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WiZ83
06-20-2007, 10:54 AM
First of all,
hi, I'm new to this community, and generally new to pheromones.
Here's my story. How I encountered and learnt
about pheromones. I saw quite some advertisements, on Pherlure, and actually made a purchase, for 2 bottles get 1
free, for a total of $90 (for all 3 bottles shipped). I've used it for the last 2 weeks, and didn't notice any
differences, till yesterday maybe, I got hit at the gas station's cashier, saying I smell good, but I don't know
if it's just coz of the smell, or the phermones are actually working. I've done quite some research around lately,
and lots of people and websites, that aren't Pherlure related, claims Pherlure is a scam, and the ingredient they
claimed exists in them doesn't exist at all, so I might just try to return them, or maybe try it for another week
or so?
Anyway, I'm working at Rochester, MN, with IBM, and I'm 24 years old, graduated 2 years ago. I'm asian,
5'8", normal looking guy, around 180-190 lbs, and I'm originally born in Malaysia, of 100% pure Chinese
descendant, graduated in the USA with a degree, and got my job working now. I don't have problems getting girls
back in my home country, but sort of struggling to find my momentum here in the states.
I have just placed quite
a large order with Love-Scent, considering it's my first purchase with them, mostly the combo deals, and here's
what I'll be getting in the mail sometime between this week and next week:-
- Chikara
- Scent of Eros
-
NPA
- Super Primal
- The Edge
- And those freebies sample gel packs
And I've already currently own
these:-
- CK One
- CK Escape
- CK Eternity
- Davidoff Cool Water
- Boss #6 by Hugo Boss
- Hugo Cologne
by Hugo Boss
- Issey Miyake
- Jean Paul Gaultier Le Male
- Pherlure (at least till I return them for
refund)
I plan to use all these products to a great combination, and since I'm new to all of them, and
pheromones in general, I need help in finding the perfect combination. I plan to use these for the following:-
-
Office environment (most of the time I work remotely from home, but I have to go to office a couple times a week,
and I share an office with 3 other guys, and a lady)
- Bars/Clubs over the weekends
- Jazz Club (occasionally when
my colleagues need a place to relax after work)
- Poker Night (every Wednesday, a lot of my colleagues, males and
females, join up in one of our houses, and start up poker game, usually around 8 people, has been consisting 5 men,
and 3-4 women mostly)
I'm actually quite interested in one of my fellow co-worker, who's working at another
department within IBM, met her about 1-2 years ago, but haven't got the chance to talk much. I was thinking of
trying to approach her, and get some talking going, and hopefully, secure a date in the future (hopefully soon). I
don't know her exact age, but if I had to guess, I'd say around 23-28, seemed to look like she's a mixture of
Caucasian and Asian. The only time we get to talk is when she had to come over to my department to hand some
files/documents over.
Additional Info: I do have an Asian accent, which I don't know if it's going to affect
me. And I own a 2007 BMW 335i Coupe, which is pretty decent. Initially I thought I could get ladies with my car, but
I haven't got any since I broke up with my ex-girlfriend, so car doesn't help at all. :(
And I'm planning to
travel home to look for family and friends back in Malaysia in about 1 month's time, and hope that everything works
out back in Asia. Read that Asians tend to not like the smell of -none's, but I need more info.
Besides that,
since I'm only 24, and graduated 2 years ago, most of the people I know that works with me are older than me, and
already have a family, therefore I'd have to go to the bar mostly by myself. Any tips on meeting girls? I'm kind
of a shy guy on approaching strangers, especially female encounters, and tips on how to work on this would be
appreciated. It's kind of sad that my girlfriend left me, coz I'm living in an apartment all by myself now, 2
bedrooms, and it's kind of quiet. :( Since I'm not originally from USA, I've got no family members here, so I'm
desperate in getting out of the loneliness disease.
Comments/tips are well appreciated. Thanks a lot. I hope
that's not too much questions at a go (although I know it's a long post). :P
WiZ83
06-20-2007, 09:35 PM
Anyone able to help?
:POKE::wub:
BGuy20
06-20-2007, 10:35 PM
You'll have to be more specific
on which Hugo Boss fragrance you have. HB makes a Hugo line and a Boss line (Boss is more businesslike, Hugo seems
more nightclubby, plus there's a Hugo In Motion that's citrusy/sporty).
The Edge (if it's scented) is
sandalwood scented, so try to match on that. Basenotes.net is a great place to research what's in respective
fragrances. If you also happen upon a good cologne salesperson, they should be able to tell you as well.
I'd
suggest TE/SOE for experimenting and maybe graduating to NPA when you're serious. Haven't tried the NPA, but the
stories seem to suggest it's worth saving till you step up to the proverbial majors.
I'd also suggest
adding Lucky 6 to your cologne collection, it has an intriguing oriental scent to it that would probably go well
with your background, and IMHO it's the best cologne I have at mixing with pheros (the others being Drakkar Noir,
Armani Code, and Terre d'Hermes).
Most of all, don't hesitate to experiment and (most importantly) put
yourself in situations to meet women!
Dude, the only ladies interested in
you because of the BMW are not worth knowing. You want a woman that likes you for who you are, not what you drive.
Sure pheromones can help and probably will but in the end it's the person on the inside that gets to keep the
girl.
If you're lonely , go out and join some clubs , maybe even the local car enthusiasts club if you are into
that sort of thing. BTW , woman love dancing so a salsa/swing/ballroom class is major single girl territory.
Good
luck!
BGuy20
06-21-2007, 12:38 AM
I wouldn't say the girls
interested in your BMW aren't worth knowing. They're probably worth knowing in the biblical sense, but not the
dating sense, if you know what I mean. :rofl:
And as much as I'd like to believe that flowery "it's
what's inside that counts" stuff, as far as physical relationships, girls WANT the cocky asshole and not the meek
nice guy. You should tailor your personality/approach based on what you're looking for.
You should
tailor your personality/approach based on what you're looking for.
Thats what I do now , I do the
qualifying and holy crap it works for me.
It's great fun teasing the crap out of the golddiggers too , they
just fall apart once they realise you are on to them!:trout:
WiZ83
06-21-2007, 06:37 AM
I got 2 bottles of Hugo Boss.
-
Boss #6 by Hugo Boss
- Cologne Hugo by Hugo Boss
I'm personally not a big fan of Drakkar Noir, my dad loves it,
it gives me an impression that I'm old, as I'm only 24. I've read a lot of comments on Armani Code as well, but
I'm not a big fan Armani's lineup of fragrance. Most of them reminds me of the smell of toilet. So there's
nothing I can do with what I have? And I've forgot to mention I have Davidoff Cool Water, too.
Anyway, I wasn't
exactly expecting to get any serious ladies with my car, but I could expect to get someone to solve my loneliness
problems once a while, but that isn't the case. All my colleagues and friends think I should score big time with
that car, as it shows a status in a man, reliability and career, but I probably don't know how to put it into play
effectively.
Anyway, I could probably spend another $100-$150 within the next 1 month as soon as I get a refund
on my Pherlure ($80), and I'm looking to add other Pheromones or Fragrances. Lots of people say the A314 are great,
and how do they differ, compared to all those I mentioned that I purchased? And since I'll be traveling in a months
time, I'll be checking out more fragrances at the airport's duty free shop. Till then, I want to stick with what I
already have, so any experience with any of those fragrances/pheromones combo that I already have would really help.
My personal favorite at the moment are Escape, Eternity, and Cool Water.
ShyAsianGuy26
06-21-2007, 06:30 PM
Well, I pretty much had
the same experience with Pherlure except I only brought one bottle. Some of the ladies seem to like it but I think
its a rather feminine, but kept it anyway.
I mixed some NPA in it about 3mls or so. It became a rather decent
cologne spiked. I have the same problem with women... the NPA does increase their interest but don't put to much
NPA on because they get weird around you, not sure if its because Asians aren't meant to have to much -mones
on.
Atm, I have some SOE, C7 (chikara), NPA and some gene packs which needs more testing. But I can tell you that
SOE is the real deal.
WiZ83
06-22-2007, 12:43 AM
You mean, mix 3ml of NPA
into 30ml of Pherlure actually does the job?
BGuy20
06-22-2007, 01:46 AM
Well,
I pretty much had the same experience with Pherlure except I only brought one bottle. Some of the ladies seem to
like it but I think its a rather feminine, but kept it anyway.
I mixed some NPA in it about 3mls or so. It became
a rather decent cologne spiked. I have the same problem with women... the NPA does increase their interest but
don't put to much NPA on because they get weird around you, not sure if its because Asians aren't meant to have to
much -mones on.
Atm, I have some SOE, C7 (chikara), NPA and some gene packs which needs more testing. But I can
tell you that SOE is the real deal.
Weird is precisely the thing I want women to be around me.
MEOW!:whip:
It seems like NPA + SOE makes women go INSANE from what I've read on here. Can't wait to order it
and try! :D
WiZ83
06-22-2007, 02:08 AM
Damn man ... I've ordered
all those ... one of the local club here has a special night tomorrow ... Porn Stars gonna come clubbing here ...
I'm probably gonna go over there and have some fun ... but then my orders aren't in yet, not at least till next
week I guess ... unless miracles happen ... :(
BGuy20
06-22-2007, 02:17 AM
Wiz: Why not go anyways? I think
the worst thing that can happen is you go there and don't talk to the porn stars.
Get your dance and game on,
bro!
Try to talk to them if for no other reason than it's good practice talking to beautiful women. Being able
to talk to them helps inspire confidence, which meshes with the mone signal you'd be sending out (especially with
-None).
I think the important thing to remember is that mones are one part of a complete package you present to
women. If you wear mones but aren't really presentable, it might not present a consistent image to the woman. If
you don't present a consistent image to women, they call bullshit and there's NO way you can advance. Of course,
the non-presentable thing might say that you don't give a damn, and sometimes that's a turn-on.
I'm just
saying that you have to place mones in context with other things. Are you trying to get into better shape? Do you
have a wardrobe that's impressive? If you're just using mones to attract women and not changing anything else
about yourself, it would be like just working on one muscle group in your body trying to get into shape. And you'd
look like the guy on that Red Stripe "Moderation" commercial.
So use the porn star special thing as a way to
practice your game/approach and build your confidence. Even if you get shot down, you'll better know what works and
what doesn't. Edison had THOUSANDS of prototypes for the light bulb before he found one that worked well. It's a
good thing he never gave up! Even trying and failing can help your game. If your game is good, you look/feel good,
AND you have mones, heaven help the women you meet. :smite::whip:
WiZ83
06-22-2007, 02:45 AM
I'm definitely going to hit
the club tomorrow.
I guess I'll be experimenting stuffs.
All I've got now is Pherlure, I'll put it into
some serious test tomorrow.
There are 2 porn stars there tomorrow, and if I successfully bring one home, which is
unlikely, then I'd be the stud of the night. I bet there will be hundreds of people there, maybe a thousand ? I
don't know ... it's very well advertised ... they hand out flyers everywhere, posting posters, and putting them
onto car wipers ... cover charge will be $20 though ... it's usually $10 ... meh ...
WiZ83
06-22-2007, 02:51 AM
Argh, I just checked their
website, and notice they have a dress code.
It's Pink Porn Star night, everyone has to wear pink, which I don't
have. :(
BGuy20
06-22-2007, 02:58 AM
Wiz: Go out and buy a pink dress
shirt or polo before heading to the club. I think pink is actually in style now for men. Shouldn't be too hard to
find something.
Or just go and get a pink feather boa. :rofl:
Seriously, though, I've been reading
that little stuff like that (if you have the outgoing personality to pull it off) can be a good conversation starter
with women. At the very least, it gets them curious.
Good luck with the Pherlune and porn stars. You better
fill us in on how it went afterwards. :LOL:
WiZ83
06-22-2007, 03:04 AM
Don't worry ... I'll keep
you guys updated ... Pink ... hmm ... I'll see what I can get at the local mall ... Feather Boa ... Interesting ...
:P
terry0400-40
06-22-2007, 10:48 AM
Weird
is precisely the thing I want women to be around me. MEOW!:whip:
It seems like NPA + SOE makes women go INSANE
from what I've read on here. Can't wait to order it and try! :DI have
had some insane attention from women and also young women when wearing NPA and SOE ,
Funny thing though you have to get the
NPA right though or you will get nothing.
Sometimes i have gone out with my fresh mix on and have been completly ignored
by women as if i did not exist at all, and
Then after about an hour the hits just start to pour in, it seems to me that my
few good dabs of NPA must be an OD in the early stages
On the other hand i always tend to put more
on because it is just like a little runny alcohol and i think how can a few insignificant dabs of this do
anything
Well i have been beceived because i realize that the very smallest dabs of NPA can have a big
effect.
I
would say if you can not learn to be light handed with the NPA then go for a small spray of TE to start things
off.
I think
if it wasent for the grace of the SOE then so many of us could OD easily on NPA or other heavy weight aNONE
products.
Remember a drop of PI or A7 is around 20 mcg aNONE and drop NPA is close to
it,
Asian
women can easily notice 1/4 drop or around 5mcg aNONE,
So when trawling for Asian Babes even 3mcg is
enough to register on their sensitivities, :wub:
And "when used alone" it is very easy to get the attention of most suceptable
women with between 5 mcg or 12 mcg Anone.
I have noticed some young men not getting the results they have envisioned with
pheromones, and all i can say is go easy on the Androstenone :nono: as you already make heaps of the stuff
natutally.
I
think all young men beginning on the road with pheromones should have some SOE or some WAGG or a combination of both
to use as softening and attraction agents to start off their collection, and to
have some on standby when using concentrated
Androstenone products. :thumbsup:
WiZ83
06-22-2007, 11:24 AM
You guys know what? I placed
all those orders at 4am 20th June (Wednesday), then the order was shipped out from Colorado on 20th June 11am, and
it arrived here today Friday 22nd June at 1:20pm. I was using regular First Class Mail, I received the package right
after I went to the mall during my lunch break to get a Pink Shirt, and went home and put the shirt on, and saw the
post man there. All I can say is, I'm very impressed with Love-Scent's service, and best still, USPS's First
Class mail took 2 days to get it shipped from Colorado, which is about 22 hours drive away from here.
I will have
the opportunity to test them to the full extent tonight. I will keep everybody posted. :)
BGuy20
06-22-2007, 11:46 AM
Good luck tonight. NPA + SOE +
Porn stars = uh oh. You better come back with some good stories!
Also, don't assume that they'll bang you
right away just because they're porn stars. Most of the behind-the-scenes stuff they do with porn stars show they
treat it just like a normal job.
Still, it should be fun. Knock em dead!
WiZ83
06-22-2007, 12:17 PM
Okay, these is what I got, I
need someone to recommend me something to put on, something to start with before I head over visit those porn
stars.
- 15ml Chikara
- NPA Pheromone Additive
- Musk Oil with Pheromones (Came with Noob Combo, don't know
what's this)
- Atomizer (Empty Bottle, don't know what to mix in it)
- 10ml Scent of Eros (Roller)
- 24ml The
Edge (I don't know if this is Scented/Unscented/Concentrate? I'm confused with the instructions that came with
it)
A Bunch (as in a lot, like 21 packs of Gel Packs (below):
- 3x Alter Ego The Packet
- 6x The Edge for Him
Pheromone Attractant
- 3x Chikara Gel Pack
- 5x Scent of Eros Gel Pack
- 4x Perception Human Pheromone Attractant
1ml
Please tell me what to start with.
And on top of those mentioend above, are the colognes I mentioned in
the original post.
Please tell me what to start with, I've got another 6-7 hours before I head over to the club.
Before 10pm, 50% cover charge. :)
Oh by the way, I opened up every bottles to sniff it a bit, I don't know
if this is the effect of it, my mouth seemed to be a bit runny, as in, it's wet, full of saliva, for the last 15
minutes, is this common?
WiZ83
06-22-2007, 03:23 PM
Just got home from
work.
Still no recommendation?
What I'm planning to do, if I don't get any response, is to do these ...
-
apply 2 dabs of NPA ...
- then roll 12 inches of SoE ...
- then cover with 2 sprays of Chikara ...
- thinking if
I should cover with my other colognes? CK Escape ? Eternity ? Cool Water ? I don't know how they'd blend ...
-
still deciding if I should spay to my upperchest/neck, or wrist ... sigh ...
Please, someone tell me if what I
planned above is too much ... trying to achieve something tonight ... whether porn stars or not ... I hope I'm not
firing blank ... lol I'm probably a bit too ambitious, but ... oh well ... :(
Mtnjim
06-22-2007, 03:51 PM
I would just stick with the NPA and
SoE, a proven mix.
WiZ83
06-22-2007, 04:28 PM
How much NPA, and how much
SoE? Don't I need any cover scent?
BGuy20
06-22-2007, 06:11 PM
Just a DROP of NPA. Apparently
any more can be an overdose.
If you have the roller, 12" to 24" of SOE seems like the preferred
amount.
Haven't tried either, but other posts seem to suggest this might be a good mix.
You MIIIGHT
be able to get away with 2 drops of NPA since these girls probably are used to dealing with alpha guys (they do so
at work). I'd keep a pocket wet wipe handy so you can clean up if you notice any OD reactions to the NPA.
BGuy20
06-22-2007, 06:14 PM
I'd say cover it up with Le
Male, unless the SoE is scented. If SoE is scented, I'll try to look up what would go with it.
WiZ83
06-23-2007, 10:40 AM
Hi ... as promised ..
here's my story ...
What I did was:
- 1 full drop of NPA
- approimately 12 inch of SoE
- 2 sprays of
Chikara
- 2 sprays of CK Escape
They were all applied to my wrist, rubbed both wrist together, and then rubbed
it over my neck. I applied extra 1 spray of CK Escape to my neck ...
Experience ... I went clubbing by myself ...
there were 3 porn stars there total ... and a porn industry producer throwing the party ... and having a contest,
where 1 person will get a chance to be the next porn star, and win a boob job ...
Anyway, I went there, got a
couple drink, dance a bit, I wasn't great at dancing, then sat by the bar for a while, and tried to get some eye
contacts ... I didn't notice much, as I didn't have ladies approaching me ... so after an hour or so, I decided to
approach 4 ladies sitting by a table, talked a bit and stuffs ... exchanged telephone numbers, I gave them my
name/business card, they gave me theirs, on my cell phone ... I don't know if I got the real deal/number, as I
haven't gave them a call yet ... anyway, these 3 out of 4 of those ladies were pretty hot, and I won't mind
hooking up with them soon. We talked a lot, and dance for a while, I kinda sucked at dancing, so I don't know if I
actually embarassed myself there ... but they seemed to giggle or laugh a lot at me ... maybe I'm their laughing
stock ? :( I don't know if there's any effects from the mones I applied ... It was pretty crazy, as I really made
myself do stuffs I don't usually do ... got a couple drink, and toss myself towards these 4 pretty ladies table and
invited myself to sit down and chat with them ...
Anyway, I'm going to another bar tonight ... I don't know if
I should use the same combination ...
P.S. - I got home empty handed, yet again ... :( But I got 4 new numbers
on my cell ... which I don't know if they're actual working numbers ... won't know till maybe a couple days
later, I'll try calling ... Didn't score, so it's kinda disappointing night? Or maybe went pretty well, don't
know yet, we'll see ...
terry0400-40
06-23-2007, 11:16 AM
Hi ... as promised .. here's my story ...
What I did was:
- 1 full drop of NPA
- approimately 12 inch of SoE
- 2 sprays of Chikara
- 2 sprays of CK Escape
They were all applied to my wrist, rubbed both wrist together, and then rubbed it over my neck. I applied
extra 1 spray of CK Escape to my neck ...
Experience ... I went clubbing by myself ... there were 3
porn stars there total ... and a porn industry producer throwing the party ... and having a contest, where 1 person
will get a chance to be the next porn star, and win a boob job ...
Anyway, I went there, got a
couple drink, dance a bit, I wasn't great at dancing, then sat by the bar for a while, and tried to get some eye
contacts ... I didn't notice much, as I didn't have ladies approaching me ... so after an hour or so, I decided to
approach 4 ladies sitting by a table, talked a bit and stuffs ... exchanged telephone numbers, I gave them my
name/business card, they gave me theirs, on my cell phone ... I don't know if I got the real deal/number, as I
haven't gave them a call yet ... anyway, these 3 out of 4 of those ladies were pretty hot, and I won't mind
hooking up with them soon. We talked a lot, and dance for a while, I kinda sucked at dancing, so I don't know if I
actually embarassed myself there ... but they seemed to giggle or laugh a lot at me ... maybe I'm their laughing
stock ? :( I don't know if there's any effects from the mones I applied ... It was pretty crazy, as I really made
myself do stuffs I don't usually do ... got a couple drink, and toss myself towards these 4 pretty ladies table and
invited myself to sit down and chat with them ...
Anyway, I'm going to another bar tonight ... I
don't know if I should use the same combination ...
P.S. - I got home empty handed, yet again
... :( But I got 4 new numbers on my cell ... which I don't know if they're actual working numbers ... won't know
till maybe a couple days later, I'll try calling ... Didn't score, so it's kinda disappointing night? Or maybe
went pretty well, don't know yet, we'll see ...
Not bad, Rome was
not built in a day.
And at least you have got out and shown some
initiative, so good work, Action leads to results, as long as it is good fun and enjoyable keep at it and the sweet
fruits will be in your hand.
When i go out to Bad girls or to a club i get really good results with NPA x 1 drop + about 48"
SOE ( this is about the same as 1+1/2 gel/ pkt SOE ) and also 2 sprays of C7.
When i have had on 48" SOE with my A7 or NPA i have had comments from chicks saying " you smell
sexy"
It may
seem to some forum members that i am being extravagent with my SOE use, But between 32" and 48" works wonders for me
depending upon the venue and circumstances. :cheers:
WorkingMann
06-23-2007, 12:12 PM
Being their laughing stock
aren't always bad.. If you aren't embarrassed or let it get to you women can take it as a good thing and you just
are a funny dude that aren't gonna be embarrassed by little things and that shows you're a mann that stands by
what he does and says..
BGuy20
06-23-2007, 12:37 PM
I'd say that them laughing at
you is either really good or really bad. Phero wearers on here seem to get a giggle response when women are nervous,
but it could also be that they were indeed laughing AT you. I think it depends on how confident you observed them to
be. If they were confident, they probably were laughing AT you, but if not, they were probably nervous. Also, I
think if they were giggling AT you, it's a sign of interest. If they were giggling while facing their friends,
perhaps not.
It's good that you showed initiative. It's not too often that the girl comes up to you, even
with pheros. It takes pheromones AND some good game to get women.
I'd suggest buying/reading one of the many
pickup books (Mystery Method, et al) so you have the right mindset when approaching women. These systems teach the
confident guy approach that you'll need to appear congruent while wearing -None. If you wear -None and still act
like a wimpy guy, it's a turn-off because what she's seeing doesn't match up with what she's smelling.
4
numbers is good, but keep at it. Screen the ladies, if you aren't interested in them (or they aren't interested in
you) you can still be friends with them and use them to help out your other conquests.
Keep at it!
WiZ83
06-23-2007, 05:05 PM
I'll see what happens tonight
when I put on more SoE tonight. Maybe try 24 inches tonight. :P
Will keep you guys updated.
ShyAsianGuy26
06-23-2007, 08:38 PM
WIZ on the 3mls I added to
Pherlure, it does get women to be more pleasant around you... its not much.
3mls diluted up to 30mls of Pherlure
or 3:27 in terms of mix. I can tell you now that two Asian chicks that I hang out with told me that I smell like
sweat with that on. They're just friends, not my type, but obviously they smelled something over the strong scent
of pherlure... the good NPA lol.
More testing will be needed since I am rather new with -mones. Don't want to
waste it at work right now b/c it would be a waste of money.
:thumbsup:
WiZ83
06-24-2007, 04:08 AM
Quite a few people told me
that Asians are kind of sensitive to -none, as it would mostly turn them off.
As for last night's result, it was
kind of disappointing. No hits, no chicks. Nothing ... :( Sad ... I tried to hit on a pretty hot Hispanic lady, but
she ignored me whole night ... :(
Anyway, I'm gonna sleep with the pheromones on, without shower. I usually
shower before I sleep, but I want see what kind of experience I get, as in dreams, coz I read some people having
weird dreams/nightmares. Just wanna experience it. :)
ShyAsianGuy26
06-24-2007, 07:03 AM
I can tell you that it is
a turn off for Asian women for their men to smell like -none or at least for the ones that I hang out with.
Caucasians on the other hang are another story... lol my favorite being the typical nordic look... as in blond hair,
blue eyes and hour glass figure (which will come in time).
Anyway, I am trying to improve myself this summer.
Asians are usually light build... so work out a little more. But most importantly practice your personality which
from what I understand is the most important when trying to put -mones to work.
From an dating standpoint....
women are after
1. Intelligence= more money
2. Kindness <--they say they want this but marry jerks and after
being abused they divorce them.
3. Power= more ops in life
4. Money= to support their life style
What type of
girl are you looking for? One-night stand? short-term? long-term?
All these factors play into what you should do.
:lovestruc
WiZ83
06-24-2007, 09:03 AM
At the moment, I'm looking
for any type that comes into my life. Then I'll figure it from there. I won't get married any time soon, but if
the right one comes by, I might consider that.
And by the way, I woke up this morning, without any dreams, except
a boner (morning erection), which doesn't happen often, but maybe it's just a coincidence?
WorkingMann
06-24-2007, 02:25 PM
Test again to check.. Always
do this to see if your result was a coincidence or a real result.. Do the same when testing products.. Test the one
same product and ratio for about a week and then you can come with an conclusion..
ShyAsianGuy26
06-24-2007, 02:27 PM
I would say just a
coincidence... lol I deliberately left all the -none on from when I OD'd. The only thing I got was it stunk up my
whole bed for the next few nights until I could air it out.
I think -mones are suppose to intensify your dreams
and such.
Well I hope you have luck on your escapades. Keep us posted.
ShyAsianGuy26
06-24-2007, 02:29 PM
But then again... Test and
test again. Who knows you might experience the genuine thing. :blink:
WiZ83
06-24-2007, 04:21 PM
I've still got a bunch
left, so I'm gonna keep testing. Hope I don't run out any time soon ... :)
WiZ83
06-26-2007, 09:11 AM
Wore the same stuff
yesterday to work, no results. :(
WiZ83
06-27-2007, 09:34 AM
Went to the strip joint yesterday
with a couple of friends, as it was 2-for-1 Tuesday (Buy 1 get 1 Free Lap Dance), used the same combination
again.
I think it did worked out a little bit. I got 1 private lap dance, paid $25, was supposed to get for 2
songs, then she told me she'd give me another song for free, since I'm sweet. So I paid $25 for 3 songs.
The
others, I don't know, there were lots of strippers coming by, sitting on my lap, trying to get me to buy a lap
dance, but they do that to almost everyone at the strip joint. It was really crowded there.
WiZ83
07-01-2007, 10:30 PM
Updates:
I've been
getting a couple of hits, with 1 drop of NAP, 2 Spray of Chikara, 12-24 inch of SoE only on my wrists, never apply
any on my neck. But these only work at office, during lunch.
But none of them worked at bars/nightclubs. Never
got any hits at all at the bars/clubs.
I've tried Perception and SoE Gel Pack, and they never seemed to work.
Any suggestions on how to use them? I apply the whole pack before I go clubbing, spread them over wrists, behind
hears, and neck, and never got anything out of it.
terry0400-40
07-02-2007, 12:08 PM
Updates:
I've been getting a couple of hits, with 1 drop of NAP, 2
Spray of Chikara, 12-24 inch of SoE only on my wrists, never apply any on my neck. But these only work at office,
during lunch.
But none of them worked at bars/nightclubs. Never got any hits at all at the
bars/clubs.
I've tried Perception and SoE Gel Pack, and they never seemed to work. Any suggestions
on how to use them? I apply the whole pack before I go clubbing, spread them over wrists, behind hears, and neck,
and never got anything out of it.
Re SOE, 24" is about the same
amount of Pheromone content as a new 3/4 Gel/ pkt.
If i decide to go to a club i use about 1+1/2
gel/pkt SOE.
The last time i visited China Town and sat around inside the mall after having applied Dab of NPA
and 40" SOE i had some wonderfull and very flirty positive encounters with more than a few Asian
girls.
And
later on when i was walking beside my girl she just came straight out and said "You have that sexy smell
again"
I
will be again visiting China Town for my herbal supplies and i am going to wear 40" SOE and one spray Chikara, see
how it goes, ill post up and let you know.
To be certain i have had much more success with SOE when i have patted a good
amount of aftershave into my mix.
I think it helps with the diffusion, i really do.
Especially in cold weather or cool conditions.
I also find warm weather is an added bonus in
distributing the pheromones.
WiZ83
07-03-2007, 10:39 AM
I'm going to a local club
tonight, which is hosting a Red and White Independence Day part. I guess I'll try 1 drop NPA, 2 spray chikara, and
48" SoE ? What ya recommend? Since I haven't got a hit at clubs as of yet, should I increase the dose of
NPA/Chikara?
terry0400-40
07-04-2007, 03:00 AM
I'm
going to a local club tonight, which is hosting a Red and White Independence Day part. I guess I'll try 1 drop NPA,
2 spray chikara, and 48" SoE ? What ya recommend? Since I haven't got a hit at clubs as of yet, should I increase
the dose of NPA/Chikara?I would not increase the Chikara as i think 2 sprays
is easily enough of that one.
I find that if i put a decent amount of aftershave on with my SOE appliocation it always seems to
be more effective in diffusing the pheromones even over a long period of time.
WiZ83
07-05-2007, 07:55 AM
1 Drop NPA, 2 Spray Chikara,
48 inch of SoE, didn't work at the club.
I'm still failing to find the perfect mix for clubs. :(
WorkingMann
07-05-2007, 09:26 AM
Tried these products out as
single ones and see what ratios work for what product..?
Then it's easier to mix more products..
My only positive time at a club I
had about maybe 10" of SoE on my neck and then used Phelure as a cover scent. Other than that I've had little luck
with mones. I'm a smaller/younger guy but should I apply more? I also have a bottle of C7 that is rarely used.
WiZ83
07-06-2007, 05:23 AM
NPA can be tried alone? Coz the
smell itself is horrible.
WiZ83
07-06-2007, 05:31 AM
Oh by the way, I'm taking a
flight to Hong Kong tomorrow on a business trip, will be there for 3 days, then I will be going back to Malaysia and
chill out for 2 weeks before returning to Rochester, MN.
Anyone got any good mix recommendation for some
mile-high-club?
graniteking
07-13-2007, 07:33 PM
Hi - just
posting to this thread because I have a similar story. I started with pheremones the first time with Andros back in
the 90s... Big waste of money - never did anything for me.
Then - a few months back, bought Pherlure... not really
any solid "HIT" - although it is possible it affected one woman I ended up visiting the next day (didn't get
anywhere- but she was vietnamese, in her 50s)
About me:
Caucasian, 37, average build
5'10 and about 230
lbs
I started weight training about November, so am in decent shape - and have been ballroom dancing since about
October.
Today I picked up my starter pack from here - what I got:
The newbie kit - with TE and base
SOE
packs
Perception packs
Chikara
and also got a couple of Edge gel packs
my first experience... came home at
lunch and mixed the edge and base together, not a lot of it... sprayed once and went back to work.
No dramatic
anything - had a girl open up a bit, but I am one who can usually get that anyway. So I don't think it was that
that caused it.
So - since I work at two different offices, went to the other one and on way sprayed once more
with TE. I think that helped a bit - a girl came up to talk to another one at work, and was in my space. I have
danced with this girl, so we have been comfortable together, but not that close at work.
Then just got a
friendlier attitude from the other girls there - although that COULD be partly attributed to it being Friday.
I
went from there to get a massage - cute girl there, and I payed her an hour massage (I have an injury to my
shoulder, she is helping loosen the muscles there) but she ended up going over that by about 15 minutes- plus was
overall with her around 90 minutes, even though I was slated to be there 60. She was very open and talkative, more
so than the last time she gave me a massage. Don't know for sure - but it is possible that it was affected by the
mones.
Then - went to buy a cover scent - had no cologne, so bought some Drakkar - put that on and maybe a bit
overkill, but I want to see what can happen - so two sprays of Chikara too. We will see how it goes when I get to
the dance tonight.
I will keep you posted on it... I do still have the pherlure, thought it may be interesting
to mix with others and seeif any different effects...
But tonight - what it comes down to:
2 sprays of TE
(residual from earllier)
2 sprays of Chikara
Drakkar cover scent
We will see if it is an OD or not :)
graniteking
07-13-2007, 10:37 PM
Ok - I think that was
inconclusive.
I danced - a lot - and every time I didn't dance I had a girl grab me to dance... but that isn't
unusual... I know a lot of these women and they like to dance with me.
I think I may have had a hit or two
though - one girl I didn't know, kept checking me out... and a few people seemed friendlier than usual - but that
could be me not being there for a couple of weeks recovering from an injury too.... Will have to keep trying,
tomorrow am going to try in a new setting, with people who I don't really know. Haven't decided yet what to wear
though.
belgareth
07-14-2007, 04:31 AM
Wear exactly what you did this
last time. By consistantly using the same item under different conditions you will get a better idea if it works for
you. Once you do that you can start tweaking it to make the effect more of what you want.
graniteking
07-14-2007, 09:56 AM
I will do that - I do
have a couple of other questions...
First - the newbie kit includes a mix with scent and the edge- the edge
doesn't have a dropper but the other one doesn't. I didn't use the dropper adding the edge, just the scent base-
I may not have exactly 1:1 on it. My assumption is that I don't want to use that dropper in the edge, because I
don't want to contaminate the contents of either bottle. For those who mix, do you just pick up droppers somewhere
and use it or what?
Second - what is this everyone is talking about in inches of scent... ?
Woke up this
morning and I can definitely smell the mone's after everything else has worn off - smells kind of strong. I am
going to try scrubbing hard to make sure as much is off as possible. I read something about buildup being a possible
issue. Any thoughts on that one?
And my plan for the week, based on your post here, is:
2 sprays of TE
2
sprays of chikara
cover scent (drakkar)
I will keep it updated here on anything new from it :)
UPDATE
went out yesterday - was an open-air festival, did a couple of dance lessons.
Nothing I can with certainty
attribute to the mones- I danced with one girl, who was friendly... but that is already my experience with dance. No
noticable glances from anyone along the day... I had stopped into my office and seen a couple of girls there, but
nothing out of the usual.
A little later, went swimming with a friend, and afterwards reapplied, since it had
been several hours since I had put them on. This friend is a girl who I have in the past been VERY close to ;) but I
didn't see anything unusual from her either, even though spent a few hours together.
So where I am at today- I
think I will try one more time today, and one tomorrow. If nothing, I will change it around a bit and see what else
I can do. I have a bunch of perception packs, and may try those starting on Tuesday. With the mix I am using, I want
to find out on one particular girl if it affects her (late 20s, hispanic, very very pretty :) ) before I move to
another mone.
Update - has now been four days since I got the mones...
Yesterday didn't go out, but have a
friend who lives next door, so figured I would try again and see if she noticed anything. Didn't see any results, 2
sprays of chikara and 2 of TE.
Today, wore 2 and 2 again, went to work, didn't really see any results. Came
home for lunch, refreshed the chikara with 2 shots more... then saw the girl I mentioned. She came by for a couple
of minutes, but I think I OD'd because she wouldn't look at me and seemed kind of uncomfortable.
Tomorrow am
debating whether to try SOE or Perception... I read a lot from people that they think perception is bogus - but
others swear by it. I will update again to see what I can come up with from it all. I plan on wearing whichever one
for the rest of the week to see what happens there... then go to whichever of those two I don't do first.... then
probably start into chikara or TE alone and see where it is. I will try and run for at least 4 days straight before
I change, just so I can see what happens with that particular mone. While I haven't had great results yet, I am
sure that the mix is out there somewhere for me, just need to find it :)
UPDATE
First day of Perception -
and I was kind of surprised. I have read a LOT of reviews on here saying perception is useless - so didn't really
expect much. I got a set of packets when I ordered my original kit, so I have 9 packets of it.
My experience:
went in to work after 1/2 packet - liked that it has virtually no smell.
1. A girl at work, who rarely says
more than hello, but only after I talk first - said hi while I wasn't even looking at her. May not sound like much,
but I have worked with her a year, and the most I ever got from her was if she needs a favor or something - she
didn't. I took that as a minor hit.
I came home for lunch, having that only as my experience, and decided to use
the rest of the packet. I know I didn't really need a refresher, since I have read how this one lasts for hours and
hours... but figured I would boost it to a full gel pack.
A couple of surprising things then:
2. The girl I
mentioned previously in this post (the one who I think I od'd with yesterday) - who is my neighbor, on very close
terms... but hasn't really been talking to me much for a month or two. She started a little bit of flirting -
nothing major, and not TOO out of her norm... but then she started talking - ALOT. I have talked to her a lot - in
fact have been more than friends with her - but we haven't been as much talking since we decided to not have the
benefits. So that was kind of out of the norm.
3. A girl I have danced with, had been kind of chatty with
before... but not in a month or so, since we had stopped dancing together (I had expressed an interest in her
before, and she since then had been avoiding me) all of a sudden was very very chatty today. This morning, I saw her
and got a smile from her, not unusual, but after lunch she was very talkative. Seemed like she kept asking things
just to keep me around to talk more.
4. Went to a store on the way home, and saw a girl there... looked several
times her direction and kept finding her looking away from my eyes when I looked her way. Admittedly, I have VERY
blue eyes (contacts :) ) but still that wasn't my normal experience with it. I do get stares sometimes but not ones
that keep looking away when I look at them.
Ages of the first three are girls all around early 40s. The 4th was
a girl probably early 20s.
Overall, I was very impressed with this one. I look forward to seeing how the other
ones do for me :) But, I am going to keep on with perception for a few more days before I move on to trying SOE.
I was also thinking about maybe getting some Alpha 7, and possibly liquid trust. Any experience on those?
UPDATE again
Was out swimming so was pretty sure the perception was gone... so I sprayed 4 sprays of TE (2
came out partially, so I think closer to three sprays total) and got a DEFINITE overdose
The above mentioned
girl who lives next door commented "something stinks" and her and my sis who were both here went over to her house
instead of hanging around here.
UPDATE day two with perception
RAINY day here. I found the big drawback to
this one... almost all of it washed off going outside I think. No hits that I noticed.
Question - WAGG vs A314
- which would be the best way to make approachable? or would SOE or something else do it?
graniteking
07-20-2007, 06:24 AM
nothing yet
- 1/2 gel pack of Soe- I didn't notice any hits on this so far. Will try today at 1 pack - I only did 2 days of
perception because of the weather. Once I saw how fast it goes away on rainy days, decided to save it for dry
days.
vendettaseve
07-20-2007, 07:26 AM
nothing yet - 1/2 gel pack of Soe- I didn't notice any hits on this so far. Will try
today at 1 pack - I only did 2 days of perception because of the weather. Once I saw how fast it goes away on rainy
days, decided to save it for dry days.
Hey man
I have read thsi whole thread over and have come away
with a few feelings on the issue. I admittedly dont know anything about mones but what iv read on here, as I am
still awaiting mine in the mail, however I would just like to say, there is such a thing as trying to hard, Take it
easy, take it slow, If I were you id try cutting everything your using in half, and try a different cologne, I find
Gravity tends to draw them in even without mones ^.^ Your current scent leaves girls with a funny impression, Used
to use it myself, smells nice but doesnt do the job.
Thats my advice to you, im going to say this again, I really
dont know much about mones but I do have an oppinion oddly enugh.
ALSO one note to Wiz,
Night clubs are evil my
friend, dont go to them with hopes of picking up, as with bars, Girls know that thier just meat in there, and
ultimatly thier defences are so high because they know your just there to pick up that you really wont get anywhere
very often. Go somewhere quiet, Public librarys are wonderful for this, as with Malls etc, Iv found from experience,
that if you shop in girly stores, girls hang off you, Im Canadian so I dont know if you have Claires or Ardenes
around where your from, but find an equivalent, make jokes about not knowing what your doing in there and youl take
them home, without mones :LOL: Or so I find.
Thanks for listening :)
V
CptKipling
07-20-2007, 09:51 AM
nothing yet - 1/2 gel pack of Soe- I didn't notice any hits on this so far. Will try
today at 1 pack - I only did 2 days of perception because of the weather. Once I saw how fast it goes away on rainy
days, decided to save it for dry days.
What kinds of things did you do while wearing it?
graniteking
07-20-2007, 12:16 PM
For the most part, just went
into work. There is a LOT of traffic there, although I maybe only see 10 to 15 girls there a day- aside from the
girls I work with of course.
As a side note - wore 1/2 pack SoE yesterday - noticed nothing,
Today tried 1
full pack, and one of the girls I work with started rubbing my shoulders with no suggesting from me - was all
spontaneous on it, and she has not done this in the year I have known her. Not a likely candidate for me, being
older (late 50s) and married... But still, I do attribute the reaction to the SoE
:thumbsup:
Was thinking
about going to Barnes and Noble and hanging out a while over the weekend, since it is across the road from me :)
BTW - one other note - using perception as well as SoE - have had no cover scent at all, as my work environment
requires a low profile scent-wise. I really like that perception has a soft scent, not overpowering, so can get away
without cover, same with the SoE.
I do have 3 bottles (my bad) of that OTHER place's non-existent pheremone
cologne - but I do like the scent, so was thinking to use it in a mix with TE to cover the musky smell of TE. I am
just writing it off as an over-priced mistake for cologne, since have only ever seen one potential hit with it after
using it for a couple of months.
graniteking
07-20-2007, 10:29 PM
Ok - day 2
of SoE -
one full packet this morning - nothing that I saw... (went to work, around several women).
Think
it all wore off by this evening - 1/2 pack at 7:30 to meet a girl at 8:00, cover of drakkar
Not a sexual hit -
her and I have talked before, as friends... we spent 2 hours walking and talking. All the time walking she held onto
my arm - but this girl is one I have been on hugging terms with for a while anyway. So was this at all related to
the scent? I have no clue - very possibly not. But then, just have to find out with more tests :)
WiZ83
10-08-2007, 01:30 PM
Sigh ... I tried all kinds
of combos now and haven't got much of a success. The only thing that I think worked for me at the moment is SoE, as
I've got some people really chatty, other than that, I haven't seen any results from other products that I have
tested since I used them a couple months ago.
Iaskalotof?'s
10-08-2007, 02:48 PM
I see that you use
NPA,which is kind of advanced.Why did you choose to use that?
WiZ83
10-09-2007, 12:49 AM
Because I read great reviews about
it?
Iaskalotof?'s
10-09-2007, 08:22 AM
That's a good point,but
I'm guessing most of those people who made those reviews have had experience already(i.e with lower none products
like TE,then worked their way up). I would suggest trying the edge,its dirt cheap and gets good results!
terry0400-40
10-09-2007, 10:45 AM
That's a good point,but I'm guessing most of those people who made those reviews
have had experience already(i.e with lower none products like TE,then worked their way up). I would suggest trying
the edge,its dirt cheap and gets good results!I could not agree with your
excellent advice more regarding that suggestion, as The Edge is easily managed and produces good solid results, and
in my estimation is real value for money that can not be surpassed. :thumbsup:
WiZ83
10-09-2007, 04:51 PM
I got The Edge as well, used a
couple times but no results as well, maybe I wasn't applying enough.
My The Edge bottle I got doesn't come with
a spray, so how do I measure sprays then? I usually do like 4 dabs or so, might not be sufficient?
Again,
should I be using TE/NPA alone to test them out? It smells bad, so is it okay to use it alone? Or I should at least
have some cover scent over it?
Of all the colognes I've used, without mones, LeMale gives me the best hit as far
as getting compliments from girls.
belmont
10-10-2007, 03:44 AM
i tried TE-Sandalwood...1 spray
to the neck...didn't notice anything.....
can't try it at work as i dun wanan incur the wrath of the guys
there....
on the other hand, SOE seems to do fine.
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