Pheromones for attracting college girls

[College_Man]

Im relatively new to all this. Ive been lurking for a little bit and finally felt i needed to ask some

questions. From the posts Ive read it seems most people are older or are trying to attract a different age woman

than me.
That brings me to my information. Im 18 (mainly white) and am going to be starting college and want to in

general improve my image and have more success with the ladies. Ive been looking a bit at some of DeAngelo's stuff,

and have been going to the gym on and off for over a year. i am a relatively quiet kid the first few days up to

maybe a week around new people (especially girls). though after that i can be very social and talkative. But this

doesn't matter as much becuase first impressions are very important, and i don't want to come off as the shy,

quiet loser type. I think pheromones can probably help me with this, if i project a confident image which i should

be able to do.
I also want to attract girls/women from the age of 18 to say 21.
So i am interested in pheromones

for pretty much sexual/sexual-chatty hits as sexual and sexual-chatty hits from girls will raise respect from males

as well as other females. I do not want to come off as gay to anyone so i think im going to use probably at least

one spray of some product with a decent amount of none per day.

I currently have about 1/2 a bottle of edge

left. I have had a few hits, one major (almost DIHL id say), all the others not. (i'd been using 2 sprays of edge

from the Pocket atomizer) I also tried some perception gels (no solid hits; used about 3/4 packet each time) and

chikara gels(no hits; used 3/4 packet usually) and SPMO with the Edge(which i don't like the smell of, but i got a

the really good hit from with edge). I really disliked the way chikara smelled (smells exactly like every other guy

as its the same as Axe Kilo), and i have plenty of good cologne for attracting girls my age (victoria's secret VS1,

magnetism, 212, Envy, and others). becuase of this im looking for an unscented product or very lightly scented

product.


I was thinking of possibly getting SOE unscented and one other product and am not looking to spend

more than a bit over one bill, maybe 150 max.

What are you're suggestions for what I should get?
What amounts

of the products would you use in a classroom/close-quarters situation? a party/club situation?

If i could pull

from just having a girl walk by me at a club or party, that would be awesome. Ive read some reports of that from

some of the pros. How much of which products are recommended to get these reactions from young(18-21yo) girls? (i

know these reactions are few and far between)

thanks for all of your help

[belgareth]

If you were getting hits from

TE, SoE might not be worthwhile. TE is mostly -none and SoE has no -none in it. I think you should either stay with

TE/NPA or try AE or A7. SoE mixed with TE might be worthwhile as well but not straight SoE in your case.

[CptKipling]

Actually, I would definitely

recommend SOE. It really helps with social freedom because it gets everyone chatting! Oh and I would also get the

scented version, just because I love the scent!

Your first couple of days and weeks are very important, but an

incredible journey!

When I have more time and have collected my thoughts I'll post some non-pheromonal advice

to help you make as big a splash as possible.

[College_Man]

thanks for the replies.



CptK, I look forward to reading your collected thoughts :).

About the SOE scent though does it blend well

with other colognes? I sandalwood scents ive smelled in the past have been a bit overpowering and older smelling

than i want. Also, im going to college in the south (US) so i thought the scent may be too overpowering in the heat.



I have a few more questions

Am i correct in thinking oils are better than alcohols in the heat?

belgareth

do you think A7 or AE would be better in combination with SOE?

Would be a worthwhile phero to get or is

SOE/TE more effective?

[belgareth]

belgareth do you think A7 or AE would be better in combination with SOE?

Would be a worthwhile phero to

get or is SOE/TE more effective?
A7 seems to have a greater -none concentration than AE and needs to be

covered. It would be better than AE to mix with SoE. AE or A7, either one would be a good stand alone to test first.

My suggestion would be to try AE first as a stand alone.

I've been using the AQ uscented for several months now

and seeing great results. Got another excellent hit from a cute young checker at the grocery store this afternoon. I

do cover it as it stinks.

[WorkingMann]

thanks for the replies.

CptK, I look forward to reading your collected thoughts :).



About the SOE scent though does it blend well with other colognes? I sandalwood scents ive smelled in the past

have been a bit overpowering and older smelling than i want. Also, im going to college in the south (US) so i

thought the scent may be too overpowering in the heat.

I have a few more questions

Am i correct in thinking

oils are better than alcohols in the heat?

belgareth do you think A7 or AE would be better in combination with

SOE?

Would be a worthwhile phero to get or is SOE/TE more effective?


Oil has a slower

evaporation time so it lasts longer in the heat where alcohol based mones evaporate much faster..
So I would also

go with oil mones basically and as Bel says.. I can only recommend AE and Soe..
AE have given me great results and

the smell.. Ohhh I LOVE it :wub:
But always try these products as standalone first for 2-3 weeks without mixing to

see what ratios works for you, and what they does for you.. And after 3 weeks you know what this product gives you

(social results, sexual, respect or anything else) and which ratios works best for you and when you OD on this

product..
And when you have done this for both AE alone and Soe alone you can consider.. Do you want to mix the

results you have seen..
Fx. Soe gives friendly and chatty results and AE gives more flirty and sexual results.. If

you mix the two you can end up being friendly with a sexual edge..
And then when mixing these you have to test

again as this mixing can cause you need lot more AE or SOE then else or different ratios of the two products than

before..
Good luck with the testing :wave:

[CptKipling]

just a quick note, I'm on my

way out: SOE smells great according to a LOT of girls. What the scent combines with will be a matter for

experimentation. Oh and its a sweet-ish musky smell rather that sandalwood.

[College_Man]

So this is what i'm

planning to get at the moment.

SOE - I found an SOE gel and im going to see if I like the scent on my next

occasion to use soe.
AE Gels - AE seems to be the best standalone so i figured it would be the best if I had it

portable. also i want to test out the scent.
Chikara Unscented - seems to work well for young guys, but didn't

like the scent. I might not get this, depends on if i have enough money.
A7 - probably gonna need another none

product since im getting all of these friendly mones.
Xcite Wipes - seems like a good portable product.

[CptKipling]

Unfortunately for your testing,

I find that SOE gels do not smell the same as the roll on.


Ok these are some of my thoughts RE non-pheromonal

advice (by the way, some people might comment that this is a little militant and anal, but this is how to get the

best results. If you want less than that, thats ok too):

1. First impression is very important. That is,

when someone first sees you, whatever image, style, personality, confidence, value, interesting-ness etc. that they

see will play a massive role in deciding whether they find you attractive or not.

In practical terms, this means

that you have to look cool...all of the time. You have to look comfortable in social situations, around guys and

especially around girls. A very important thing to bear in mind is that social proof is VERY powerful; girls will be

constantly trying to assess the following about you:

a) "DOES THIS GUY SOCIALISE WITH AND CONSISTANTLY

PULL/DATE/SLEEP WITH ATTRACTIVE GIRLS LIKE ME". This is probably the most important one.

b) "What do other guys

think of this guy?" Leaders of men generally get the girls.

It also helps a lot of you are generally seen to be a

fun guy, always having fun and making other guys and girls have fun around you. Although not in some kind of circus

act way, your not doing it to impress anyone.


2. Your first INTERACTION is even more important!! Again,

the "does this guy get girls like me" thing comes up. Think about the kinds of things you say around girls you could

easily get, and things you say around your guy mates. Be comfortable, be adventurous with what you say. Do not

decide her value as a person based on her looks, if she has to be her best self to make you smile or even engage her

properly in a conversation she will respect you for it, and she will even feel better being around you for it. Think

about a bratty kid, very easily impressed by you and laughs at anything. Notice how you respect your friends and

adults in general MORE for having to work just that little bit harder for attention and acknowledgement, and that

you feel more rewarded for getting it. It's exactly the same for girls when it comes to guys.


If you can make

these two points go really well with most girls, you will be a very sort after guy.

Ok, so I've given you a

goal, but how do you tick those boxes? Weeeellll, there is no easy way. The ONLY way to to it is to practice...a

lot. But luckily, practicing is as simple as talking to a lot of girls you find attractive with these points in mind

until it becomes natural. Guess what happens then? You've already become a guy who socialises with attractive

girls, and HOPEFULLY, you will also become very comfortable*** around them which will lead to attraction.

You

should also make sure hygiene and your personal style and dress sense is good. When I say good, I don't mean the

kind of style and clothes that girls will necessarily say they LIKE, I mean the types of styles and clothes that

guys have/wear who girls actually sleep with. Period.

Classic example of this: A friend of mine changed his hair

style in a big way a couple of months ago, when I asked why he said that he asked some girls that he knew and they

said they liked it like that when he had it that way before. Now, this guy has not exactly grown up as a player, and

I know he didn't sleep with any of these girls and they probably didn't find him attractive or have him in their

imaginary "yes" pile. They knew him as just being a friend, so gave him style advice based on that perspective. I'm

not saying that he couldn't have gotten the right answers from those girls, but he didn't.

Practice telling

fun, interesting stories (hint: topics might include fun, interesting and notable things). If these stories happen

to cast you in a favourable light (although NOT as their main theme) then all the better!


*** If you are

comfortable around attractive girls, the resulting behaviour is VERY obvious, at least to them. You make fun of them

for being silly, if they do or say something you don't agree with then you disagree or walk away. You speak more

naturally and carry yourself with less tension. You are genuinely interested in their conversation instead of

wondering if they like you or what you can get from them, and you will be judging them socially just like anyone who

isn't visually stunning. Talking to attractive girls should not be a big deal to you. If you are comfortable with

attractive girls, it's basically subcomunicating that they can be comfortable with you. It means that if they pay

you some attention or even hint that they are interested that it will not be a big deal for you and that you won't

go all WEIRD and CREEPY (too very scary words if you're a girl, think stalker and potential rapist).


Ok thats

all for now!

Please ask questions if ANYTHING is unclear; no doubt I made no sense at times. Just because it

makes sense in my head I can't expect it instantly make sense to anyone else, and there is no point in me writing

it if you don't understand.

:thumbsup:

[CAtriathlete]

Wow CK! That's a great

piece. Thanks for reminding all of us that context is important and mones never stand alone-- and you did it with

such actionable detail as well.

It's funny, because I've been thinking about tongue-in-cheek pick up lines

that go with each mone product:

PI:
"Don't I look familiar? I'm the guy who will knock out any man who ever

harrasses you."

TE:
"Need a lift? I'll give you the ride of your life!"

SOE:
"Hi there, want to talk

about how you are feeling today?"

A1:
"Forget that Midol. Come here and have a good cry on my shoulder."



Okay, I'm no humor writer, but you get the drift. I welcome any other "guaranteed" pick up lines that work with

particular mones.

-CAt

[WorkingMann]

CK I know this you've just

told.. But always wondered about something..:
you go to a private party and you really impress the girls and guys..

All thinks you're funny and a great guy.. Suddenly you feel the chicks starts to like you and look at you in a

different way.. You like it and just enjoy.. Don't go all weird over it and just keeps the work going..
Then you

get drunk and starts being stupid..
Fx. tries to kiss one of the girls you know "did" like you.. She

refuses..

Have you now blown it?
or will she just refuse because you're embarrassing when you're that

drunk..?
:think::blink:

[CptKipling]

WorkingMann,

It depends on

what you did to embarrass your self! However if you do stupid things that aren't cool, and come off as a little

weird and dorky then that will put most girls off (unless you somehow frame what you do as cool...I don't

know).

However, the her cooling off may only be temporary as long as you play it right when you next see the

girl. Although its kind of hard to be more specific without knowing more about your situation, there could be other

stuff going on too.

[Muscle4Hire]

Cptkipling good notes

there...

Pheromones will only get your foot in the door. I find them only effective on first impressions. If

you have them then, you'll know it and everytime you meet up you are wearing them, they will be yours.
However,

this success with women needs to come from a place inside of you. It's who you are. I've done experiments where I

wore a bunch of SOE and had girls touchy feely and all over me but I acted like a complete dick and they were soooo

turned off. Basically, pheros will keep them around you longer and allow more mess ups than usual. If shes extremely

hot usually you get 1 strike but lets say after some Chikara its usually 3. It's really good when you meet girl to

just start talking to them and making them feel comfortable with you. This way, she will have enough time to whiff

the pheromones. Walk aways are powerful too... where you talk for 5-10 mins, walk away and shes off that pheros

"high" and then when you come back... BOOM right back in again. Do this once or twice more and you'll

understand.
I love pheros because they really open up the doors for women to see your personality. Women just want

to feel comfortable, sexy, and safe around a man and thats what pheros accomplish right off the bat.

[CptKipling]

Thanks


I love pheros because they really open up the doors for women to see your

personality. Women just want to feel comfortable, sexy, and safe around a man and thats what pheros accomplish right

off the bat.

Nice post. If you think of any pick-up/seduction/start-of-a-relationship-with -a-girl/etc.

as a series of steps, it's like pheros make those steps easier and you get more chances if you mess up slightly.

But I agree, the most important thing a person can do in this, or any, field is to develop themselves. Call it inner

game, whatever, but working from the inside out and becoming a "better" person is a FAR more effective method.

[College_Man]

thanks for all of your

advices, Esp CptKipling.

Anyway, so im gonna be meeting some of the people going to my college over the weekend,

and was wondering what you all thought would be good to wear. Right now im thinking a dab of TE behind each ear and

some combo of SOE and/or Chikara as that is what i have.

Ive been testing over the past few days.
A few day

ago, Im pretty sure I OD'd on the none as i was on a train sitting accross (facing her apprx 4 ft away) from a

beautiful girl, and i started talking about the book she was reading w/ my friend, but she didn't even look up once

(pretty sure she heard). probably was intimidated/thought i smelled. I probably should have opened as someone

naturally having that much none would have. My bad. But anyway, that may have been an OD and my personality isn't

really opening in situations like that so i should probably reduct the amount. I was wearing a full pack of

perception(have seen no results) as well so i thought the nol would lessen the OD effects of TE but i don't think

it did cuz of that stupid water/polymer matrix crap.

In another experiment the day before, I tried 2 dabs, and

saw no results except for a lady being quite nice, and then asking me to hold her place in line, after i cut in

front of her in line at a chemists (i think). that day I also wore a half pack of SOE in addition to the TE. seemed

to work. That day i didn't OD, so im thinking 2 dabs (one behind each ear) for the event.
The fact that its an

alcohol may be a problem as well, its summer here and quite hot, but the locations im going to are AC'd so the TE

alcohol is probably burning up pretty fast outside. I'm also taking some stimulants (MAN Scorch), as well as a free

test booster which may help with none output, so should i even use none?

So right now im deciding between using

TE, Chikara and SOE (or a combo) and how much. In my mind i combined the smell of Escada Magnetism w/ the smell of

Chikara and think itll come out nicely, so I shouldn't have a problem with that.
before when i stated i didn't

have results w/ chikara, i really didn't give it a full test and was with mostly guys, not girls, and one guy did

give me some sign of respect (don't remeber what it was) I was not expecting. Ill be trying Chikara tomorrow as

well probably (im gonna try one full pack alone) and see how that goes. if it goes well i may use 2 dabs TE, 1/2-3/4

pack SOE, and 1/2 pack Chikara.


in a completely unrelated topic, I like the scent of the SOE gel packs as its

almost unscented imo, can you explain the difference with it and the roll-on?

[Muscle4Hire]

thanks for all of your advices, Esp CptKipling.

Anyway, so im gonna be meeting some

of the people going to my college over the weekend, and was wondering what you all thought would be good to wear.

Right now im thinking a dab of TE behind each ear and some combo of SOE and/or Chikara as that is what i have.



Ive been testing over the past few days.
A few day ago, Im pretty sure I OD'd on the none as i was on a train

sitting accross (facing her apprx 4 ft away) from a beautiful girl, and i started talking about the book she was

reading w/ my friend, but she didn't even look up once (pretty sure she heard). probably was intimidated/thought i

smelled. I probably should have opened as someone naturally having that much none would have. My bad. But anyway,

that may have been an OD and my personality isn't really opening in situations like that so i should probably

reduct the amount. I was wearing a full pack of perception(have seen no results) as well so i thought the nol would

lessen the OD effects of TE but i don't think it did cuz of that stupid water/polymer matrix crap.

In another

experiment the day before, I tried 2 dabs, and saw no results except for a lady being quite nice, and then asking me

to hold her place in line, after i cut in front of her in line at a chemists (i think). that day I also wore a half

pack of SOE in addition to the TE. seemed to work. That day i didn't OD, so im thinking 2 dabs (one behind each

ear) for the event.
The fact that its an alcohol may be a problem as well, its summer here and quite hot, but the

locations im going to are AC'd so the TE alcohol is probably burning up pretty fast outside. I'm also taking some

stimulants (MAN Scorch), as well as a free test booster which may help with none output, so should i even use none?



So right now im deciding between using TE, Chikara and SOE (or a combo) and how much. In my mind i combined the

smell of Escada Magnetism w/ the smell of Chikara and think itll come out nicely, so I shouldn't have a problem

with that.
before when i stated i didn't have results w/ chikara, i really didn't give it a full test and was

with mostly guys, not girls, and one guy did give me some sign of respect (don't remeber what it was) I was not

expecting. Ill be trying Chikara tomorrow as well probably (im gonna try one full pack alone) and see how that goes.

if it goes well i may use 2 dabs TE, 1/2-3/4 pack SOE, and 1/2 pack Chikara.


in a completely unrelated topic,

I like the scent of the SOE gel packs as its almost unscented imo, can you explain the difference with it and the

roll-on?

No need for the TE, Chikara has you covered there. SOE gel pack scents are the only way to go,

the roll on smells a lot diff and it smells like a perfume. Chikara is great 2-3 sprays on the chest and SOE is

great on the inside of your arms and on your neck.

[College_Man]

How many sprays of Chikara

equals a gel pack?

Ill probably spread somewhere between 1/2 pack and a full pack of SOE on my arms and

something equivalent to 2 sprays of Chikara on my neck. Sounds good. Maybe 1 dab of TE? I think C7 may not be enough

on its own for me.