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koolking1
06-07-2007, 05:45 AM
does anyone else feel like I
do, that he's just about the only hope we have left for the USA to get back to normal? He is doing extremely well
in on-line polls but the mainstream media shuffles him off to "nobody" status. I'm a lifelong Democrat but feel
they have also sold us out.
belgareth
06-07-2007, 06:22 AM
You surprise me but I think he
is one of the best possible choices announced so far. Does he have a chance against so many better known names? I
doubt it. It seems the better choices rarely do.
The sold out part is true across the board, democrat and
republican alike.
koolking1
06-07-2007, 08:07 AM
he's doing
extremely well in the online polls and I'd have to think that he does, in fact, have a chance. It seems like all
the "name" candidates have to make a sorta compulsory trip to Israel (Fred Thompson's on his way there as well) -
why is that?
belgareth
06-07-2007, 08:15 AM
With his record and attitude
I'd support him. Perhaps the American people have finally got sick of the business as usual crap and are willing to
vote for something new. I certainly wouldn't mind being wrong about his chances of winning. I'm just having a
cynical period right now. It started about 20 years ago but will wane eventually.
koolking1
06-07-2007, 08:37 AM
about time
I did something to help and have joined the campaign for Ron Paul, I'm also going to contribute finanacially.
Interestingly, here in NH, interest in member groups show Guilianni with 6 members, Clinton with 8 members, draft Al
Gore with with 16, other notables with less but then the kicker Ron Paul with 165.
koolking1
06-07-2007, 08:40 AM
here's the
stats:
Popular Topics in Candidates
Ron Paul 2008
235 Meetup Groups
Draft Al Gore
105 Meetup
Groups
Barack Obama
67 Meetup Groups
John Kerry
46 Meetup Groups
John Edwards / One America
42 Meetup Groups
Dennis Kucinich
41 Meetup Groups
Hillary Rodham Clinton
30 Meetup Groups
Wesley Clark
7 Meetup Groups
Draft Mark Warner
6 Meetup Groups
George W. Bush
4 Meetup
Groups
Draft Fred Thompson for President
2 Meetup Groups
Ralph Nader
2 Meetup Groups
Draft Russ
Feingold
2 Meetup Groups
John McCain
2 Meetup Groups
David Gereighty for Congress
2 Meetup
Groups
Looks promising.
belgareth
06-07-2007, 09:25 AM
It does look promising. We can
all hope he can win and get started on setting things right.
Anybody trying to put us back on the right path is
going to have one hell of a fight from the rest of the government though. Twenty some years ago there was a movement
in California that I felt was worthwhile but it died of apathy. It was called DRIP for Don't Return Incumbant
Politicians.
Bruce
06-07-2007, 09:58 AM
For those (like myself) who
don't/didn't know much about the guy, click here for some quick background
info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul
I'm a lifelong democrat myself, but I think I might vote
for this guy in the primary at least. Then we either get Paul or a dem. The republicans should back this guy, it
is their only hope this time around. Yeah, and maybe the countries only hope; who knows.
koolking1
06-07-2007, 10:27 AM
"Could
Presidential candidate and Congressman Ron Paul (R-Tex) win the Republican national primary in New Hampshire? If he
did so, the momentum would be significant – and the press coverage massive - as New Hampshire may be the first state
to hold a formal election, even beating out the Iowa caucus.
“Ron Paul could win in New Hampshire,” says a
source close to the campaign. “It would be an explosive political act – one that would devastate the common wisdom.
The mainstream media hasn't realized it yet, but folks in New Hampshire take him seriously.”
Ron
Paul could use a win in New Hampshire to provide momentum in other states – especially if New Hampshire positions
itself as the nation's first primary again. The state actually has considerable flexibility in terms of setting a
primary. The system allows state officials to wait right up to the last minute before they commit to a date. It's
possible that the primary could be held in the second week of January, or even earlier, in December 07. This may
explain why the Ron Paul campaign is not putting a lot of emphasis on Iowa but has just hired a campaign manager in
New Hampshire with considerable professional experience.
While the Ron Paul campaign isn't commenting on
any moves, New Hampsher-ites likely sat up and took notice recently when James "The Primary Source" Pindell reported
that "Former New Hampshire state Representative Barbara Hagan of Manchester endorsed Texas Congressman Ron Paul's
presidential campaign and will organize outreach to the state's pro-life community."
http://www.boston.com/news...
Hagan is a powerful figure in New Hampshire politics, and
her backing means that Ron Paul has made substantial inroads into the conservative wing of the GOP in New Hampshire.
However, even the conservative wing of the GOP in New Hampshire is more liberal than most in the classical sense. In
fact, both GOP-ers and the state's huge independent group of votes tend, opinion-wise toward small government, low
taxes and free-market solutions.
That's why Ron Paul's message has appeal – and why he could gain
momentum. In fact, the maverick conservative-populist Patrick Buchanan won the state's Republican nomination in
1996, defeating Senator Bob Dole by about 3,000 votes. Wikipedia describes it this way:
At a rally in
Nashua, he said, "We shocked them in Alaska. Stunned them in Louisiana. Stunned them in Iowa. They are in a terminal
panic. They hear the shouts of the peasants from over the hill. All the knights and barons will be riding into the
castle pulling up the drawbridge in a minute. All the peasants are coming with pitchforks. We're going to take this
over the top." While campaigning, Buchanan energized his supporters with the slogan "The peasants are coming with
pitchforks", occasionally appearing with a prop pitchfork, thus earning him the nickname "Pitchfork Pat."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan
Ultimately, as the above excerpt shows,
Buchanan chose to run in the American “populist” tradition. Ron Paul, a true political throwback, is doing no such
thing. He is, instead, grounded in the timeless tenets of Thomas Jefferson's agrarian republicanism. He is a
constitutional scholar, an admirable polemicist and principled politician. His fundamental beliefs are actually
those upon which the country was founded - and from which he believes it has grievously and dangerously strayed.
People who actually get to hear his message about small government, lower taxes and free markets often
appreciate the fundamental moral conviction of his message. It is quickly clear that Dr. Paul is no normal
politician. He is known, for instance, as “Dr. No” in Congress because he will not vote for any measure that he
believes is unconstitutional.
As heir to Thomas Jefferson's thought, Ron Paul is far more dangerous to the
political elite than Buchanan ever was. Buchanan could not take his message from the fringe to the mainstream. He
marginalized himself consciously or unconsciously.
Ron Paul is no marginal figure. Should he get beyond New
Hampshire – and likely long before that - his message may command considerable resonance in the public arena. It
already does on the Internet, and for good reason."
belgareth
06-07-2007, 12:06 PM
You might be interested in
this. The campaign's profit isn't much but "Spreading the Word" could be a help.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=110135462085&Category=39723
koolking1
06-08-2007, 10:22 AM
"GOP
Ron Paul - Five Million Dollar Man?
Thursday, June 07, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com
Congressman Ron
Paul’s donations have moved up - not by hundreds of thousands - but by millions as a result of his debate
performances and groundswell of support on the Internet and in New Hampshire, observers close to the campaign say.
The move is especially impressive since as of March 31, 2007, he had perhaps $500,000 on hand (see candidate
estimates below).
FMNN had previously reported – after the GOP presidential debate in South Carolina - that
candidate Ron Paul’s (R-Tex) donations, large and small, had nearly
doubled.
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=42336
Now observers close to the
campaign are revealing – with some astonishment – that donations to the campaign in recent weeks have pushed the
total up to perhaps $4 or $5 million.
“That’s a huge number at this stage,” says one observer. “That starts
to put him in a position where he can compete – state by state, anyway – with the major candidates.”
And
this source added, “Of course, it’s hard to tell because the numbers keep changing – and thus nobody at the campaign
has a firm count, at least not hour to hour. But the numbers are big. It’s definitely over three, probably over
four, and if it hasn’t hit five yet, it will soon.”
At this rate, say observers, Ron Paul could have
something like $10 million in his coffers inside of several months, and the total could keep growing – so long as he
continues to hit on themes that Americans support – how to return the country to a true, small government,
constitutional republic and how to end the war in Iraq.
To be sure such amounts are somewhat speculative.
But to put the amount of money Ron Paul is said to have raised recently in perspective, here are the figures of cash
on hand for GOP candidates as of March 31,
2007:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/money/gop.html
Sam Brownback
cash-on-hand:
$806,626
Jim Gilmore
cash-on-hand: $90,107
Rudy Giuliani
cash-on-hand: $11,949,735
Mike
Huckabee
cash-on-hand: $373,918
Duncan Hunter
cash-on-hand: $272,552
John
McCain
cash-on-hand: $5,180,799
Ron Paul
cash-on-hand: $524,919
Mitt Romney
cash-on-hand:
$11,863,653
Tom Tancredo
cash-on-hand: $575,078
Tommy Thompson
cash-on-hand:
$139,723
Source: CNN
Staff Reports - Free-Market News Network"
rollercoaster
06-11-2007, 08:09 AM
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/afftfblog.html
keeps pretty good track on whats happening with ron
pauls campaign, also the movie found here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173&hl=en
is a must see for all americans,
they also have a short interview with ron paul in it.
EDIT
the blog seams to be down.
idesign
07-04-2007, 02:31 PM
RP seems to be a classic
Libertarian with some Populist notes. Much of what he has to say is spot-on, and nobody would disagree with most of
it but, unfortunately, his total message and presentation puts him on the fringe. I don't think he's electable,
but he'd be a good protest vote.
Its too bad, these issues should be debated meaningfully among candidates, but
the media holds the real debate captive, and encourages the sickening "moderate" view which, to me, is a euphemism
for lack of vision and leadership.
But we do know that Hillary wants to rule the world. Blech!!
smooth312
01-31-2008, 03:23 AM
BUMP!
Great to see some Ron
Paul support on here!
\o/
Ron Paul is my hero, honestly. He's a real American hero and should win a Nobel
Prize if he doesn't win the US Presidency.
I was never interested in politics - he cured my apathy, and it's
probably because he isn't much of a traditional "politician" like the others.
I've even donated to his
campaign and spent entire days walking my precinct to spread the word, wave signs...things I would have never done,
ever.
The Revolution is catching on everyday, and the message is growing stronger. With Rudy out of the race,
Huckabee soon to be gone, and McCain losing money, Ron not only has a chance, he can win this thing.
I think lame
stream media does not cover him because he is such a threat. They know he can whoop everyone if they give him
balanced coverage. They are afraid of him, it's so obvious.
Nevada is proof of this, where he and Romney were
the only 2 candidates to advertise on TV. Now, just think if they showed Dr. Paul's face on TV like they do for
all the other candidates...he would be winning by a landslide.
Yet, they have to resort to ignoring him, and
every mention of him has to include "long shot" or some other term to slander his clearly growing support.
Each
week there are more new donors, etc. He pretty much had won LA if they hadn't changed the rules 2 days before the
primary.
There is no clear frontrunner in the GOP, and I seriously think Paul can win it because of that.
Whatever you guys do, please spread the word. Tell as many people as you can about him.
Freedom is
popular!
theman03
04-07-2008, 02:24 PM
whats the first thing
that comes to mind?
koolking1
04-08-2008, 04:17 AM
.....................................honesty
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