Old Scent Of Eros

[Numanoid]

I've got a little

bit of Scent Of Eros that's been sitting in my drawer for about 3 years now. Could it be the nol in it has

converted to none after so long?

[terry0400-40]

I've got a little bit of Scent Of Eros that's been sitting in my drawer for about 3

years now. Could it be the nol in it has converted to none after so long?I recon if it has been kept airtight it should be in original condition, especially if it has had

little use.

If it has been used as a rollon for many applications previously then there is a chance it may

have become contaminated by skin sweat or bacterial residues.
Otherwise give it a smell test see if ya can detect any aNONE smell, that is if ya have the nose

to detect aNONE.
If it hasn't had any conversion it should

smell pleasant and non offensive initially, and after 10 minutes or so you should not notice any smell if it is an

unscented version., or if scented then just a slightly pleasant fragrance.

[idesign]

Terry's probably right about

the storage issue. If its been in your drawer it should be OK.

I think, but could be wrong, that the -nol to

-none conversion happens on skin where there is a biological process with skin chemistry, which should not happen in

a bottle.

Like Terry said, give it a sniff. Its not scientific but will give you a clue. Does is smell like

SoE? Or NPA/TE...

[terry0400-40]

Just something i picked up in the cookbook.
Confirms Idesigns comments.
-nol to -none conversion

There have been a

lot of discussions in the forum about this issue... The truth is that the conversion from -nol to -none does happen,

but it won't be a big issue for -nol products users.

Androstenol (http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstenol.htm) (which is a

secondary alcohol) differs from

androstenone (http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstenone.htm) (which is

a ketone) because of two hydrogen atoms that the latter lacks: these can be converted to water if an adequate

catalyst is present. The chemical reaction would be as follows:

C19H30O

(androstenol (http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstenol.htm)) +

(oxygen) = C19H28O

(androstenone (http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstenone.htm)) +

H2O

Luckily, in the usual wearing conditions, there isn't a catalyst strong enough to make this reaction happen

fast, so the -nol will anyway convert to -none since it's exposed to oxidation, but it's going to happen very

slowly. To get the idea SoE, which contains -nol, is reported to first show signs of -none alteration only after 8

hours from first application.

[belgareth]

I doubt the carrier in SoE

would be a good environment for bacterial growth. It seems very likely that there has been little if any

conversion.

[idesign]

Just something i picked up in the

cookbook.
Confirms Idesigns comments.
-nol to

-none conversion

There have been a lot of discussions in the forum about this issue... The truth is that the

conversion from -nol to -none does happen, but it won't be a big issue for -nol products users.

Androstenol (http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstenol.htm) (which is a

secondary alcohol) differs from

androstenone (http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstenone.htm) (which is

a ketone) because of two hydrogen atoms that the latter lacks: these can be converted to water if an adequate

catalyst is present. The chemical reaction would be as follows:

C19H30O

(androstenol (http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstenol.htm)) +

(oxygen) = C19H28O

(androstenone (http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstenone.htm)) +

H2O

Luckily, in the usual wearing conditions, there isn't a catalyst strong enough to make this reaction happen

fast, so the -nol will anyway convert to -none since it's exposed to oxidation, but it's going to happen very

slowly. To get the idea SoE, which contains -nol, is reported to first show signs of -none alteration only after 8

hours from first application.

If this is correct, then all you have to worry about is build-up, which I

can't imagine being too much of a problem since diffusion occurs simultaneously with the conversion.

Not a bad

idea to keep build-up in mind though.

Thanks for the research Terry. :)

[terry0400-40]

If

this is correct, then all you have to worry about is build-up, which I can't imagine being too much of a problem

since diffusion occurs simultaneously with the conversion.

Not a bad idea to keep build-up in mind though.



Thanks for the research Terry. :)It was revealed to me when i read a reply

to a thread called "For everyone !!! " Mountain Jim did post a reply with instructions "click here" or something

similar if i recall,
So i am not quite as smart as ya think i am,

te he. :lol: PS now im really cooking :D

[Guy101]

Maybe that is why it is better to

use an eye drop bottles instead of the roll on bottles. It keeps the product fresh & clean & away from the skin

applications.

[terry0400-40]

Maybe

that is why it is better to use an eye drop bottles instead of the roll on bottles. It keeps the product fresh &

clean & away from the skin applications.Maby there is some truth also in the

assunption of Belgareth when he states :- Quote
"I doubt the carrier in SoE would be a good environment for

bacterial growth. It seems very likely that there has been little if any conversion." Unquote.

However whenever

i use it as a roll on i roll the amount needed on to a clean fingertip and then transfer it to the chosen

application area, this way i also judge the correct amount i have chosen to use.
Even though most of my

applications have been via a glass pheromone dropper and then transfered into a chosen mix with added aNONE and

choice of cologne ect.
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