View Full Version : pheromones are totally useless to me
sorry for being honest, but after several years of different phero experimentation my overall result is zero
(except that people complain how bad I smell).
Last pheros I gave a try (during last year) are NPA, Pheromax,
Alpha7, AE, APC, Edge Sandalwood. All combos, all dosages. Total result (with all my honesty): ZERO. period
Please do not try to ask me usual question, yes I am normal guy in my 40's, not alpha, not wuss and all results I
ever had from woman while wearing mones are 'you stink' or 'you stink like hell'. I tried to cover it with
Armani Code for example, but without any use. I usually have satisfactory enough success with women, I tried to
accelerate it with pheros.
So for me this phero thing is over (after many years of my thinking that pheros do
work). Looks like real fake/placebo industry. Do not wish to spoil your beliefs, but this post (and my
dissapointment) is genuine and honest.
thank you
belgareth
10-04-2007, 02:32 PM
I am sorry to hear that they
didn't work for you but, based on your comments about stinking, I suspect part of the problem is wearing too much
and possibly the wrong mones. Everything you list except APC is a high -none product. Some people, like me, cannot
wear high -none products. You may be one of those, as well. APC has failed for more people than it has worked for so
it's no surprise that it didn't work for you.
Another issue may be your expectations or you may have
personality issues (Not saying you do or don't. Listing possibilities). One thing is certain, there is more than
enough clinical research data to demonstrate that pheromones DO work. I personally only believe a percentage of the
hit stories I read here and attribute some of them to sheer luck or placebo effects. After all that, there is still
a certain percentage that are very likely valid results that were aided by synthetic human pheromones. That they do
not work for you only means that you have failed to use them correctly, in some manner, or other factors have
prevented them from helping you.
It's fine if you choose to not use them, they are only an aid under the best
of conditions anyway. They will never be as important as your attitude, grooming and personality.
Please do not try
to ask me usual question, yes I am normal guy in my 40's, not alpha, not wuss and all results I ever had from woman
while wearing mones are 'you stink' or 'you stink like hell'. I tried to cover it with Armani Code for example,
but without any use.
Ok then,
a usual question would be how much did you apply of each
product.
Anyway I'd say your have been using far too much of whatever you use , like bel said some of use can only
use a dab or so of high none products without getting the negative reactions you described. For example, I'm a 38yo
white male that od's on less then one drop of PI/NPE/TE , others with similier statisics can happily wear 2 drops
or even more with no problem. You'll probably find if you cut right back to dabs and test over a few weeks things
will start working out for you, but thats not what you wanted to hear is it.
:cheers:
terry0400-40
10-05-2007, 11:33 PM
Ok
then,
a usual question would be how much did you apply of each product.
Anyway I'd say your have been using far
too much of whatever you use , like bel said some of use can only use a dab or so of high none products without
getting the negative reactions you described. For example, I'm a 38yo white male that od's on less then one drop
of PI/NPE/TE , others with similier statisics can happily wear 2 drops or even more with no problem. You'll
probably find if you cut right back to dabs and test over a few weeks things will start working out for you, but
thats not what you wanted to hear is it.
:cheers:When the day comes that
women stop telling me that i smell sexy i will lose my faith in pheromones.
When they stop snuggling into the exact area where i have sprayed Androstadienone then i will lose
my faith in pheromones.
When the girls stop sucking at my AE
application site during mating then i will lose faith in pheromones.
I dont get good solid hits every day with a proven mix applied but i do get reactions and on many
occasions there are obvious hits leaving no room for doubt whatsoever.
Every subject exposed to the influence of Pheromone has their own unique way of perceiving the
experience and also in the reactions that they display towards how they are affected.
The difference between a Phero novice and a pheromaster is being able to apply pheromones
successfully and also in the ability to be able to recognise speech and body language effects upon target
subjects.
Using pheromones sucessfully is an art form that
some learn very fast and for some it takes time, The mastering of Pheromone use will always be an ongoing process
because of the many and varied situations and purposes that can facilitate the use of them, Ie whether it be for
Trust, Seduction, Comfort, Status, Business, Dominance, Respect, Admiration, Attraction or just wanting to be
noticed the list goes on, How many colours are there in the rainbow ?
Given that we are all so unique and varied in age and physiology each with our own natural
pheromone signature, what works well for one person may not necessarily work exactly well for
another.
Its good that we have buddies with shared interest in
pheromones who we can sometimes swap something that may not be satisfactory, And there is always the option of
returning the product to point of sale for refund or swap.
And best of all we have a great facility at our disposal in the use and study of this great forum
with its collective treasure of knowledge. :box:
Go
Love-Scent You good thing :wub: :wub: :wub: :whip:
jamesdeanmartin
10-06-2007, 08:28 AM
Looks
like real fake/placebo industry. Do not wish to spoil your beliefs, but this post (and my dissapointment) is genuine
and honest.
thank you
Wow. So it didn't work for you, so the entire industry is a
fraud?
Come now.
Its that kind of thinking that is probably why you aren't having success.
I
definitely agree you are using way too many -none products.
APC never worked for me. Same with Pheromax. Edge
produced negative results, as did PI.
A7 I have inconclusive results with. I definitely don't get the same
positive results with it that I get with A-1, C7, SOE, WAGG etc.
I'm not sure why you would combine all
those -none products, they are all doing the same thing.
t depends on you and your body chemistry and who
you are trying to attract. The problem with the field is that we are dealing with maybe 10% of the total knowledge
we need to always be successful with pheros, so its a lot of trial and error a lot of hit and miss.
Also I'm
guessing you aren't American, where do you live and what type of women are you trying to attract?
belmont
10-06-2007, 09:41 AM
well, everything needs time to
work. u need to see where you are, who you are with and how u behave. If you walk into a club or something, perhaps
things might turn out better since everyone is high on alcohol and the place is crowded.
u need to initiate
conversation so u can
1) maintain close distance with the person
2) buy time so she can get a good sniff of the
pheromones
3) be attracted by ur personality
Iaskalotof?'s
10-06-2007, 10:00 PM
One thing I have noticed
is that you don't seem willing to take advice.It could also just be your personality,kind of like a lone
wolf/agressor deal, which in that case would make high none products like APC/NPA/A7 terrible for you.I would advise
something with -nol in it such as (Haven't tried it but heard it works) or SOE,that seems to create
chattiness and erase personal space.I can vouch for SOE as yesterday I was at a party and I met a former co-worker
who I haven't seen in a while.Anywho we did a little fluff talk then she turned chatty and giddy around me,so I
knew it was working.Like half an hour later I went into a bedroom where some of my friends were and she was there
too.I layed down on the bed with them,and then all of the sudden she put my head right on her lap!Not only that,she
started unbuttoning my shirt and rubbing my chest!I couldn't take it any further though plus I felt like total crap
yesterday(and I still do:sick: .).Like I said it creates chattiness and erases personal space so if you want to give
it one last shot try something with -nol in it.
belmont
10-06-2007, 10:16 PM
SOE works....but i got the hit
from an old uncle who suddenly get very frenly with me like i have known him for yrs.....
idesign
10-07-2007, 09:18 PM
When the day comes that women stop telling me that i
smell sexy i will lose my faith in pheromones.
When they stop
snuggling into the exact area where i have sprayed Androstadienone then i will lose my faith in
pheromones.
When the girls stop sucking at my AE application
site during mating then i will lose faith in pheromones.
I
dont get good solid hits every day with a proven mix applied but i do get reactions and on many occasions there are
obvious hits leaving no room for doubt whatsoever.
Every
subject exposed to the influence of Pheromone has their own unique way of perceiving the experience and also in the
reactions that they display towards how they are affected.
The
difference between a Phero novice and a pheromaster is being able to apply pheromones successfully and also in the
ability to be able to recognise speech and body language effects upon target subjects.
Using pheromones sucessfully is an art form that some learn very fast and for
some it takes time, The mastering of Pheromone use will always be an ongoing process because of the many and varied
situations and purposes that can facilitate the use of them, Ie whether it be for Trust, Seduction, Comfort, Status,
Business, Dominance, Respect, Admiration, Attraction or just wanting to be noticed the list goes on, How many
colours are there in the rainbow ?
Given that we are all so
unique and varied in age and physiology each with our own natural pheromone signature, what works well for one
person may not necessarily work exactly well for another.
And
best of all we have a great facility at our disposal in the use and study of this great forum with its collective
treasure of knowledge.
Terry, it seems you've written a very well articulated
manifesto, even eloquent at times. Bravo.
terry0400-40
10-08-2007, 03:39 AM
Terry, it seems you've written a very well articulated manifesto, even eloquent at times.
Bravo.Thank you Greg, Most times i dont mean to say much but then i start to
think a little and before you know it im rattling on and on ha ha.
It takes me a little time to figre out if i
have left a clear message but generally i think people sorta ger ma drift, even so i seem to be repeating my self
sometimes and posting the same advice in so many different ways, I think my writing style has inprovrd since my
early days on the forum seeing i have had plenty of practice.
Well its all good being a part of the great
forum family of phero friends, I may have to get some tee shirts printed up for summer does phero mix sound ok ?
:lol:
Superman
10-08-2007, 06:36 AM
Hi Terry, I agree with
you.
Pheromones are like make up, they can enhance us. But 'we' are still needed..
You can put a lot of
pheromones on a tree and it won't attract women...
You still have to do your part. Men are known to take the
initiative, so in most cases you have to take the needed "action". It works then I can tell you.
Good luck! Do not
be discouraged.
Wow.
So it didn't work for you, so the entire industry is a fraud?
Come now.
Its that kind of thinking that is
probably why you aren't having success.
I definitely agree you are using way too many -none products.
APC
never worked for me. Same with Pheromax. Edge produced negative results, as did PI.
A7 I have inconclusive
results with. I definitely don't get the same positive results with it that I get with A-1, C7, SOE, WAGG etc.
I'm not sure why you would combine all those -none products, they are all doing the same thing.
t depends on
you and your body chemistry and who you are trying to attract. The problem with the field is that we are dealing
with maybe 10% of the total knowledge we need to always be successful with pheros, so its a lot of trial and error a
lot of hit and miss.
Also I'm guessing you aren't American, where do you live and what type of women are you
trying to attract?
not that I want to disturb or spoil nice community here. Above said are my personal
observations based on my several years of experience with phero thing.
I find myself quite intellignet and I
know exactly what is message of some friendly posters here. By being equally honest, I tried many many phero
variations/combinations. And yes, I know pretty much about psychology, seduction, what women want stuff etc.
Conclusion is that I don't see pheromones as a real help toward this direction. I mean, who needs placebo, or
liquid self-confidence booster? There are many better (psychological) solutions for this task.
I am not saying
that pheromones are fake industry, because too many researches claim opposite. I just think this industry is too
elusive for ordinary Joe. What's the point in doing deep experimentations, trying out countless phero combinations
in order to just little help raise chance with women. I mean, I you put equal effort in boosting your personality,
success will be much more probable, and with greater certainity.
I just came to the conclusion (personal one)
that it isn't worth bothering that much with pheros. For sure, great majority of guys want simple help in
approaching women, and pheros are not best thing for that.
At the end, pheros may be ok for some, moderators
here are very honest and friendly :thumbsup: , but I didn't found pheros helpful so far. Which doesn't mean I know
too much about this topic, those are only my (let's say educated) observations.
belmont
10-08-2007, 07:21 AM
of cos personality plays a big
part but things like SOE is to ensure u are able to keep her infront of u to know u better and u know her
better....its like a catalyst...u can do without it but it will better with it.
Superman
10-08-2007, 07:28 AM
..u can
do without it but it will better with it.
That's the point precisely..
David319
10-08-2007, 07:28 AM
I was a little skeptic at
first, i even read about people tryin mones and not having it work for them.. but i guess you just need to find what
works for you.. Have you tried SOE.. that was the first mone product i purchased and i began noticing a difference
the moment i wore it.. Since then i have expanded my collection because i can truly say that they do work..
Good
luck and i hope you find whats right for you
belmont
10-08-2007, 07:52 AM
It works provided u make the
initiative and perform your best to hitch the gals....they wun come to u like bees to honey...at least not in
Singapore context...
terry0400-40
10-08-2007, 11:27 AM
Hi
Terry, I agree with you.
Pheromones are like make up, they can enhance us. But 'we' are still needed..
You
can put a lot of pheromones on a tree and it won't attract women...
You still have to do your part. Men are
known to take the initiative, so in most cases you have to take the needed "action". It works then I can tell
you.
Good luck! Do not be discouraged.Hey Superman, good to see you have
flown in for a visit, i always appreciate your good sound knowledge and input.
I dont think many of us would part with our
hard come by money if we did not see the great benifits and entertainment that pheromones affords
us.
As they
certainly do add that fine bit of lustre to our presence, but as you say we have to actually make the presentations
in order to obtain the proof of the pudding. :wave:
terry0400-40
10-08-2007, 11:33 AM
It
works provided u make the initiative and perform your best to hitch the gals....they wun come to u like bees to
honey...at least not in Singapore context...HA ha so true belmont, I will
look you up when i come to Singapore to check out the good local honey bees, ha dont worry ill bring some SOE,
and Chikara :angel:
belmont
10-08-2007, 03:23 PM
haha, maybe i can show u ard
Singapore. do let me know when u are coming though....hahaha
Superman
10-09-2007, 10:48 PM
Hey Superman, good to see you have flown in for a visit,
i always appreciate your good sound knowledge and input.
Thanks! As I do appreciate your
fine words too ...
idesign
10-11-2007, 03:47 PM
euro, too bad you've not had
good results. Pheromones are a tool among other tools, and you're right that personal improvement counts for more.
A critical tool is attitude, and after reading your old posts it seems like you had a negative attitude toward
-mones from the beginning, or nearly so.
I approach -mone usage light-heartedly, with no expectations and
natural optimism. They work for me, not all the time but enough to know that they work. I'm also still working on
the other things, some of which you mentioned. A little self-examination goes a long way.
Thanks for your
thoughts, its always stimulating to hear points of view.
Iaskalotof?'s
10-13-2007, 08:36 AM
Hey euro are you going to
give them a 2nd try?
stuttgart-man
10-15-2007, 07:25 AM
sorry
for being honest, but after several years of different phero experimentation my overall result is zero (except that
people complain how bad I smell).
Last pheros I gave a try (during last year) are NPA, Pheromax, Alpha7, AE,
APC, Edge Sandalwood. All combos, all dosages. Total result (with all my honesty): ZERO. period
Please do not
try to ask me usual question, yes I am normal guy in my 40's, not alpha, not wuss and all results I ever had from
woman while wearing mones are 'you stink' or 'you stink like hell'. I tried to cover it with Armani Code for
example, but without any use. I usually have satisfactory enough success with women, I tried to accelerate it with
pheros.
So for me this phero thing is over (after many years of my thinking that pheros do work). Looks like
real fake/placebo industry. Do not wish to spoil your beliefs, but this post (and my dissapointment) is genuine and
honest.
thank you
Hey Euro,
why do you not try SOE? SOE is known to get good results! Almost all
products do you have used are High-None-products! Perhaps do you get better results with Nol-products!?
Superman
10-15-2007, 07:34 AM
Hey
Euro,
why do you not try SOE? SOE is known to get good results! Almost all products do you have used are
High-None-products! Perhaps do you get better results with Nol-products!?
euro, perhaps you have a natural
high -none output, don't need much -none at all and like stuttgart said, you'd do better with the -nols.
terry0400-40
10-15-2007, 10:52 AM
Euro Man, What the guys say is true, and i would say you could be in for a very
real suprise if you were kitted up with some , SOE, and or possably some WAGG may suit you if the
Androstenone products are not compatable to you. :wave:
Superman
10-15-2007, 12:07 PM
Euro Man, What the guys say is true, and i would say you
could be in for a very real suprise if you were kitted up with some , SOE, and or possably some WAGG may suit
you if the Androstenone products are not compatable to you. :wave:
It's a question of
finding what's right/best for you.. not everyone's the same.
belmont
10-15-2007, 03:39 PM
generally, SOE works but
subtlely and u got to do the talking to get the gals....
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