View Full Version : Help the newb please
TheotherGuy
12-28-2007, 12:55 AM
Hello, im glad i can finally post. Anyway, i am new to the pheromone cologne thing and am trying to figure
out whats best for me. I almost bought pherlure until i read about it in your forums. it doesn't work right? anyway
im not looking for a love potion, im only looking for something to make me a little more interesting (i.e. more eye
contact, conversations dating etc.) Im 16, 6'4 and around 230lb. i may be an alpha, because i can be a leader, or a
follower. I dont really know, suggestions?
belgareth
12-28-2007, 05:51 AM
As big as you are you probably
want to stay away from high -none products like PI, TE/NPA and such. You are probably able to intimidate already.
SoE and Chikara both come in gel packs, which are cheap and easy to use for testing purposes. Try those first.
Are you in decent shape? How do you dress? Grooming? Can you hold a conversation and make a girl laugh? Are you
overly shy? Those are all things that add into your success or failure with mones.
Bruce
12-28-2007, 08:52 AM
I gotta ditto what Bel says,
especially the social stuff. If you are in your 30s or younger and in at least decent shape with that physique, I
would concentrate on the social skills, especially the smile and friendliness. Otherwise you can come off scary and
the alpha mones will only make that worse. In my younger years I was fairly fit and looked OK otherwise, but was
dogged with a "lone wolf" sort of look.
TheotherGuy
12-28-2007, 10:07 AM
As
big as you are you probably want to stay away from high -none products like PI, TE/NPA and such. You are probably
able to intimidate already. SoE and Chikara both come in gel packs, which are cheap and easy to use for testing
purposes. Try those first.
Are you in decent shape? How do you dress? Grooming? Can you hold a conversation and
make a girl laugh? Are you overly shy? Those are all things that add into your success or failure with
mones.
k, i am not in great physical shape, but lately i have been losing weight. I dress like a skate
boarder and shower daily. If i have something in common with a girl i can seem to hold a conversation and make her
laugh. Ive had this and had almost asked her out when she gave me the "lets just be friends". i am not overly shy
but i seem to have a harder time making friends than most. This could possible be that where i go to school is 98%
Mormon and basically all the social events involve religion in some way, so i am kind of the outsider. I went on a
cruise and made friends with practically everyone my age on the boat so that leads me to believe that its more the
religion where i live, not myself. It also happened on the cruise that the girl i hung out with the most went after
another guy in our little group. anyway, i am not overly shy, but when i get to the verge asking a girl out, i
either chicken out or the girl basicaly tells me shes not interested.
DanTHEman
12-28-2007, 10:16 AM
Hey there. I've been away
from the forum for a while now, but your posting reminds me of when I was a newby myself. After some time of trial,
error and success, I had placed several posts regarding my own experiences. You might want to check out this post
which also includes links to some of my other posts. They are older posts, but they still stand true, at least for
me.
http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?p=136816#post136816
belgareth
12-28-2007, 10:39 AM
I grew up a mormon and attended
the church for a long time. The do have some idiosyncrasies and I'd imagine it is worse in an area predominantly
morman. But I can also tell you that girls are girls everywhere and all respond to certain things regardless. I can
tell you of more than a few times sneaking off with one or another girl for some polite fondling and other
activities while we were supposed to be in church.
I live in Texas now, part of the bible belt, and most people
here are southern baptist. It makes little difference. I had this tall, slim, 40-ish blond the other day telling me
about her husband and her being memebrs of such and such a church a few minutes before she started telling me when
her kids wouldn't be around and she'd be free..."And what are you doing this afternoon?" A good looking woman and
very tempting!
Look around you. There are going to be others that don't belong to the church, nice girls that
are church members but don't care about it and a bunch of in-between types. Forget about the church, in other
words. It's a false obsticle and shouldn't stand in your way unless you let it. You have the benefit of being
different, unusual and even forbidden fruit.
TheotherGuy
12-28-2007, 11:25 AM
I
grew up a mormon and attended the church for a long time. The do have some idiosyncrasies and I'd imagine it is
worse in an area predominantly morman. But I can also tell you that girls are girls everywhere and all respond to
certain things regardless. I can tell you of more than a few times sneaking off with one or another girl for some
polite fondling and other activities while we were supposed to be in church.
I live in Texas now, part of the
bible belt, and most people here are southern baptist. It makes little difference. I had this tall, slim, 40-ish
blond the other day telling me about her husband and her being memebrs of such and such a church a few minutes
before she started telling me when her kids wouldn't be around and she'd be free..."And what are you doing this
afternoon?" A good looking woman and very tempting!
Look around you. There are going to be others that don't
belong to the church, nice girls that are church members but don't care about it and a bunch of in-between types.
Forget about the church, in other words. It's a false obsticle and shouldn't stand in your way unless you let it.
You have the benefit of being different, unusual and even forbidden fruit.
wow, you do have a good point. i
am different, especially that i dress different and have different views. i used to have more friends at my school
but it seems all the non mormon rebels have been kicked out. Im starting to adapt and make mormon friends, and like
you said, there are some that go to church but dont like it, meaning i could potentially be even more appealing. I
mean, i have a nice car, money and a good personality (i think) what more could a girl possibly want? you know
perhaps i am setting my standards to high? it seems the girls i am attracted to are out of my league and the ones im
not attracted to would be easier to get... hmm psychoanalyzing myself now... i think its time to post
belgareth
12-28-2007, 11:48 AM
Stop worrying so much about the
best looking, hottest girls. Every guy in school is chasing them and they already have 'No!' in their mind before
you even get near them. Start thinking about the decent girls that are fun to be around and you have less
competition to work against. They'll enjoy the attention and are often much nicer people.
Bruce
12-28-2007, 03:33 PM
Bel,
Yeah, "wow" is right.
Interesting points, but I never knew you grew up a Mormon. We live on the edge of a Mormon enclave surrounding the
largest church in the area. They are great folks to have as neighbors and I always give a warm welcome to the
missionaries when they come knocking, but I couldn't imagine trying to find a gf amounst them without joining the
church. I think if I were single and lived in a 98% saturated area, I would just join the church.
Anyway,
really got to ditto the:
"Stop worrying so much about the best looking, hottest girls. Every guy in school is
chasing them and they already have 'No!' in their mind before you even get near them. Start thinking about the
decent girls that are fun to be around and you have less competition to work against. They'll enjoy the attention
and are often much nicer people."
Couldn't add a word to that.
B
belgareth
12-28-2007, 04:52 PM
Bel,
Yeah, "wow" is right. Interesting points, but I never knew you grew up a Mormon. We live on the edge of a Mormon
enclave surrounding the largest church in the area. They are great folks to have as neighbors and I always give a
warm welcome to the missionaries when they come knocking, but I couldn't imagine trying to find a gf amounst them
without joining the church. I think if I were single and lived in a 98% saturated area, I would just join the
church.
Yeah, one of my deepest kept secrets. Even taught MIA (if they still call it that) and that was
where I went through boy scouts. The mormon church has a lot of good points, but a few bad ones as well.
Had a
falling out with the church when the bishop and my mother decided I was going to go on a mission. I enlisted in the
army instead. That was a llong time ago and my wanderings have taken me elsewhere.
TheotherGuy
12-28-2007, 06:44 PM
Bel,
Yeah, "wow" is right. Interesting points, but I never knew you grew up a Mormon. We
live on the edge of a Mormon enclave surrounding the largest church in the area. They are great folks to have as
neighbors and I always give a warm welcome to the missionaries when they come knocking, but I couldn't imagine
trying to find a gf amounst them without joining the church. I think if I were single and lived in a 98% saturated
area, I would just join the church.
Anyway, really got to ditto the:
"Stop worrying so much about the best
looking, hottest girls. Every guy in school is chasing them and they already have 'No!' in their mind before you
even get near them. Start thinking about the decent girls that are fun to be around and you have less competition to
work against. They'll enjoy the attention and are often much nicer people."
Couldn't add a word to
that.
B
Oh yes, mormons can be some of the nicest people around and have great family values and stuff.
i have been toying with the idea of going to church, and the girls would think it was there duty to god to convert
me, so dating would be much more likely than being the rebel non church going guy. You just dont want to get
baptized though, after that you are part of the mormon church forever. It so strict around here, if a boy gets a
lawn mowing job and doesnt tithe, the bishop will find out from someone and the bishop and the family will have a
talk and make him pay. They will even get your earnings from a local business and send you your bill. thats just one
little nugget, but i dont want this post to be a bash on the church.i just dont believe what the church teaches and
hate all the control they have over your life. ugh. where i live sucks. anyway i am thinking about ordering some
(chikara?) gel packs to see if i notice anything.
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