View Full Version : yes! i received my pheromones
MeDieViL
06-23-2008, 02:37 AM
ordered
chikara gel packs, alpha7, liquid trust and npa edit and forgot alter ego
i used soe and chikara gel packs in the
past but not much succes with the soe
i'l post a log here!!
i'm very happy\o/
Gmoney
06-23-2008, 09:10 PM
Enjoy the C7, it's my favorite
so far! Maybe a packet of C7 with a drop or two of A7 should do you good!
MeDieViL
06-24-2008, 09:42 AM
what is C7?:POKE:
Gmoney
06-24-2008, 09:49 AM
C7 is Chikara. I guess it's a
nickname because it's got 7 different pheromones in it.
MeDieViL
06-24-2008, 09:54 AM
ah allright:lol:
MeDieViL
06-25-2008, 04:37 AM
i applied 2 drops of alter ego
and walked around outside a bit but nothing interesting to report, but just walking around aint that great for
testing either:p
Sodbuster
06-26-2008, 06:57 PM
Go to the bar! Wear the
Chikara and a little bit of Alpha7. Don't forget that you have to approach the women, this will just help you once
you've made the approach. Want to see mones at work? Head to the club.
MeDieViL
06-27-2008, 01:00 AM
today i gotta go to school to
get my exam results, i just applied alpha 7, apperantly everyone like this one so i'l see how this one work
its
also weekend so i'm going out tonight :)
MeDieViL
06-29-2008, 03:00 AM
didnt notice anything special,
but everyone seemed very friendly but nothing that i would say is a hit
tried alpha 7 2 days, used 2 drops each
time
idesign
06-29-2008, 06:45 AM
A7 is more of a sexual product.
Try out your Chikara to start with, I think you'll get better results. If you go to a bar or party add a drop of
A7 to your C7.
MeDieViL
06-29-2008, 12:06 PM
allright i'l play around with
chikare more, but if A7 is more sexual shouldnt there be girls looking at me? or does this only work once you get
along with a girl, and it are the other pheromones that catch the girls attention?
Gmoney
06-29-2008, 01:08 PM
If you're very aware of the
body language, you should be able to percieve the difference, if not, you'll probably mostly notice the difference
after you initiate contact.
There may be the rare instance where it's completely obvious this girl is smitten
with you when she normally wouldn't be, but it's rare. Actually, not quite so rare in situations where alcohol is
involved as inhibitions are lowered.
idesign
06-29-2008, 06:06 PM
If you're
very aware of the body language, you should be able to percieve the difference, if not, you'll probably mostly
notice the difference after you initiate contact.
Bingo.
Pheromones do require some effort on
your part, perhaps even more so since you should be paying attention and making more of an effort to put your
sexy-smelling self forward in a good manner.
If anything, wearing pheromones has made me pay attention to my
manner in general when around people, both professionally and socially.
MeDieViL
07-01-2008, 12:49 PM
today i apllied 2 drops A7 and
some chikara, i can definatly say that they dont work because i went away with some friends, but some of them dont
give me any respect and there was no change today
Gmoney
07-01-2008, 01:16 PM
Were you inside? Outside? How
much Chikara? How close proximity? Mones are more effective with people you haven't met before than they are in
changing the minds of people who already have you pigeon holed. They can help with both situations, but will be
more dramatic with new people. Also, if you went away outdoors, you can pretty much write it off to that, I've had
very little luck with outdoor mone usage.
MeDieViL
07-01-2008, 01:38 PM
i was outside... well going to
work tomorrow but wonna try a new mix
any suggestions on dosages/ mix just for getting more respect from guys
(not many girls on work anywhay)
belgareth
07-01-2008, 02:06 PM
If you keep randomly hopping
from one thing to the next and applying random mixes you'll never get it figured out.
Let's start at the
begining. What are your goals? You mentioned respect, is there an issue here with getting respect from others? It
isn't something that comes for free or out of a bottle, it's earned. Are you behaving in a manner consistent with
the mones you are wearing and the respect you are trying to acheive? If not, forget it. You aren't going to get
anywhere. Wearing mones is like wearing new clothes or a woman wearing makeup. They add to what your body language,
your personal grooming and your use of your spoken language already say about you. Dressing an orangutan in a suit
and tie does not make him an executive. Wearing alpha type mones does not make you an alpha unless the rest of your
personna is alpha.
To begin, what are you trying to achieve? And what is your over all personna? Be specific
and be honest with yourself about it. Mones are not miracle workers but with some methodology and a reasonable
approach they can help you be more successful.
MeDieViL
07-01-2008, 02:21 PM
is there an issue here
with getting respect from others?just friends of friends they dont like me all that much, but its not like
they bullie me, they ignore me a litlle, i'm trying to achieve some more attention from those guys, when they dont
ignore me as much i'l try to initiate some conversations and work my way up for some respect, i know the mones dont
do that for me, but i was hoping they make it a litle easier
To begin, what are you trying to achieve?
And what is your over all personna? Be specific and be honest with yourself about it. Mones are not miracle workers
but with some methodology and a reasonable approach they can help you be more successful.i would like to get
more respect from guys and more attention from women, i used to be pretty shy because i've got social anxiety, but
i did find some good medication so thats allmost gone now :)
i know pheromones are no miracle potion, just trying
to achieve what others did when reading hit reports
so i decided i'm gonna keep experimenting with A7 only or in
combo's and the other ones later
Gmoney
07-01-2008, 02:26 PM
I had some good results this
weekend with the guys on my kickball team. Most were already friendly, but a couple were down right standoff ish
towards me. Anyway, at this party, I was wearing about 25 inches of SOE and 2 drops of A7, and the standoffish guys
were much friendlier. But it was inside, and I'm overall a pretty confident cat. But ya know, some people just
won't like you, try to recognize when it's a lost cause.
My full hit report is called Finally, hits with
SOE+A7
belgareth
07-01-2008, 03:19 PM
Personally, I believe that to
get good with mones you need to work with a single product until you understand what it does and how much you need
to wear. Then move onto another product and do the same thing. Once you have several products that you understand
you can start mixing and know what you are doing. Otherwise, learning anything or becoming competent so you get good
results is going to be pure luck.
Gmoney is right that some people are never going to like you, others are just
assholes to everybody and still others are trying to prove how good they are by being jerks to others. In general,
screw them! Ignore them and don't waste any more thought on them. They are not worth your time or trouble. You know
who and what you are, if they don't like something about you it is their problem and not yours. Don't let some
bloody jackass belittle you like that. You do not need them and should stop trying to get them to like you. All that
does it gives them control. If you are always willing to ignore them or walk away then you have control.
MeDieViL
07-01-2008, 03:28 PM
allright, i'l start
experimenting with A7, i'l go lower and only use 1 drop, as i allways used 2 drops before, that could have been the
problem as i'm only 20 years old
Mtnjim
07-01-2008, 03:42 PM
...
Dressing an orangutan in a suit and tie does not make him an executive.
You don't know some of the
executives I do.
Listen to Bel and the G man.They know what they are talking about. Also, beside the "Alpha"
mones, you need to include some "Socials", like SoE and the ~nol's.
belgareth
07-01-2008, 04:05 PM
You don't
know some of the executives I do.
Good point! I used to work in the corporate world and there were
plenty of orangutans in high places. Sometimes I think and other times I'm sure that semian attributes are a
requirement to high government office. I haven't seen a high level politician that was smarter than a chimpanzee in
many years. If you want to get picky about it, I'd be willing to bet that most bonobos are smarter than the average
human and definately smarter than the best politician.
MeDieViL
07-02-2008, 03:46 AM
You don't
know some of the executives I do.
Listen to Bel and the G man.They know what they are talking about. Also,
beside the "Alpha" mones, you need to include some "Socials", like SoE and the ~nol's.
i used soe gel
packs in varying doses before without any result, but i'l try a full pack...
today it ried 1 drop of A7 without
any result
MOBLEYC57
07-02-2008, 07:19 AM
i used
soe gel packs in varying doses before without any result, but i'l try a full pack...
today it ried 1 drop of A7
without any result
Where did you apply your 1 drop ... did you wear a cover scent?
How old are you
MeD? You seem in such a hurry. You're personality plays a BIG role in what the mones can pull off or not.
I'd
say that everything you try, needs to be for AT LEAST 7 days. So what no one tears off their clothes and jumps on
you. You need to learn all the subtle moves/movements that women give off before you can tell if mones are working
for you. Without that knowledge, you're in trouble.
I could be wrong here, so don't start shooting. :angel:
MeDieViL
07-02-2008, 07:26 AM
i'm 20 years old, i dropped
the A7 on my hands and then rub it on my neck, i just sprayed some AXE on it...
Gmoney
07-02-2008, 08:22 AM
Instead of putting it on your
hands(palms), try dripping it on a finger tip and spread it around that way. The idea is to lessen the amount of
product that gets absorbed into the skin of your hands, which should be washed often, and to maximize what gets to
your targetted location. Some people can put it on their wrists and then rub their wrists on their neck, so none is
wasted. I don't seem to be that flexible...
MeDieViL
07-02-2008, 10:17 AM
allright i'l try that thx
For "respect" I'm thinking maybe a
touch of a314 - IF you can pull off the later versions of Sean Connery's James Bond character. You gotta be able to
"use" what pheromones give you. (a314 is heavy on androsteRONE).
My thought.
idesign
07-03-2008, 07:51 PM
For "respect"
I'm thinking maybe a touch of a314 - IF you can pull off the later versions of Sean Connery's James Bond
character. You gotta be able to "use" what pheromones give you. (a314 is heavy on androsteRONE).
My
thought.
Great point Rbt. With all Mones, you need to present yourself in a manner congruent with your
Mone signature.
That's to say if you smell sexy, you'd better present yourself that way, or at least
potentially sexy. Same goes for respect, you have to personally elicit the respect that the A314 is signaling.
IMHO, a lot of OD and "no results" scenarios occur when a pheromone signal does not match the wearer's persona.
:goodpost:
MeDieViL
07-04-2008, 09:36 AM
hmm, srry i'l i look like an
idiot right now but when i wear alpha 7 how would i need to act then? sexy? is acting with loads of self confidence
sexy?
thx
also, when i take MDMA i vet very extroverted, a total personality change (even after i came down
from E the next day but i'm still there without any social anxiety) i notice that ppl are alot more friendly to me,
maybe i start acting like my natural pheromone profile then?
belgareth
07-04-2008, 10:46 AM
In large part people are going
to mirror you and how you act. We all do that subconciously as a means of making others feel more comfortable. So
when others are friendly you might consider how you are acting, are they being friendly because that is what they
see from you?
Self confidence is something that you can learn to have and when you have it, it shows. In my own
case, depending on my mood and what I want somebody to see I have been called self confident, amusing, gregarious,
aloof, kind and arrogant, to name a few of the more polite ones. Every one of them is true and to some degree it is
true of everybody else. The most shy person can become a prima donna when you enter into their field of expertise
while the aloof and confident one can become a nervous clod in an area where they have no experience and feel
overwhelmed. The trick is in what you show to others and there are a plethora of books on the subject.
The first
thing to learn is to understand who and what you are and to like yourself. The next is to watch others reactions and
act on those reactions. Things like eye contact and an erect body posture are very important.
It may not be my
business and feel free to say so but, are you also undergoing counseling for your disorder or is it strictly
medication? An experienced counselor could advise and guide you far better than most of us here.
DrSmellThis
07-04-2008, 06:01 PM
Bel gave some good
advice.
Self confidence is definitely something you can talk yourself into having.
Self confidence is often
misunderstood. You don't need to think "I'm great" or "I'm successful", or "I'm a stud". Of course, positive
self esteem helps a lot. But...
You can get rid of most of your insecurity without thinking anything about
yourself at all!
Usually if you are able to feel love for the other person, think positive things about them, get
rid of your fear of them, you will then have the guts and comfort to have some positive interactions with them. This
is still something I talk myself into quite often. Having some understanding toward another person, a stranger, is
a great thing to practice. Think about how they're probably a great person with good intentions; and feelings just
like yours, etc. Put yourself in their place, etc. Then all of a sudden they're a real human being to you, instead
of just an intimidating, sexy, object of desire, for example.
It just takes a minute of meditating on this to
produce the desired effect in yourself.
Taking the focus off yourself in that way actually will come across as a
kind of self confidence, because you are not self-conscious.
Thought I'd mention it, since it's probably
the most neglected, and yet still essential, part of self confidence. We are too focused on individualism in our
culture, IMHO; and that is only half the coin (of life, concept, identity, etc.). Here I am talking about the other
half.
I'd even go so far as to say that "self-confidence" without "the other half" is a shallow, fragile kind of
self confidence. You risk coming across as arrogant instead of confident, in that case, more often; or fake,
etc.
BTW Bel, MDMA is a recreational drug, otherwise known as "ecstasy"; not a mental condition. I've never
taken it, but hear it can sort of induce positive social feelings while high on it. The advice I am giving
MieDievil is about producing the same bottom line effect, I think, without the drug. Ecstasy can sometimes be
dangerous, if you are unlucky.
belgareth
07-04-2008, 07:17 PM
Doc:
I was giving him the
benefit of the doubt as he had earlier described himself as having a social disorder and stated that he had found a
medication that was helping him. It was my understanding that he was on a medication, which led to the next
assumption: That he was under a doctor's care. The MDMA was a side issue that I was not going to comment on. It's
been a long time since I used recreational drugs and that was one that was not readily available in my day, if it
even existed. So I am not qualified to comment on it. His body, his right to do as he will with it.
MDV:
The
good doc is right. The more you take yourself out of your own mental framework and try to understand the other
person, the better you'll feel about yourself. In most ways we are all alike. The guys who bully and ignore you are
doing so for their own egos. They think they can look big and brave in front of their friends by picking on you.
They are only showing you their fear of their so called friends. Those are people you would be far better off
without.
Rather than fear or hate them you should pity them for the small minded cowards they really are. They
have pretty much the same mindset as rapist, wife beaters, the skinheads, the klukkers and all the other mindless
haters in the world. If just once they come up against their physical equal or betters you'll get to see them
grovel and beg.
MeDieViL
07-05-2008, 05:55 AM
thx for the advice but i think
my social anxiety is fully caused by some sort of chemical imbalance, there is nothing wron with my thinking, i know
there is no reasen to be "afraid" and my anxiety seems to go up and down, it feels like a "barrier" around me that
just doesnt allow me to be myself
in fact i feel pretty good about myself, my anxiety isnt even gone when i take an
opiate or drink alcohol even ghb doesnt seem to work, so i'm pretty sure its something with my brains
my motor
coordination is horrible too (you know the sky kids that you see that really cant hit a ball when playing soccer:p)
when i took a psychedelic it was fixed, all drugs working on serotonin work
i am not really under docter care, i
just got medication prescribed from him, theres no therapy
They think they can look big and brave in front
of their friends by picking on you.i know, there suddenly came alot of new ppl in our group but most of them
dont like me, the older ones do, but it isnt as fun going away with them when the others are
around...
BTW Bel, MDMA is a recreational drug, otherwise known as "ecstasy"; not a mental condition.
I've never taken it, but hear it can sort of induce positive social feelings while high on it. The advice I am
giving MieDievil is about producing the same bottom line effect, I think, without the drug. Ecstasy can sometimes be
dangerous, if you are unlucky.i know alot about MDMA, its pretty safe when you drink alot and try to keep
yourself cool, xtc deads are related to body heat
offcourse i didnt have much self esteem before i used mdma, but
the day after mdma my anxiety is all gone, it didnt use to be that way the first weeks i took it, the chemical
anxiety was gone but i didnt have the self confidence, i builded that tough, and theres no sign of anxiety the day
after mdma now
idesign
07-05-2008, 07:14 AM
The most
shy person can become a prima donna when you enter into their field of expertise while the aloof and confident one
can become a nervous clod in an area where they have no experience and feel overwhelmed.
Bel gave some good advice.
Self confidence is definitely something you can
talk yourself into having.
You can get rid of most of your insecurity without thinking anything about yourself at
all!
Taking the focus off yourself in that way actually will come across as a kind of self confidence, because
you are not self-conscious.
I'd even go so far as to say that "self-confidence" without "the other half" is
a shallow, fragile kind of self confidence. You risk coming across as arrogant instead of confident, in that case,
more often; or fake, etc.
thx for the advice but i think my social anxiety is
fully caused by some sort of chemical imbalance, there is nothing wron with my thinking, i know there is no reasen
to be "afraid" and my anxiety seems to go up and down, it feels like a "barrier" around me that just doesnt allow me
to be myself
when i took a psychedelic it was fixed, all drugs working on serotonin work
i know alot about
MDMA, its pretty safe when you drink alot and try to keep yourself cool, xtc deads are related to body
heat
offcourse i didnt have much self esteem before i used mdma, but the day after mdma my anxiety is all gone,
it didnt use to be that way the first weeks i took it, the chemical anxiety was gone but i didnt have the self
confidence, i builded that tough, and theres no sign of anxiety the day after mdma now
I have more than a
little experience with that "barrier" MDV, and have always thought of it as a prison that kept my real personality
locked up.
You're right, confidence is only part of the problem. When your natural confidence evaporates at a
critical moment you wonder why.
The key for me lies in what Doc and Bel said, kind of converting inner
confidence into something usable socially. Bel's example is spot-on. I liken that scenario more to having
"security" than "confidence". If you are secure in your environment, you will be confident. In my work environment
there is built-in security and I'm in charge. Socially, I've had to find ways to anchor myself to something
solid, and what I've discovered works best is exactly what Doc said, other people.
If you shift your focus from
yourself, and become good at it, you're suddenly unaware of any problems with yourself. It takes some practice,
but its very liberating. You will project a quiet confidence people will find attractive. You won't be trying to
impress them, they'll enjoy the attention you pay to them and their interests, and you'll set yourself apart from
the goats.
Its a good skill to have in general as well.
MDV, when you say "psychedelic" did you mean
"psychotropic"? Acid or Prozac?
Unlike Bel, I don't mind saying that recreational chems are a really bad idea.
Sure, the immediate "benefits" are seductive, but if you have brain-chemical problems to begin with, you really
don't know what these things are doing up there in the long run, especially in conjunction with prescribed meds.
I'm not meaning to condemn you or your actions or anything MDV, its just my opinion. :)
Back to an earlier
question you had, many, many women find the kind of quiet, self-assured, outwardly focused confidence attractive.
Mix it with a little humor and your A7 will steer it sexual. But you have to lay the
groundwork.
You seem to be thinking a lot about various things relating to this stuff, that's a big advantage in
your favor.
MeDieViL
07-05-2008, 07:28 AM
i was talking about acid, the
effects MDMA has on the brain arent that bad, it makes your brain less sensitive to serotonin, but for me taking
MDMA weekly improved my life dramatically, i'm very interested in recreational drugs, and how they work, i know
their full mechanism of action, i also take piracetam a nootropic wich takes away any comedown mdma could
cause
If you are secure in your environment, you will be confident.true, i used to talk alot and
get lots of attention with my friends, but because of those new ppl i feel insecure and i'm very quiet
the
treatment i'm trying is very controversial to say the least:p
idesign
07-06-2008, 01:31 PM
//preaching on//
In my day it
was Coke, Ludes, Reds, Black Beauties, Yellow Jackets, Microdots, Yellow Sunshine etc etc. and of course pot and
alcohol. Of course we "knew what we were doing" and had figured out their "mechanism of action". What we did not
know was the cumulative effects of playing with brain chemistry on an ad hoc basis, and the effects on emotional
development, which is key. What I do know is that the ones who continued in that lifestyle were the
ones least capable of healthy social function, whether it be women or work, they eventually fell between the cracks.
At the time I would not have traded the thrills for a future, but I'm glad I eventually did.
//preaching
off//
As a recovering social cripple who has learned more than a little about how to function with a social
disability, I can only say that anything you can do to reform your inner thinking will do the most good. I
understand the need for a "bolstering" stimulus. I also understand that therapy, counseling and inner work has done
me more good than any med. Its the skills learned which enable good functioning in any environment,
no matter who the players are. A solid sense of "self" is critical, and it can only be found when you look for it,
and develop its inherent qualities. To the extent you mask it or artificially manipulate it, you will either
postpone its growth or lose it altogether. That would be sad.
I apologize for the seemingly harsh post MDV, esp
in this forum. Its just that you remind me of myself. Of course that could be an insult to you. :)
I promise
that any further replies will relate only to pheromones. :)
belgareth
07-06-2008, 01:58 PM
In support of ID:
I moved away
from the friends I had in the old partying days. After about 15 years I ran into one of my old friends and we spent
some time reminissing. He was still in touch with the remaining people from the old days. In total, of those that
stayed in the partying scene, about half were dead, the other half either in jail or pretty much just losers. The
were unemployed or under employed and making nothing of themselves.
It is your life to lead and I have no
problem with where you choose to go in your life. You can do whatever you like but reality is still reality. ID is
right about screwing with chemicals in an ad hoc manner. The claim you know what they do is nonsense because science
only knows a small portion of what they do. That's why they are still researching the brain, drugs and their
interaction. Hell, a doctor is guessing when he prescribes most of those drugs.
In any case, its your choice.
All I am saying is that you should make informed decisions but even that is your own business.
MeDieViL
07-07-2008, 05:05 AM
Thx for your replies, i know
what you guys are trying to say, i'm trying to use drugs in a responsible way, i dont think about themall the time,
and i took breaks before
now back onto the pheromones, i decided i'm gonna experiment with one product at the
time now and for now the "social" ones, and maybe when i go out the sexual ones
i'm gonna start with the chikara
gel packs for this week, i'l try dosages like 1/4 of a pack, 1/2 and maybe a full pack, i'm going to my work in a
few hours
MeDieViL
07-08-2008, 02:28 AM
yestersday i applied half a
pack when going to work, i noticed 2 things
theres a girl working there i allways look at so i case so looks back
i smile at here but usually she looks right next to me, this time she looked at me and smiled back
i work in an
supermarket and i was looking where to put some thingsi couldnt find at first and some stranger that works there at
the other side tried to help me finding it
idesign
07-08-2008, 07:42 PM
Those look like possible hits
MDV. Gradually increase your dose and you may get more action. I don't use gels as a rule, but have heard of a
full C7 pack getting good results. Good luck and have fun!
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