View Full Version : what to wear this evening? i have a full arsenal
neiltrain2
11-14-2008, 07:41 AM
hi, meeting a girl for the FOURTH time this evening.
she sees me as more of a friend,
not sure why. she also sees me as cute but a little bit crazy (yes, i really do mean mentally ill) and probably not
a good bet for marriage/looking after her etc,
not sure what to go for tonight? 1st time we met was APC/A7 4
drops of each, and in my opinion she had that DIHL look big time.
she then had 2 weeks to think things over
and i think, for whatever reason, she decided she didnt feel "that thing" - that attraction. but i'm sure she felt
something during our first meet.
since then we've met twice more and i'm not entirely sure what i tried on
our 3rd meet.
what should i go for? yes, i'd like to sleep with her, then maybe retire on top of my
game.
should i go for the trust/non agressive manliness of RONE? or the sexual hit NONE? i have a lot of TE
and NPA here, and frankly the A7 although good on our first date obviously didnt leave a lasting impression on
her.
i'll probably use some unscented SOE but the NOL can make a man seem more weak, and i think i already
seem weak in her eyes,
ok, i'm backing myself into using A7/SOE arent i?
but i want her to feel some
kind of attraction - sexual - so i'm soooo tempted with some TE.
any thoughts? i just want this girl to
change her opinion and want more than just friendship
d3kst3r
11-14-2008, 09:12 AM
My favorite arsenal of choice
currently is SoE and A314. No NPA. Why? Because NPA is not only risky but also stinks and makes men harder for women
to approach. And women think differently to men when it comes to relationships. For men, all it takes is a hot body
to get them to want sex. For women they needs trust and security and personality etc. So for serious relationships
and dates go hard on SoE and A314. Maybe a tiny amount of NPA if you really want it. Save the NPA for until you get
to the sexual relationship phase.
neiltrain2
11-14-2008, 04:56 PM
i dunno, tonight i was
covered in SOE from the roll-top bottle and it's hard to guage. in my opinion if it aint wet, it aint
enough.
inches of SOE are hard to measure, it depends on the roller and i've certainly never ODed on
it.
i also used some NPA tonight. to be honest i've rarely ODed on NPA, i'm one of those guys who can put
on a shed-load and still not OD.
right, i've just been for 4th date with this girl. god, this one could run
and run.
she knows about pheromones now, a little, i was honest with her, cos we have that sort of rapport
where we tell each other everything.
i think she decided i was just gonna be a friend since i ODed on 'NONE
on our second date.
how do i turn that to an advantage now? can i? she's been more receptive since i used
the SOE / NPA combo.
is it possible for girls to go against the gut instinct like - if i ODed once can a
correct blend of pheros make this better or is it ruined forever after the OD?
be nice to know
d3kst3r
11-15-2008, 06:30 AM
Telling her that you wear -nones
is a bit like giving her a psychological heads up going: "this guy is wearing some chemical that makes him more
attractive. Perhaps I should be more weary."
Since the second date you mentioned she wanted to be friends,
I'd read up on a guy called David DeAngelo about that. He describes this phase perfectly.
neiltrain2
11-15-2008, 07:54 AM
i;ve read a lot of david
deangelo myself. according to him i'm doing everything wrong.
with this girl though nothing is that simple.
she likes honesty, she likes me, she just has a mental block when it comes to relationships. bad experiences in
the past i think.
we're as close as 2 people can be without actually being termed a couple.
it was an
accident telling her about the 'mones but might work to my advantage, at least she knows about the overdose and
would explain that particular time.
i diunno, we're soooo close i just dont know what to wear in her
presence but yesterday soe / npa really worked as well as anything would so i might stick to that
soe alone
has worked for me in the past on girls i used to sleep with and want it again after we broke up. 100% record, the
NPA i'm just using to be sure of closing the deal. i dont od on npa like most people do.
i;ve read a
lot of david deangelo myself. according to him i'm doing everything wrong.
with this girl though nothing is
that simple. she likes honesty, she likes me, she just has a mental block when it comes to relationships. bad
experiences in the past i think.
we're as close as 2 people can be without actually being termed a couple.
it was an accident telling her about the 'mones but might work to my advantage, at least she knows about the
overdose and would explain that particular time.
i diunno, we're soooo close i just dont know what to wear in
her presence but yesterday soe / npa really worked as well as anything would so i might stick to that
soe alone
has worked for me in the past on girls i used to sleep with and want it again after we broke up. 100% record, the
NPA i'm just using to be sure of closing the deal. i dont od on npa like most people do.
The Deangelo
stuff is good, but not universal. Even he had a e-booklet that listed "8 successful personality types" for success
with women and it was clear to see he only concentrated on two of them (dominant/lover types as opposed say to
sumbissive/provider type of guy).
You may do just as well following your own path as DD's. See what feels best
and works best for you.
Pendragon
11-22-2008, 08:53 AM
David Deangelo's stuff is
very good. If only I'd had it 10-15 yrs ago. :)
Although use it more as a general guideline rather than
trying to fit yourself into their ideas. If you try and follow a script from anyones courses then it will be really
obvious to women that your not being yourself.
neiltrain2
11-22-2008, 01:32 PM
yeah but his main theme is
to pretend you dont care. women have this "wussy" detection thing and de angelo says never to show a woman you
care.
it's horribly true, it's a shame, we're not meant to be ourselves we're meant to be cold and
aloof.
i'm not sure i really want to be like this but the evidence suggests, at least for me, that it
works.
every time i've had maybe 3-4 girlfriends at one time they were really attracted to the fact i didnt
care. because i really didnt.
Pendragon
11-22-2008, 05:28 PM
Its pretty twisted that being
nice to someone would drive them away, but thats what the results show.
Another person that has good material
is FJ Shark. "How to be the jerk women love" He comes off as have a rougher edge than Deangelo. Still real good
info though.
RobEverHpoeful
11-23-2008, 12:58 AM
I had success with
DeAngelo approach, but like to read PUA forums to get a variety of approaches that I can morph into my own
personality.
I find th ekey is may it match the persona you have (if you're looking for a GF) or the persona you
wanna project (if you up for a one night stand)
Either way its all great fun!
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