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Alex157
10-12-2008, 09:54 AM
I know that Kasparov is popular in the USA (for example, he is publishing an article after article in the
Washington post) and considered as a democrat.
On the photo he is with
the second co-leader of Kasparov’s ‘Another Russia’ Eduard Limonov. And then some posters of Limonov’s personal
organization from its site http://www.nazbol.ru/galery/2.html
After such democrats Putin looks really attractive.
http://i006.radikal.ru/0810/9c/d76bf6be3d33.jpg
http://s47.radikal.ru/i115/0810/4a/7063b6a51b8c.jpg
RUSSIA[FON
T=Tahoma] IS EVERYTHING, OTHERS ARE NOTHING.[/FONT]
http://s56.radikal.ru/i152/0810/94/e58cbfeac33e.jpg
http://i013.radikal.ru/0810/09/84e669dc3de5.jpg
http://s49.radikal.ru/i123/0810/d8/10eb1fffe027.jpg
http://s47.radikal.ru/i115/0810/97/75c652510200.jpg
http://s54.radikal.ru/i144/0810/2e/1b3476594bdc.jpg
http://s52.radikal.ru/i138/0810/b2/01af0da63493.jpg
http://s40.radikal.ru/i089/0810/e5/b92841c27318.jpg
http://i014.radikal.ru/0810/fd/ee6f01825b52.jpg
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DrSmellThis
11-03-2008, 05:28 PM
So I take it the issue from
your perspective is that Kasparov is too much more concerned with overturning Putin at whatever cost; than he is
with a positive democratic solution (hence the tie with a radical, anti-Putin element). It seems Kasparov might have
little in common with that individual other than a hate for Putin? I know Kasparov views Putin as a sort of
criminal.
My personal affinity and respect for Kasparov has mostly to do with my association with him as a member
of his excellent but ill-fated chess website some years ago. It was one of the best websites in the history of the
web, easily. So it was day to day dealings, and watching him closely as an ambassador for chess. He was a "class
act" (no Marxist pun intended :)); intelligent, gracious, even-handed, and reasonable at every turn, in that
context. He was a great advocate for democracy, striking me almost as a purist in that regard. What has happened
since I cannot speak to.
I also cannot speak to what you posted, as it is more a collection of provocative images
than anything I can draw a conclusion from. In my little reading on the issue, it just seemed there was a two sided
debate going on, but I couldn't make satisfactory sense of it.
Alex157
03-08-2009, 01:30 AM
So I
take it the issue from your perspective is that Kasparov is too much more concerned with overturning Putin at
whatever cost; than he is with a positive democratic solution
Yes, absolutely. And it is right for all
our so called 'democrats'. They hate Putin and each other but nobody is able to create any working party or social
organization.
DrSmellThis
03-08-2009, 01:37 AM
Yes,
absolutely. And it is right for all our so called 'democrats'. They hate Putin and each other but nobody is able
to create any working party or social organization.Thanks for your response, Alex. Good to see you back
attempting to talk with us ugly Americans. ;)
Have been enjoying Russian music lately, as there is a rather large
Russian (and eastern European, Western Asian) community here in Portland. I want to get one of those cotton shirts
with the cool horizontal stripes and no collar like so many Russians here wear. :)
How are things where you
live?
DrSmellThis
03-08-2009, 01:55 AM
Yes,
absolutely. And it is right for all our so called 'democrats'. They hate Putin and each other but nobody is able
to create any working party or social organization.That is truly a shame. You need a charismatic and popular
leader who is a uniter rather than a divider. Maybe then it will be possible.
But I think the lesson in the world
is that democracy takes many forms. There is not one right way that comes from an Adam Smith book or something.
There is not one kind of constitution, or one kind of bill of rights. There is nothing sacred about Jefferson,
Franklin, Washington, or any of our founding fathers, who were responding to specific political conditions at the
time, from within a collection of English colonies.
France, the Netherlands, and Canada have democracies that
differ significantly from ours. Yet it is not the case that we are clearly successful in every way while they
clearly fail in every way,
It would be quite an adjustment to go from "communism" to democracy and capitalism.
They are opposite in many ways.
In some sense, the form of government you have is determined by the fact of a
government trying to put down rebellions or control a population, rather than a philosophy of government. That will
hopefully change sooner rather than later.
My point is that it is more than OK for all of you to carve your own
unique path. It is required. Hopefully you will come up with something better than what we have.
If the former
soviet countries can devise something in the middle, or something that combines the best of both political mindsets
(minus the dictatorship part), it would be a major accomplishment for the world. That is something to shoot for. In
my opinion, people here think too black and white about capitalism versus socialism, for example, in a good versus
evil, "one or the other" manner; instead of seeing both as opposite ideas in search of a "dialectical synthesis"
(see Hegel) or third way that might be superior to both. Nothing is harder, perhaps. But nothing has more potential
to contribute to planetary history.
(Here I define "communism" as the versions actually practiced by Soviets,
Chinese, Cubans and others; not the Marxist version from the Manifesto, which strikes me as a bit utopian.)
Alex157
03-08-2009, 02:41 PM
Thank you, the only thing which prevents me from coming here more often is that
we are promoting our site and I have to talk with ugly Russians all the time :
)
As for Russian music I advice Visotsky and Gradsky, I
think it is possible to download them for the Net for free.
I live in Moscow and everything is OK. I hope that our
opposition which is trying to 'swing the boat' as we say here will fail to start a civil war :
)
I'll answer your letter a bit later. As for a
charismatic leader we have a joke here.
A woman comes in
a subway train and asks 'are there no gentlemen here who will suggest me a place to
seat?'
- 'Madam, there are tons of gentlemen here. There
is a lack of seats'.
The same is with leaders here :
)
Sigeoptop
12-01-2009, 06:15 AM
Bored
again...b/c there are still no good ads...so I thought I would ask you all this: Who here has snow for Thanksgiving
and/or Christmas? Im in NE Texas, so I dont get snow for any of the holidays. The last time I remember a lot of
snow near a holiday was either in 02 or 03, the day after Christmas. We usually dont get our winter weather until
after the first of the year, but then its only freezing rain and sleet...more dangerous than pretty.
belgareth
12-01-2009, 08:22 AM
I'm in the Dallas/Fort Worth
area. It looks like we may see a little snow by the end of the week. Possible but not likely. But the cold is coming
fast, we should have hard freezes very soon. Of course, there's no telling what the weather is likely to do next
here. Possibly 90 degrees and sunny next week? :)
idesign
12-01-2009, 07:19 PM
Bored
again...b/c there are still no good ads...so I thought I would ask you all this: Who here has snow for Thanksgiving
and/or Christmas? Im in NE Texas, so I dont get snow for any of the holidays. The last time I remember a lot of
snow near a holiday was either in 02 or 03, the day after Christmas. We usually dont get our winter weather until
after the first of the year, but then its only freezing rain and sleet...more dangerous than pretty.
I
live in the twilight zone, and we usually get snow on Thursdays. Freezing rain and sleet is for the Global Warming
bunch, and we usually don't go in for much of that, unless we're in the mood for parlor games, which, by the way,
is great fun if you're in a fraternity like Terra Delta Finale.
Love your home page, kinda like Spammus
Secretion Beta, reality show and all. Was that your g/f ??? :)
HornyMan
12-30-2009, 02:48 AM
And I thought Kasparov
was a great chess player :-)
Alex157
05-05-2010, 01:51 PM
And I
thought Kasparov was a great chess player :-)
and he really was :)
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