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ShyAsianGuy26
08-18-2007, 07:45 PM
Starting
pheromone usage roughly four months ago, I say I've come along way of course no where near any of the masters.
Right now I am getting ready to place a large order to round out my repertoire. Suggestions or comments on any of my
picks?
So far this is what I have~
SOE Scented
Chikara Scented
NPA
Various Packs
What I plan on adding~
but still need a few more products...
A-7: the counterpart to NPA, more of a gentlemen aura~ rone heavy.
Edge
Wipes: read a bit about them, might as well give it a try.
SOE: Love this product. Maybe I'll get the unscented
this time.
TE Sandalwood: lower on the -none but I hear the scent is rather attractive.
***Any
suggestions or comments to round out my selection?
P.S Also I misplace the discount code if one is still
active...
CAtriathlete
08-18-2007, 07:59 PM
As you'll see in many of
my posts, I'm a huge fan of A1.
If you do a web search using it's real name (androstadienone) you'll see that
it has a lot of scientific research behind it as a pheromone that really makes a woman feel good. The only reason
you don't see it used in many more of the products (except possibly as a secret ingredient) is because the company
that makes Pheromax has the patent to use it as a part of mixes.
Every time I wear A1 on my neck, any woman who
hugs me swoons.
-CAt
ShyAsianGuy26
08-18-2007, 08:07 PM
I'll definitely keep that
in mind when I am placing my new order. Which products other than Pheromax puts this in their ingredients other than
*secret ingredients*?
CAtriathlete
08-18-2007, 08:16 PM
I'll definitely keep that in mind when I am placing my new order. Which products other
than Pheromax puts this in their ingredients other than *secret ingredients*?
There are none that I know
of that list A1. I remember reading about a company or two that pay the Pheromax people a license fee to include A1
in their products, but I can't remember who. And if you look at the L-S product table or product guide, it doesn't
look like anyone else is admitting to using A1.
In any case, I wouldn't buy Pheromax, I would buy a bottle of
full strength A1 from the Kits/supplies section of L-S. That's what I use.
-CAt
ShyAsianGuy26
08-18-2007, 08:21 PM
Hmm, I am definitely going
to research this before finalizing my order. Do you buy the reagent grade A-1 or do you buy Pheromax?
If you do
buy the reagent grade A-1 (10ml) do you mix it with other pheromones or just dilute it with water and
splash?:run:
Thanks for your replies
CAtriathlete
08-19-2007, 12:16 AM
I use the reagent grade A1
(full strength), but don't mix it with anything else, since the other products I use are oil based.
I either
put a small drop of A1 on one finger and dab it around, or mix a drop with a small amount of water and splash it
around.
-CAt
ShyAsianGuy26
08-19-2007, 04:24 AM
Thanks, I guess that
rounds out my order. I am expecting good things from this one. I'll keep everyone posted on this.
:cheers:
punisher
08-19-2007, 04:22 PM
is A1 the one that costs 29.95
thanks
ShyAsianGuy26
08-19-2007, 05:40 PM
Nope its the one that cost
$79.95 for 10ml or 1/3 of an oz.
I expect very good things from this one.
punisher
08-19-2007, 06:13 PM
is A1 pheromax. which one do i
buy, thanks
Gegogi
08-19-2007, 06:42 PM
If you do a web search
using it's real name (androstadienone) you'll see that it has a lot of scientific research behind it as a
pheromone that really makes a woman feel good. The only reason you don't see it used in many more of the products
(except possibly as a secret ingredient) is because the company that makes Pheromax has the patent to use it as a
part of mixes.
Actually that's not entirely accurate. There are products that use A-1. However they
can't use fragrance as a part of their design. The most common male pheromone can't be patented--that's like
trying to patent air or water--so they patented a particular use and design concept (as cologne). For example, the
popular "Instant Female Magic" is mostly A-1 but contains a small amount of tweaking or steering pheromones and has
no added scent.
I've bought chemset A-1 from LS and must say it's extremely consistent and effective at
elevating female mood, especially during their monthy punishment. One or two drops and she's transformed from mean
'n nasty to smiling and upbeat.
I've not tired Pheromax but have read more carping about that product than
most.
CAtriathlete
08-19-2007, 11:55 PM
Actually that's not entirely accurate. There are products that use A-1. However they can't
use fragrance as a part of their design. The most common male pheromone can't be patented--that's like trying to
patent air or water--so they patented a particular use and design concept (as cologne). For example, the popular
"Instant Female Magic" is mostly A-1 but contains a small amount of tweaking or steering pheromones and has no added
scent.
Hey G,
I'm no lawyer, but I don't read the patent the same way you do. Of course Erox
can't patent the naturally occuring pheromone itslef. But they can patent a variety of compositions of the
pheromone with other phermones, and not all of them require added fragrance.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=qwUaAAAAEBAJ&dq=androstadienone
The title of the patent is,
"Fragrance compositions AND OTHER compositions which contain human pheromones". The way I read the patent, not all
of the compositions contain odorants. It appears that since the pheromones themselves have a fragrance, the
compostions that contain them can be called fragrances without added odorants. See claims #9-18 in the patent--it
appears to me that they are specific combinations of pheromones included in the patent that do not require an
additional odorant.
So I'm guessing that "Instant Female Magic" either licenses use of A1 within their formula,
or they are using a composition of pheromones that is outside the claims of the patent.
Does this make sense?
Respectfully,
CAt
Gegogi
08-20-2007, 06:57 PM
The forum censors removed the
name of the company that makes Instant Female Magic from my post! Anywho, this "unmentionable" company feels
strongly about the use of added scent as part of their design. Apparently they believe it helps dissipate mones. IFM
is the only product they have without added scent. I'm sure they would prefer it had added fragrance. Whatever the
case IFM works extremely well, even better than chemset A-1, and A-1 is better dad burn fine.
This unmentionable
company is the maker of A314.
CAtriathlete
08-20-2007, 07:41 PM
Whatever the case IFM works extremely well, even better than chemset A-1, and A-1 is better
dad burn fine.
Hi G,
I checked out that website, and I can't even find a list of the ingredients
in IFM. How do you know for sure it contains A1? A number of forum posts on that site mention A1 in IFM, but I
don't see it listed anywhere as a confirmed ingredient.
And by the way, the description of IFM actually says,
"Instant Female Magic would not qualify as a cologne or perfume." Sounds to me like they are trying to avoid a
patent infringement lawsuit.
I stand by my original contention that only Erox has the right to use A1 in
combination with other common pheromones, regardless of whether an odorant is added. So, we are left to buying
chemset A1, Pheromax, or products with secret ingredients that are presumed to be A1. But again, there may be a
patent lawyer out there who understands this better and could explain how I am wrong on this matter.
Best,
CAt
terry0400-40
08-20-2007, 11:26 PM
There is also a product called Pheroline and its webpage which i will not reveal states that its
product contains Fragrance and also Androstadienone.
So they must have a licence to produce this
stuff that has been reveiwed on a few posts here and also on another forum.
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