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Unity
09-18-2007, 01:51 AM
Alright

I am a 19 year old college freshman. I go to school in Airizona where it is hot and dry. I am 6"3' and 160 lbs with

latino like skin(I look like Adrian Grenier from Entourage). I would like to use pheronmes to meet people.
I am

guessing the best choice is to get begginer pack with extra SOE but i wanted some opinions first.

Unity
09-18-2007, 01:52 AM
Also is there any difference at

all betwwen SOE gel packets and the actual roller aplicator

terry0400-40
09-18-2007, 04:26 AM
Also is there difference at all betwwen SOE gel packets and the actual roller aplicator

Hi Unity, :welcome: Really good ta see ya got here, If you are

lookin for some SOE then this is the place, hope ya have a good time, there not a bad mob of blokes around here who

will steer ya in the right direction .

The

gel/pks SOE are good to carry in your wallet or stash a few in with ya rubbers as they are very versitile and if you

decide to apply 1/2 or 3/4 then it is just soe easy to fold the end over and slip a paper clip or whatever over the

end and it will last till yer are ready for a refresher or even up to several weeks no worries, Personally if i am

going out for over 5 hours of action then i use the whole gel/pkt but that is my

preferance.

The gels contain .08 mg of Pheromone content this

giving you 64 mcg of Androstenol ( friendly attraction pheromone ) and 16 mcg Androsterone ( smooth respected

gentleman pheromone )

Therefore 62 gel / pks SOE would just

about = the contents of the SOE roller top applicator bottle @ 5mg Pheromones in 10 mL. comprising 4mg Androstenol

and 1mg Androsterone. the ratio is 80/20.

With the roller ya

just roll it on the clean skin surface and the trail of pheromone left behind the roller is measured in inches when

discussing this product on this forum.

Everyone is unique and

each testing window of opportunity is different IE ranging from sitting in a car with a chick or looking for

attraction at a dance or a club for instance, So the application of the SOE can vary from say 5" and anything up to

30" ( 1" means one inch and 1" = 2+1/2 centimetres in length like this long `````````` = 1"



When you first remove the cap tip the bottle over so as the

rollerball gets juiced up and then stand the bottle upright and rub the end of your thumb around and around on the

roller ball so as to free it up, this helps gets the roller ball freed up from sitting around in storage and then

gives future smooth applications when used. `````````

I have

used both roller and also gel/pks and both work very effectivley and give good results when a suitable amount is

applied. Also both mix without any problems for those who have learned the art of mixing to suit their particular

needs.

The pheromones can be carried around in the car without

any problems as long as they are not directly exposed to the sunlight they keep well. :thumbsup:

belgareth
09-18-2007, 06:04 AM
Hey Unity,

The problem you

are going to encounter is something we run across all the time. Wallflowers are still wallflowers no matter what

product they wear. You have to be an active participant for any pheromone product to work. You are still going to

have to approach the girls and do your best to charm them. I know it can be hard to do at first. But once you start

doing it regularly, it gets easier.

Don't expect pheromones to do it all for you. They are only a part of your

arsenal and you are still going to need humor, personality, good grooming and so on.

Unity
09-18-2007, 10:43 AM
True I was just hoping pheromones

to break the ice maybe :P

So would it be a good idea to go for the beginners pack with a 20 pack of the soe

gels packets?

terry0400-40
09-18-2007, 11:47 AM
True I was just hoping pheromones to break the ice maybe :P

So would it be a good idea to

go for the beginners pack with a 20 pack of the soe gels packets?Yes the

beginners special is good value because yr gettin the Edge at bargain price and the Superprimal fragrance makes a

good softening cover to go with, And the sprayer will certainly come in handy.

Good thinking also to go for the gel/pks SOE

when starting out, You could use one a day alone to start out with to help gain some added attraction to your

approaches,

You could always add a little Edge to the SOE after a couple of weeks of becoming familiarised

with the SOE product.

Or perhaps test out some EDGE alone after you have sufficiently noted the SOE

characteristics.

I have not used the superprimal fragrance, although it could temper a spray of EDGE very well by

all accounts,
PLz let me know what yo think of the Superprimal.



It looks

like you will be busy for some time once your chosen pheromones arrive, so go and enjoy yourself, get to know the

interests of others and you will always have a good conversation starter with them, they can use you as a sounding

board whilst getting a good whiff of your unique and dynamic pheromone signature. :thumbsup:

tenaciousBLADE
09-20-2007, 03:30 PM
Hey Unity. :welcome: to the forums and let me start right away by saying you made a wise choice

:thumbsup:

SOE & TE are indeed (IMO) the best `mone-products to start with for a 19 year old. Specially in such

an enviorment as collage :angel:

I myself am 23 years young and started using `mones at about the age of 20. So

my potential "target" age range is at about the same ages as yours probably is :cheers:

First off, I'd listen

to Belgareth. However, with time... the `mones will give you enough of an edge to actually feel lighter about the

all ordeal, and it'll feel and seem like much more fun to get your game up ;)

I've Replied to a lot of new

comers to the forums at about your (and my) age. I refer them all to

This Post (http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?p=202801#post2), and I advise you as well to

read it and all the links from it. It'll give you a much broader idea about `mones and what they're all about.

After having that knowledge, it'll be much easier to understant what it is you want from `mones and how to achieve

it :angel: :POKE:

Feel free to ask any more questions you might have as you go along with your experimentations

:) As you can see, there are very nice and experienced people here that are willing to help :wave:

Ain't this

a great forum? :D

P.S.
I've only used SOE gel-packeges twice... I usually use SOE unscented. Yet I think 20

packages would be a great start; and as great terry here told ya` - The packages are the same as the bottle SOE; you

just have to get used to the correlation between the `mone amounts in them to be able to realize what amounts you

should put on.
Or in other words: Just experiment :D

Unity
09-20-2007, 04:58 PM
I've Replied to a lot of new comers to the forums at about your (and my) age. I

refer them all to This Post (http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?p=202801#post2), and I advise

you as well to read it and all the links from it. It'll give you a much broader idea about `mones and what they're

all about. After having that knowledge, it'll be much easier to understant what it is you want from `mones and how

to achieve it :angel: :POKE:



I have and thats the main reason for me choosing what i choose to

buy. What i did buy is the beginners special and 20 packs of soe.

idesign
09-20-2007, 06:59 PM
Don't

expect pheromones to do it all for you. They are only a part of your arsenal and you are still going to need humor,

personality, good grooming and so on.

I found the pheromones here at L-S, where do I get those other

things you mentioned?

belgareth
09-20-2007, 07:19 PM
I had to special order mine.

Took a very long time to get here. Then the sense of humor was defective. Returning it was such a hassle that I

decided to keep it and make the best of a bad deal.

idesign
09-20-2007, 08:12 PM
I had to

special order mine. Took a very long time to get here. Then the sense of humor was defective. Returning it was such

a hassle that I decided to keep it and make the best of a bad deal.

I'm still waiting. I do have some

personality cultivating in a Petri dish, I hope its ready for the weekend.

Its amazing that what we are isn't

necessarily what we will be. As corny as it sounds, we really can take positive steps to turn weaknesses into

strengths.

Unity, you'll do fine. You got some good products and good advice from the guys here, and you

hooked up even without the -mones! I was pretty much a social cripple in college, and only overcame it by working

at it. The -mones will help, go get 'em.

Today's Dale Carnegie moment was brought to you by: Belgareth's

Sense of Humor, Nurture not Nature.

Oh, Unity, welcome, and have fun!

tenaciousBLADE
09-21-2007, 12:11 AM
lol.. you two cracked me

up :LOL:

Unity
09-21-2007, 12:35 AM
Yes funny. I just thought it was

kinda ironic that the "hook up" happend the day after i came across this site for help

Unity
09-22-2007, 02:32 AM
I should be recieving the order

soon and was wondering what i would use the super primal in the beginners special for and with.

crashbandicoot
09-22-2007, 11:07 AM
hello unity
super

primal is nol
like soe it is used for friendliness
and is the best mone for talking
try 2 dabs te with

some spmo
(super primal) then you will
have sexiness and friendliness
combo. Should not overdose its not

cool.
Im also a newbie though.

tenaciousBLADE
09-22-2007, 12:19 PM
SPMO is `nol indeed -

but it's not much `nol.
You can use a lot of it without fearing any OD... besides... `nol is not an easy one to OD

on.
You should be more weary of ODing with `none. That's why TE is a great product to begin with... it is a less

concentrated version of a `none-product than others; and so you can spread it around more than ther `none

products.

Use the SPMO as a cover, and remember it is a small addition of `nol. I only use is once in a while.

TE+SOE+my normal cologne is enough for me :)

(I also use A1, but that's not for beginners... and anyway I only

use it `coz

Unity
09-22-2007, 02:14 PM
Is the spmo enough of a cover so

that i dont need to wear cologne?

tenaciousBLADE
09-22-2007, 02:28 PM
Probably. But IMHO it

always smells better with a little cologne.
If you like how the SPMO smells, then by all means - use it as a cover.

It's enough of a cover :)
Just keep in mind it's oil based (there are oil-based covers and alcohol-based covers.

Read about them in The Cookbook if ou need more info :p).

Unity
09-23-2007, 02:30 PM
I got the order today and will use

it tommorow. excited :) My order came with an edge wipe which was a surprise. Do you use the entire wipe?
Well I

will keep everyone updated on how my results are using the mones. I think I will make a new thread with results.

tenaciousBLADE
09-23-2007, 04:38 PM
I have no idea about the

wipe - I never used one :)
But I'm sure you can find someone here with the experience ;)
Sounds exciting.. to

recieve your order :D
Go and have fun experimenting :p

And by the way.. now you can smell the SPMO and decide

for yourself if you'd like it as a cover :thumbsup:
You own opinion counts best in that manner :D

Good luck

and I wish you great results and experimentation :D

idesign
09-23-2007, 04:59 PM
I got the

order today and will use it tommorow. excited :) My order came with an edge wipe which was a surprise. Do you use

the entire wipe?
Well I will keep everyone updated on how my results are using the mones. I think I will make a new

thread with results.

Wipes are hard to dose. I've used what I think to be about 1/2 of an Edge Wipe,

and had what I consider good results. The other half can be used to refresh a few hours later if you like, or the

next day.

I've found that the Primal oil is ok but doesn't last very long.

What I find to be a good practice

is to experiment with the -mones and covers at home at the end of the day. Maybe after work (school) before going

grocery shopping or something to get a little public exposure. Give it enough time to settle on your skin for a

while and then judge what you think is acceptable. I think most of us here cover with something, even the scented

products. Find something that works with the -mones so you don't have to drown yourself in cologne.

Unity
09-23-2007, 05:41 PM
I mixed 2 full eye dropper amounts

of the SPMO with an equal amount of TE in the atomizer. I put on one spray on wirsts just for the hell of it :). The

SPMO smell is not appealing to me but not bad and I do notice that the smell is wearing off already after 1-2 hours.

I am thinking it is better to put a more SPMO in the mix than TE. Any opinions?
Also has anyone used Z Zegna

cologne as a cover? My roommate uses it (not as cover) and I have tried it and like it. Thinking about getting a

bottle

tenaciousBLADE
09-23-2007, 05:50 PM
About more SPMO - give it

a try.. if you like the results better, or even just the smell in this case... then why not? :)
I think SPMO

is not a strong product on the `mones... which means you can probably add a lot of it without much risk of ODing

from the SPMO (besides.. it's `nol... it's harder to OD on `nol).
So, IMHO, sure - try adding more SPMO... see if

you like it :)

I haven't used nor heared about Z Zenga, but if you like the smell.. I see no reason for it to

be a bad cover.
If you're unsure, try asking girls around what they think of it's smell. Say you're trying out

new colognes... It's true anyway ;)

Unity
09-23-2007, 06:53 PM
Lol I am so excited to test on the

mones tommorow i just keep checking into the forums and wanting to talk more.
TenaciousBLADE I read your story

about putting the SOE under your nose when you recieved it at first and I did the same and i do feel a small effect

as well.

Unity
09-24-2007, 05:24 PM
Ok i am posting all my results

from the mones on this thread http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?p=203414#post203414