

suits you.

For a party/dance/wild night or pick up

frisky/tipsy girls ect then go for a full drop NPA on these occasions ect..... and 5 - 6 drops

SOE.

[terry0400-40]

how many dabs should i wear?
TE=

ive heard that soe is roll on . is

that truth?Just a small spritz of TE to start your initial

experimentation with Androstenone.

Yes as i

mentioned bottled SOE has a roller ball for rolling the product on to your skin, or you can also roll it back and

forth several times on a clean forefinger and then just layer it wherever it takes your fancy.



Sometimes a new bottle of SOE or a bottle that has

been unused for awhile will have the roller ball applicator stick a little and therefore the flow will not be

consistant.
Therefore in this case just turn the bottle

over and back until the roller ball is wet and with the bottle upright run your clean finger or palm over the ball

to get it rolling free of any concentrated build up, this only takes 20 seconds or so.



Once the ball is rolling free then a five inch or 12

cm stripe will be the same as around one drop of SOE.

[idesign]

how

many dabs should i wear?

TE=

ive heard that soe is roll on . is that truth?

You should always

wear the least amount to start with and move up from there, but only after testing. Less is almost always better,

these are powerful amounts of pheromones compared to what your body produces naturally. At your age I wouldn't

think you'd need much.

Yes, SoE comes in a roll-on bottle, and you can apply liberally, 15-20" is not uncommon,

but you don't need that much if you find a smaller application works.

Hope this helps!

[idesign]

I guess the

answer is clear then :D
If is highly recommended to go light with products like TE (mainly because of our age),

then there's no need to buy a product that's even stronger and therefore, more chance to OD.

And when we talk

about cover scent.
Is it possible, for example, to mix SoE/TE with 212 and store that mix (in a atomizer, like the

one with the newbie pack). Or cover scents are always at the moment of application?. Do the alcohol from 212 affect

the pheromones if they are diluted there?.

Thanks again for your awesome help.

Correct Mnunez, a

mistake a lot of new users make is applying too much -None. A product like NPA is awesome and very powerful, but

hard to manage if you don't have experience, or if you don't need an extra -None boost (younger men). It was

designed to mix 5:1 with cologne and applied to suit.

I've always found it much more preferable to "layer" the

-Mones and cover scent. That way you don't waste product in a full blown mix that may or may not work for

you.

If you layer, you control dosages in a much more specific way, and can use different cover scents each time

you apply if you like.

I am constantly tweaking my -Mone applications and covers to suit whatever function I'm

going to, from work to social, its a never ending process.

Wear one product at a time to learn its properties,

then start "mixing" with low doses. I really don't know of any better advice, its a tried a true story

here.

Hope this helps!

PS Part of the problem with pre-mixing is the carrier. SoE does not have an alcohol

base, not to say that you can't mix it with TE and cologne/EDT products. Again, you have to experiment, and

probably shake your mix like crazy before spraying through an atomizer.

[Mnunez]

Thanks again!.

I finally

made my order. I followed your recomendations and I also order some other stuff in order to experiment (I know, it

would be best to try one at a time and then order some other product) but since I'm overseas and the

shipping/handling time is heavily increased and to save the money of multiple shipments I decided risk a little

more.

My order:
- Beginner Special for Men
- Men's Cover Scents (212)
- APC.
- SOE, NPA,

4 samples pack.

So... I'll have a lot to play with and I'll be posting my experiences / dosages here in

order to eventually help others in return.

Should be arriving soon since I selected EMS.
Hope it actually

arrives and I don't get any troubles with customs! :S

Bye!