Good idea or bad idea?

[vendettaseve]

Half a

packet of SOE and half a packet of Chickara, This a good idea or a bad one? Iv used them both as stand alones with a

reasonable ammount of sucess, so im pondering a combo.
Thanks
V

--Results

Sorry this took so long guys my

net went down for a few weeks unexplainably, Turns out I need to pay them to keep it working, Anywho.
I wore a full

gel pack of Chikara, spread over my forearms and a the leftovers onto my chest, Then took half a gelpack of SoE and

spread it over my neck/under the ears.

Turns out for me, this is a brilliant way to get the invisables, I spoke

to several females of my own age ( 20 ) Whom ignored me and walked away. This is strange as Im usualy good looking

enugh to keep them around for a chat, Phero's just help put them in my lap lol. Altho It depends on the last time I

shaved, the day after I shave seems to be magic, the day of is crap and the days after that second day are

indifferent. But anywho I digress, In my last act of desperation, I went and talked to some store employee chicks (I

was at the mall) I got cold compliance, A very what do you want so I can give it to you and you can leave sort of

idea.

These are my results, a bad reaction I think, If anyone has any thoughts please let me know :)
V

[belmont]

should be fine but the smell

might be to ostrong...

[Iaskalotof?'s]

Give it a shot.

[BGuy20]

Never hurts to experiment. :)

[gaf]

I used to often use a mix of SOE &

Chikara , not gel packs but in the following ratio:
8-10 inches unscented SOE rolled on
2-3 sprays unscented

chikara
(cover with cologne of the day.)

Always a "friendly mix" when dealing with others , made me the good guy

at work.

[Gorgar]

Half a packet of SOE and half a packet of Chickara, This a good idea or a bad one? Iv

used them both as stand alones with a reasonable ammount of sucess, so im pondering a

combo.
Thanks
V

This to me is a good mix, I've tried it with a dash of TE. I'm 44 yrs old and the

crowd I was with was mainly 30-60ish. I dare say it would probably do well for the younger crowd as well. The

results I got was a general feel good vibe on myself and the folks around me.

Give it a shot and please post your

results.

edit: I'll be using this mix again tonight. I'm down to my last packet of Chikara but I still have a

few SOE packets.

[Gorgar]

Here is the rundown of what

happened Sat night.

Our club held a fund raiser and we were expecting a large crowd. About 30 minutes before kick

off I went up to my room and applied approx 1/4 pack of SOE to the sides of my neck and about the same amount of

chikara to the backs of my hands. I also applied 1 drop of PI under my chin so I wouldn't come across as too laid

back. I'm 44 yrs old so I didn't expect it to be overpowering or too sexual.

I went down to the bar and had a

convo with one of the club members, 50ish lady, looks younger, very attractive. She was feeling blue so I tried to

cheer her up a bit. We talked for a bit and she hugged me a few times (friendly hugs). Her SO eventually arrived and

they gave me a rundown of their personal problems, then they went off together. I wasn't expecting a briefing on

their personal life.

The lady to my left talked my ear off as well. She's 60ish, had a twinkle in her eye and

told me a lot of personal details. I couldn't chat for long however, as I had to make sure both bars were kept

stocked with beer, booze and ice.

A lady I've never met before approached me with raffle tickets. Hot 40ish,

nice rack and a tight pair of slacks, very chatty. I bought some raffle tickets. :) I would meet her again later on

at the back bar. We chatted a few moments at the bar and she told me her bra size for some reason, 36d if I recall

correctly. A gentleman came up on the other side of her and ordered a beer and she asked if he wanted any raffle

tickets. I had my right leg on the rail and as she turned to deal out the tickets she was rubbing her ass all over

my leg. Sometimes I wish I were single...

A while later I was having a convo with my father and a woman

approached, mid 40's pleasingly plump, and introduced herself to me. She had a very warm smile and we chatted a

bit. Dad was looking at me funny after that and told me to be careful... My wife had elected to stay home that night

but I remained a good boy.

Many smiles and shoulder pats and general goodwill through the night from perfect

strangers. Alcohol certainly a factor but this crowd, mostly middle aged like myself, wasn't boozing it up very

hard. The mones I was wearing gave me a nice confident feel. All in all it was a good night for the mones. I'm

waiting on a bottle of A314, can't wait to give it a test run next weekend.

[terry0400-40]

Here

is the rundown of what happened Sat night.

Our club held a fund raiser and we were expecting a large crowd.

About 30 minutes before kick off I went up to my room and applied approx 1/4 pack of SOE to the sides of my neck and

about the same amount of chikara to the backs of my hands. I also applied 1 drop of PI under my chin so I wouldn't

come across as too laid back. I'm 44 yrs old so I didn't expect it to be overpowering or too sexual.

I went

down to the bar and had a convo with one of the club members, 50ish lady, looks younger, very attractive. She was

feeling blue so I tried to cheer her up a bit. We talked for a bit and she hugged me a few times (friendly hugs).

Her SO eventually arrived and they gave me a rundown of their personal problems, then they went off together. I

wasn't expecting a briefing on their personal life.

The lady to my left talked my ear off as well. She's

60ish, had a twinkle in her eye and told me a lot of personal details. I couldn't chat for long however, as I had

to make sure both bars were kept stocked with beer, booze and ice.

A lady I've never met before approached me

with raffle tickets. Hot 40ish, nice rack and a tight pair of slacks, very chatty. I bought some raffle tickets. :)

I would meet her again later on at the back bar. We chatted a few moments at the bar and she told me her bra size

for some reason, 36d if I recall correctly. A gentleman came up on the other side of her and ordered a beer and she

asked if he wanted any raffle tickets. I had my right leg on the rail and as she turned to deal out the tickets she

was rubbing her ass all over my leg. Sometimes I wish I were single...

A while later I was having a convo with

my father and a woman approached, mid 40's pleasingly plump, and introduced herself to me. She had a very warm

smile and we chatted a bit. Dad was looking at me funny after that and told me to be careful... My wife had elected

to stay home that night but I remained a good boy.

Many smiles and shoulder pats and general goodwill through

the night from perfect strangers. Alcohol certainly a factor but this crowd, mostly middle aged like myself, wasn't

boozing it up very hard. The mones I was wearing gave me a nice confident feel. All in all it was a good night for

the mones. I'm waiting on a bottle of A314, can't wait to give it a test run next weekend.A314 not bad stuff, took me several months to notice it working and then bingo action stations it all

started happening.

With 3 drops i get trust and respect but people keep their didtance, Two drops suit me well

anytime, one drop with some nice cologne is good for Asian girls, and two drops with a drop of Alpha 7 keeps women

at a distance and very curious but start a conversation and they will hang in till you can shake them off or take

them home easily with this mix.
The A314 x 2 dr + A7 x 1 dr mix

cannot go un noticed as it seems to get me action and or respect from m+f even when i sit back in the corner and try

and keep a low profile. :wub: :whip:

[Gorgar]

Terry, thanks for the heads up on

the A314. I think this stuff may be what I'm looking for. I'll know for sure after a few rounds of

testing.

Aren't mones fun?

[shawnk3]

Vendettaseve-- Please do post

your results. My understanding is that Chikara and SOE are very similar in that they're "friendly" products (as

opposed to the none-heavy sexual products). If that's the case, wouldn't it be redundant to wear both of

them?

Regardless, I'm looking forward to your results as I purchased a new bottle of Chikara and it has DONE

NOTHING for me. I'm thinking of returning it but if it can be used as a combo with SOE, I'll keep it.

thanks

[terry0400-40]

Vendettaseve-- Please do post your results. My understanding is that Chikara and SOE are very

similar in that they're "friendly" products (as opposed to the none-heavy sexual products). If that's the case,

wouldn't it be redundant to wear both of them?

Regardless, I'm looking forward to your results as I purchased

a new bottle of Chikara and it has DONE NOTHING for me. I'm thinking of returning it but if it can be used as a

combo with SOE, I'll keep it.

thanksAlso my Chikara is doing nothing 4

me it never has, even with some added Androstenone.

I have made a batch up using a spray of

Chikara + a drop of Androstenone @ 6.50 mcg. + 10" SOE. have a weeks supply and will run it this weekend and post

up if successful. :thumbsup:

[gaf]

Vendettaseve--

Please do post your results. My understanding is that Chikara and SOE are very similar in that they're "friendly"

products (as opposed to the none-heavy sexual products). If that's the case, wouldn't it be redundant to wear

both of them?

Maybe, but it works for me and countless others. Do a search and see what others have to

say about it. (meant in the politest manner)

:thumbsup:

later:
should mention it seems to work best with

under 30's woman and guys in general for me.

[shawnk3]

Maybe, but it

works for me and countless others. Do a search and see what others have to say about it. (meant in the politest

manner)

:thumbsup:

later:
should mention it seems to work best with under 30's woman and guys in general

for me.


Thanks gaf. Can you please share your usage technique? Also, if you use it in combination

with other products, how do you know whether the desired effects are resulting from Chikara or the other

products?

thanks

[gaf]

Thanks gaf.

Can you please share your usage technique? Also, if you use it in combination with other products, how do you know

whether the desired effects are resulting from Chikara or the other products? thanks

Check out my

reply nearer to the top of the thread it explains what i do.
I just assume that it's the chikara/soe combo that

gives me good responses , but then I am a devilishly handsome man and modest too!
(thats a joke!)
Seriously,

it's been a while since I wore that combo. Do a search with my handle and chikara/soe and that will let you know

what my feelings were about that mix. I'm tired ,it's been a long day and I'll probably get it all wrong if I try

to note it down now.... just being honest.
:run:

[FutureKill]

Gorgar, do you frequently

apply mones to the backs of your hands? I tend only to think of applying mones to my wrists (being that they

are pulse points). How does the back of the hand differ from other places, particularly the wrists? Furthermore,

do you think the results from different mones differ from each other when applied to the backs of ones

hands?

[Gorgar]

I applied to the backs of my

hands because I was wearing a long sleeved shirt and my wrists were partially covered. When I'm talking and waving

my hands about, the mones would be facing the listener. Also, while talking to somebody with a drink in your hand

the mones face out instead of in towards yourself. I dunno if that'll make any big difference or not.

I don't

know if there is any change in effectiveness if applied to hands vs wrists.

[FutureKill]

Ok! that makes perfect sense

to me, I have been a little concerned about mones on my wrists not dispersing enough. I will definitely start

applying to the backs of my hands instead of my wrists.

Many thanks, my esteemed colleague :goodpost:

EDIT:

BTW, the smiley is referring to your post, despite (sort of) pointing to mine.

[idesign]

Now that its winter I only apply

to exposed skin in social situations, which is tops of hands and upper neck. Behind the ears is a good pulse point

which is exposed. I'm starting to wear it on clothes too, with the same results.

[Rbt]

I too am in a part of the world that

is getting downright cold this time of year (below freezing), so I take advantage of applying to every bit of

exposed skin I have no matter where it is. I also sometimes will apply certain pheromones to clothing and hair.

It's said not to do so with androstenone as it's very hard to get out of clothing and that can lead to some

unintentional OD's or other undesired reactions (say with co-workers on the job).

[terry0400-40]

I too am

in a part of the world that is getting downright cold this time of year (below freezing), so I take advantage of

applying to every bit of exposed skin I have no matter where it is. I also sometimes will apply certain pheromones

to clothing and hair. It's said not to do so with androstenone as it's very hard to get out of clothing and that

can lead to some unintentional OD's or other undesired reactions (say with co-workers on the

job).Wow you very lucky guys, well erum lucky to be cool.



Its a humid 30 celsus here in my spare room at 6.30 pm Brisbane time Sunday

where i sit with the windows open with a small fan close by blowing a breeze on to my torso as i type

this.

I am on the second floor and my bedroom and this room is

surrounded by flowering frangipani trees,various exotic palms and large mango tree full of new developing fruits

which will be very nice if the storm season and the bats dont demolish the fruits before they

ripen.

Yes the weather conditions shure can be a hastle when

the application points are running with perspiration, give me spring and autumn any day and every

day,

It was 25 deg C at 7 am and i had a cold shower and then

proceeded to stand in front of a large fan which seemed like pure heaven as it cooled me down.



I will be picking up my A quagen 3rd generation pheromones tomorrow from the

post office and i have many partys to attend so i hope to apply and look for the air conditioned options for initial

testings. :cheers: PS click to enlarge outside my bedroom pic.

[Gorgar]

Nice view Terry! I had a nice

coating of ice on my dodge today. I had to scrape the ice off windows so I could see. It's a little bit nipply

outside.

[terry0400-40]

Nice

view Terry! I had a nice coating of ice on my dodge today. I had to scrape the ice off windows so I could see. It's

a little bit nipply outside.My blood is far too thin for those sort of

capers, te he even Brisbane is too cold for me in the winter time.

Between the ages of 7 and 14 i was raised in

Darwin Nothern Australia where it is steamy and tropical for a good part of the year, I find that a little extreme

nowdays though.

I had a 4 year stay in West Yorkshire UK between 1978 and 1982 obviously i did survive but that

was when i was younger, a whole lot younger lol.

You can have the ice scraping in the mornings

to your selves, Gee the pheronone applications must like last forever in those conditions, have to take a blower out

on a date just to difuse the mones ha ha . :trout:

[Rbt]

Personally I find it easier to deal

with cold weather over hot. I can usually add a layer of clothes (or curl up with someone...)
:thumbsup:

If it

gets too hot you can only take off so much... then depend and hope that the electricity stays on as you sit in front

of a fan or seek out someplace with A/C.

Of course with pheromones, the colder weather does indeed cause one to

cover up most of the preferred application points, whereas warmer weather leaves more exposed, and a warm breeze to

carry to your target's noses. Of course with colder weather as an excue to do some snuggling you can get those

peromones right up close and be in range to do someting about it too...
:smite:

[belgareth]

Colder weather suits me better,

as well. Winter finally came to North Texas today and I am pleased about it. Except in the coldest of weather I

never wear long sleeves so there is little impact on where I place pheromones. When I am in a building the air is

usually warm enough that pheromones are dispersing well regardless of the weather.

Rbt has a good point about

snuggling. In a few minutes I am going to go start a nice fire and help my wife get warm...

[terry0400-40]

I find it impossable to have a decent nights sleep without the fan on all night as it is too hot and

sticky without it and it will be even hotter and more humid in a few weeks, really not good if the power goes of,

even typing this my forarms are sticking to the desk top.

It is so hot at christmass time that a cold

shower is out of the question as a reviver as the water is hot as well, the best thing to do is shower and then

stand in front of a good fan. tis soooo refreshing for awhile.

We all head for the airconditioned malls when

we are having a heatwave and the pheromones have to be applied when we arrive unless someone has an air conditioned

car, spend too long in the carpark though and the perspiration will start to run even when

sedentry,

Definately not good weather for applying LT lol. :sick:

[idesign]

Colder

weather suits me better, as well.

Rbt has a good point about snuggling. In a few minutes I am going to go start

a nice fire and help my wife get warm...

Throw a gel-pack on the fire and spray some Chikara on the

hearth, I've had good results with that combo. :)

[belgareth]

That's a really good idea.

Perhaps I should have stopped in again last night. Had to settle for my most recent mone mix, a fire and hot cocoa

with brandy in it.

[FutureKill]

Why not go all the way,

belgareth, and throw a roofie in that cocoa just for good measure?.:trout:

Are you serious idesign? I mean, have

you actually had good results from putting mones on the fire? That's an interesting idea, I'll have to try

that.

I was just kidding about the roofie BTW:nono:

[belgareth]

Not to sound dumb

but...uhm...what's a roofie?

[FutureKill]

You don't sound dumb at all,

but, roofie is a slang term for Rohypnol

rohypnol
noun a depressant and tranquilizer (trade name

Rohypnol) often used in the commission of sexual assault; legally available in Europe and Mexico and Colombia [syn:

flunitrazepan (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/flunitrazepan)]

It is sometimes used in

conjunction with alcohol (among other depressants) as a date rape drug.

Again, I was just kidding.:nono:

[belgareth]

Oh, ok. No problems.



Wouldn't that be sort of like screwing a dead body? Seriously? We've all heard of the date rape drugs but I just

can't imagine it would be any better than masturbation.

[gaf]

Oh, ok. No

problems.
Wouldn't that be sort of like screwing a dead body? Seriously? We've all heard of the date rape

drugs but I just can't imagine it would be any better than masturbation.

I just don't get the whole

date rape drug thing , it's not just a "womans issue" either. I know of several guys that had it happen to them

too, just goes to show you can never be too carefull.
For me (and others I'm sure) , half the fun is watching

your partner enjoy themselves. And lets be honest, you really have to be a shitty human being if you need to stupify

(sp?) someone in order to have sex with them.
sorry a bit OT I know , as usual.
:run:

[belgareth]

Yeah, I'm with you. A blow up

doll would be about as much fun, cheaper and safer, IMO.

Rape, in general, is something that should be punished

by public hangings regardless of whether is was forced or by drugs. It would solve a lot of problems. At the very

least, it would drastically cut down on repeat offenders.

[SyraBrian]

A pack of SoE and a half-pack of

Chikara was always my favorite combo for getting flirty attention from waitresses.

[Rbt]

I find it impossable to have a decent nights sleep

without the fan on all night as it is too hot and sticky without it and it will be even hotter and more humid in a

few weeks, really not good if the power goes of, even typing this my forarms are sticking to the desk top.



It is so hot at christmass time that a cold shower is out of

the question as a reviver as the water is hot as well, the best thing to do is shower and then stand in front of a

good fan. tis soooo refreshing for awhile.

We all head for the

airconditioned malls when we are having a heatwave and the pheromones have to be applied when we arrive unless

someone has an air conditioned car, spend too long in the carpark though and the perspiration will start to run even

when sedentry,

Definately not good weather for applying LT lol.

:sick:



HA! It's almost exactly the opposite here! I have to sleep in front of a fan

most nights too during our summers, and showers often just make the opressive humidity worse!

Most of my family

has moved to the southern US state of Florida. I can't stand it there most of the time. Much too sticky. They say

how nice it is, but I notice they stay in their air conditioned homes, get into the A/C'd car, drive to the A/C'd

mall, the A/C'd restaurants, etc.... Shoot, they never go outside for long. No thanks.

[terry0400-40]

Oh,

ok. No problems.

Wouldn't that be sort of like screwing a dead body? Seriously? We've all heard of the date

rape drugs but I just can't imagine it would be any better than masturbation. :sick: Some people obviously have the imagination to obtain satisfaction and fullfillment from

the activity. Also i have heard of some very weird activities by some undertakers of old. :eek:

[vendettaseve]

For thoes of us eagerly

awaiting my return, I have edited my first post for ease of viewing and such, my full report on the Chikara+SoE

fiasco is there lol

[terry0400-40]

For thoes of us eagerly awaiting my return, I have edited my first post for ease of

viewing and such, my full report on the Chikara+SoE fiasco is there lolThanks for the info much appreciated.

I have just received a new product but i have

also prior to this been using up my SOE gel /pks with one spray of Chikara hoping for a result but still it makes me

invisable and have been getting ignored by those who usually find me popular.

My g/f is as popular as anything with just

about everyone, I wonder how a spray of C7 would go on her ha ha. no better not.

My all time favourites have been Alpha 7 ,

SOE mix. Or SOE alone as an ice breaker,



Also Alpha314 works 4 me i like it, but it took me like forever to notice

anything from it, i now use it couple times month with consistant results.

Alpha314 with a drop Alpha 7 will reel the

girls in once conversation has been started.



TE and AE have also pulled their share of action over the years, yeah ya can

also get some freaking amazing reactions from NPA this stuff is da bomb if you can learn to use it. :trout:

[belgareth]

It sounds to me like you

managed to OD. Try a single product in a much smaller quantity and work your way up instead of trying a mix and

large amounts to start.

[terry0400-40]

It

sounds to me like you managed to OD. Try a single product in a much smaller quantity and work your way up instead of

trying a mix and large amounts to start.Really good advice here from one of

the grandmasters, take notice because this advice can mean the difference between sucess and failure in obtaining

your own best results.

Where i personally could use a drop

with good effects it could be far too much for some users and maby too little for others. ( especially Androstenone

products )

Time and time again i have seen positive results

come in for some users who have stuck to using a small amount of one product alone, As it is amazing to see just how

little of a product can suit a person precisely at times.

I

have seen users get results with 6" of SOE time after time, lucky bludgers ha ha,
I have to start at 15" for indoor use and work up to 30" for more serious and enduring

applications.

It took me ages to notice anything from A314 i

was ready to toss it, good thing i didn't as i now have 2 bottles in use and i can pull good results with one drop

alone, or 2 is my sweet spot for enduring activity.

[vendettaseve]

It is very possible that I

ODed, that thought has crossed my mind several times now that I think back on it. However Im no begginer, well I am

technicaly but Iv been using SoE for about 5 months now with varied results, Been using TE for 6 months and Chikara

for 5 as well, however Chikara has never really panned out for me, like most people. However this is the first time

Iv suffered an adverse effect from it, Strange eh.

Anywho, thanks for all your Input.