View Full Version : Newbie experiments with PI
fletch69uk1
07-11-2007, 10:24 AM
Hi Guys
my 1st post after reading the boards for a while, Got my PI last Wednesday started to apply around 7.30am 1 to 2
drops + Paul Smith Extreme.. I'm white 36 Short, always have people not taking me very seriously. Ya no (Oh he's
cute but not sexy syndrome).:hammer: Anyhoo
Day 1 got a couple of unexpected hits. One girl was walking towards me
so I slowed down to let her pass. she walked into me she looked very confused,:confused: Nice! Nothing really much
after that and was getting a bit disappointed. Today Day 7 used just 1 drop at 9am. 1 girl who I sit with at work
who normally looks at me as if she's drunk some piss could not stop talking to me and looked really flustered all
day. Also my Technical Manager was asking me what he should do with some work that's never happened before! Am I
just imagining this? Think I might order some SOE or
Chikara (http://www.love-scent.com/product_info.php/c/mens-pheromones/p/chikara-gel-packs-for-men/cPath/6/products_i
d/72?osCsid=d0f1a89263ce76b45211e6534eefe898) (unscented) to compliment the PI. Any Ideas
about dosage? Sorry if this is a long post
Darren
terry0400-40
07-11-2007, 01:38 PM
Hi Guys my 1st post after reading the boards for a while, Got my PI last Wednesday
started to apply around 7.30am 1 to 2 drops + Paul Smith Extreme.. I'm white 36 Short, always have people not
taking me very seriously. Ya no (Oh he's cute but not sexy syndrome).:hammer: Anyhoo
Day 1 got a couple of
unexpected hits. One girl was walking towards me so I slowed down to let her pass. she walked into me she looked
very confused,:confused: Nice! Nothing really much after that and was getting a bit disappointed. Today Day 7 used
just 1 drop at 9am. 1 girl who I sit with at work who normally looks at me as if she's drunk some piss could not
stop talking to me and looked really flustered all day. Also my Technical Manager was asking me what he should do
with some work that's never happened before! Am I just imagining this? Think I might order some SOE or
Chikara (http://www.love-scent.com/product_info.php/c/mens-pheromones/p/chikara-gel-packs-for-men/cPath/6/products_i
d/72?osCsid=d0f1a89263ce76b45211e6534eefe898) (unscented) to compliment the PI. Any Ideas
about dosage? Sorry if this is a long post
DarrenSure one drop
PI can be an OD sometimes as sometimes 1/2 drop can be very effective.
But either 1/2 or 1 or 2 can be effective. It just depends on the wearer and also the
conditions.
With concentrated Androstenone products its best to
start out with a small dab and check out the effects in different situations.
There are occasions when one drop will actually repel somepeople and really attract
others
So it looks like you are on the right track, but you may
also cut back and check out the benefits.
Also try and take a
day or two off from the aNONE each week so as not to get any excessive buildup of the product, and is also good to
thoroughly clean the application areas at bath time.
Also Scent
of Eros will be your very best choice to wear with the PI and you should have some real good success with with a 24"
roll on amount or even a gel/pkt.
SOE is a great product so
again use less or more depending on the occasion.
CAtriathlete
07-11-2007, 10:26 PM
terry-
Roll on 24" of
SOE? That sounds like quite a lot! I've never used more than 6", and that seems like plenty by the smell of it. Is
that a typo or do you really recomment that much?
-CAt
terry0400-40
07-12-2007, 12:40 AM
terry-
Roll on 24" of SOE? That sounds like quite a lot! I've never used more than
6", and that seems like plenty by the smell of it. Is that a typo or do you really recomment that much?
-CAtHi ya Cat- yes 24" is close to 3/4 of a gel/pkt in pheromone content
and there are several users i know who use 24" as their standard amount.
My average usual amount is 30" and at that usage rate a bottle would usually give me about 64
applications.
The amount of pheromone in a bottle of SOE is
equal to 62.5 gel/pks.
And the reccomended amount of gel/pkt
use is about 7/8ths pkt.
It suits me to use it at that amount
and at 64 applications it still works out as a cheap shot
Goodness though if 6" suits you then i really think that is wonderfull and really cool, so good
luck you will get an amazing run for your $ from one bottle.
I
like the best of both worlds and i very often will wear say 20mcg of Androstenone very comfortable gaining male
respect and also feminine hits.
Sometimes i will wear less SOE
when the conditions warrant a lesser application.
Also i do not
wear my SOE Surefire mixes every day, Sometimes only once a week if my perceived windows of opportunity are going to
be open so as to warrant a Surefire mix.
I am not that
concerned with trying to score really much more than i am getting very easily right
now.
But on the occasions that i want some extra attention and
surefire hits then i put enough mix on to give me a guaranteed 7 hours of action. :cheers: PS i use the
Unscented.
fletch69uk1
07-12-2007, 10:30 AM
Thanks for the input guys, will defiantly get the SOE. I've read a little more about
Chikara (http://www.love-scent.com/product_info.php/c/mens-pheromones/p/chikara-gel-packs-for-men/cPath/6/products_i
d/72?osCsid=d0f1a89263ce76b45211e6534eefe898) and it seams to be very hit & miss.
Day 8 - did
the same as yesterday me and my new found friend were chatting again, she couldn't stop playing with her hair and
lots of eye contact. This reaction is starting to scare me lol! I'm going to take Terry's advice and give it a
rest until Monday.
Darren
terry0400-40
07-12-2007, 11:55 AM
Thanks for the input guys, will defiantly get the SOE. I've read a little more about
Chikara (http://www.love-scent.com/product_info.php/c/mens-pheromones/p/chikara-gel-packs-for-men/cPath/6/products_i
d/72?osCsid=d0f1a89263ce76b45211e6534eefe898) and it seams to be very hit & miss.
Day 8 - did
the same as yesterday me and my new found friend were chatting again, she couldn't stop playing with her hair and
lots of eye contact. This reaction is starting to scare me lol! I'm going to take Terry's advice and give it a
rest until Monday.
DarrenHey why not get some SOE gel/pks and give
them a test out and see how you go with the stuff first.
Like SOE will be best to go with the
PI.
But even
though Chikara does nothing for me yet, i am 55.
It seems to work ok alone at one or 2 sprays
for young guys.
I have spoken to men a little younger than myself and none of us have had much luck with
it.
So it
may be just a young guy thing mainly, i have only seen one or two older men succeeding with
C7.
I still
have not given up as i have a spray of it once in awhile. :wave:
College_Man
07-12-2007, 04:59 PM
Also i do not wear my SOE Surefire mixes every
day, Sometimes only once a week if my perceived windows of opportunity are going to be open so as to warrant a
Surefire mix.
I am not that concerned with trying to score
really much more than i am getting very easily right now.
But
on the occasions that i want some extra attention and surefire hits then i put enough mix on to give me a guaranteed
7 hours of action. :cheers: PS i use the Unscented.
Terry i see you always talking about
your mixes, do you have a thread with them i could check out somewhere?
terry0400-40
07-12-2007, 05:30 PM
Terry i see you always talking about your mixes, do you have a thread with them i could
check out somewhere?Ho, just spotted this, I dont receive any email
notification when there is a reply to a thread i have posted on, i used to but it just stopped sending
them.
So lucky to catch this one in
passing.
I
do not have any specific threads with my mixes as i only only mention them whenever i obtain an amazing
result.
I
have posted some mixes up over a period of time in random fashion.
But now that you have mentioned it Maby i
should start a thread and keep it going and put my responces to the mixes down every so
often.
I
will think about it and see if i could be capable of sutch an undertaking.
That is if there would be much interest in my
mixes as i think they are all pretty much simple recipes with several popular products.
I have not even had a vast experience
with A1 or even Beta Androstenol as yet.
The closest i have come is using IFM probably.
And i did receive some A1 from a manufacturer
about a year ago but it was a sample and i did not notice anything from it, but then again it was only a small
amount and i only dabbed it now and then.
So i probably should not start a major mix thread until i can afford to order
and test other important pheromones and reagent grade supplies.
HAHAHA i may be too old by that time. :wave:
College_Man
07-12-2007, 06:09 PM
But now that you have mentioned it Maby i should
start a thread and keep it going and put my responces to the mixes down every so often.
I will think about it and see if i could be capable of sutch an
undertaking.
That is if there would be much interest in my
mixes as i think they are all pretty much simple recipes with several popular products.
I have not even had a vast experience with A1 or even Beta Androstenol as
yet.
The closest i have come is using IFM
probably.
And i did receive some A1 from a manufacturer about
a year ago but it was a sample and i did not notice anything from it, but then again it was only a small amount and
i only dabbed it now and then.
So i probably should not start
a major mix thread until i can afford to order and test other important pheromones and reagent grade supplies.
HAHAHA i may be too old by that time. :wave:
well...i don't even know what A1 is...so i doubt that would be a problem for me and
probably most other newbies ;)
WorkingMann
07-13-2007, 06:54 AM
Terry I think you should
make that thread with your mixes..
And I'm working on some sort of newbie help and cookbook improvement so I wanna
ask you.. If I finish it could I use your mixes and put into it?
fletch69uk1
07-13-2007, 10:02 AM
Don't you just love spell
checks! I shouldn't be so lazy. A cookbook as a sticky would be a good idea. It would be interesting to see what
success different types of guys have using the mixes. Didn't use PI today that girl was back to her usual grumpy
old self. There's definitely something in this. Might try to OD one day just for the crack:wave:( no pun
intended).
Darren
terry0400-40
07-13-2007, 01:10 PM
Terry I think you should make that thread with your mixes..
And I'm working on some
sort of newbie help and cookbook improvement so I wanna ask you.. If I finish it could I use your mixes and put into
it?Yes sure thing WM, I have a few Top Hit mix formula and also several
good Asian recipies. :wub:
CAtriathlete
07-13-2007, 03:47 PM
Hey Terry,
Wow, I
don't know why I am seem so sensitive to small amounts of mones. I can easily smell SOE (unscented), and can't
bear the stench on me if I use more than about 6-7". I can't imagine what it would be like to use 24".
This may
explain why I haven't gotten many consistent public hits-- for me the value of mones has mainly been how women
react when we are close and intimate.
I seem to have two problems, actually:
1. As I've mentioned, I can't
stand the smell of mones if I use a lot
2. I seem to OD easily with A7 (I assume it's the -NONE).
So the
total mone mcgs for my standard dosage (1 drop of A7, 2 drops of A1, 4" of SOE) must be very low compared to what
other people use. You think this could explain the low hit rate?
And now I wonder if I am imagining the low OD
threshold, or if I just have such high amounts of mones naturally that I can't afford to add much before OD'ing.
Ideas?
-CAt
belgareth
07-13-2007, 07:22 PM
CAt, I'm with you. The low
doses seem to work great for me and the amounts others are wearing amazes me at times. There's no way on earth I
could wear those amounts without driving people away. Are you a hairy caucasion too?
CAtriathlete
07-13-2007, 08:23 PM
Ha, good guess Bel! Yes, I
am a hairy caucasian... except the top of my head! I'm not sure this is true or has anything to do with mones, but
I've always thought of myself as having a high testosterone level and the associated side effects.
Even before
I started wearing mones women have commented on how much they like my natural manly scent-- I shower daily but
haven't used underarm deodorant for years, or cologne ever. I do think in my mid-forties I still have a healthy
natural dose of -none. So I need to be careful I think.
Having said all that, I still haven't found the right
combo for DITH hits, and I wonder if I'm misreading some reactions as OD's when they may not be. I'm still at
this only 6 months, so I can see I need more experimentation.
Maybe I need to up my dose of SOE, even though I
think the smell is pretty strong above 6". Which brings me back to an important question: is it common/possible to
OD on mones other than -none?
-CAt
P.S. I really appreciate the wisdom you long-timers bring to the
forum. Thanks for your patience and responsiveness with us newbies!
WorkingMann
07-14-2007, 03:09 AM
Don't you just love spell checks! I shouldn't be so lazy. A cookbook as a sticky would
be a good idea. It would be interesting to see what success different types of guys have using the mixes. Didn't
use PI today that girl was back to her usual grumpy old self. There's definitely something in this. Might try to OD
one day just for the crack:wave:( no pun intended).
Darren
it wouldn't be a sticky.. It would be a
book with help for newbies plus recepies.. It's a collection of more or less what we always advice every newbie in
here to do.. How to test and for how long etc.. Just so it would be gathered one place with the mixes also and it
would (more or less) be a "complete" collection that could be edited through times also..
terry0400-40
07-14-2007, 12:21 PM
Hey Terry,
Wow, I don't know why I am seem so sensitive to small amounts of mones.
I can easily smell SOE (unscented), and can't bear the stench on me if I use more than about 6-7". I can't imagine
what it would be like to use 24".
This may explain why I haven't gotten many consistent public hits-- for me
the value of mones has mainly been how women react when we are close and intimate.
I seem to have two problems,
actually:
1. As I've mentioned, I can't stand the smell of mones if I use a lot
2. I seem to OD easily with A7
(I assume it's the -NONE).
So the total mone mcgs for my standard dosage (1 drop of A7, 2 drops of A1, 4" of
SOE) must be very low compared to what other people use. You think this could explain the low hit rate?
And now
I wonder if I am imagining the low OD threshold, or if I just have such high amounts of mones naturally that I
can't afford to add much before OD'ing.
Ideas?
-CAtHi Buddy, good
going but as i mentioned on another thread the A7 has a higher pheromone concentration per drop than the amount that
you perceive it to be.
As it is at least 20mcg per drop.
So this may
be sort of throwing your calculations out synk a little.
If i was using 20mcg aNONE i would certainly
up the SOE content more than 4".
CAtriathlete
07-14-2007, 05:48 PM
Yes, I definitely need to
up my SOE usage! I'll keep yo posted on new experiments. BTW, I tend to roll on SOE right at the top of my chest,
because I don't want my date to kiss it directly on my gills, and it's not easy to put behind the ears with the
roller.
I know I could pour it into a dropper bottle, but I'm wondering where else people have tried rolling
SOE with effectivenss. forearms? Hair (or bald head in my case)?
-CAt
belgareth
07-14-2007, 07:54 PM
The only two places I ever put
mones are on my forearms and my chest. Too close to my face irritates me, so the neck is out of the question.
terry0400-40
07-15-2007, 11:16 AM
Yes, I definitely need to up my SOE usage! I'll keep yo posted on new experiments. BTW,
I tend to roll on SOE right at the top of my chest, because I don't want my date to kiss it directly on my gills,
and it's not easy to put behind the ears with the roller.
I know I could pour it into a dropper bottle, but
I'm wondering where else people have tried rolling SOE with effectivenss. forearms? Hair (or bald head in my
case)?
-CAtWhen using SOE i always roll it out on to my index finger
at about 6" at a time and then apply it wherever i desire.
This way i can always see exactly how it is
flowing in way of delivering the correct amounts, and either index finger is good way of spreading it exactly where
i want it.
Or else i use it in my preprepared mix sprayers.
Which thanks to you, i am thinking of adding
some A1 to some of these mixtures.
CAtriathlete
07-15-2007, 11:29 AM
I know there are some
veterans here who might dispute this, but based on my reading, A1 is the most proven pheromone. But it's an issue
that A1's effectiveness is geared towards a general sense of ease rather than attention-getting or a perception of
sexual power. That's why I think it's a great supplement to -none.
Check out these research links, just a few
of the many on A1:
http://home.uchicago.edu/~decety/publications/Gulyas_NI04.pdf
http://www.senseofsmell.org/acr/Vol
ume_VII_No_%204.pdf
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2007/02/06_sweat.shtml
[URL]http:
//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/eutils/escan.fcgi?db=PubMed&uid=10737699&dopt=Citation&field=Title&DateField=MeshDate[
/URL]
And based upon my personal research, it is quite effective in making women more comfortable and
affectionate.
I think a lot more products would use it/list it if it weren't patented by Pheromax. IMHO, it
should be a top choice for any personal combo.
-CAt
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