Just a lil tip

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try not to use SOE around big guard dogs as i found out today images/icons/crazy.gif
Very aggressive !! Wouldnt stop biting my wrists and neck, where i used the pheros images/icons/smile.gif
could tell it was the pheros as this dog is usually calm and quiet around me, not today tho images/icons/frown.gif

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LOL...thanks for the tip.

[travis]

I would like to add a little to tip to everyone. If you noticed most of the pheromone hit are likely in the bars, the reason why I think is when you drink alcohol your blood vesels are dilated hence more blood circulation. Having pretty good blood circulation in your body you are delivering heat to your skin and that heat that is coming out from our body helps to make the pheromone noticeable to women. Not only alcohol does this, if you are dancing on the dance floor there is also heat that comes out from your body. Not only that, the crowded area at the dance floor also helps.

When you are out side and the temperature is lower than your body temperature most likely your pheromone wont work.

Therefore, increase your blood circulation by means of cardio vascular/muscle workout etc. so that even you are not in bar your pheromone will work pretty good.

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Travis;

Not to dsprove your theory but my biggest hit was outside. But then again she had been drinking. But i have had allot of positive hits or responses while in an outside setting.


TCO

[travis]

Toolcoolone,

I was wondering maybe the reason why you are having hits outside is because you have a good blood circulation thus you are producing more body heat. Do you workout?

Travis

[travis]

TallCoolOne,

Sorry I missspeled your name

Travis

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My dog didn\'t react any differently after smelling the SOE on me.

About the bar/alcohol thing, my theory is that since alchohol lowers inhibitions, you\'re much more likely to get reactions from someone that\'s been drinking.

[jvkohl]

Alcohol consumption appears to increase testosterone (the sex drive hormone) in women, but may reduce testosterone in men.
Best bet, buy her a few drinks, but avoid
intake yourself until after you\'ve had your way with her.
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Eriksson, C.J., Fukunaga, T., & Lindman, R. (1994) Sex hormone response to alcohol. Nature, 369. WOMEN GET A SURGE OF TESTOSTERONE AFTER DRINKING ALCOHOL, STRONG EFFECT ON WOMEN TAKING ORAL CONTACEPTIVES WHICH SUPRESS NATURAL TESTOSTERONE PRODUCTION, STRONGEST EFFECT IS ALSO AROUND THE TIME OF OVULATION WHEN T LEVELS ARE HIGHEST ANYWAY.

Meyer, Roger E. (1990) Ethanol beverage anticipation: Effects on plasma testosterone and luteinizing hormone levels-A pilot study*. Journals of Studies on Alcohol, 51, 4, 350-355.
SNIFFING ALCOHOL INCREASES LH. UNCONDITIONED STIMULUS--ALCOHOL CAUSES UNCONDITIONED POTITIVE RESPONSE THAT IS REINFORCING. SKIN CONDUCTANCE AND HEART RATE CORRELATE IN ALCOHOLIC WITHDRAWAL CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL DECREASES T, CHRONIC CONSUMPTION REDUCES LH AND GnRH COMPARED TO T. ALCOHOLICS CAN ALMOST SMELL A BEER. REINFORCEMENT OF BEHAVIOR THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL STIMULI CAUSES INCENTIVE DRUG EFFECT

Gordon, G.G., Altman, K, Southren, A.L., Rubin, E. & Lieber, C.S. (1976) Effect of alcohol (ethanol) administration on sex-hormone metabolism in normal men. New England Journal of Medicine, 295,, 793-797. CHANGES IN LH SUGGEST A HYPOTHALAMIC AND GONADAL EFFECT OF ALCOHOL. ALCOHOL INCREASES THE METABOLIC CLEARANCE OF T (which means it lowers it in men.)

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Yeah, I haven\'t been around any dogs since I\'ve been wearing pheros, but I\'d be interested in the response. So, should the pheros only affect female dogs?

There is definitely something to the body heat effect. I\'ve been spraying the Edge on clothing this week. I heard that the release rate on clothing might be slower because it\'s cooler than your body. However, when I dance, I notice the cologne smell becomes much stronger, even 10 hours after I spray it on. I assume the pheros disperse faster too, but I can\'t smell the Edge well.

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My parents have a Catahula, a big dog (ie 130 lbs.) and he don\'t act any differently around me pheros or no. He is just really annoying (I hear it is a trait of the breed...) LOL images/icons/smile.gif

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Hey, those of you who noticed no response with a particular dog, was the dog male?

[travis]

James,

Thanks for the TIP I\'ll remember that


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[jamesdeanmartin]

I haven\'t noticed any response around my pets (I have a dog and a cat) with TE, PI or SOE however I ordered a couple things from http://www.mephisto-subliminal.com/ (\"http://www.mephisto-subliminal.com/\") and they sent me some free pheromones (called Cupid\'s Spark or something like that). I thought I\'d give it a try and put a drop on the back of each hand. 6 hours later when I came home, my cat wouldn\'t stop meowing at high decibels and was trying to hump my hands non-stop (even later that night when I went to bed the cat woke me up humping my hand, and this cat is spayd). I have a feeling those guys are using animal pheromones or something different in their product.

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Bwaaaa ha ha ha ha ah ah ah ah ah ah eeeeehh......
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Hey All,

JimBob- My roommate has two dogs a fem and a male (English Staffordshire Terriers). They go nuts when I spray a bit TE or place a drop of PI on one of their doggy toys. They just tear it up for a long time. And at the same time they are just totally hyper. Kinda fun to watch.

Travis; The huge Mega hit occurred last summer. I was playing nightclub Manager (I work for a Casino right on the Colorado River...and with my background they like to have me in the Club on the heavy weekends). Anyway I was doing the door thing helping the Security guys do ID checks etc. There was a table close to the door that had three totally HOT women in their mid 20\'s. They were flicking lighthearted shit to me and the Security Supervisor. We would throw it back etc. (I was wearing a blend of NPA and cologne...And I think a spray of Reg TE). After a few hours of doing the door thing I went out to get some fresh air, by the pool which was closed. After sitting there for a few a group of people was walking from the Hotel area back to the casino floor. One of the people was one of the girls from that front table. As they walked passed the girl asked if she could sit. I said \"Sure....No problemo\". She sits and we talk for a bit, and then she starts to squirm and fidget back and forth. I asked if anything was wrong. She replied after a few more fidgety, squirmy\'s. She had a problem and it was very personal. She related that she had just gotten her Labia pierced a day or two prior. And the hoop she has in there is somehow all caught up in her panties. I pointed to the restrooms that were approx. 10 yards away, and then said \"If there is anything I can do for you..\", I said half jokingly. At that she stands up drops her short and sits with her legs up. Well it took a while to see (it was dark) But low and behold there was the hoop, all twisted up in the lace of her thong. Well I had to do what a guy has to do. (Mentally thanked God) and took my time and unwrapped the hoop from the panties. And after she stood up and thanked me and gave me a big ole wet kiss. Then she went back into the casino/club. When last call was called she came up to me and gave me a big hug kissed me on the cheek and asked for my number. I gave her my digits and she said she would be back in town in a couple of weeks and wanted to take me to dinner. Then gave me another hug and asked what was the cologne I as wearing. I told her it was a blend I have made for me. She then said she really liked my scent, and departed. Long story short, she came back to town, took me dinner, and used me and abused me for most of the night.

Anyway that was my most unusual and one of the biggest hits from pheros.

TCO

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I didn\'t notice any response with a female dog. However she\'s been spayed (or is it neutered?)

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Interesting... I can\'t get mephisto.com. Well, -none and -nol are strong pheromones in pigs. Fortunately, we\'re not around pigs very often. Anyone know if -none and -nol are pheromones in dogs? Maybe, the pheros from mephisto.com has other animal pheros besides -none and -nol.

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TallCoolOne,

Do you still combine the NPA and the Edge? Is That your favorite combo??

[Whitehall]

\"Fortunately, we\'re not around pigs very often...\"

I guess I can offer a heart-felt reply for many of us and just say \"Speak for yourself.\"

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Apparently the human versions affect pigs in the same way they get all aggressive i would be weary if wearing on a trip to hunt wild boar now that could hurt lol. Dogs well they react as they have been gneticlly altered to respond to humans over thousands of years aka domesitcation. And cats as well. Actually rabbits are another one that respond interestingly enough.

[jamesdeanmartin]

Sorry guys, the url is http://www.mephisto-subliminal.com/. (\"http://www.mephisto-subliminal.com/.\") I ordered a subliminal sex cd from Mephisto to try out on an ex. We spent the weekend together, had a long road trip (3 hours up and back) and I played the cd for a majority of the trip in the car. Now this girl is horrible at committing, and was notorious for not calling me. We are still friends and cool with each other, but I have heard from her only a couple times since she went back to college in Sept. I didn\'t expect to hear from her until she was on spring break, but now it\'s been three days since our trip and she\'s e-mailed me four times and left two phone messages \"just to say Hi\". Who knows, maybe it works. Anyone else have experiences with these types of cds? I have a half-dozen close female friends and we are always in my car or at my place, so popping in a CD is no problem, and I\'m always one to experiment.

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I got my first bottle of the Edge the other day, and was going to write this whole thing about how my cat came over on the bed and started sniffing and licking my hands after I put some on...

then I remembered I\'d cooked shrimp for dinner. images/icons/crazy.gif

[Nutt]

LoL at that mephisto site, thats sooo underhand, and down right despicable. I love it, although its not really my style images/icons/laugh.gif

oh, its not work friendly, although Id be suprised if anyone ( other than bruce images/icons/laugh.gif ) surfs even this site in work images/icons/laugh.gif !

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Bubba;

Yes and no to your question. NPA is great! You can mix it with cologne to get a kick ass product or you can use it straight out of the bottle. The TE is the same. But I have used TE and NPA together allot. TE with it\'s spray makes it easy for application when used straight and not cut with anything. But NPA straight gives the best results of the two products. A dab or two behind the ears down the throat. And a drop on your collar. Cover with a good cologne (not High Karate..but a good scent). That’s it.


TCO

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Jamesdeanmartin,

I too have tried some of the mephisto stuff. CD\'s haven\'t really worked for me. Their Phero\'s seem OK, but I\'m waiting on more info RE customs to get some of the products everyone talks about on this forum (seems the land of OZ might be a problem. Anyone else tried the phero\'s from Mephisto with any hints?? I\'ve been playing with their Primal Concentrate with varying success. None of the products actually say what content of Pheros. Wish I\'d found Love-scent before I ordered from Mephisto

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THe land of OZ customs is a problem if you order by EMS shipment which is the emergency airmail shipment (although i have ordered regular airmail and recieve the stuff every time) it seems that we have customs agents down under that take the pheros down under never to be seen again - a case of sticky fingers and not bothering to tell anyone, two customs agents that have \"stolen the stuff i ordered\" went by the name of lesley quinn and bill shakleton and obviously these two took the stuff but they may become regular customers or theives or whatever my advice order normal airmail (delivery or between 7-10 business days which works out about a week and a half to two weeks which is still pretty good.