View Full Version : Sweating, secret that makes pheromones work
d3kst3r
11-03-2008, 05:56 AM
I've been testing various different types of pheromones for a while now and one thing I've noticed in
every case where they seemed to work like magic is when I've been sweating.
Ok take this example for
instance:
I wear 2 dab of NPA and 6 inches of SoE on my neck for a week straight and get pretty subdued hits
but no real magic. Just more attention from the people I work with.
Next week I wear 2 dab of NPA and 6
inches of SoE however I start doing physically intensive tasks which cause me to perspire. And also I apply these to
my chest area and under my armpits. The hits start to go off the charts with every woman around me seemingly wanting
a piece of me. These hits peak during my most sweating moments.
Now the thing I realize in these two real
life instances, my own scientific explanation is that natural pheromones kind of lie dormant under the arms pits and
the pubic hairs. Human sweat and perspiration might not only help these pheromones get airborne, but also cause some
chemical reaction which switches them on.
This explanation could be logical since our own sweat may contain
another chemical which our own raw pheromones require to start attracting the opposite sex. This chemical might be
information like our immune system and the quality of our genetics etc. and other stuff which makes our own personal
pheromone signature different.
I see a lot of threads about some people not getting barely any effect using
pheromones and other threads talking about crazy "hits" while using them. This could explain also why some people
have better success. I believe the factor here is its contact with human sweat.
Anyway, just my 2 cents. But
test it out yourself and it could work wonders.
This has been touched on before.
I've always felt (but not done anything by way of experiment) that doing a little "sweating" (or at least bringing
the body temp up a bit by some sort of activity) helps if in no other way that to help diffuse the pheromones I'm
wearing. And it would be no suprise that a little "B.O." (aka "stank") that so many guys seem to be so worried about
may in reality contain the very chemicals/smells etc that attract females. Smelling like soap (or not having any
sort of "natural" odor at all) may actually turn some people off!
DrSmellThis
11-03-2008, 05:06 PM
In stank we trust! :D
chris_etd
11-04-2008, 04:18 AM
I have had the same
experience recently. I have lunch with a friend but I have to walk for 15 mins to get there. I also get an hour
break (no more) so anyway these past two days we have taken too much time and I have to lightly jog back. The hits
after were quite substantial.
It might be another factor to consider, sweet OD.
d3kst3r
11-04-2008, 05:24 AM
I've tested the other end of
this theory before by applying quite a substantial amount of pheromones to my neck after getting out of the shower
and entering a dry environment. There was absolutely no sweating involved and the pheromones seemed to have little
to no effect as they just sat around unable to get triggered.
And as I've stated before, I get insane crazy
hits when I'm wearing pheromones and I'm sweating my ass off. It's almost like I transform into a sexual demigod
during these moments even if I wear less pheromones than the previous test.
These two tests have held up time
and time again and I'm almost completely convinced that our own sweat has an important role to play in triggering
pheromones to work, whether it be a unique chemical reaction or simply heat causes them to evaporate and become
airborne.
chris_etd
11-04-2008, 05:36 AM
It's
almost like I transform into a sexual demigod during these moments even if I wear less pheromones than the previous
test.
These two tests have held up time and time again and I'm almost completely convinced that our own sweat
has an important role to play in triggering pheromones to work, whether it be a unique chemical reaction or simply
heat causes them to evaporate and become airborne.
I agree and from now on I am going to be running to
work everyday with them on.
smooth312
11-04-2008, 01:27 PM
I most definitely agree with
this. But the thing is, it's mostly applicable if I apply pheromones, then start sweating.
In other words,
I've noticed if I don't shower or sweat prior to pheromone application, they're not nearly as effective, or
there's too much funk.
It seems to work optimally when I've just showered, apply pheromones, go out and
perpire just a tad on my chest/body and that just sets it off.
But your observation is interesting, because I
thought it was just me. In that case that this could be something significant, I'm going to try and see what will
happen if I mix my arm pit sweat with pheromones and then apply it on my neck/chest, (covered with cover scent of
course).
In that
case that this could be something significant, I'm going to try and see what will happen if I mix my arm pit sweat
with pheromones and then apply it on my neck/chest, (covered with cover scent of course).
There was that
thread a while back where it was crotch/ball sweat being experimented with...
idesign
11-04-2008, 08:10 PM
The following study seems to
support this theory. It also supports my wild-ass guess/theory (stated in another recent thread) that a complex
balance of natural pheromones blends with the synthetic pheromones we apply on our skin, and results will vary
widely with the individual depending on their unique chemical system. As always, I reserve the right to be
clueless.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8142319?dopt=Abstract
terry0400-40
11-05-2008, 12:54 AM
The
following study seems to support this theory. It also supports my wild-ass guess/theory (stated in another recent
thread) that a complex balance of natural pheromones blends with the synthetic pheromones we apply on our skin, and
results will vary widely with the individual depending on their unique chemical system. As always, I reserve the
right to be clueless.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/814231
9?dopt=Abstract (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8142319?dopt=AbstractI)[/quote]I[
/COLOR] (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8142319?dopt=Abstract[/quote]I)[COLOR=blue] have seen some phero products advertised that they are formulated to enhance a persons
natural pheros, and some of these products also have added pheromones in as well as the enhancement
factor.
I have had my best AE hits when i was at a large indoor gathering in summer and the
air conditioner was not working, every second person was fanning them selves, meanwhile i was getting crazy amount
of hits.
I was not perspiring but was close to doing so.
I think
the body heat has something to do with improved dispersion ect.
Well its the start of
another hot summer here in Australia, so i will do a some sweat tests with this subject in mind.
So Terry, you are going to be asking
the ladies if they "want to get sweaty" with you?
We are moving in to our cold season here in the US, which
always puts a damper on things. So many people get all bundled up, scarves over faces/noses, stuffy sinuses, etc.
And not much sweat... Oh well.
terry0400-40
11-05-2008, 02:35 PM
So Terry,
you are going to be asking the ladies if they "want to get sweaty" with you?
We are moving in to our cold season
here in the US, which always puts a damper on things. So many people get all bundled up, scarves over faces/noses,
stuffy sinuses, etc. And not much sweat... Oh well.I can empathize with you Sir Rbt as i for one
do not have a great love of the Winter, especially those bleak cold types.
I can recommend
that you take some time off during the Phero off season to devote some valuable attention to building your man of
action up, with perhaps some Xgenus oil ect,
Yeah come spring and you will be the Stallion
in demand ....\o/ .... no Bull...te he
I find that excessive
perspiration is the cause of depleted and wasted synthetic pheromone applications, like being caught in a downpour
after a phero application is a downer, especially if one is caught out on the way to the party without a back up
spray or emergency vial tucked into the waste band of their G string ect. :blink:
Have you
have ever been caught out in a bad storm with a strange woman accompanying you, both cold and wet and this situation
has caused a reaction of great sexual excitement and attraction between you both, Resulting in a passionate affair.
:wub: :whip:
belgareth
11-05-2008, 02:55 PM
I keep coming back to this
topic and reading it again, the serious parts anyway. It never occured to me but makes such perfect sense. I'll use
two of the classic examples from forum members. Gegogi and I are about the same age. He is Asian and I am Caucasion.
We both work out a lot.
He can safely wear NPA by the quart but I can barely spray TE near me without ODing. I
am begining to think that D3's astute observation explains the difference better than anything I've heard before.
I'm hairy and sweat a lot even though I am in good shape. Gegogi is almost hairless and sweats less.
Next
question, the mechanism that makes it work. I don't think its body heat as my normal body temperature is lower than
most.
neiltrain2
11-09-2008, 08:26 AM
wow, i;ve actually got
something relevant to add to this topic.
firstly, in nightclubs where of course everyone sweats, i've had a
lot of success AND failed to OD on a dose of maybe 6 dabs or higher of NPA. what would be a major od for most
people sometimes works in these sweaty conditions. i thought it was just drunk girls but yes, i can imagine it's
the sweat.
the other time i get a LOT of hits is the morning after. before i've had a shower i would go
grab coffee/breakfast somewhere like in the hotel, and the hits are always amazing.
i just put it down to NPA
or similar being at smaller/non-OD levels than the night before but yes, i would have been sweaty on these
occasions.
worth some exploration this one:)
smooth312
11-09-2008, 01:44 PM
I keep
coming back to this topic and reading it again, the serious parts anyway. It never occured to me but makes such
perfect sense. I'll use two of the classic examples from forum members. Gegogi and I are about the same age. He is
Asian and I am Caucasion. We both work out a lot.
He can safely wear NPA by the quart but I can barely spray TE
near me without ODing. I am begining to think that D3's astute observation explains the difference better than
anything I've heard before. I'm hairy and sweat a lot even though I am in good shape. Gegogi is almost hairless
and sweats less.
Next question, the mechanism that makes it work. I don't think its body heat as my normal body
temperature is lower than most.
Yes!
I sweat quite a lot compared to most, and it actually runs in my
family. I even got a medication to stop sweating on my palms/armpits once, but stopped using it. Anyway, point is,
I sweat a lot.
No wonder I have such a low threshold for androstenone. I can wear very little and still elicit
strong reactions. My best hits are also after I've sweat a bit.
tribal
11-10-2008, 06:56 AM
wow,
i;ve actually got something relevant to add to this topic.
firstly, in nightclubs where of course everyone
sweats, i've had a lot of success AND failed to OD on a dose of maybe 6 dabs or higher of NPA. what would be a
major od for most people sometimes works in these sweaty conditions. i thought it was just drunk girls but yes, i
can imagine it's the sweat.
the other time i get a LOT of hits is the morning after. before i've had a
shower i would go grab coffee/breakfast somewhere like in the hotel, and the hits are always amazing.
i just
put it down to NPA or similar being at smaller/non-OD levels than the night before but yes, i would have been sweaty
on these occasions.
worth some exploration this one:)
This has happened numerous times. I
either sparyed the night before or sweated alot, woke up to get breakfast next day without bath and get hits.
This is one reason I question the
use of anti-perspirants. Unless you have an extreme case of wet pits or are in a situation (eg business look) where
obvious dampness would be a negative, a regular deoderant would be preferred, if anything is used at all (I usually
go totally without - unless I'm not feeling well. I've found that when I get sick my pits really can reek. It's
one way I can tell I'm fighting an infection.)
There are of course the debates over whether the chemicals used
in anti-p products are good for you at all (eg aluminum) but right now I'm only considering the stank factor.
From what I've gleaned over the years, "hot and sweaty" often worked pretty well in terms of sexual responses. I
recall a survey that asked women what kind of men would attract them and many replied "sweaty construction worker"
type (probably a buff bodied one though, over a beer belly butt-crack flasher...).
(Of course what people SAY
they want and what they really find satisfying can oft be different things...)
SwingerMD
11-12-2008, 01:42 AM
Interesting. Just had an
amazing night at a dance this past Sunday. The DJ got me in a really good groove with his set list that night. On
nights like these, I'm thinking that my good mood/vibe gets me the first few dances. When I start sweating, it
seems that the follows don't let me rest. This can also explain why so many people hang out around my stuff (where
I keep my towel) as the night progresses.
-SwingerMD
This can
also explain why so many people hang out around my stuff (where I keep my towel) as the night progresses.
-SwingerMD
So THAT's what they meant in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy when they said to "always
know where your towel is."
Don't Panic!
:rant:
terry0400-40
11-12-2008, 01:19 PM
So
THAT's what they meant in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy when they said to "always know where your towel is."
Don't Panic!
:rant:Would a love cloth work just as well ? Ie rinse after use and then
store the juice or sell it to Stone Labs. email 0400-40@juiceworks.com
:blink:
Why dont you ask Bruce to print up some Love-Scent towels or love cloths to be
thrown in with the orders.
d3kst3r
11-12-2008, 07:46 PM
Well in Italy they have this
ceremony where the young men who have come of age would dance around with hankerchiefs under their armpits and work
up a sweat. Then they'd flap the hankerchiefs in front of the faces of onlooking young women and the women would
swoon over the men. So I believe this is practiced quite a bit in the real world to good effect.
terry0400-40
11-13-2008, 12:38 AM
Well
in Italy they have this ceremony where the young men who have come of age would dance around with hankerchiefs under
their armpits and work up a sweat. Then they'd flap the hankerchiefs in front of the faces of onlooking young women
and the women would swoon over the men. So I believe this is practiced quite a bit in the real world to good
effect.iT seems as if pheromone use was recognised long before becoming a science. :wub:
:whip:
Well in Italy
they have this ceremony where the young men who have come of age would dance around with hankerchiefs under their
armpits and work up a sweat. Then they'd flap the hankerchiefs in front of the faces of onlooking young women and
the women would swoon over the men. So I believe this is practiced quite a bit in the real world to good
effect.
So it appears more and more that using underarm deoderant, or worse, anti-perspirant, is
actually working against guys in their pursuit of the ladies...
:lovestruc
Maybe instead of producing
pheromone-enhanced colognes work on a pheromone-enhanced "pit stick" is in order...
:thumbsup:
(Just send
my share of the profits for the idea to my L-S account so I can buy more stuff!)
:cool:
NAS1985
11-13-2008, 09:18 AM
hey iam a
first time user of pheromones....and i cant decide between alter ego and npa...which one would u suggest..are they
equally strong....
terry0400-40
11-13-2008, 10:43 AM
hey
iam a first time user of pheromones....and i cant decide between alter ego and npa...which one would u suggest..are
they equally strong....Both AE and NPA contain a generous amount of Genuine pheromone weight per
ml.
If you are teenager or a young man then i would suggest the
triple pheromone action of AE and start out with one or two drops application amount. ( bottled version
)
If you follow the good advice of Rbt, and order some AE gels and
also a 5ml bottle of NPA, THEN :-
Use each product alone for a period of time.
With the AE gels start out with using 1/4 of the pack only because a full pkt contains about 35.52
mcg of Androstenone, + 26.66 Androstenol + 17.77 mcg Androsterone.
I personally, because
of my age get away with applying larger concentrations of Androstenone,
And i have
received some excellent hits with using about 1/3 AE gel/pkt,
especially in hot
weather.
NPA can be a little like dynamite one way or another and is best suited to pros
when using neat from the bottle,
because its soooo easy for a beginner to OD on this juice,
This stuff is designed to be diluted with cologne ect for consistant results, unless its used in the hands of an
experienced phero artist.
A good alternative to NPA is to order some TE because it is the
same formula as NPA and the TE is easier to use for a beginner than the NPA.
With TE,
EDGE Sandalwood start off with one small spray applications and take your observations from there.
:cheers:
Gegogi
11-13-2008, 09:50 PM
Smelling like soap (or not
having any sort of "natural" odor at all) may actually turn some people off!
I love it when women smell
like fresh soap! And most women I've dated insist on a shower before screwing so obviously they feel the same. Most
Korean and Japanese women I've known don't like the smell of sweat (not talking about 2 hour workout
sweat--normal, couple hours after a shower). Of course it could be a cultural thing with East Asians. Obviously some
Europeans like 'em more "ripe."
chris_etd
11-14-2008, 04:03 AM
Ok guys I took part in a fun
run today without a single drop of pheros (but some may have been on from yesterday) and afterwards I was receiving
eye contact NPA style.
So I think that the sweating certainly does bring out your natural pheros.
d3kst3r
11-14-2008, 07:27 AM
Come to think of it, I can
recall several times when I've been attracted to the opposite sex in such an extreme way that I've wanted to just
reach out and grab them and start shagging. And many of these moments occurred on hot days and the women in question
were perspiring pretty hard.
Why do more mature women have a fantasy for plumbers and other types of manual
labor workers? Once again they've had an experience where they've been exposed to pheromones by said
tradesman.
Why do rock stars become sex gods and get countless women wanting to be their groupies straight
after a concert? Because playing a one to two hour set live works up a hell of a sweat and along with pheromones
also gives them the halo effect.
Hell, even Madonna was initially attracted to Guy Ritchie through the
exposure of his pheromones. The first time the pair met Guy Ritchie was hot and sweaty from a tennis game on a hot
day and met Madonna while he was shirtless. According to Madonna she was hooked from that point and wanted to marry
him. Once again an example of natural pheromones.
Why do some men have a fetish for sniffing women's used
panties? Because the vaginal area secrets a truckload of pheromones and men are sniffing panties in order to inhale
the addictive pheromones.
So all in all I'm fairly certain that pheromones work and are for real. But this
still begs the question, how come commercial pheromones contain one hundred times the concentration of natural
pheromones but women aren't suddenly trying to rape men who wear them? In fact why do some men find that pheromones
don't even work for them? The only link and valid conclusion I can possibly come up with is still the most simple.
Sweat.
So all in all I'm fairly
certain that pheromones work and are for real. But this still begs the question, how come commercial pheromones
contain one hundred times the concentration of natural pheromones but women aren't suddenly trying to rape men who
wear them? In fact why do some men find that pheromones don't even work for them?
From what I've
seen/read on forums etc often the mantra for pheromones is "less is more." There have been a number of posts for
example that recount how someone feels they have literally turned invisible when they OD on androstenone. It's
possible an excess of pheromones can overwhelm the receptors - maybe they shut down and response stops.
koolking1
11-16-2008, 08:04 AM
"I love it when women smell
like fresh soap! And most women I've dated insist on a shower before screwing so obviously they feel the same. Most
Korean and Japanese women I've known don't like the smell of sweat (not talking about 2 hour workout
sweat--normal, couple hours after a shower). Of course it could be a cultural thing with East Asians. Obviously some
Europeans like 'em more "ripe."
Ditto for SouthEastAsian women. While I was stationed there it became
apparent that GIs could have done better with the local gals if they didn't eat so much meat, the smell does come
through.
pheromon
02-10-2009, 01:09 AM
You know what? I get the same
results. I thought i was crazy and it was all in my head. I have the same combo of soe and npa. The lights come
on when ive just started sweating.
terry0400-40
02-10-2009, 02:26 AM
[quote=pheromon;213871]You
know what? I get the same results. I thought i was crazy and it was all in my head. I have the same combo of soe and
npa. The lights come on when ive just started sweating.[/quote
It is
fairly hot where i am in Australia, especially at the moment with top temperatures between 32 - 36
celcius.
Probably why i tend to get fairly good hits
overall.
Hey Pheromon how/where are you applying your mixes in the hot weather.
I have noticed that the pheromones can stick around on
the skin and start building up and also converting, so i reccommend a good scrub up between applications. :cheers:
fantasylove
02-10-2009, 04:11 AM
I've
been testing various different types of pheromones for a while now and one thing I've noticed in every case where
they seemed to work like magic is when I've been sweating.
Ok take this example for instance:
I wear 2 dab of
NPA and 6 inches of SoE on my neck for a week straight and get pretty subdued hits but no real magic. Just more
attention from the people I work with.
Next week I wear 2 dab of NPA and 6 inches of SoE however I start doing
physically intensive tasks which cause me to perspire. And also I apply these to my chest area and under my armpits.
The hits start to go off the charts with every woman around me seemingly wanting a piece of me. These hits peak
during my most sweating moments.
Now the thing I realize in these two real life instances, my own scientific
explanation is that natural pheromones kind of lie dormant under the arms pits and the pubic hairs. Human sweat and
perspiration might not only help these pheromones get airborne, but also cause some chemical reaction which switches
them on.
This explanation could be logical since our own sweat may contain another chemical which our own raw
pheromones require to start attracting the opposite sex. This chemical might be information like our immune system
and the quality of our genetics etc. and other stuff which makes our own personal pheromone signature
different.
I see a lot of threads about some people not getting barely any effect using pheromones and other
threads talking about crazy "hits" while using them. This could explain also why some people have better success. I
believe the factor here is its contact with human sweat.
Anyway, just my 2 cents. But test it out yourself and it
could work wonders.
Yes, I agree with you. But it is winter now. Do you come from
Australia?http://img.imagebaskets.com/img/u/d.gif
d3kst3r
02-10-2009, 07:17 AM
Actually yes. I am from
Australia where it's bloody hot and I get my best hits when I can feel the sweat on my body emanating outwards.
pheromon
02-10-2009, 11:37 AM
I always apply the mones to my
neck. I was also raised in a humid enviorment. The island of oahu. I noticed while i was there i had some of the
most incredible hits.
stuttgart-man
02-10-2009, 04:45 PM
You
know what? I get the same results. I thought i was crazy and it was all in my head. I have the same combo of soe
and npa. The lights come on when ive just started sweating.
Our build (hair color, body hight, the
figure and other features) as well as our evaporated pheromones are both determined by our genes! When we sweating
the applied mones will be mixed with your natural mones what have the advantage that the folk can associate your
(with mones bosted) body smell with you! Even we stay in a gathering, peolple can link your body smell with your
person! So sweating is a kind of medium which transport the mones to other minds!
pheromon
02-10-2009, 09:38 PM
Thanks stuttgart-man! I agree
with what your saying. I can actually identify the different employees that have been around awhile by there body
scent.
Today i decided to do away with the car and ride my bike to work. I put on enough clothing to make
sure my body was hot when i arrived. Added 3 drops of AE to my neck, and then headed on to the retail floor. What a
Beautiful day. Tons of HIT!! I had this James Bond aura around me today. Even the ex. girlfriend was in and kept
bugging me 2day. She had that I want you look on her face. Havnt seen that in awhile. lol
kgk4569
02-11-2009, 06:33 AM
ohyou want to talk about
sweating heh. I did a samll experiment while I was out with my friends Yesterday.
1 Dab Pheros, on the
Jugular
2 Spray C7 under the shirt.
We went out to the mall, Things where fine, but lately we have had a little
warm spell here, and I was wearing a leather sport coat. I started sweating a little so I kept it going, figuring
this would be the perfect time to try this out.
Let me just describe myself again for the picture: 6'5" 310lb.
my shoulders are broad enough that there are about 6" left in a doorway. Wearing my work shirt (blue polo), a Black
leather sport coat. Carpenter pants, and skater shoes. I have blond curly hair, blue eyes, a reddish goatee, and a
constant smirk (usually).
About 15 min after i started sweating, I noticed that my friends filed in behind me,
and no matter where I walked people would usually keep an arms leangth away. Also alot of people whould advert their
eyes or duck thier heads when I made eye contact. plus later I ended up getting one of those headaches that hurt
every time you move your head suddenly.
That was a fun experience. No hits, but fun.
I think definately
secrete alot of -None naturally, and I think this definately proved it for me.
d3kst3r
02-12-2009, 07:44 AM
Ah, the good old James Bond
vibe. There is no better way of describing it actually. I always get it with NPA and sweat and A314. It's kind of
more of a Sean Connery old school vibe for me. I suppose if you already have a high -none that causes people to
avoid eye contact then it would be the pissed off and murderous Daniel Craig vibe.
I've yet to read of a
sweat + nol experience. But I believe it could turn you into the life of the party.
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