the debate: is it an OD or am i not acting congurently with the none signature?

[jeremiahjames]

MESSY NIGHT AT COMEDY SHOW MORPHS INTO HITS: THE MYSTERIOUS

NATURE OF NONE:

so i'm wearing 1 drop NPA with CK obsession, dabbed on so no accurate ratios, and the girls were

kinda freaked out. we were at a comedy show and we couldnt sit with the 3 girls as there wasnt enuff room....so, we

sit 2 rows behind our dates and already the good vibes and energies r going southward.

my friend reckons they got

on famously with him, but i was giving off a weird, nervous, uncofident energy, that, combined with the NPA,

completely weirded 'em out. i DID ntpoice tehy were relxed around my friend, yet awkward around me. tehse girls

were Anglo and i struggle 2 get positive reactions with none around Anglo's, ie. caucasian, pale skin, brtish or

australian.

so, i hadnt worn NPA for 2 days, and at 1 drop, is this:
a. a result of incongruent behaviour, ie.

acting all shy and non-alpha, a guy with no frame, even though he's wearing none?

or, b. a none OD - plain and

simple?

as a side-note, 2 hours later, got very positive results at a bar, and a Latino girl number closes ME,

[which rarely happens 2 me:)]...another drunk girls from Germany gave me 1 of those scenarios where it was ON within

30 secs and caught me off guard.

so, i am bemused. 1st 2 hrs. after application and disastrous awkward

socialising with spacing at an intimate, relaxed comedy venue. never heard from these girls again....(:

2hrs.

further on, rowdy drunken bar...2 solid hits.

POINTS TO CONSIDER with none based on this experience: [ and just

my opinion and experience]

1. i find i get mostly consistently GOOD hits with None products [Npa, Ammo etc.] - if

the target is Latino, Brasilian, African, and Mediterranean [ french, spanish].

2. Indifferent - Northern Europe

and Caucasian [eg. german, Dutch]

3. Mostly bad - Anglo [british, australian, south african etc.] especially if

pale skin, blonde hair, blue eyes]

4. mayb the None had 2 settle down 1st? so, by the 3rd hr. the hits were

better?

5. having an Alpha signature requires Alpha behaviour, whether u feel up to it or not, other wise the

girls get weirded out.

[Madshader]

You know, that's a very

interesting observation. I have similar results while wearing -none as well. I am 31 yrs old, half anglo/half asian.

I noticed that I get positive hits from hispanics and asians but the anglo girls with blonde hair and light eyes

seem to avoid me while on -none. It's peculiar...but when I'm not wearing mones at all, the blondes are very

relaxed and social with me. I wonder if there is a genetic disposition for this, and if there is a better mone-mix

for blondes vs brunettes, or if it's a anglos vs hispanic/asian/etc thing...

I'd REALLY like to test this

further as I am partial to bondes and want to make sure I'm doing my mones right... anyone else experiencing

similar patterns??

[Rbt]

jeremiahjames: we could give you

better answers to your post especially in regard to the reactions you get from different racial groups and ages if

you could also include details about yourself, like racial group and age...
:lol:

You may have mentioned your

own "specifications" elsewhere on the forum, but it's often best to re-state them when posting a thread with a

question like this. Also any other pertinent information like overall moods, if alcohol (or other) was involved

etc.

[tounge]

It seems to me that the most

obvious observations are, that NPA needs to settle down awhile before becoming useful and girls that are drunk or

tipsy are more likely to react favorably to None.

[Gmoney]

NPA is notorious for being easy

to OD on, have you tried TE, or something with less mones? Might be easier to judge where your limit is.

Also,

I think I remember someone saying that if you don't act the part, someone who does and is near you will get the

attention. The mones I have tried so far have definitely helped me act more the part though, definitely stepped up

my internally as well.

[photoguy]

Also,

I think I remember someone saying that if you don't act the part, someone who does and is near you will get the

attention. The mones I have tried so far have definitely helped me act more the part though, definitely stepped up

my internally as well.

I agree, I use NPA quite a bit, being a newbie and not knowing all the details of

fine application, i have probably used too much several times. I do find that I display a more alpha aura when using

NPA. I am not intimidated by alphas as i would usually be while not wearing any. (BTW first post, age 48 white

male:rofl: )

[idesign]

Welcome photoguy! Yep, NPA is

hard to dose, but if you pay close attention you can learn from your ODs and, like you say, refine your application.

Some like to actually mix NPA with cologne, something like a 5:1 ratio. That would make it easier to dose.

You're using a cover scent I assume.

For me, I've gotten TE and A7 which are less potent and easier to dose.

At 48 though, you should be able to wear a heavier dose, but that's not certain until you find your limit.



You, jj and Gmoney made a good remark about "stepping up" to the situation and putting yourself forward.



What other -mones do you have? Rounding out your signature with -rol and/or-rone will help.

[idesign]

It seems to

me that the most obvious observations are, that NPA needs to settle down awhile before becoming useful and girls

that are drunk or tipsy are more likely to react favorably to None.

Agree, and have experienced both of

those situations. Personally, I like any application to settle for at least a half-hour to an hour before going

out. Apply the cover last, just before leaving home.

Drunk/tipsy girls... Lowered or absent inhibitions...

opening up the pheromone pipeline to the horny button? I think there's something to that.

[photoguy]

At this time I only have NPA,

WAGG and Chikara. I usually apply a couple of drops (mini spashes from the bottle) of NPA and anywhere from one to

four mists of Chikara. I haven't used the WAGG much.

Last night I used approximately 1-2 drops of NPA and 3-4

mists of scented chkara (I love that scent). I also boosted with 2 more misted of chikara about 4 hours into thew

evening.

Last night I had a noticable set of experiences at a club. I went with my hot looking, little female

friend , 32,(whom I have been just friends with for nearly 10 years). She was acting out of character, giving me a

lot of hand contact, deep looks and at one point got right under my arm as the band was playing. She got a call from

her FWB buddy while we were having breakfast after the show, I made a comment about his strange request and she told

me she was open to other offers, which was again uncharacteristic, I just smiled and let her finish her night as she

planned...:frustrate

Back at the club, another woman, late twenties, kept standing very close to me. From the

corner of my eye, I could see that she just kept looking at me and not just watching the band. Stayed for about 5

minutes (1-2 songs) each time then went back to her BF or date. She did this 3 or 4 times during the course of the

evening. I showed no interest as she was with someone.

the third one was a married woman that was there with her

husband. Stood next to me watching the band, then decided to put her hand on my shoulder and pull me down to talk in

my ear (live band playing)...talked to me non-stop for about 5 minutes and in that time told me that her husband got

soooo boring right after they got married....:run: within a few more minutes he pulled her away and pulled her out

the door.

Today.

Had old NPA on from last night, and misted 2 times with Chikara before meeting her.



Back to female friend, today we went shopping. As she looked at households and stuff for her place she kept saying

"we" instead of "I" for the things she wanted or needed. Again she hasn't ever spoken in that manner before.



There are some general differences I have noticed in her behavior since I began using these products about 4 weeks

ago. Since we have been friends for so long, there was always a line neither of us crossed when it came to

conversation, but in the past couple of weeks, she and I have been engaged in a lot of sexual innuendo and verbal

teasing. Again it all started when I began using the products.

The interesting thing is, I am almost the exact

opposite of the type of guy she is attracted to. The best description would be that she is kind of a groupie and

like the long haired musicians and I have the general appearance of a hippie geek Grateful Dead follower. I am

older, she likes younger, I am showing my age in the gut and she likes the six pack. Although I do have longer hair,

that never affected her in these ways before.

Would really be nice to get her to become more than friends. We

know each other very well and there isn't much about her I do not like. I will be trying A7 and SOE. I would like

to get a really sexually charged combo to see if I can get her to cross the last line of her own will. Any

recommendations?

I havent noticed any OD effects with any amount I have used but I do know I have applied much

more NPA than I have ever seen recommended here.


BTW All females were light skinned Euro decent.

Female

Friend is of Irish decent

[Madshader]

It sounds to me that you

already have her sexually charged. The rest is up to you and what you say/do. I would say there is no need to mess

with the mix you already got going. However, i've noticed that it works well for me to only use -none every other

day so as to avoid build up.